If you don't have a counter to the opponents air. Don't. This is a conceptual issue. You have units they have to counter and you have units you should counter. If you have units on the ground that get ignored before the wave is finished just mass produce those unit. Iif they don't counter them. They die. You literally use this mentality to your advantage in forts.
First thing about Karax. *Always* upgrade the repair beam, it's extremely strong, and the ability to heal 5 units instead of 3 is brilliant. Sadly it got a nerf in a recent patch, it used to affect allied units too, now it's only yours. Still great though. Regarding playing ground Karax, you had about the right idea, but it's usually a good idea to put down more zealots (not against Tychus, as I'm sure you noticed, but against most others) simply because they have so much durability for their cost. And contrary to what you thought, Karax is one of the commanders it can be most important to fast-tech with, he has absolutely no splash damage until t3, making him extremely easy to overwhelm with units like marines, hydras, etc. His sole counter to any kind of mass ground is colossi, meaning he does unfortunately need early t3 quite often. Late game, both your zealots and immortals are really just there to make the enemy stand still while your colossi melt everything. Again you're drastically underestimating a commander's air power. Han & Horner's air units are strong... but only situationally. None of their air units have splash damage or extra damage vs light, making them incredibly ineffective against massed light air units like mirages, mutalisks, etc. Also, this deimos vikings look strong in the air, but that is only true against armoured units, which mirages aren't. Karax's air is capable of competing with the best of them, in spite of how limited it is, mirages are insanely tanky, more so with the repair beam, even more so with a support carrier repair beam too. And nothing needs saying about carriers, they're beefy units with absurd dps. Pure air Karax is another setup I use with reasonably frequency, though it's rather more risky than air Vorazun because you either have mirages and nothing else to start with, or you've burned a huge number of minerals on going straight carrier. It can pay off very well if your team can carry you for a few waves, and your opponent isn't one that can (and is smart enough to) hard-counter you immediately. Aside from that I just have a couple of tips. Firstly, use your ability whenever you can! I noted you were hesitant in the last video with Vorazun's vortex, and today with Karax's giant laser of doom. Those t3 abilities, used right, will outright wipe out an enemy wave, so you should use them pretty much whenever their cooldown is up to get the most advantage from them. The vortex is best used in support of the ally with the most splash damage, so someone who has loads of colossi, archons, banelings, whatever, it's beautiful to watch a whole wave disappear in a few shots. The death beam should just be used in any tough wave your team is struggling with, since it'll kill pretty much any wave on its own. And secondly, upgrades! Once you've reached a reasonable number of units, it becomes more cost effective to upgrade than to build more. Partly because the cost:damage ratio is good, and partly because only a finite number of units can be attacking at once (especially true with melee) so you want them as strong as possible. Protoss suffer a bit from very expensive upgrades, but Karax for instance has very little use for shield upgrades and can more or less ignore those until the very end. Regarding your specific question to a solution against those deimos vikings though, mass mirages. But to take on the question in a more generalist sense, you hit on one of the solutions, which is simply don't play their game. Some commanders just don't have the capability to compete against vikings in the air (or you just didn't use the right build for it), so they should just not bother, and instead keep a heavy anti-armoured ground presence. It's almost comedic to see vikings land in the face of a full row of immortals. Just like with your mirages, another solution is to mass cheap, small, non-armoured air units and just bring them down with weight in numbers, the only requirement here is to make sure your ground presence is strong enough to at least distract the widow mines (H&H's only source of anti-air splash damage).
@pakman184 Top five? Let's see, #1 is definitely Zagara, she is completely unbeatable once she gets going. Aberrations are completely overpowered and pretty much uncounterable. They can't hit air units, but Zagara also has top notch air clearing power. She's merely adequate early game, but her early game units are easily good enough to drag the fight out longer. Also, she gets free units! #2 I would say Dehaka, as he's all but unbeatable once he gets going too, once you build to a certain number of creeper hosts with a good beefy tanking force in front. He's a lot more expensive and time consuming to reach that stage, but his early units are also better. Basically your objective is to reach the stage where your opponent is unable to reach your creeper hosts before your ally's wave arrives, when you hit that stage your opponent is screwed unless he can do something fast, because your creeper host swarm is only going to get bigger. After that things are a lot more even, nobody else has such a reliable "I-win" button. #3 and #4 go to Abathur and Vorazun, in no particular order. Both of them have an excellent all-round roster, complete with air and ground units to suit every role. They basically have no glaring weakness, no single hard counter to everything they do well, and no gaps in their capability. I'd argue those four can be fairly objectively said to be the best four commanders, but Zagara is the only one I get an impending sense of doom from when I encounter someone playing her. #5 is a tricky pick, I'm torn between Karax and Fenix... but I think Karax edges ahead for his stronger air presence late game. Both are very similar on the ground, zealot/adept, immortal, colossus being their core, but in the air mirages are simply better than scouts, armoured air units have too many counters, and the scout's anti-armour weapons are simultaneously bad against the typically light front line flyers they encounter. Karax also has the death star laser, which will outright win you the game used at the right moment. Also, you didn't ask, but I figured I'd give my opinion on the *worst* commanders too. Those being Swann and Tychus. Tychus is pretty much made of weaknesses, he's extremely vulnerable to massed units, he has no air presence at all, and he has to spend 700+ minerals to react every time the enemy throws a curveball. Swann is too one dimensional; his air presence is extremely weak and his ground units are *all* armoured with the exception of the hellbat, this leaves him incredibly easy to counter, as a single unit can frequently counter almost his entire roster. Also, Swann's t1 and t2 units are pretty barebones, he desperately needs t3 to compete against a lot of builds, which handicaps him terribly in the early game.
@@DarkFenix2k5 I agree with all of this, when I play Zagara I rush T3 because abberations are just too good, if they go air I mass Scourges to counter. Dehaka steamrolls over people if they don't know the typical Dehaka starts, and I definitely agree with Tycus being the weakest. If you end up countering your enemy you'll win for a long time, but you take 5 waves on average to respond to whatever your enemy is doing, while he's shifting his build to be from light to armored to back again, and don't forget about air and the bugs. Crooked Sam is supposed to disable the detection on the target his charge is on, instead he's just undetectable even to a scan, the War Hound is supposed to be aa, but his aa doesn't fire reliably so you have to use Vega (who is really strong actually) But no matter what you can outmass Tycus typically. I watched a Fenix go Arbiter and mass carriers vs a Tycus and won, the only thing he's got going for him is that every unit is Heroic, meaning that they can't be devoured by Dehaka or mind controlled... But they're just too expensive, I'd argue that if Tycus was just a Terran Fenix he'd be much better
pakman184 choose Alarak, himself+supplicants+slayers+havoc can beat almost everything even with 3 gases rushed in early+mid game. For late game you have ascendants and robotic combo, but don’t go for pure voids or prism too early cuz they can be easily countered.
Viking are best AA. Counter them with other air unit is just a waste. However, viking will land if they dont have air target and the Annihilator are much stronger than those Viking. Best way to kill them is to force them to land.
@@jand.4737 Yet, i dont understand why he went Colossus either. They are not very good VS Mechanical/Heroes. Wave 2 and 3 were Mechanical and Heroes Units. If he would have only Spam Sentinels, Annihilator and Energizer. He would have melt Wave 2 and 3 by him self and only leaving a few wraiths and the BC alive which Wave 1 can deal with easily with all the Hydras he had.
@@RenTed. He was beating the wave he was facing every time and then dying to the Stukov wave. Not really any point to beating a wave if you cannot get any permanent damage in, so he needed a way to beat the Stukov wave so he could damage their base.
So, it may seem counter intuitive, but if you are willing to entirely forego air power, you can easily counter HNH vikings with dedicated anti-armor on ground
You propably figured it out, but just to be sure/for other people. Countering vikings as Karax: "Never start a land war in asia." is a miltary saying. In Direct Strike the saying should be "never start a air war with Horner, Raynor or Zagara" instead! Horner got super Vikings, Raynor got splash Vikings and Zagara got suicide air to just clean you up. The lack of any ground/AA units is a big issues for Karrax. In Coop Karax usually just builds turrets in the right places, rather then any units. You can win some missions without having every built anything other then a probe! So just staying out of the air just does not work. That being said, the Mirrages should be effective. The invulnerability does block most of the ability damage. And those vikings only deal 34 vs Armored, not a tag Phoenix variants have. But with mirrages, better check. Your colossi and carriers most certainly have armored. And the mirrages might have cost on their side too, so you could maybe outspam them. With other commanders it depends. A good counter to triggered invulnerabiltiy is high firerate or splash. It spreads the tagging around quickly. Lift is either countered by being a massive unit or just having to many units to be out-lifted. Artannis Phoenix might be able to beat Karax Mirrages. Artannis has double lift, high firerate and bonus damage vs light. You might have to turn off lifts, but otherwise it is a promising combination. It is mostly a price question and how much ground/air you can bring as you do not have to worry about Karax ground/air. Zagara scourge are questionable. They rely on hitting quickly, to not be under fire. Invulnerable blocks that and high firerate kills them. So it is mostly a price question,
ironically enough i have a fun time spamming mirage against vikings as karax. immune to damage for a limited time allows you to out damage them easily if you have more mirage than their vikings
Mass Annihilators are probably your best solution. I usually don't use Annihilators much because i have to micro them in Coop game but in this Direct strike all are smart cast so mass Annihilators probably is the best for Karax to bust any heroes or epic units.
As a han and horner player, the Demios Vikings are stupid good, but they tend to prioritize air. So the Karax mirages that can tank them tends to gum up their AI.
The thing is Annihilator deals mostly spell damage which isn't upgradeable. Yes, they have their normal cannon as well, but it's their ability that was attacking flying Vikings. But yes, armour was lacking.
There are no solutions to vikings as Karax, unfortunately. You just have to rely on your teammates for that one. Energizers CAN be used to mindcontrol them, but its a late game option and relies on lucky positioning. Beam just causes them to blink, so definitely not recommended. I dunno of any matchup thats as onesided as Karax vs HnH atm. Vikings counter absolutely everything you can build, which is one of the reasons I dont bother with Karax anymore.
Karax! A great commander, with Zealots that revive and immortals that destroy single targets whether air or ground, mirages that keep enemy anti air in place for an eternity and a half, carriers that repair, collossus that leave burning ground in it's wake. And then there's the laser, oh my word there's the laser. Edit: if you made pheonix's vs Tycus I would have questioned your sanity XD The solution to Demios Vikings is mixed aa, some ground and some air, or mass cheap air, as deminos have aoe ground but massive single target airial damage, making them spend time morphing makes them pretty awful
cant your sentries here just mind control the vikings? i played as this recently and just spammed immos and sentries against a bunch of mech and it was easy
Yes. However the mind control only lasts a couple seconds. Mind control is good to stun their wave for a couple seconds, but doesn't actually solve the problem.
@@Incursus so you can make about 2 sentries for every viking in terms of minerals. Paired with annihilators, you can make them damage each other for 4 seconds each, and damage boost your own units. Could that not work?
How about forcing the vikings to land by not build air at all and so you can hit em with your ground? But in any case this won't work if they get the bc's though so... who knows?
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If you don't have a counter to the opponents air. Don't. This is a conceptual issue. You have units they have to counter and you have units you should counter. If you have units on the ground that get ignored before the wave is finished just mass produce those unit. Iif they don't counter them. They die.
You literally use this mentality to your advantage in forts.
Mass producing annihilators will just get you countered by the next wave Stukov, Incursus had to make Laser giraffes for splash.
@@TomFranklinX He needed to upgrade his units! Even mirages would have been fine if he had just had some shield upgrades.
First thing about Karax. *Always* upgrade the repair beam, it's extremely strong, and the ability to heal 5 units instead of 3 is brilliant. Sadly it got a nerf in a recent patch, it used to affect allied units too, now it's only yours. Still great though.
Regarding playing ground Karax, you had about the right idea, but it's usually a good idea to put down more zealots (not against Tychus, as I'm sure you noticed, but against most others) simply because they have so much durability for their cost. And contrary to what you thought, Karax is one of the commanders it can be most important to fast-tech with, he has absolutely no splash damage until t3, making him extremely easy to overwhelm with units like marines, hydras, etc. His sole counter to any kind of mass ground is colossi, meaning he does unfortunately need early t3 quite often. Late game, both your zealots and immortals are really just there to make the enemy stand still while your colossi melt everything.
Again you're drastically underestimating a commander's air power. Han & Horner's air units are strong... but only situationally. None of their air units have splash damage or extra damage vs light, making them incredibly ineffective against massed light air units like mirages, mutalisks, etc. Also, this deimos vikings look strong in the air, but that is only true against armoured units, which mirages aren't. Karax's air is capable of competing with the best of them, in spite of how limited it is, mirages are insanely tanky, more so with the repair beam, even more so with a support carrier repair beam too. And nothing needs saying about carriers, they're beefy units with absurd dps. Pure air Karax is another setup I use with reasonably frequency, though it's rather more risky than air Vorazun because you either have mirages and nothing else to start with, or you've burned a huge number of minerals on going straight carrier. It can pay off very well if your team can carry you for a few waves, and your opponent isn't one that can (and is smart enough to) hard-counter you immediately.
Aside from that I just have a couple of tips. Firstly, use your ability whenever you can! I noted you were hesitant in the last video with Vorazun's vortex, and today with Karax's giant laser of doom. Those t3 abilities, used right, will outright wipe out an enemy wave, so you should use them pretty much whenever their cooldown is up to get the most advantage from them. The vortex is best used in support of the ally with the most splash damage, so someone who has loads of colossi, archons, banelings, whatever, it's beautiful to watch a whole wave disappear in a few shots. The death beam should just be used in any tough wave your team is struggling with, since it'll kill pretty much any wave on its own.
And secondly, upgrades! Once you've reached a reasonable number of units, it becomes more cost effective to upgrade than to build more. Partly because the cost:damage ratio is good, and partly because only a finite number of units can be attacking at once (especially true with melee) so you want them as strong as possible. Protoss suffer a bit from very expensive upgrades, but Karax for instance has very little use for shield upgrades and can more or less ignore those until the very end.
Regarding your specific question to a solution against those deimos vikings though, mass mirages. But to take on the question in a more generalist sense, you hit on one of the solutions, which is simply don't play their game. Some commanders just don't have the capability to compete against vikings in the air (or you just didn't use the right build for it), so they should just not bother, and instead keep a heavy anti-armoured ground presence. It's almost comedic to see vikings land in the face of a full row of immortals. Just like with your mirages, another solution is to mass cheap, small, non-armoured air units and just bring them down with weight in numbers, the only requirement here is to make sure your ground presence is strong enough to at least distract the widow mines (H&H's only source of anti-air splash damage).
As someone who is never mad when he randoms Karax, I approve of this statement
@pakman184 Top five? Let's see, #1 is definitely Zagara, she is completely unbeatable once she gets going. Aberrations are completely overpowered and pretty much uncounterable. They can't hit air units, but Zagara also has top notch air clearing power. She's merely adequate early game, but her early game units are easily good enough to drag the fight out longer. Also, she gets free units!
#2 I would say Dehaka, as he's all but unbeatable once he gets going too, once you build to a certain number of creeper hosts with a good beefy tanking force in front. He's a lot more expensive and time consuming to reach that stage, but his early units are also better. Basically your objective is to reach the stage where your opponent is unable to reach your creeper hosts before your ally's wave arrives, when you hit that stage your opponent is screwed unless he can do something fast, because your creeper host swarm is only going to get bigger.
After that things are a lot more even, nobody else has such a reliable "I-win" button. #3 and #4 go to Abathur and Vorazun, in no particular order. Both of them have an excellent all-round roster, complete with air and ground units to suit every role. They basically have no glaring weakness, no single hard counter to everything they do well, and no gaps in their capability.
I'd argue those four can be fairly objectively said to be the best four commanders, but Zagara is the only one I get an impending sense of doom from when I encounter someone playing her. #5 is a tricky pick, I'm torn between Karax and Fenix... but I think Karax edges ahead for his stronger air presence late game. Both are very similar on the ground, zealot/adept, immortal, colossus being their core, but in the air mirages are simply better than scouts, armoured air units have too many counters, and the scout's anti-armour weapons are simultaneously bad against the typically light front line flyers they encounter. Karax also has the death star laser, which will outright win you the game used at the right moment.
Also, you didn't ask, but I figured I'd give my opinion on the *worst* commanders too. Those being Swann and Tychus. Tychus is pretty much made of weaknesses, he's extremely vulnerable to massed units, he has no air presence at all, and he has to spend 700+ minerals to react every time the enemy throws a curveball. Swann is too one dimensional; his air presence is extremely weak and his ground units are *all* armoured with the exception of the hellbat, this leaves him incredibly easy to counter, as a single unit can frequently counter almost his entire roster. Also, Swann's t1 and t2 units are pretty barebones, he desperately needs t3 to compete against a lot of builds, which handicaps him terribly in the early game.
@@DarkFenix2k5 I agree with all of this, when I play Zagara I rush T3 because abberations are just too good, if they go air I mass Scourges to counter. Dehaka steamrolls over people if they don't know the typical Dehaka starts, and I definitely agree with Tycus being the weakest. If you end up countering your enemy you'll win for a long time, but you take 5 waves on average to respond to whatever your enemy is doing, while he's shifting his build to be from light to armored to back again, and don't forget about air and the bugs.
Crooked Sam is supposed to disable the detection on the target his charge is on, instead he's just undetectable even to a scan, the War Hound is supposed to be aa, but his aa doesn't fire reliably so you have to use Vega (who is really strong actually) But no matter what you can outmass Tycus typically. I watched a Fenix go Arbiter and mass carriers vs a Tycus and won, the only thing he's got going for him is that every unit is Heroic, meaning that they can't be devoured by Dehaka or mind controlled... But they're just too expensive, I'd argue that if Tycus was just a Terran Fenix he'd be much better
Good to hear about Tychus, he badly needed some price cuts, though I imagine it'll be a few more patches before they get it just right.
pakman184 choose Alarak, himself+supplicants+slayers+havoc can beat almost everything even with 3 gases rushed in early+mid game. For late game you have ascendants and robotic combo, but don’t go for pure voids or prism too early cuz they can be easily countered.
Viking are best AA. Counter them with other air unit is just a waste. However, viking will land if they dont have air target and the Annihilator are much stronger than those Viking. Best way to kill them is to force them to land.
they won't land when there are still colossi. And Incursus' goal was to kill the vikings without sacrificing his colossi
@@jand.4737 Yet, i dont understand why he went Colossus either. They are not very good VS Mechanical/Heroes. Wave 2 and 3 were Mechanical and Heroes Units. If he would have only Spam Sentinels, Annihilator and Energizer. He would have melt Wave 2 and 3 by him self and only leaving a few wraiths and the BC alive which Wave 1 can deal with easily with all the Hydras he had.
RenTed What? The stukov wave is hard countered by splash and bears nearly anything else.
@@RenTed. He was beating the wave he was facing every time and then dying to the Stukov wave. Not really any point to beating a wave if you cannot get any permanent damage in, so he needed a way to beat the Stukov wave so he could damage their base.
So, it may seem counter intuitive, but if you are willing to entirely forego air power, you can easily counter HNH vikings with dedicated anti-armor on ground
I always like to watch your videos related to Starcraft, keep up the good work my dood! :)
You propably figured it out, but just to be sure/for other people. Countering vikings as Karax:
"Never start a land war in asia." is a miltary saying.
In Direct Strike the saying should be "never start a air war with Horner, Raynor or Zagara" instead! Horner got super Vikings, Raynor got splash Vikings and Zagara got suicide air to just clean you up.
The lack of any ground/AA units is a big issues for Karrax. In Coop Karax usually just builds turrets in the right places, rather then any units. You can win some missions without having every built anything other then a probe! So just staying out of the air just does not work.
That being said, the Mirrages should be effective. The invulnerability does block most of the ability damage. And those vikings only deal 34 vs Armored, not a tag Phoenix variants have. But with mirrages, better check. Your colossi and carriers most certainly have armored.
And the mirrages might have cost on their side too, so you could maybe outspam them.
With other commanders it depends. A good counter to triggered invulnerabiltiy is high firerate or splash. It spreads the tagging around quickly.
Lift is either countered by being a massive unit or just having to many units to be out-lifted.
Artannis Phoenix might be able to beat Karax Mirrages. Artannis has double lift, high firerate and bonus damage vs light. You might have to turn off lifts, but otherwise it is a promising combination. It is mostly a price question and how much ground/air you can bring as you do not have to worry about Karax ground/air.
Zagara scourge are questionable. They rely on hitting quickly, to not be under fire. Invulnerable blocks that and high firerate kills them. So it is mostly a price question,
ironically enough i have a fun time spamming mirage against vikings as karax. immune to damage for a limited time allows you to out damage them easily if you have more mirage than their vikings
and they never switch to wraiths?
yo incursus could u make like a letsplay of the campaign ?? that would be so nice gawd
A big problem you were having is that your enemies had 3/3 while you had 0/1/0. By 15 minutes you should be fully upgraded.
Try mass ground that can nerf air and ground like hydras, stalkers, or marines
Damos do aoe on the ground that does not work
@@dilldowd8877 that was 7 months ago mate
reclamation in co-op destroys the controlled units when it expires iirc
Not in this game mode
to deal with a mass Deimos Viking spam, im going to guess use the annihilators to make them land, and have your team deal with contesting the skies...
Tychus' meelee outlaw has 2 lifes. the moment he would die the first time, he gets invulnerable and full health.
Mass Annihilators are probably your best solution. I usually don't use Annihilators much because i have to micro them in Coop game but in this Direct strike all are smart cast so mass Annihilators probably is the best for Karax to bust any heroes or epic units.
As a han and horner player, the Demios Vikings are stupid good, but they tend to prioritize air. So the Karax mirages that can tank them tends to gum up their AI.
The shielder unit for that commander can take control of enemy air, as well as the immortals having a single target power blast that can target air.
the blasts are always on cooldown and he actually uses the "shielder"
purifier sentries can mind control mechanical units; would that work on deimos Vikings?
Oh this was gooood. Thanks.
I would do wraiths or maybe phoenixs behind a ground line to lift them up ehile they are ground mode
As Karax? More annihilators. No, more. More than that. Even more.
If the vikings cannot shoot at up, they land - and become vulnerable to annihilator attacks.
against those damn vikings i would go mirage's with their passive to be invurneble for 1.4 s it is great against they also have alot of dmg.
"i dont know what the solution is"
maybe... weapon/armor ups?
The thing is Annihilator deals mostly spell damage which isn't upgradeable. Yes, they have their normal cannon as well, but it's their ability that was attacking flying Vikings. But yes, armour was lacking.
Wait, why is the reclamation not permanent and or kill the unit after taking it like nova?
Incursus if you put carriers I the VERY back, then they just eat up anything that stand in their way
You can mass control energizer to screw up deimos viking, much cheaper too.
Are you kidding? You have super Phoenixes!! Stop being crazy.
MORE STAR CRAFT TWOOOOOOOOOO ! ! ! ! ! i dont really care who u be but i want to see more
Sun tzu art of war: attack where the enemy is weak, make them attack where you are strong.
Mass dragoon spam seems to counter vikings fairly easily
R u going to play full release of Worbital on the 31st?
Says they wont damage the bunker yet anyways, so he goes for more gas. Then they literally damage the bunker after that. Haha
Mass widow mines with han and horner
There are no solutions to vikings as Karax, unfortunately. You just have to rely on your teammates for that one. Energizers CAN be used to mindcontrol them, but its a late game option and relies on lucky positioning. Beam just causes them to blink, so definitely not recommended. I dunno of any matchup thats as onesided as Karax vs HnH atm. Vikings counter absolutely everything you can build, which is one of the reasons I dont bother with Karax anymore.
Karax! A great commander, with Zealots that revive and immortals that destroy single targets whether air or ground, mirages that keep enemy anti air in place for an eternity and a half, carriers that repair, collossus that leave burning ground in it's wake. And then there's the laser, oh my word there's the laser.
Edit: if you made pheonix's vs Tycus I would have questioned your sanity XD
The solution to Demios Vikings is mixed aa, some ground and some air, or mass cheap air, as deminos have aoe ground but massive single target airial damage, making them spend time morphing makes them pretty awful
Do it! But please read some of the comments for improveing gameplay
Incursus: I need AA
also Incursus: doesn't place mirages
Me: excuse me what the frick
Annihliators!!!
i love how the defensive structures one shot the vikings you keep complaining about but you say they arent worth investing in
Mirages vs Vikings
Just use Raynor Vikings, they out stack Horner's as Raynor's have unreasonable aoe damage and are much cheaper per Viking
Not sure if you can change the commander mid game, but i assume no, so he can't make Vikings as a protoss, mate.
KingBenjai made a new mod called Tiny Weapons, do a review on it next forts episode.
Lets go more pls
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San can not be detect while invisable, his skill makes him invunerable not cloacked
yeet i want more
Can someone explain to me what the direct strike means exactly?
cant your sentries here just mind control the vikings? i played as this recently and just spammed immos and sentries against a bunch of mech and it was easy
Yes. However the mind control only lasts a couple seconds. Mind control is good to stun their wave for a couple seconds, but doesn't actually solve the problem.
@@Incursus so you can make about 2 sentries for every viking in terms of minerals. Paired with annihilators, you can make them damage each other for 4 seconds each, and damage boost your own units. Could that not work?
Mind control micro.
Which commander has the deimos viking?
Matt Horner and Mira, that 'duo' commander has the Deimos Vikings.
As karax you cant do much Afganistanie those biling as they arę bad against ground aa like hydras/stalekers etc
I have super tanky Phoenixes, what do I do about these heavy Vikings killing my Colossus? What?!?!?!?
Mirage lose to vikings
they are just normal Zealot, who can revive them selfs.
when you say bigger and stronger you are talking about fenixs Zealots.
What about honour guards?
How do you play this with the commanders?
Grazzxx if you haven’t figured it out yet, there’s a drop down option for ‘Commander Mode’ when you host a Direct Strike game.
How about forcing the vikings to land by not build air at all and so you can hit em with your ground?
But in any case this won't work if they get the bc's though so... who knows?
His main splash damage to contest the ground from the zerg is on stilts tall enough to count as air for the vikings.
First, keep up the good work
More Dehaka nonsense plz!
Gg cool you to cool
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Yaa
Vora corrsirs or what ever their called cloaked anti air air units
Apocolipcs
Usually... ZERG monsters
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