Everything is great… until the car starts acting up, then Max will be half a second up the road again. If there’s one thing that’s constant, a car that is neutral and easy to drive brings team mates very close together. A difficult car will suit one or the other. let’s watch and see.
@@batuksri I wish DaniRic had stayed at RB. Even if Max was given preferential treatment, which Horner denied but was flat out obvious and is the same for all teams anyway so big deal, DaniRic would have still done far far better than the sad state he's in right now. Aah well, Checo is undoubtedly doing very very well. And Bottas is also showing why change isn't always better. They could have done with both experienced drivers tackling the 2022 redesign, and made a change later. Seems Merc would need a new driver in any case soon, Lewis may extend another year but if it's this shit poor performance all year.
Max to me seems like he's driving in a much calmer state now that he's won the championship. It feels like he's driving without the pressure on his shoulders and he's thriving this way. Checo also looking amazing this season so far. Every time a Red Bull has finished they've been in a strong position.
Agree very much. Max would be in the lead if it wasnt for car failures. Even though charles, george and lando are the same age as max.. max has 3 years more f1 experience and it is really showing. Still a long season to go but its looking good so far. 😊
If perez continues to perform like this it could be an easier championship for redbull than last year. He didn't take too many points from lewis last year, especially when lewis was off position, like Sotchi, Imola and Silverstone.
Easier championship 🤡, you're acting like as Ferrari is out of the game. Do I need to remember you that we have no upgrades to the car until now while rb has already many? Wait until barcelona to say if redbull will have an easy champ
@@matteogamba3236 Yes but Redbull will also bring upgrades at barcelona. They still have heavier floor without stay. Since FIA allowed floor stays surely Redbull will bring new floor. And even though redbull got lighter at Imola it is still heavier than ferrari. Plus upgrades don't always make you faster. In 2018 upgrades actually made Ferrari slower.
Yeah even though Lewis‘ championships after 2016 were all earned with the best car by far and no competition from his teammate . The british bias is strong here.
The real benefit of perez was the fact that the team had the confidence to use him to collect all of the sprint race data in fp2 thus allowing max to concentrate on race data ,a luxury that ferrari did not have / use
Difference is that Max HAS faught for a championship before, that too against Lewis, AND made lesser errors than Lewis. So he knows the mental state he needs to be in to perform at his best under unimaginable pressure, Charles hasn't had that experience yet.
Agree. He comes out of the closest and highest pressure seasons in decades and came out on top. I think his experience will give him the edge over Charles.
Not only that but Ferrari haven't been in championship contention for so long as a team . The crews skill and decision making all play a part in winning a title , rb have edge in that department currently
It’s way early in the season and Ferrari drivers are cracking under pressure. It’s going to get worse. Red Bull is going to take this championship if they find reliability in most races. Ferrari are set to implode. Charles and Sainz are great drivers but they’ve never had championship experience before.
I don't see how you can say that Ricciardo is operating at Perez level (when he finished 18th, with Land 3rd) , and then say that the Aston Martin drivers were simply profiting from mixed up circumstances in the race. The race was far less mixed up than other GP's we've seen. It was a bad race from him, that's all. And it's not a one off
Checo did say Max would struggle with a low rake concept as much as he had done with the high. To me it's not surprising Checo is doing much better now since the new regulations now forces Red Bull to drive low rake, but what I find interesting and not at all surprising either is how Max is still keeping up his amazing streak of a win, p2 or nothing at all despite these changes. He's struggling, but it doesn't effect his results at all. He's proving again to belong to the best of the best.
RB is edging Ferrari hard in that 2nd driver department. Whether by own-fault or luck, Sainz has left Ferrari high and dry and out of option to help Charles fight RB. Very back and forth battles as reflected in the point table. What an amazing season so far. Ofcourse, Merc's misery is the cream on top, unless you are merc/LH fans.
Ikr. You just gotta go with it even though it's annoying ( makes me like Max even more since he keeps proving them wrong- being more calm, cleaner driving, etc.)
Even Mr. Kravits joins the camouflaged anti Max messages which creep up every second commentating session. The most used is the hidden message which sounds like: "..now Max Verstappen, whatever you might think of him, today he did a decent job...(the Race)" then the commentator continues with:"..and again a brilliant, brilliant drive from Lando, who came home in third place.. I do not know if my examples make clear what I mean but maybe this will do it:...>> now Lando Norris, whatever you might think of him" or "..>> Daniel Ricciardo, whatever you might think of him" or "..>> Sebastian Vettel, whatever you might think of him" or " etcetera and so on. Sounds strange does'nt it? When Lando, Daniel or Seb is called with the very suggestive 'whatever you might think of...' anybody would promptly ask: " What do you mean by that...whatever you..." It is going on for a long time now this hidden negative suggestive messaging in the English media. It is time to overstep your bias shadow and see Max Verstappen in a kinder light. Like Lando and Daniel do, to give you a lead.
Sergio is only five points behind Max in championship points, raises him aboard as a contender for the championship. Sergio is definitely the black horse this season.
Verstappen's psychological advantage is that he has not made any mistakes this season at all. His two retirements were technical. Leclerc is mentally strong, but surely he'll realize that he was the first to blink...
I don't think Leclerc is as mentally strong as Max. He always blames himself and beats himself down on that, whereas Max just forgets about it and moves on.
Difference is that Max HAS faught for a championship before, that too against Lewis, AND made lesser errors than Lewis. So he knows the mental state he needs to be in to perform at his best under unimaginable pressure, Charles hasn't had that experience yet.
@@Amory98 And because Max does have a championship now, he doesn't have that pressure anymore that he *needs* to win at all costs. He has achieved his life goal, and so the pressure to get a 2nd title is way less than his first. But of course he's still motivated enough to go for multiple world titles.
Its good that leclerc made mistake this early in this season and now its upto him to learn from it. For sure RB will not back out they are very competitive and both Max and Perez has tons of experience
"This my neighbor, Charles Leclerc. He is pain in my ***holes. I get a win, he get a win. I get a grand slam, he must get a grand slam. I get a championship, he cannot afford. Great success."
15:13 you guys keep saying Leclerc went for the undercut and that he pitted first. Did you guys not watch the race at all? Perez pitted first for the overcut and then Leclerc a lap later... this is your job is it not?
I'd like to point three things out, all pertaining to Williams. 1) Albon had the pace to keep up with Ocon. He was only 1.5 seconds behind. The only reason he didn't stay 0.5sec behind Ocon was because Williams wanted to save the tires and they were overheating behind Ocon, so Alex backed off. 2) Williams looks progressively quicker every week. Dave Robson, head of vehicle performance has stated that their strategy wasn't to be quickest at the beginning of the year, but rather to balance the car, work out any glaring issues (like porpoising which they anticipated), and ensure that everything was functional and correlating with their wind tunnel and computational upgrades. Dorilton is still investing heavily, and these infrastructure enchantments don't come overnight, so they wanted to ensure everything's on course before seeking more performance. Dave Robson said that the two main priorities now are to get the car lower without inducing porpoising, and to increase downforce unilaterally to keep its current balance (which it's very balanced right now). He expects exponential performance improvements within the next three weeks. 3) Nicolas Latifi. He's taken the brunt of extremely harsh criticism, so it's only fair to point out when he excels. After lap 33, he gained more and more confidence, consistently running 1:21.1-6's which was quicker than Ricciardo, Zhou, Schumacher, Magnusson, Hamilton, Gasly, Albon, Ocon, and even at times quicker than Russell and Norris. That's extremely impressive. I watched his onboard and there was a switch that seemingly turned on after lap 33. It just clicked. Will he continue this pace forward? I have no idea. Will he crash? I have no idea. Nevertheless, he deserves to be recognized for his relatively rapid pace for over half the GP. Hopefully he can keep that pace up and help Alex push Williams up the grid.
Oh sure…. Because Ferrari and Redbull drivers pedal with their feet. 👀 It’s like we didn’t see Leclerc and Perez passing drivers like Swiss cheese 🧀 The same kind of thing we used to moan about with Mercedes.
So many excuses and nonsense arguments made for him. GR has joined a new team, had to learn new processes and learn and drive a car not made with his preferences in mind. Yet he has smashed LH this season.
Can Mark be a bit less irritatingly biased? Mentioned charles' lockup on hie fastest qualifying lap but not that Max put his Redbull on pole despite completely lifting off due to yellow flag.
It's hard for fanboys to comprehend the fact that others not calling their favourite driver the greatest of all time for every single thing they do isn't actually a sign of an inherent bias, but I generally find they get over it as they age. It is not normal behaviour to leave three comments in a row on a single video because it didn't praise your favourite driver *enough*, and taking something like that so personally is your problem.
Mark Hughes is talking about Lando and Lewis contrary to Verstappen and Magnussen or any other non-Brit driver. His preferences shine through blindingly.
He's been the under rated driver, am so happy that Aston Martin kicked him out, even if red bull leaves Sergio perez this season end atleast perez had a taste of a top team, right now Redbull reserve is not that looking great, not bad either, I would say jehan daruvala or vips or Lawson or Hauger are not best enough to replace Perez next season, Jehan is currently P3 in F2 but he's took two seasons already to be this decent in f2 same goes for others too, they are all been meddling in F2
Comparing Perez to D Ric and saying that levels are similar. That is nuts! Ric was at McLaren struggling since last year and this year is the same. I'm sorry but saying things like this makes me think twice before listening to your podcast.
Why though? If you don’t take in consideration the cars that are at different levels of performance, Daniel had slightly better race pace than Lando if you look at the data (excluding Imola when the car was damaged), but you can’t say the same thing about Sergio comparing to Max. RIC - 0,09% on NOR race pace vs. VER - 0,30% on PER after Round 3
@@catia6862 You're just only comparing this year what about last year. Are we supposed to just forget all about it? In these past 4 races Perez has a pole. What many poles does Ric has this year or points? (Diff in points btw Max and Perez is only 5) What is the difference in points between Lando and RIC ? Also in the past Perez had been in teams that were struggling and he was always scoring points. It didn't matter the team he was in. But Ric is not as consistent as Perez. So you can NOT compare them. Also D Ric is a clown. He thinks he is the party but in reality he is not even funny most of the time.
Daniel ricciardo isn’t struggling this season his pace has been as good as lando Saudi he was on for points but reliability let him down Australia he drove a solid race and imola he was on the same pace as lando but collided with Sainz and then got pushed into sainz more by bottas. So please talk before you speak.
@@fourthdeconstruction A pole position in a McLaren is almost impossible at the moment. And comparing the number of points between team mates is not always as relevant if you take in consideration DNFs, reliability issues and so on. On the other hand comparing race pace gives you a better view between team mates using the same machinery and then maybe talking about Max/Checo vs. Lando/Daniel. The issues here is not if you consider Ricciardo funny or not 😉 but it says something about the objectivity of your analysis.
@@catia6862 Speaking about objectivity comparing only race pace and not comparing driving points and other issues like poles is not being objective enough. I remind you that team points are worth millions as a constructor and drivers points/podiums are the only measure that counts towards the history of a F1 driver. So race pace between teammates doesn't mean anything at end. If you're comparing teammates based only on race pace what you are saying is that G Russell is a better driver than 7 time world champion driver L. Hamilton, which is NOT true at all. Hope that you understand why race pace between teammates is not enough to compare drivers.
At what point does Williams replace Latifi??? The battle at the back of the grid is tight, and it seems like one driver can’t carry the team anymore… Williams are failing themselves big-time!!
The Ferrari was quick but it was Leclercs badluck that he was trailing Perez coz we know how he is. He's called the minister of defence for a reason. Max on the other hand is in a different league coz even on weekends where he didn't had the faster car like Bahrain, he tried untill he locked up his tires, even in Saudi he tried and same in the sprint after loosing the lead he got past. This is what makes him the best coz he tries no matter what, winning and loosing is other thing but trying is what he does and even before 2021 he always had this fighting mentality and not giving up. See Australia 2016 with Hamilton in a dominant Merc and Max in a Toro Rosso kept him behind for many laps untill Lewis gave up
@@Amory98 yeah but it was a start so I thought calling badluck is fine as then others will get triggered. But yeah Charles didn't make the perfect start when it mattered unlike sprint.
@@Amory98 Carlos did make a mistake and was unforced at Quali (last turn) when we got trigger happy and same thing with Lec during the race. Bad luck is when yiu get hit, engine stops working, etc.
Not sure what the problem is with Ricciardo other then he made an error at the start. His speed was there if not for a couple of red flags he might have qualified in front of Norris. Both he and Vettel are recovering from a lack of mileage at the start of the year.
Agree that Ric and Lando are even in the 2022 car. Imola reminds me of Brazil last year where Lando tried to pass Sainz at the start made contact and got puncture and dropped to back and was never in the race. Sometimes circumstances play a larger factor than most people realize.
Adrian Newey and the team development of the car is why Ferrari is stunned. Put Max in the best car and wave bye bye. Same as Lewis, but Mercedes obviously is baffled how to reduce vertical oscillation [porposing].
Love these pod bull sessions guys, great stuff. I would like to hear your takes on the TV coverage- I am really frustrated with the camera and on-screen info production choices so far this year. Let's hope they right the ship soon.
Did you see any cars carving through the field? Very few passes on Sunday. The damp conditions made it impossible to outbreak anybody in the breaking zone. That's the only chance that Merc have of passing anybody, it's too slow in the straights.
Exactly but telling the truth doesn’t conform to the narrative these biased fools want to push out there. GR has smashed LH all season but here especially but excuses kept being made on LH behalf. Helmet might have been joking but the reality is surely LH is reevaluating his position. It’s easier keeping fresh and fit when you have by far the quickest car with no competition within your own team forget anyone else.
I mean, Mark has got to come up with some bullshit excuse to defend Hamilton's abysmal performance. That's Mark's job on this channel. To downplay Max (and any non British driver) and concoct praise for Lewis even if he isn't in the points.
@@kgriff5537 Perez, Tsunoda, Russell are three examples from the top of my head who outbreaked to make moves stick. Races have happened on wet tracks before. Overtaking has been done on wet tracks before. Stop coming up with gibberish to defend ham
Bro. There were not that many passes in that race. If your car is a second faster than the other car. The Red Bulls and Ferraris have a second on the field. The Merc didn't gain any place in the sprint either when they got stuck in the lower midfield also. The car is too slow on the straights now. Now in free air, it's probably the 3rd fastest in race condition. George got a blinder of a start therefore he was able to extract the most out of the car. Not one time during the race Lewis had free air to maximize the car's potential. That's what the analyst means circumstances. That's what good analyst do , look on the circumstances then make a judgement., not just headlines.
The British bias is strong here. All this nonsense about “it’s the car” is starting up again. Pity, it was nowhere to be seen when LH won his titles with by far the fastest car on the grid with the greatest pace advantage ever seen. Yet, you wish to promote LH as the GOAT when frankly his achievements pail in comparison to others before him.
2018 title battle 2017 and 2019 I love how people like you try to discredit Lewis Hamilton's achievements by saying fastest car but truth is you need consistency to win championships and Bottas didn't have that Bottas would win 1 race and Lewis wins the next 5
@@siyaaviation3659 They weren’t actual title battles extending across a whole season. He didn’t have a title challenge. In 2017, LH walked 9 wins to SV 5. In 2018, LH won 11 GP to SV 5. In 2019, LH won 11 GP to VB 4 GP. So try as you may to cling on to some level of credibility to LH titles, you’re not fooling anyone with that consistency argument. Bottom line he had easily the fastest car across that season but for a few races and a number two driver in his own team that moved over for him happily at his beck and call. Most adequate drivers not screwed over by strategy calls in that car would have taken the fight to him and in the two seasons someone did take the fight to him across a whole season, he lost with NR in 2016 and MV in 2021 where he looked ragged and made a lot of mistakes.
@@kwl189 Vettel in 2018 just had to win in Singapore and get a decent result in suzuka and he would potentially win the championship but he bottled it when your Barechelo was letting shumi through people didn't complain and red bull treat max as number 1 driver also Hamilton beat Nico 2014-15 before 16 but it doesn't matter you'll love Hamilton when he retires
@@siyaaviation3659 nope 2018 wasn’t like that because LH was dominant at the back end of that season. Case in point LH won the last four of the six GPs. So it’s irrelevant what SV would have done because even the hapless VB was able to win in that car in this period. SV had no chance of winning that title. 11 wins vs 5. What part of that don’t you understand as being non competitive? You can keep trying to pretend as if SV bottled it but really, he could have done everything right at Singapore and Germany and he would have been walked over by LH and Mercedes Benz AMG Petronas anyway with the clear fastest car. Barrichello rarely moved over for Schumacher and when he did, people bitched and cried like no tomorrow as they do whenever Scuderia Ferrari excel in F1. Martin Brundle was deplorable in his saltiness against SV at Red Bull. All teams have their number one driver. Only Mercedes Benz AMG Petronas pretend as if they don’t while Scuderia Ferrari are clear about it with the policy only changing recently in light of the different point scoring systems at play and different mechanics of the sports developing. Yes. LH beat NR in 2013/2014/2015 but he did lose when NR got it together in 2016 before NR retired from F1. The team was ripped apart that season. Nobody will miss LH on the grid when he walks away.
The sprint race is definitely here to stay as having qualifying* on the Friday is an extra revenue stream for the F1 owners, TV companies and the race tracks * yeah 'qualifying', although it's not really...
Niagara-ing actually. Mark's voice starts to crack even more than usual when he HAS to say at least something about Max's/Redbull's brilliant performance.
I seem to think so but the Ferrari is better at warming up their tires and keeping the temps in them. Another thing is Ferrari is better in tracks with lower speeds and slower corners since they get better exit speeds and more mechanical grip lower down. But once it comes to the mid and fast circuits, the pendulum swings to RB. Miami will be warmer than Imola but the track seems to suit RB based on it being a high speed circuit. Let's see whether the lower temps benefit the Ferrari or not next weekend.
@@Jesus-fy6mk Well he is generally smacked to pieces by his genuinely talented teammate Max (the god) Verstappen. Perez is not terrible but often get praised for beating drivers who are clearly in inferior cars.
Perez is very good in momentary wheel to wheel racing, but he isn't very good in piecing it all together a delivering a flawless weekend. That's the difference between a good racer and a champion.
Now that Ferrari have a fast car again, watching Sainz underperform either in qualifying or the race, and watching Leclerc crumble under pressure, I'm beginning to question whether they have the DRIVERS to go *toe to toe* with Verstappen and Red Bull in a tight championship fight. 🤔 🤨
I don't think it's a fair assessment to say that Leclerc has "crumbled under pressure" when this is his first real racing error with major consequences of the season. If it becomes a pattern, then we can visit this particular narrative, but it's absolutely too early to be going with this particular evaluation.
Van24 agreed and people were too quick to put the racing crown on his head after the DRS battle in Bahrain. It’s great to see people get exited though. What a start
@@Gl-my8fw I'm not sure Sainz is a better option than Vettel. Seb in a quick car would fare better than Carlos in my opinion, but let's see how things go from here.
I wonder if Sergio and his camp have already been informed by RB that they plan to extend his contract, but are waiting to make an announcement this early in the season for Gaslys sake.
Hold of because Marko has been talking about Audi and Porsche engines which means the RB Powertrain dream could fall through. It could mean Perez powerful sponsors not renewing with RB. In which case Gasly is back in the car.
@@areebsiddiqui758 So if that’s true why is Marko talking about Audi and Porsche coming in as engine builders. What about his own project which is a big effort after poaching engineers from Merc. Is RB Powertrain’s not working as they have hoped.
@@areebsiddiqui758 Like him or not when old man Marko speaks I listen carefully. He after all is the right hand to the owner of RBR. Horner is just a manager or front man.
@@Phantom096 I don't think you know what you're talking about. Honda will build the RB engines till 2025 despite them being badged as RBPT. There's talks that after 2025 Porshce or Audi might join in a collaborative effort. Now I don't know why you brought Perez into the conversation. Him staying with the team has nothing to do with it. Marko is a crazy old bat, nobody pays attention to what he says. Most of what comes out of his mouth is utter rubbish anyway. And no, Horner is the main guy at RB when it comes to running the team and administration. Marko officially is just in charge of young driver development.
Really enjoy all the content from The Race, but I think you guys are missing a trick by not having a regular video presenting your driver ratings. Lists / rankings are loved on TH-cam and surely it would stimulate a lively comment section. Just a suggestion!
Hands down you guys have the best F1 Podcast! Most Podcast are pretty bias to specific drivers and teams, you guys are great to cover all teams without an unbiased opinion
There comes a time in a race when you have to think about the long game though. A certain 3rd is a lot better than 6th, or very close to 0 like he was. The championship is a long game thing. Sometimes you have to be smart. As much h as I didn't like him, Prost won 3 of his 4 titles by thinking long game. Edit: I've been a Ferrari fan since 1982, and NOTHING would make me happier this year than a double championship for Ferrari.
Of course when Mick gets in the top 10, points are only given to the top 8. (Sprint Race)I had a feeling that was gonna happen. And because of that no point P10, it was easily all forgotten about. During the Grand Prix he didn’t help himself either by taking out Alonso and twirling a couple times.
Lando did his usual stuff , great qualifying then maximizing what the car is capable of . Great start and driving and consistency and definitely best of the rest on the day. Lando didnt need to push hard . Just control his race. Just bad luck for Danny that he wasn't up in the points too. Just with MIck he has been found out. Winner of F2 by virtue of lots of thirds. Good driver but not great.
Time to reprofile the straight after Tamburello, and remove Villeneuve? Two short straights right now with no overtaking < one half-decent straight that will offer some overtaking
Hammie apologist channel is spinning tales on why he is being owned by Russell. Last year Bottas would have been roasted for Hammies performance to no end
Bottas was a mix of lucky and unlucky with the Sainz/Ricciardo incident, since one of the cars literally climbed his front wing, there was even a tyre mark (is it marc or mark, Brazilian here)
@@adamozmin8970 Well that is Monaco. I'm talking about Imola. Jeddah is the prime example of what I am talking about but you could include many of the new circuits that lack safe runoffs like the straights of Baku and the castle section for instance. Singapore is another.
Crossing the finish line probably helped just a bit, Especially after losing a little bit of weight which will help with overall pace / tire management.
The amount of bias is repugnant... still looking for good unbiased f1 podcasts. The videos from the channel are awesome but these podcasts are lacking in comparison.
small mistakes, it happens? Leclerc's attacking style... sort of came to Red Bull? When verstappen had a slight mistake in qualifying last year or even Hamilton early on in his career, this same mistake would've been called a huge choke moment or verstappen would've been entirely, unneccesarily aggressive... a mistake that could've cost them the title.
"We should say, (Mercedes) still have what's usually the third fastest car, so they are still on course to be third in the championship". Is Straw as clueless as this sounds, or have I been watching a different season?
This podcast is a direct representation on why I like listening to you all. Non bias and look at all aspects of a race to understand overall performance. After Imola, and people (including Nico) kept voicing how the places between Lewis and George are so different and voicing it was all on Lewis. But I had been saying the same things Mark here has been saying. It was very circumstantial based on the tire warm up needs and the grid start on Sunday. If you watched the whole grid, you can see all the cars that George passed at the line created a 3 car wall pile up directly behind making it impossible for Lewis to get past, and he got stuck in a train on a track super hard to pass already. When thinking on going more aggressive with nothing to lose, people keep forgetting about the cost cap right now. He was already in 14th and going up a couple spots not getting into points position, the risk of a crash is costly (that MB would prefer saving for upgrades).
Leclerc fucked up yes by taking way too much curb and launching it into the wall BUT Ferrari also fucked up by calling him in for a pitstop when he could easily have just continued based on the small frontwing endplate damage. He could have been 3rd or 4th if he just stayed out for a lap to see the pace of the car. Unlucky sainz got punted into the gravel trap, this underscores why gravel should be REMOVED from all F1 tracks as it really hurts the race and often gets cars stuck, while providing 0 grip. Asphault runoffs at least provide some surface traction to give drivers a chance to recover, a chance to avoid accidents and lets the tires actually work so you don't end up in the wall as often. Remove the god damn gravel and you'll instantly have better racing.
You are not wrong but I disagree with everything you have said, faint heart never won fair maiden and the decision to take a risk is more respectable. At least they can say they tried even though it didn’t pay off this time. As for gravel it makes the race way more exiting and helps separate the men from the boys. You might not be old enough to remember playing Mario cart but Rainbow road had no barriers and was instant loose if you came off the track. So much more satisfying to win Also moments like Brazil 2021 Max and Lewis wouldn’t happen and Saudi where Max dive bombed and took the place and Hamilton just skipped the corner completely. Yes It can be harsh to people who get a bump and end up stuck like Sainz but for me the pros out way the cons
No. Gravel should remain because ultimately we saw drivers being punished for their mistakes and the bravest drivers won outright this GP. More chance of separating the boys from the men. Also CL couldn’t steer left very well. Staying out with so many laps to do, would have hurt them with the damage on the wing. The wing might also have been knocked loose and could have potentially come off with all the porpoising Scuderia Ferrari does on the straights.
Its nice that Leclerc and Ferrari have the pace to be a contender, good for the championship and hope it lasts until the end but we all know how good Ferrari is in making decisions on the pitwall... The fact that they havent really fucked up there yet tells me that is still coming, so i dont think it matters how good Charles (or Sainz) drive cuz i know they will get fucked by their own team at some point.
Absolutely Gutted for Checo’s Legions of fans around the world from the Americas to India and Japan that thought Checo could win a championship at Red Bull.
I see a lot of Hamilton haters came here to hear the cast bash Hamilton. Instead, they got a thorough analysis of the race and not ignoring circumstances. And they don't like it. 😂 This is why I tune in to these guys weekly, by far the best F1 podcast out there. Analysis is always spot on.
I've been hearing a lot of nonsense about LH washed up.. but I'm watching his times vs GR and they are the same. Sometimes luck plays a role but no one wants to hear it. Everyone wants to hate on him.
@@BNWhitty It was a perfect storm for a bad race being stuck in the lower midfield. The only way for this Merc to past on that damp narrow track was DRS, or in the pit window. Normally the Merc would have a second or more on these guys so they could work their way through the field. Not this Merc to slow on the straights so they couldn't blast by cars down the straight unless they have assistance of DRS advantage. Bare in mind, DRS train is no DRS assistance for the trailing cars. That's what he had to deal with. Also they couldn't jump anyone in the pits because with the threat of rain they didn't want to bring him in put on slicks and it start raining again. So that option was not available for the teams.
perez was already pulling away and that's what made charles desperate. he would never catch him. rb was just too fast with the upgrades and wight reduction.
@@alexcepile1420 obviously you weren’t watching the race because after sector 1 Charles was right on Checo until he took too much kerb and spun. Charles had a chance for second in the final laps.
Great to hear Mark add context to the difference between the Mercedes drivers' race results. Stark contrast to some pointless but predictable Hamilton-bashing, most notably, Nico Rosberg's unprofessional and vacuous comments during live coverage of Sunday's race.
Haha, Rosberg has much more experience/expertise than some random Mark. What he said about Hamilton was absolutely true. Whatever Mark said didn't make sense as he was trying to justify Hamilton's below average performance in any senseless way. Tyres not heating and whatnot, whereas as Russell was more than 3 tenths quick on his first lap in Q3. Whatever Mark says is gibberish, which suits his lack of eloquence anyway.
@@Amory98 Mark has been one of the most respected motorsport journalists for years, why would he try to justify Hamilton's performance? He's just telling it as it is. Your comment absolutely makes no sense.
@ScarAngusArobieke Don't be ridiculous… why on earth would he want to be an apologist? We have seen already in some races that Russell (and in previous seasons with Bottas) has been quicker than Hamilton in Q1 and Q2 but not in Q3. Had they both managed a second, proper qualifying lap before the red flag, Russell still may have been quicker than Hamilton - or vice-versa - but they didn't, so we'll never know. Their Q3 laps determined their races exactly as Mark described.
@@ryanbaptiste249 I don't actually see any respect for him or for his bias. Perhaps for you he is. As usual his voice starts to crack more than it normally does when he has to praise Max for the biggest points gain on a single weekend in the history of F1.
@@ryanbaptiste249 Everyone is failing to acknowledge that Lewis used a higher down force rear wing and George used the lower down force rear wing. Further George made all his places on lap 1 and then couldn’t get within 5 seconds of the McLaren of Lando who never had Drs when it was activated. The Merc has a bad car and it is in the balance due to the gear box layout and weight distrtribution to t the rear creating more porpoising. MCL does not use the Merc gearbox and weight distribution is more forward but still more drag than the RB and the Ferrari.
The stuff he says makes no sense either . Saying the Red Bull wasn’t faster and was just on the better side of the grid is insanity max was flying. Saying GR has been lucky vs LH is crazy too lol.
@@franp19 Being totally unbiased McLaren I am going to point out that Checo did slow LeClerc in the first stint by driving a half second slower per lap allowing Max to get a 8 second advantage. Also George Russell only made up places on lap 1 and then couldn’t get within 5 seconds of McLaren the entire race. George had smaller rear wing than Lewis used so they had different set ups and no difference race performance
Can we confidently say Sergio perez is back and better than the departed second drivers of Redbull?
Definitely.
Without a doubt
Everything is great… until the car starts acting up, then Max will be half a second up the road again.
If there’s one thing that’s constant, a car that is neutral and easy to drive brings team mates very close together. A difficult car will suit one or the other.
let’s watch and see.
Departed? Did something happen?
It was only a few days ago I could have sworn I saw Albon, Gasly and Ricciardo on the track.
@@batuksri I wish DaniRic had stayed at RB. Even if Max was given preferential treatment, which Horner denied but was flat out obvious and is the same for all teams anyway so big deal, DaniRic would have still done far far better than the sad state he's in right now. Aah well, Checo is undoubtedly doing very very well. And Bottas is also showing why change isn't always better. They could have done with both experienced drivers tackling the 2022 redesign, and made a change later. Seems Merc would need a new driver in any case soon, Lewis may extend another year but if it's this shit poor performance all year.
Max to me seems like he's driving in a much calmer state now that he's won the championship. It feels like he's driving without the pressure on his shoulders and he's thriving this way. Checo also looking amazing this season so far. Every time a Red Bull has finished they've been in a strong position.
Agree very much. Max would be in the lead if it wasnt for car failures. Even though charles, george and lando are the same age as max.. max has 3 years more f1 experience and it is really showing. Still a long season to go but its looking good so far. 😊
"I have achieved my goal which is the world drivers championship. From now on everything is bonus."
If perez continues to perform like this it could be an easier championship for redbull than last year. He didn't take too many points from lewis last year, especially when lewis was off position, like Sotchi, Imola and Silverstone.
Honda seems to make it best, and Perez can have some wonderful fights! RB all the way!
It’s leclerc a weakness. Not being first. And he will live it 110%.
Easier championship 🤡, you're acting like as Ferrari is out of the game. Do I need to remember you that we have no upgrades to the car until now while rb has already many? Wait until barcelona to say if redbull will have an easy champ
@@matteogamba3236 lol why are all italians so salty
@@matteogamba3236 Yes but Redbull will also bring upgrades at barcelona. They still have heavier floor without stay. Since FIA allowed floor stays surely Redbull will bring new floor. And even though redbull got lighter at Imola it is still heavier than ferrari.
Plus upgrades don't always make you faster. In 2018 upgrades actually made Ferrari slower.
The British Media slowly returning to the Vettel days at Red Bull. Give the credit mostly to the car.
AGREE. The wolf changes his hair, but never the character
Yeah even though Lewis‘ championships after 2016 were all earned with the best car by far and no competition from his teammate . The british bias is strong here.
The real benefit of perez was the fact that the team had the confidence to use him to collect all of the sprint race data in fp2 thus allowing max to concentrate on race data ,a luxury that ferrari did not have / use
Well spotted
Even with a small mistake perez was driving away from charles. Total control of the race. No way charles was getting by checo!
Difference is that Max HAS faught for a championship before, that too against Lewis, AND made lesser errors than Lewis. So he knows the mental state he needs to be in to perform at his best under unimaginable pressure, Charles hasn't had that experience yet.
Agree. He comes out of the closest and highest pressure seasons in decades and came out on top. I think his experience will give him the edge over Charles.
@@Marc98338 indeed.
Not only that but Ferrari haven't been in championship contention for so long as a team .
The crews skill and decision making all play a part in winning a title , rb have edge in that department currently
It’s way early in the season and Ferrari drivers are cracking under pressure. It’s going to get worse. Red Bull is going to take this championship if they find reliability in most races. Ferrari are set to implode. Charles and Sainz are great drivers but they’ve never had championship experience before.
@@Loki-sk7bi truly great are those drivers who can retain their greatness under ungrateful circumstances.
I don't see how you can say that Ricciardo is operating at Perez level (when he finished 18th, with Land 3rd) , and then say that the Aston Martin drivers were simply profiting from mixed up circumstances in the race. The race was far less mixed up than other GP's we've seen. It was a bad race from him, that's all. And it's not a one off
tThe actual DoTD were Tsunoda and Vettel. They outperformed their car. Max was flawless all weekend
Lando had a great race too.
Checo did say Max would struggle with a low rake concept as much as he had done with the high. To me it's not surprising Checo is doing much better now since the new regulations now forces Red Bull to drive low rake, but what I find interesting and not at all surprising either is how Max is still keeping up his amazing streak of a win, p2 or nothing at all despite these changes. He's struggling, but it doesn't effect his results at all. He's proving again to belong to the best of the best.
RB is edging Ferrari hard in that 2nd driver department. Whether by own-fault or luck, Sainz has left Ferrari high and dry and out of option to help Charles fight RB. Very back and forth battles as reflected in the point table. What an amazing season so far. Ofcourse, Merc's misery is the cream on top, unless you are merc/LH fans.
Mark always has a hard time praising Max and Redbull, even when they've earned it. Such is his bias against them.
Ikr. You just gotta go with it even though it's annoying ( makes me like Max even more since he keeps proving them wrong- being more calm, cleaner driving, etc.)
Kinda annoying, right? I mean, there are fanbois all round - but The Race should hold itself to higher standards IMO
Even Mr. Kravits joins the camouflaged anti Max messages which creep up every second commentating session. The most used is the hidden message which sounds like: "..now Max Verstappen, whatever you might think of him, today he did a decent job...(the Race)" then the commentator continues with:"..and again a brilliant, brilliant drive from Lando, who came home in third place.. I do not know if my examples make clear what I mean but maybe this will do it:...>> now Lando Norris, whatever you might think of him" or "..>> Daniel Ricciardo, whatever you might think of him" or "..>> Sebastian Vettel, whatever you might think of him" or " etcetera and so on. Sounds strange does'nt it? When Lando, Daniel or Seb is called with the very suggestive 'whatever you might think of...' anybody would promptly ask: " What do you mean by that...whatever you..." It is going on for a long time now this hidden negative suggestive messaging in the English media. It is time to overstep your bias shadow and see Max Verstappen in a kinder light. Like Lando and Daniel do, to give you a lead.
The good thing is that Max doesn't care LOL
Sergio is only five points behind Max in championship points, raises him aboard as a contender for the championship. Sergio is definitely the black horse this season.
People forget that in Perez' head he is clearly in a chance for a title this year
Verstappen's psychological advantage is that he has not made any mistakes this season at all. His two retirements were technical. Leclerc is mentally strong, but surely he'll realize that he was the first to blink...
I don't think Leclerc is as mentally strong as Max. He always blames himself and beats himself down on that, whereas Max just forgets about it and moves on.
Difference is that Max HAS faught for a championship before, that too against Lewis, AND made lesser errors than Lewis. So he knows the mental state he needs to be in to perform at his best under unimaginable pressure, Charles hasn't had that experience yet.
@@Amory98 And because Max does have a championship now, he doesn't have that pressure anymore that he *needs* to win at all costs. He has achieved his life goal, and so the pressure to get a 2nd title is way less than his first. But of course he's still motivated enough to go for multiple world titles.
Its good that leclerc made mistake this early in this season and now its upto him to learn from it. For sure RB will not back out they are very competitive and both Max and Perez has tons of experience
@@FormulaJuan75 Jos Verstappen probably wasn't too easy on Max growing up and with race performance.
I get a win
He gets a win
I get a grand slam
He gets a grand slam
He even got a GRANDER slam (+sprint)
"This my neighbor, Charles Leclerc. He is pain in my ***holes. I get a win, he get a win. I get a grand slam, he must get a grand slam. I get a championship, he cannot afford. Great success."
Red bull got the most out of the tyres…plus Max is great.
Mark's voice starts to crack even more than usual when he HAS to say at least something about Max's/Redbull's brilliant performance.
Well, Bottas was also never promoted.... But yes, Checo deserves more praise.
Ricciardo operating at a Sergio Perez level?
Since when did Perez became the official mark for an underperforming team mate?
not Mercedes' miserable weekend, but Hamilton's miserable weekend
The Merc is bad car even George couldn’t get within 5 seconds of MCL that never had DRS - George only made pass on lap 1 and nothing else.
Yet he still finished 4th so a good weekend for russel but lewis was awful you can't deny it
15:13 you guys keep saying Leclerc went for the undercut and that he pitted first. Did you guys not watch the race at all? Perez pitted first for the overcut and then Leclerc a lap later... this is your job is it not?
Lewis Hamilton Sympathy Podcast ;)
Ikr, finally the crybaby hamilton gets to know the mid field
@@ad5558 one time in his career but couldn’t have come too soon.
34 points in 1 race weekend. most points ever :D
I'd like to point three things out, all pertaining to Williams.
1) Albon had the pace to keep up with Ocon. He was only 1.5 seconds behind. The only reason he didn't stay 0.5sec behind Ocon was because Williams wanted to save the tires and they were overheating behind Ocon, so Alex backed off.
2) Williams looks progressively quicker every week. Dave Robson, head of vehicle performance has stated that their strategy wasn't to be quickest at the beginning of the year, but rather to balance the car, work out any glaring issues (like porpoising which they anticipated), and ensure that everything was functional and correlating with their wind tunnel and computational upgrades. Dorilton is still investing heavily, and these infrastructure enchantments don't come overnight, so they wanted to ensure everything's on course before seeking more performance. Dave Robson said that the two main priorities now are to get the car lower without inducing porpoising, and to increase downforce unilaterally to keep its current balance (which it's very balanced right now). He expects exponential performance improvements within the next three weeks.
3) Nicolas Latifi. He's taken the brunt of extremely harsh criticism, so it's only fair to point out when he excels. After lap 33, he gained more and more confidence, consistently running 1:21.1-6's which was quicker than Ricciardo, Zhou, Schumacher, Magnusson, Hamilton, Gasly, Albon, Ocon, and even at times quicker than Russell and Norris. That's extremely impressive. I watched his onboard and there was a switch that seemingly turned on after lap 33. It just clicked. Will he continue this pace forward? I have no idea. Will he crash? I have no idea. Nevertheless, he deserves to be recognized for his relatively rapid pace for over half the GP. Hopefully he can keep that pace up and help Alex push Williams up the grid.
This will be a pure merit championship
Oh sure….
Because Ferrari and Redbull drivers pedal with their feet. 👀
It’s like we didn’t see Leclerc and Perez passing drivers like Swiss cheese 🧀
The same kind of thing we used to moan about with Mercedes.
@@lekudos I’m not sure you understand what the word merit means
LOL at these guys trying to apologize for Hammy wammy
So many excuses and nonsense arguments made for him. GR has joined a new team, had to learn new processes and learn and drive a car not made with his preferences in mind. Yet he has smashed LH this season.
Can Mark be a bit less irritatingly biased? Mentioned charles' lockup on hie fastest qualifying lap but not that Max put his Redbull on pole despite completely lifting off due to yellow flag.
Britain bias at its finest 😉
@@mohammedbinmahfooz7718 not really a "Britain", Scott is so fair to him.
It's hard for fanboys to comprehend the fact that others not calling their favourite driver the greatest of all time for every single thing they do isn't actually a sign of an inherent bias, but I generally find they get over it as they age. It is not normal behaviour to leave three comments in a row on a single video because it didn't praise your favourite driver *enough*, and taking something like that so personally is your problem.
Mark Hughes is talking about Lando and Lewis contrary to Verstappen and Magnussen or any other non-Brit driver. His preferences shine through blindingly.
@@jeroenbons637 Exactly. Lando is so overrated imo. Used to be a likeable guy before but now he seems like a dick this season.
Can we talk about how F1 won’t promote Sergio Perez? 😔
He's been the under rated driver, am so happy that Aston Martin kicked him out, even if red bull leaves Sergio perez this season end atleast perez had a taste of a top team, right now Redbull reserve is not that looking great, not bad either, I would say jehan daruvala or vips or Lawson or Hauger are not best enough to replace Perez next season, Jehan is currently P3 in F2 but he's took two seasons already to be this decent in f2 same goes for others too, they are all been meddling in F2
@@Raveendhana tsunoda is far better than daruvala who probably wont even make f1 at any point
@@Gl-my8fw Plus he's younger and already raced against him in F2 and easily performed better.
@@Gl-my8fw yep
Same reason they won't admit Riccardo is garbage in comparison to Norris 'he needs time'
Comparing Perez to D Ric and saying that levels are similar. That is nuts! Ric was at McLaren struggling since last year and this year is the same. I'm sorry but saying things like this makes me think twice before listening to your podcast.
Why though? If you don’t take in consideration the cars that are at different levels of performance, Daniel had slightly better race pace than Lando if you look at the data (excluding Imola when the car was damaged), but you can’t say the same thing about Sergio comparing to Max. RIC - 0,09% on NOR race pace vs. VER - 0,30% on PER after Round 3
@@catia6862 You're just only comparing this year what about last year. Are we supposed to just forget all about it? In these past 4 races Perez has a pole. What many poles does Ric has this year or points? (Diff in points btw Max and Perez is only 5) What is the difference in points between Lando and RIC ?
Also in the past Perez had been in teams that were struggling and he was always scoring points. It didn't matter the team he was in. But Ric is not as consistent as Perez. So you can NOT compare them. Also D Ric is a clown. He thinks he is the party but in reality he is not even funny most of the time.
Daniel ricciardo isn’t struggling this season his pace has been as good as lando Saudi he was on for points but reliability let him down Australia he drove a solid race and imola he was on the same pace as lando but collided with Sainz and then got pushed into sainz more by bottas. So please talk before you speak.
@@fourthdeconstruction A pole position in a McLaren is almost impossible at the moment. And comparing the number of points between team mates is not always as relevant if you take in consideration DNFs, reliability issues and so on. On the other hand comparing race pace gives you a better view between team mates using the same machinery and then maybe talking about Max/Checo vs. Lando/Daniel. The issues here is not if you consider Ricciardo funny or not 😉 but it says something about the objectivity of your analysis.
@@catia6862 Speaking about objectivity comparing only race pace and not comparing driving points and other issues like poles is not being objective enough. I remind you that team points are worth millions as a constructor and drivers points/podiums are the only measure that counts towards the history of a F1 driver. So race pace between teammates doesn't mean anything at end. If you're comparing teammates based only on race pace what you are saying is that G Russell is a better driver than 7 time world champion driver L. Hamilton, which is NOT true at all. Hope that you understand why race pace between teammates is not enough to compare drivers.
At what point does Williams replace Latifi??? The battle at the back of the grid is tight, and it seems like one driver can’t carry the team anymore… Williams are failing themselves big-time!!
They also need his money but truthfully he’s had his chances.
The Ferrari was quick but it was Leclercs badluck that he was trailing Perez coz we know how he is.
He's called the minister of defence for a reason.
Max on the other hand is in a different league coz even on weekends where he didn't had the faster car like Bahrain, he tried untill he locked up his tires, even in Saudi he tried and same in the sprint after loosing the lead he got past.
This is what makes him the best coz he tries no matter what, winning and loosing is other thing but trying is what he does and even before 2021 he always had this fighting mentality and not giving up.
See Australia 2016 with Hamilton in a dominant Merc and Max in a Toro Rosso kept him behind for many laps untill Lewis gave up
Don't call a mistake bad luck. What happened to Carlos was badluck.
@@Amory98 yeah but it was a start so I thought calling badluck is fine as then others will get triggered.
But yeah Charles didn't make the perfect start when it mattered unlike sprint.
@@Amory98 Carlos did make a mistake and was unforced at Quali (last turn) when we got trigger happy and same thing with Lec during the race. Bad luck is when yiu get hit, engine stops working, etc.
Perez being ahead of Max until the last race in the eyes of the British: Really key ally to Verstappen
thanks alot for chaptering the podcast! great podcast as ever
Not sure what the problem is with Ricciardo other then he made an error at the start. His speed was there if not for a couple of red flags he might have qualified in front of Norris. Both he and Vettel are recovering from a lack of mileage at the start of the year.
Agree that Ric and Lando are even in the 2022 car. Imola reminds me of Brazil last year where Lando tried to pass Sainz at the start made contact and got puncture and dropped to back and was never in the race. Sometimes circumstances play a larger factor than most people realize.
Adrian Newey and the team development of the car is why Ferrari is stunned. Put Max in the best car and wave bye bye. Same as Lewis, but Mercedes obviously is baffled how to reduce vertical oscillation [porposing].
I like the info this channel brings. But, these guys are always doing whatever they can to make excuses for Hamilton.
TSUU was driver of the day. He seems to love the rain.
Love these pod bull sessions guys, great stuff. I would like to hear your takes on the TV coverage- I am really frustrated with the camera and on-screen info production choices so far this year. Let's hope they right the ship soon.
Maxipad gave everyone a taste of his Verstrapon in Italy
Can’t tell if your a fan or not
@@adamozmin8970, a fan(ny)?
@@adamozmin8970 Not taking his comment serious. No matter if he is a fan or not.
Nicely produced video. Mick crashes too much but he’s still young
It will help him now that he has an actual benchmark to compare too. Kevin will be a good teammate for mick.
It's wrong to say "Hamilton was stuck in a DRS train". When DRS wasn't even enabled for the first 32 laps!!
Did you see any cars carving through the field? Very few passes on Sunday.
The damp conditions made it impossible to outbreak anybody in the breaking zone. That's the only chance that Merc have of passing anybody, it's too slow in the straights.
Exactly but telling the truth doesn’t conform to the narrative these biased fools want to push out there. GR has smashed LH all season but here especially but excuses kept being made on LH behalf. Helmet might have been joking but the reality is surely LH is reevaluating his position. It’s easier keeping fresh and fit when you have by far the quickest car with no competition within your own team forget anyone else.
I mean, Mark has got to come up with some bullshit excuse to defend Hamilton's abysmal performance. That's Mark's job on this channel. To downplay Max (and any non British driver) and concoct praise for Lewis even if he isn't in the points.
@@kgriff5537 Perez, Tsunoda, Russell are three examples from the top of my head who outbreaked to make moves stick. Races have happened on wet tracks before. Overtaking has been done on wet tracks before. Stop coming up with gibberish to defend ham
Bro. There were not that many passes in that race. If your car is a second faster than the other car. The Red Bulls and Ferraris have a second on the field.
The Merc didn't gain any place in the sprint either when they got stuck in the lower midfield also. The car is too slow on the straights now. Now in free air, it's probably the 3rd fastest in race condition. George got a blinder of a start therefore he was able to extract the most out of the car. Not one time during the race Lewis had free air to maximize the car's potential. That's what the analyst means circumstances. That's what good analyst do , look on the circumstances then make a judgement., not just headlines.
The British bias is strong here. All this nonsense about “it’s the car” is starting up again. Pity, it was nowhere to be seen when LH won his titles with by far the fastest car on the grid with the greatest pace advantage ever seen. Yet, you wish to promote LH as the GOAT when frankly his achievements pail in comparison to others before him.
2018 title battle 2017 and 2019 I love how people like you try to discredit Lewis Hamilton's achievements by saying fastest car but truth is you need consistency to win championships and Bottas didn't have that Bottas would win 1 race and Lewis wins the next 5
@@siyaaviation3659 They weren’t actual title battles extending across a whole season. He didn’t have a title challenge. In 2017, LH walked 9 wins to SV 5. In 2018, LH won 11 GP to SV 5. In 2019, LH won 11 GP to VB 4 GP. So try as you may to cling on to some level of credibility to LH titles, you’re not fooling anyone with that consistency argument. Bottom line he had easily the fastest car across that season but for a few races and a number two driver in his own team that moved over for him happily at his beck and call. Most adequate drivers not screwed over by strategy calls in that car would have taken the fight to him and in the two seasons someone did take the fight to him across a whole season, he lost with NR in 2016 and MV in 2021 where he looked ragged and made a lot of mistakes.
@@kwl189 Vettel in 2018 just had to win in Singapore and get a decent result in suzuka and he would potentially win the championship but he bottled it when your Barechelo was letting shumi through people didn't complain and red bull treat max as number 1 driver also Hamilton beat Nico 2014-15 before 16 but it doesn't matter you'll love Hamilton when he retires
@@siyaaviation3659 nope 2018 wasn’t like that because LH was dominant at the back end of that season. Case in point LH won the last four of the six GPs. So it’s irrelevant what SV would have done because even the hapless VB was able to win in that car in this period. SV had no chance of winning that title. 11 wins vs 5. What part of that don’t you understand as being non competitive? You can keep trying to pretend as if SV bottled it but really, he could have done everything right at Singapore and Germany and he would have been walked over by LH and Mercedes Benz AMG Petronas anyway with the clear fastest car. Barrichello rarely moved over for Schumacher and when he did, people bitched and cried like no tomorrow as they do whenever Scuderia Ferrari excel in F1. Martin Brundle was deplorable in his saltiness against SV at Red Bull. All teams have their number one driver. Only Mercedes Benz AMG Petronas pretend as if they don’t while Scuderia Ferrari are clear about it with the policy only changing recently in light of the different point scoring systems at play and different mechanics of the sports developing. Yes. LH beat NR in 2013/2014/2015 but he did lose when NR got it together in 2016 before NR retired from F1. The team was ripped apart that season. Nobody will miss LH on the grid when he walks away.
@@kwl189 People said no one will miss shumacher and people hated vettel in his domination period f1 fans don't like someone dominating
The sprint race is definitely here to stay as having qualifying* on the Friday is an extra revenue stream for the F1 owners, TV companies and the race tracks
* yeah 'qualifying', although it's not really...
Zero charity to Red Bull or Max. The bias is just dripping.
Pouring
Niagara-ing actually. Mark's voice starts to crack even more than usual when he HAS to say at least something about Max's/Redbull's brilliant performance.
Remember when people were saying Alfa and Haas would struggle, after their pre season testing struggles? How the turns table
Mainly with flawless driving.
Do you guys think cooler track temp helped Red Bull's reliabilty?
I seem to think so but the Ferrari is better at warming up their tires and keeping the temps in them. Another thing is Ferrari is better in tracks with lower speeds and slower corners since they get better exit speeds and more mechanical grip lower down. But once it comes to the mid and fast circuits, the pendulum swings to RB. Miami will be warmer than Imola but the track seems to suit RB based on it being a high speed circuit. Let's see whether the lower temps benefit the Ferrari or not next weekend.
Different track. RB also lost some weight so the pace between ferrari and RB is closer. It seems RB excels ferrari at high to medium speed turns
It was a fuel component issue, not an engine problem
It was to do with a short bit of fuel line. I think driver61 has a video about it.
@@holkn exactly
How ever Sergio drives f1 community ignores him
Not sure about that. He's probably the most overrated driver on the grid right now.
@@garythefishable overrated how? Serious question.
@@Jesus-fy6mk Well he is generally smacked to pieces by his genuinely talented teammate Max (the god) Verstappen. Perez is not terrible but often get praised for beating drivers who are clearly in inferior cars.
Perez is very good in momentary wheel to wheel racing, but he isn't very good in piecing it all together a delivering a flawless weekend. That's the difference between a good racer and a champion.
Now that Ferrari have a fast car again, watching Sainz underperform either in qualifying or the race, and watching Leclerc crumble under pressure, I'm beginning to question whether they have the DRIVERS to go *toe to toe* with Verstappen and Red Bull in a tight championship fight. 🤔 🤨
I don't think it's a fair assessment to say that Leclerc has "crumbled under pressure" when this is his first real racing error with major consequences of the season.
If it becomes a pattern, then we can visit this particular narrative, but it's absolutely too early to be going with this particular evaluation.
Van24 agreed and people were too quick to put the racing crown on his head after the DRS battle in Bahrain. It’s great to see people get exited though. What a start
Both are better than their other options were.
@@Gl-my8fw I'm not sure Sainz is a better option than Vettel. Seb in a quick car would fare better than Carlos in my opinion, but let's see how things go from here.
I wonder if Sergio and his camp have already been informed by RB that they plan to extend his contract, but are waiting to make an announcement this early in the season for Gaslys sake.
Hold of because Marko has been talking about Audi and Porsche engines which means the RB Powertrain dream could fall through.
It could mean Perez powerful sponsors not renewing with RB. In which case Gasly is back in the car.
@@Phantom096 RB don't have Perez in the team cause he brings sponsor money. That's just a bonus.
@@areebsiddiqui758 So if that’s true why is Marko talking about Audi and Porsche coming in as engine builders.
What about his own project which is a big effort after poaching engineers from Merc. Is RB Powertrain’s not working as they have hoped.
@@areebsiddiqui758 Like him or not when old man Marko speaks I listen carefully. He after all is the right hand to the owner of RBR.
Horner is just a manager or front man.
@@Phantom096 I don't think you know what you're talking about. Honda will build the RB engines till 2025 despite them being badged as RBPT. There's talks that after 2025 Porshce or Audi might join in a collaborative effort. Now I don't know why you brought Perez into the conversation. Him staying with the team has nothing to do with it.
Marko is a crazy old bat, nobody pays attention to what he says. Most of what comes out of his mouth is utter rubbish anyway. And no, Horner is the main guy at RB when it comes to running the team and administration. Marko officially is just in charge of young driver development.
Really enjoy all the content from The Race, but I think you guys are missing a trick by not having a regular video presenting your driver ratings. Lists / rankings are loved on TH-cam and surely it would stimulate a lively comment section. Just a suggestion!
Hands down you guys have the best F1 Podcast! Most Podcast are pretty bias to specific drivers and teams, you guys are great to cover all teams without an unbiased opinion
We need drivers pushing like Charles was. I want want him to win the title this season but I don’t want it to be easy for him
There comes a time in a race when you have to think about the long game though. A certain 3rd is a lot better than 6th, or very close to 0 like he was. The championship is a long game thing. Sometimes you have to be smart. As much h as I didn't like him, Prost won 3 of his 4 titles by thinking long game.
Edit: I've been a Ferrari fan since 1982, and NOTHING would make me happier this year than a double championship for Ferrari.
Of course when Mick gets in the top 10, points are only given to the top 8. (Sprint Race)I had a feeling that was gonna happen.
And because of that no point P10, it was easily all forgotten about.
During the Grand Prix he didn’t help himself either by taking out Alonso and twirling a couple times.
Red Bull is stepping it up
And consequently Mark's voice is cracking up 😂
Lando did his usual stuff , great qualifying then maximizing what the car is capable of . Great start and driving and consistency and definitely best of the rest on the day. Lando didnt need to push hard . Just control his race. Just bad luck for Danny that he wasn't up in the points too. Just with MIck he has been found out. Winner of F2 by virtue of lots of thirds. Good driver but not great.
Agred but he now has a better chance at improving with kmag as a tramate.
@@20biomed08 I agree, lets hope he does
Time to reprofile the straight after Tamburello, and remove Villeneuve? Two short straights right now with no overtaking < one half-decent straight that will offer some overtaking
This seems unfair to George, can we not just say he did a better job. Lewis was never getting out of q2, he got there by the skin of his teeth !
Given Red Bulls hiring policy is to go through the Mercedes’ team and take the best people, Mercedes should hire Adrian Newey.
I wonder who's going to do well in Miami? It's quite a high speed circuit
High speed.
Well that’s another sad weekend for Toto, Lewis, and George then…
ferrari will be definitely bringing updates
@@lekudos hahahaha
@@anurag15271 binotto said he'll bring the real "big" upgrades in barca
High speed will favour Red Bull. They seem to have a power advantage
Imo F1 should find a way to make the cars shorter, and lighter. Tbh I think that's everybodys wish. There must be a way to do it
defenitely a lewis defender
Please do a video on Alfa Romeo vs Haas
Hammie apologist channel is spinning tales on why he is being owned by Russell. Last year Bottas would have been roasted for Hammies performance to no end
Bottas was a mix of lucky and unlucky with the Sainz/Ricciardo incident, since one of the cars literally climbed his front wing, there was even a tyre mark (is it marc or mark, Brazilian here)
How could F1 be outgrowing Imola when you have circuits (including new ones) that are much narrower and lack the safety that Imola has.
Monaco is a tricky one, it’s literally F1 royalty and at the same time the worst racing of the year.
Like Monaco …. 🥱
@@adamozmin8970 Well that is Monaco. I'm talking about Imola. Jeddah is the prime example of what I am talking about but you could include many of the new circuits that lack safe runoffs like the straights of Baku and the castle section for instance. Singapore is another.
because they're hacks who don't respect history.
Crossing the finish line probably helped just a bit, Especially after losing a little bit of weight which will help with overall pace / tire management.
Gary has gotta have one of the biggest old man voices I’ve ever heard
The amount of bias is repugnant... still looking for good unbiased f1 podcasts. The videos from the channel are awesome but these podcasts are lacking in comparison.
Who are the speakers in this podcast
small mistakes, it happens? Leclerc's attacking style... sort of came to Red Bull? When verstappen had a slight mistake in qualifying last year or even Hamilton early on in his career, this same mistake would've been called a huge choke moment or verstappen would've been entirely, unneccesarily aggressive... a mistake that could've cost them the title.
This was the worst race of the season so far. It's a brilliant track, but not suitable for F1 cars.
it was zhong pi stip delay right?
"We should say, (Mercedes) still have what's usually the third fastest car, so they are still on course to be third in the championship". Is Straw as clueless as this sounds, or have I been watching a different season?
This podcast is a direct representation on why I like listening to you all. Non bias and look at all aspects of a race to understand overall performance.
After Imola, and people (including Nico) kept voicing how the places between Lewis and George are so different and voicing it was all on Lewis. But I had been saying the same things Mark here has been saying. It was very circumstantial based on the tire warm up needs and the grid start on Sunday. If you watched the whole grid, you can see all the cars that George passed at the line created a 3 car wall pile up directly behind making it impossible for Lewis to get past, and he got stuck in a train on a track super hard to pass already.
When thinking on going more aggressive with nothing to lose, people keep forgetting about the cost cap right now. He was already in 14th and going up a couple spots not getting into points position, the risk of a crash is costly (that MB would prefer saving for upgrades).
just watch rus being faster than ham all year long. just watch.
Leclerc fucked up yes by taking way too much curb and launching it into the wall BUT Ferrari also fucked up by calling him in for a pitstop when he could easily have just continued based on the small frontwing endplate damage. He could have been 3rd or 4th if he just stayed out for a lap to see the pace of the car. Unlucky sainz got punted into the gravel trap, this underscores why gravel should be REMOVED from all F1 tracks as it really hurts the race and often gets cars stuck, while providing 0 grip. Asphault runoffs at least provide some surface traction to give drivers a chance to recover, a chance to avoid accidents and lets the tires actually work so you don't end up in the wall as often. Remove the god damn gravel and you'll instantly have better racing.
You are not wrong but I disagree with everything you have said, faint heart never won fair maiden and the decision to take a risk is more respectable. At least they can say they tried even though it didn’t pay off this time.
As for gravel it makes the race way more exiting and helps separate the men from the boys. You might not be old enough to remember playing Mario cart but Rainbow road had no barriers and was instant loose if you came off the track. So much more satisfying to win
Also moments like Brazil 2021 Max and Lewis wouldn’t happen and Saudi where Max dive bombed and took the place and Hamilton just skipped the corner completely.
Yes It can be harsh to people who get a bump and end up stuck like Sainz but for me the pros out way the cons
@@adamozmin8970 ‘You are not wrong but i disagree with everything you have said’ Lmao, this was great to read. I agree with you
No. Gravel should remain because ultimately we saw drivers being punished for their mistakes and the bravest drivers won outright this GP. More chance of separating the boys from the men. Also CL couldn’t steer left very well. Staying out with so many laps to do, would have hurt them with the damage on the wing. The wing might also have been knocked loose and could have potentially come off with all the porpoising Scuderia Ferrari does on the straights.
Mark, your Lewis fanboy is really starting to show.
Crymilton sympathy podcast
You win good comment, you lose something not good coming out. I remember a while so pist and blame his team
Its nice that Leclerc and Ferrari have the pace to be a contender, good for the championship and hope it lasts until the end but we all know how good Ferrari is in making decisions on the pitwall...
The fact that they havent really fucked up there yet tells me that is still coming, so i dont think it matters how good Charles (or Sainz) drive cuz i know they will get fucked by their own team at some point.
Haven’t been this early before👀
The new cars make following easier but greatly reduce the slipstream effect. So you are kind of back to square 1 in a way.
Really ?
Absolutely Gutted for Checo’s Legions of fans around the world from the Americas to India and Japan that thought Checo could win a championship at Red Bull.
max didn't get dnf that's why
I think max will be more consistent than Charles. and Charles will falter over the whole season
Swear last season this was a ham fan channel hmm funny how the comment section looks very different these days 😂 bandwagon’s
I see a lot of Hamilton haters came here to hear the cast bash Hamilton. Instead, they got a thorough analysis of the race and not ignoring circumstances. And they don't like it. 😂
This is why I tune in to these guys weekly, by far the best F1 podcast out there. Analysis is always spot on.
I've been hearing a lot of nonsense about LH washed up.. but I'm watching his times vs GR and they are the same. Sometimes luck plays a role but no one wants to hear it. Everyone wants to hate on him.
@@BNWhitty It was a perfect storm for a bad race being stuck in the lower midfield. The only way for this Merc to past on that damp narrow track was DRS, or in the pit window. Normally the Merc would have a second or more on these guys so they could work their way through the field. Not this Merc to slow on the straights so they couldn't blast by cars down the straight unless they have assistance of DRS advantage. Bare in mind, DRS train is no DRS assistance for the trailing cars. That's what he had to deal with. Also they couldn't jump anyone in the pits because with the threat of rain they didn't want to bring him in put on slicks and it start raining again. So that option was not available for the teams.
@@kgriff5537 I agree 100%.
I disagree that he could not have made 2nd. Sure he could have, he just made a mistake, simple.
perez was already pulling away and that's what made charles desperate. he would never catch him. rb was just too fast with the upgrades and wight reduction.
@@alexcepile1420 obviously you weren’t watching the race because after sector 1 Charles was right on Checo until he took too much kerb and spun. Charles had a chance for second in the final laps.
@@mattbilello6229 no. perez was starting to pull away and you can see it from leclerc on board camera. pay more attention next time ;)
Mercedes has built a dog that has nothing to do with porpoising. They will do it again from scratch.
YO
Great to hear Mark add context to the difference between the Mercedes drivers' race results. Stark contrast to some pointless but predictable Hamilton-bashing, most notably, Nico Rosberg's unprofessional and vacuous comments during live coverage of Sunday's race.
Haha, Rosberg has much more experience/expertise than some random Mark. What he said about Hamilton was absolutely true. Whatever Mark said didn't make sense as he was trying to justify Hamilton's below average performance in any senseless way. Tyres not heating and whatnot, whereas as Russell was more than 3 tenths quick on his first lap in Q3. Whatever Mark says is gibberish, which suits his lack of eloquence anyway.
@@Amory98 Mark has been one of the most respected motorsport journalists for years, why would he try to justify Hamilton's performance? He's just telling it as it is. Your comment absolutely makes no sense.
@ScarAngusArobieke Don't be ridiculous… why on earth would he want to be an apologist? We have seen already in some races that Russell (and in previous seasons with Bottas) has been quicker than Hamilton in Q1 and Q2 but not in Q3. Had they both managed a second, proper qualifying lap before the red flag, Russell still may have been quicker than Hamilton - or vice-versa - but they didn't, so we'll never know. Their Q3 laps determined their races exactly as Mark described.
@@ryanbaptiste249 I don't actually see any respect for him or for his bias. Perhaps for you he is. As usual his voice starts to crack more than it normally does when he has to praise Max for the biggest points gain on a single weekend in the history of F1.
@@ryanbaptiste249 Everyone is failing to acknowledge that Lewis used a higher down force rear wing and George used the lower down force rear wing. Further George made all his places on lap 1 and then couldn’t get within 5 seconds of the McLaren of Lando who never had Drs when it was activated. The Merc has a bad car and it is in the balance due to the gear box layout and weight distrtribution to t the rear creating more porpoising. MCL does not use the Merc gearbox and weight distribution is more forward but still more drag than the RB and the Ferrari.
Mark always has a hard time praising Max and Redbull, even when they've earned it. Such is his bias against them.
I have big book on Lewis years ago so you may be right
The stuff he says makes no sense either . Saying the Red Bull wasn’t faster and was just on the better side of the grid is insanity max was flying. Saying GR has been lucky vs LH is crazy too lol.
@@franp19 Being totally unbiased McLaren I am going to point out that Checo did slow LeClerc in the first stint by driving a half second slower per lap allowing Max to get a 8 second advantage. Also George Russell only made up places on lap 1 and then couldn’t get within 5 seconds of McLaren the entire race. George had smaller rear wing than Lewis used so they had different set ups and no difference race performance