23 year old Biggie wrote Ready to Die..Just as important a 19 year old Rakim penned Paid In Full…2 classics by these young brothers that still stand the test of time!!
Absolutely. I wish he would have gone with a process of elimination line of questioning when it came to the ghostwriting as in maybe who do you think does write all their own stuff or do you think so and so writes all their lyrics.
@@CSpad Son. We are 20 years into the new millennium right now. They are definitely part of the new millennium. I wasn’t calling them New Emcees. Peace
23 was old back then compared to now... by 19, I had a prison bid, a son, and mad life experience. These kids now got it good outside of places like Chicago where they still trapped in that mentality we grew up in. I'm 35 now. Growing up in the 90s was different. And worse for the generation before me.
I know my heart, but the Bible says, "The heart is deceitful above of all things and desperately wicked" and a deceitful heart cannot diagnose a deceitful heart...
Pac was that dude. When I listen to his song they hit me hard. Brenda Got a baby made me feel sick to my stomach. Dear Mama always brings me to tears, Mr against the world makes me want to go against anybody. I love the fact that he is still relevant today 20 + years after his passing because he didn't write for his generation but for posterity
@@Shamgod777 That's your opinion. Cook's opinion is different and I bet he is more a lyricist than you are. For me it is how his music hit me. You don't like it, it's alright, I do and so do millions of people
I did notice joel singing on that last album and I enjoyed it. Crooked and Joel made my playlist so fast with that album. I was listening to that just last night. I got atleast 7 favorites from that and i enjoy the skits, but i also have favorite skits from that album that also made my playlist which i always listen to. 💥
WOW.. I just became even a bigger fan of Joell and Crook! We'll all be surprised if we found out what they've ghostwritten for others, and not just Hip-Hop 🔥🔥
Pac wrote from the soul, you didn't have to be a hard-core person to understand Pac. My parents passed when I was young and when hear Pain I think about my parents. That song spoke to me during my middle and high school years. Dear Mama was another song that takes me to a place man. Pac was our generation Marvin Gaye.
I don't know if there's further to this convo, but it would be interesting to hear Crook's and Joell's feelings/thoughts on their writings after releasing it to whomever. How do they feel about some of their lyrics blowing up, perhaps even more so than things they haven't given away? What is the experience like coming into contact with artists and, perhaps, their claims of greatness or otherwise notoriety when these guys know they've taken from their pen to get said acclaim (if there is such a scenario)? Is there a crisis of identity associated with the notion that another's voice or face is the only thing making something a hit when it was their lyrics that hit? I'm curious, because, for one, I could not take another's writing as part of my own career, even if as a singer, but also, where's the line to be drawn for creatives and crafting, especially if we value experiences? Are we more superficial than we say (I think that's a given, really, but with music as well?)? Either way, I'd love to hear their perspectives.
Speaking of being young and conveying feelings we all can relate to ..."Can we talk...for a minute?" Props to talented Tevin Campbell forever. It's not always about the writing, but the conveying of the emotions.
Homie Skeme From Inglewood Dope Artist. Wrote “Fancy” - Iggy. Huge record Bigger than his catalog. But at the end of the Day he Wrote it. It’s a lot of things that come with Being a huge artist.
It's all about marketing. Battle rappers are known for Battle rapping. So even if they make a mainstream hit, it may not be perceived as a hit apposed to a already mainstream artist making the same record. Drake
@@southsidesasso Because if they're already known and hot it's guaranteed to pop. While you're just hoping it pop 😆! That's a big difference. It's not a hit if you sing it, but it's definitely a hit if Drake sung it. See the difference
Hold up now.....if one of those mcs say was looking to come up and the other mc allowed one to write a verse for his new album while breaking off a check would that be cool.
I go back and forth with the ghostwriting shit. If I heard today Hov didn't write any of the shit I grew up on then I think I would feel a certain type of way. But at the end of the day it wouldn't fuck with my appreciation of the music. I still remember being in my late teens when someone showed me Rhymefests verse on Jesus Walks and it was the saame verse word for word and that exposed Ye using ghostwriters but I didn't care at all. I think the art is the most important thing. I do think it takes certain niggas out of conversations in terms of who is the best Emcee, etc. I fuck with Drake and he can rap, but niggas penning that much of your records makes you a great artist, but I can't say you're one of the best emcees ever. Best artists/rappers? Sure.
I see what you're saying and the art is the most important thing but at the same time, it's not their art but they're not creating it. Imagine how many people have the art form but they just can't present the way a Drake or someone else can.
I'm pretty sure jay wrote all of his early records/albums, which in my eyes solidified him as one of the greats, but to your point, Jay been doing this for like thirty yrs, with all his business ventures in sure he got lazy with writing along the way, but to me like I said he already solidified his pen, so to me he's still in the conversation of "best MC's" he's not my favorite but I say that to say, if you are new with a ghostwriter you are Definitely not in the best mc convo.
Ortiz brought up Al Green and his singing experiences. Al Green remade and sung Old Tunes that was already out already in the in the 50s and the 60s. I don't think he went through nothing personally (love life) for him to sing those love songs like that. 85% of his catalog is old classic songs that somebody else sung before him. He just added his own spice to it. And then he did church songs that people did already. If anything he should have made a song about that woman pouring hot grits on him. That song would have probably been a super classic.
Ghost writing could mean a lot of different things. From writing a couple bars to writing an entire song. Who knows what part of these songs these guys wrote for these different artists.
@@PardonMyPresence because not everyone is a great artist, have the right voice, etc. there is alot that goes into having a great song than just the words.
What I wouldn't give to be able to sit in on that part of the convo about ghost writing, for heavy rotation artists, big high rotation records, and writing for other genres and turn the cameras off. Those NDA's....I hope they don't last forever...
You know it's all fake and politics in the rap game even without NDA'S they will never tell us unless they have major beef or something, that is why I don't understand why some rappers love to mention it if you are not giving us the names and full story
@@lilmos100 Joell's been up front about it in the past. He's written for Dre, sent detox reference tracks. Bought a condo off those checks. It's not the artist they're scared of per say, could just as easily be the label footing the bill. Not trying to piss off certain people in the building, who knows...
@@Safandula I understand but why name Dre because he is known as producer just like Kanye it doesn't matter because the perception will not change but if you say I wrote for rappers in your top 5 you know what you are doing we saw the chaos it created with meek, drake and quinten miller. And I know the industry it's all politics, but I agree with the points you made.
I wonder if they written for my top 5 1. Jada 2. Busta 3. Dmx 4. 2pac 5. I can never settle.... so I leave open (biggie, styles p, sheek, method man, redman, mase, ll cool j, first album Camron, and such) I think my picks are all writing their own and others
Not MY top 5! But I bet that list looks similar to 1. Drake 2. Lil Weasel 3. Meek 4. The Fat Ricky Ross 5. 50 (yep, Fif stopped writing after that second album.)
KXng gives props to PAC and math instantly throws in the Big too😂 KXng is giving props to PAC towards the end once again and he casually disregards him 😂👎🏾💩
It’s a difference when you ghost write a hit and not just a song . Anybody can say or claim they wrote something but did the song make a impact or become an actual hit
Thank you bro, at least somebody is saying it yall swear these big artist really be writing all thi shit especially on these commercial hits and projects they push out, it takes a team to do this stuff😂
My top 5 is Nas, Method Man, Tech N9ne, Ras Kass & MF Doom.. I know damn well they didn't write for those guys lol, but hey maybe they're correct when it comes to other people's top 5's..
@@Mikejones-zg6xg I wanna hear either Jay Electronica or Nas on video admitting this, otherwise it didn't happen.. Maybe she meant Lil Nas X, cause Nasty Nas is already a talented writer/poet.. He don't need someone else to write for him.. Don't believe everything these journalists say..
@@anatorres-ym8ke no.. they cant. You know how hard it is to write hooks? All the top rappers get hooks from other rappers. Why you think that doesn't count as ghostwriting? Lol because they all get that for hooks
I remember wayne said: advanced my flow: and they must like dat: they like it so much they say they write dat. Barking at the dog 🐕 butt I don't bite back i ain't ( c.p.r ) I ain't their life back
I like seeing these big artists with math and just talking..the only thing that seems kind of weird is that crooked and Joell was hype on that one video after Royce was on here and now they both seem happy like nothing ever happened..I wonder what changed
There is a writer named Desmond child. As an artist, he did the have a good career. As a writer for other artist, he became a millionaire. Very famous writer.
I don’t think people realize how dope crooked and joell are lyrically
Facts
Real.
Nah niggaz know. If you AT LEAST 28, you better know!
Facts...ppl just don't like hip-hop anymore
@@Midwest_Jimmy Casual fans dont
23 year old Biggie wrote Ready to Die..Just as important a 19 year old Rakim penned Paid In Full…2 classics by these young brothers that still stand the test of time!!
Don’t forget Nas illmatic 19-21
Dudes were different back then. LL was 17 when Radio came out. Mobb Deep was in their early 20s with Infamous
Pac songs bro!!
@@damianalbertozapata2476 Pac lyrics were/are mediocre.
@@fruitpac Facts
I appreciate these lyricists Finally pulling back the curtain. Everyone Eats… rappers AND writers. 🙏🏾💪🏾💥
Depends who you have in your top 5 but i don't buy this for a second
This isn’t new Crooked has written for top industry acts for years if not decades
This is not far fetched. Reference tracks get shopped around everyday in the music industry. It’s a business.
@@peteyalyanak Give some names.
1)____
2)____
3)____
Not forever just 3
A true writer can channel anything to convey the message!!!!
Yes. Lyrical storytelling is key, reading books, magazines and knowing words gives you an edge vs. grabbing any two words that rhyme.
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Hoffa's line of questioning is top tier...He knows the right questions to ask 💯🔥
I was just thinking about that. His line of questioning shows no fear, no agenda like other interviewers. I love this pod.
Facts
Absolutely. I wish he would have gone with a process of elimination line of questioning when it came to the ghostwriting as in maybe who do you think does write all their own stuff or do you think so and so writes all their lyrics.
@@josephbattaglia6120 Truth is, there’s very few at the top who write ALL their lyrics. Maybe one or two hands of people
Private I Math on the case😂
Gotta Thank @MathHoffa and The Crew For This Last Month Of Great Interviews
i always been a fan of Joel Ortiz , dude just naturally talented and underrated idc what anyone says.
Big up for Crook for mentioning MC Abdul!!!
Thank you Math for shouting him out!
Crook’s Pen has always been elite level Since death row days respect, Joel nice also ✊🏾💯 salute Hoffa Gang
Shout out to Hoffa for inviting two of the nastiest emcees of the new millennium to his show! You killin ish, Math!!! 🔥
New millennium? They been around for 20 yrs. Lol
@@CSpad Son. We are 20 years into the new millennium right now. They are definitely part of the new millennium. I wasn’t calling them New Emcees. Peace
Much love to MC Abdul! That was really dope for shorty to get that shout out. He’s nice, too!
Let's go 🔥🙏🏽 Math killing the game with these introspective conversations.
Ghost writing always been a part of hip hop and always will be
Very true. Cube wrote boyz n the hood
23 was old back then compared to now... by 19, I had a prison bid, a son, and mad life experience. These kids now got it good outside of places like Chicago where they still trapped in that mentality we grew up in. I'm 35 now. Growing up in the 90s was different. And worse for the generation before me.
You sound like a goofy
Man I straight up love the content, conversations and the direction of this show..
I know my heart, but the Bible says, "The heart is deceitful above of all things and desperately wicked" and a deceitful heart cannot diagnose a deceitful heart...
This is why I call this show the best show that's on TH-cam right now because you can learn a lot from this
Love the show, but the release format Hoffa got is annoying as fuck to me 😂. But Im guessing it makes sense business wise idk.
Damn how cool it is for MC Abdul to get a shout out by these guys on this show. That's love right there.
Crooked is freaking monster … go to his death row days to now 20 years of just mind blowing verses and deep hard shit
Diary of a ghost writer..a best seller waiting to be published 🖋📚
That AI analogy was top tier!! Respect
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Pac was that dude. When I listen to his song they hit me hard. Brenda Got a baby made me feel sick to my stomach. Dear Mama always brings me to tears, Mr against the world makes me want to go against anybody. I love the fact that he is still relevant today 20 + years after his passing because he didn't write for his generation but for posterity
Just know PAC was not that dude lyrically before he died. He was a 2nd string MC. Don't rewrite history.
@@Shamgod777 stop
@@Shamgod777 That's your opinion. Cook's opinion is different and I bet he is more a lyricist than you are. For me it is how his music hit me. You don't like it, it's alright, I do and so do millions of people
Smile - Face and Pac is on that typa timing as well. Ironically, the song is called Smile, but I get sad whenever I listen to it.
@@Shamgod777 put the coke down bruh
I did notice joel singing on that last album and I enjoyed it. Crooked and Joel made my playlist so fast with that album. I was listening to that just last night. I got atleast 7 favorites from that and i enjoy the skits, but i also have favorite skits from that album that also made my playlist which i always listen to. 💥
WOW.. I just became even a bigger fan of Joell and Crook! We'll all be surprised if we found out what they've ghostwritten for others, and not just Hip-Hop 🔥🔥
Mostly for Dr.Dre, Drake, Kanye and Diddy
I wouldn't be surprised if Jay Z was one of them.. he's used Lupe Fiasco to GW songs on the Black Album.
@@thehandleisuseless nah he’s not talking about them lol you don’t want him to really say who he talkin about
@@TonyBambino that's a lie 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
@@thehandleisuseless Niggas that are known to have writers
Sometimes it's not what is said but the person that says it that makes it powerful
Pac wrote from the soul, you didn't have to be a hard-core person to understand Pac. My parents passed when I was young and when hear Pain I think about my parents. That song spoke to me during my middle and high school years. Dear Mama was another song that takes me to a place man. Pac was our generation Marvin Gaye.
Goat
I don't know if there's further to this convo, but it would be interesting to hear Crook's and Joell's feelings/thoughts on their writings after releasing it to whomever.
How do they feel about some of their lyrics blowing up, perhaps even more so than things they haven't given away?
What is the experience like coming into contact with artists and, perhaps, their claims of greatness or otherwise notoriety when these guys know they've taken from their pen to get said acclaim (if there is such a scenario)?
Is there a crisis of identity associated with the notion that another's voice or face is the only thing making something a hit when it was their lyrics that hit?
I'm curious, because, for one, I could not take another's writing as part of my own career, even if as a singer, but also, where's the line to be drawn for creatives and crafting, especially if we value experiences?
Are we more superficial than we say (I think that's a given, really, but with music as well?)?
Either way, I'd love to hear their perspectives.
“MY ART FORM IS THE MOST COMPLEX” 🔥🔥🔥🔥 #PHANTOM 🎭
Life after death was written by a 23 year old!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥that’s Ridiculous
I was born in 94. Slaughterhouse is my favorite rap group of all time. House Rules was just 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Me too bro 94 babies
I enjoy every clip out out on this cast!! Its all informative and fire!!!
Good episode. Deep. Respect Hoffa. You on a roll.
Like a raw paper doobie!!!!
I'm waiting for the conversation about royce on the show.
Speaking of being young and conveying feelings we all can relate to ..."Can we talk...for a minute?" Props to talented Tevin Campbell forever. It's not always about the writing, but the conveying of the emotions.
Homie Skeme From Inglewood Dope Artist. Wrote “Fancy” - Iggy. Huge record Bigger than his catalog. But at the end of the Day he Wrote it. It’s a lot of things that come with Being a huge artist.
These 2 are so important in hip hop and the music game for cats like me man. Please keep it coming man Harbor City up my ninjas shits nockin
" Whoever supposedly makin me hits, but ain't got no hits, sound like they need me." - Drake
Daylyt writes for Drake and we all know battle rappers cant make hits...for themselves
@@anatorres-ym8ke what did he write ? Drake wrote for others too.
It's all about marketing. Battle rappers are known for Battle rapping. So even if they make a mainstream hit, it may not be perceived as a hit apposed to a already mainstream artist making the same record. Drake
@@1CHOZN7 Yeah but as an artist why would you give your best songs away? That's the part I don't understand.
@@southsidesasso Because if they're already known and hot it's guaranteed to pop. While you're just hoping it pop 😆! That's a big difference. It's not a hit if you sing it, but it's definitely a hit if Drake sung it. See the difference
3:51 might be the biggest thing in hip hop that some OGs wont get but ,Hoffa hit the nail on the nose .
Math never gets the info or names that he want to hear 😂😂 much respect to all of those guest who never drop names (even though Math begs for it) 🤣
Fuck getting sued over a NDA over ghost writing tho 😂
Crooked I & Joel Ortiz are two of the coldest brothers. Let’s give them their flowers. Like this comment for them 💐
Big, Jay, Nas, EM, and Jadakiss. Yeah I’m sure he’s not talking about my top five 😂😂😂
Hold up now.....if one of those mcs say was looking to come up and the other mc allowed one to write a verse for his new album while breaking off a check would that be cool.
Wale has wrote for Nas!
@@user-tk7rl6hw6c what?
@@user-tk7rl6hw6c please stop lying lol
@@user-tk7rl6hw6c that’s 🧢.
Yoooooo you got crooked and Joel on here.... Big Salute Math. Big F.....ng Salute my G!!!
Let's hurry up and get to the Elephant in the Room. Joe&5/9
This THE best show on yt no cap, much love from naptown
Rest in peace Tupac Biggie Small condolence to the family your soul live on greatest of all time
Fuck both of em.
Math Hoffa ask the best questions.
I go back and forth with the ghostwriting shit. If I heard today Hov didn't write any of the shit I grew up on then I think I would feel a certain type of way. But at the end of the day it wouldn't fuck with my appreciation of the music. I still remember being in my late teens when someone showed me Rhymefests verse on Jesus Walks and it was the saame verse word for word and that exposed Ye using ghostwriters but I didn't care at all. I think the art is the most important thing. I do think it takes certain niggas out of conversations in terms of who is the best Emcee, etc. I fuck with Drake and he can rap, but niggas penning that much of your records makes you a great artist, but I can't say you're one of the best emcees ever. Best artists/rappers? Sure.
Exactly bcuz rymefest could not convey that record like ye nutty ass lol
I see what you're saying and the art is the most important thing but at the same time, it's not their art but they're not creating it. Imagine how many people have the art form but they just can't present the way a Drake or someone else can.
Every rapper gets help sometimes, even Jay Z.
I'm pretty sure jay wrote all of his early records/albums, which in my eyes solidified him as one of the greats, but to your point, Jay been doing this for like thirty yrs, with all his business ventures in sure he got lazy with writing along the way, but to me like I said he already solidified his pen, so to me he's still in the conversation of "best MC's" he's not my favorite but I say that to say, if you are new with a ghostwriter you are Definitely not in the best mc convo.
U know Jay wrote still Dre for dre and snoop?
Do you my brother congratulations for everything that you've been doing you deserve everything that you have
Joell Ortiz wrote obsessed for Mariah Carey!!!🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭
Everybody usually that they write for ends up having a lot of fans and everything loving the music
Is Joell saying that “Brendas got a baby” was ghostwritten for 2Pac ?!?!
Ortiz brought up Al Green and his singing experiences. Al Green remade and sung Old Tunes that was already out already in the in the 50s and the 60s. I don't think he went through nothing personally (love life) for him to sing those love songs like that. 85% of his catalog is old classic songs that somebody else sung before him. He just added his own spice to it. And then he did church songs that people did already. If anything he should have made a song about that woman pouring hot grits on him. That song would have probably been a super classic.
Just go ahead and say Y’all wrote for Drake!!! 🤣🤣
Always amazing content homie, we rocking wit u down south Peace! ✊🏾💯
Math fishing for answers be hilarious... hahahahah "I see what you did there...!"
Good shit Hoffa interviewing my guys
Ghost face .man that song fucks me up every time I hear it. Got dam
Hands down this was my personal favorite......explained a lot 👌
Ghost writing could mean a lot of different things. From writing a couple bars to writing an entire song. Who knows what part of these songs these guys wrote for these different artists.
Well it can only be interscope or shady but Royce did it too. What I don't understand is why they can't write their own songs???
Lol exactly nobody ever clarifies that part part
@@PardonMyPresence LMAO!
@@PardonMyPresence because not everyone is a great artist, have the right voice, etc. there is alot that goes into having a great song than just the words.
yea they should either be more specific about what they wrote, or keep it to themselves
Ghostwriting is probably the thing that most directly translates from music to selling drugs.
Ghost writing is a grey area. You can make claims. No one can dispute
Exactly they need to drop names or keep it to themselves
Math "tank" Hoffa singing 😂😂😂😂
Wish Esso and Hynaken were in the building to stand on that “money talk” they was kickin when Royce was there
Yeah exactly, where they at? Esso a str8 up coward for this
Facts
I'm proud of dis nih Hoffa for actually trying to be professional
What I wouldn't give to be able to sit in on that part of the convo about ghost writing, for heavy rotation artists, big high rotation records, and writing for other genres and turn the cameras off. Those NDA's....I hope they don't last forever...
You know it's all fake and politics in the rap game even without NDA'S they will never tell us unless they have major beef or something, that is why I don't understand why some rappers love to mention it if you are not giving us the names and full story
@@lilmos100 Joell's been up front about it in the past. He's written for Dre, sent detox reference tracks. Bought a condo off those checks. It's not the artist they're scared of per say, could just as easily be the label footing the bill. Not trying to piss off certain people in the building, who knows...
@@Safandula I understand but why name Dre because he is known as producer just like Kanye it doesn't matter because the perception will not change but if you say I wrote for rappers in your top 5 you know what you are doing we saw the chaos it created with meek, drake and quinten miller. And I know the industry it's all politics, but I agree with the points you made.
No matter the age it’s almost always relatable
People forget how long these dudes been around. And, they still underrated!!
I wonder if they written for my top 5
1. Jada
2. Busta
3. Dmx
4. 2pac
5. I can never settle.... so I leave open (biggie, styles p, sheek, method man, redman, mase, ll cool j, first album Camron, and such)
I think my picks are all writing their own and others
Stop
Ya top 5 super rappers
Nah, they mean Drake. Both have ghostwritten for him
Not MY top 5! But I bet that list looks similar to 1. Drake
2. Lil Weasel
3. Meek
4. The Fat Ricky Ross
5. 50 (yep, Fif stopped writing after that second album.)
He went from top 5 to top 12
Where is Esso at? He had the most smoke for these dudes and he's not there for the interview?
KXng gives props to PAC and math instantly throws in the Big too😂 KXng is giving props to PAC towards the end once again and he casually disregards him 😂👎🏾💩
what's wrong with that? That is who he gravitates to more.
They always throws big name in there everything pac is mention.
I don’t believe it can’t make a hit for ya self but can make a hit for someone else
It’s a difference when you ghost write a hit and not just a song . Anybody can say or claim they wrote something but did the song make a impact or become an actual hit
Doesn’t matter you still get paid either way
Nigga it don’t matter if you wrote for somebody that rapper is lame don’t matter 😂😂😂😂😂 foh
@@lochofmceo It's not about the money when we talking lyrics
@@tjali563 exactly he missed my point
@@dloftan5539 To me you was saying if they didn’t make a hit record that it didn’t matter if they wrote it
Oppression, Depression, and Rejection has no age requirement.
Hoffa needs to interview Double O ask Treach and Redman about Big Bra!
DOWNTOWN NEWARK!!
What's it called when the ghostwriter got a ghostwriter? 🤔
Thank you bro, at least somebody is saying it yall swear these big artist really be writing all thi shit especially on these commercial hits and projects they push out, it takes a team to do this stuff😂
These niggas be like "Jay, u should change this ONE word, its offensive"
Jay-Z: "Aight"
These niggas: "We wrote all Jay's bars, and ya whole top 5!"
No that’s not what they be doin you’re a fan you literally proving they point negga
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HERE WE GOOOOOOO - WIT THE CODE TALK!!!!!
My top 5 is Nas, Method Man, Tech N9ne, Ras Kass & MF Doom.. I know damn well they didn't write for those guys lol, but hey maybe they're correct when it comes to other people's top 5's..
Jay electronica wrote for nas
@@Mikejones-zg6xg Prove it
@@heelspawn8023 look up ( dream Hampton ) they said they saw it with their own eyes.. it's not on TH-cam you have to Google it
@@heelspawn8023 he wrote queens get the money ' dats just one song he wrote for nas
@@Mikejones-zg6xg I wanna hear either Jay Electronica or Nas on video admitting this, otherwise it didn't happen.. Maybe she meant Lil Nas X, cause Nasty Nas is already a talented writer/poet.. He don't need someone else to write for him.. Don't believe everything these journalists say..
Can't wait for you to drop this gem in entirety... HOFFA GANG 💯
Fans dont understand that the best lyricists in the world cant write a hit for shit
True
they can write hits....for other ppl
@@anatorres-ym8ke no.. they cant. You know how hard it is to write hooks? All the top rappers get hooks from other rappers. Why you think that doesn't count as ghostwriting? Lol because they all get that for hooks
@@DesignzRUs you're correct, even jay z got a hook from jarule
@Blackst4lin im speaking facts
Math what is the song you sound like Tank on? I gotta check that out broski
Crook no you havent wrote for no top 5 and if you did you wrote the chorus, Chill!!!
J is talking about Pop and etc... Once your pen is fire, you can dumb it down, and are connected you get those opportunities.
At this point I’m getting tired of rappers saying they ghost written for top rappers when they don’t say any names.
NDA
No lie, I let a couple of clips pile up 2-3 days n just binge watch this show 😅
Yo Math what is that you're mixing with the Simply Lemonade?
If you’re pen 🖊 is vicious you’ll always get a check and have value! 🔥
Yeah when I really started writing about life and was going through more stuff I was like 18, 19
I remember wayne said: advanced my flow: and they must like dat: they like it so much they say they write dat. Barking at the dog 🐕 butt I don't bite back i ain't ( c.p.r ) I ain't their life back
“Not everything I pen is Hiphop”
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Respect to the TANK reference! Milwaukee stand up!
People ghostwriting for Jay, Hov goes to the studio and sits eyes closed for 15mins and says yeah I got the verse ready
Joell was trying to tell math he wrote old town road for lil nas x lmao
YEA!!!! AINT NOTHIN WRONG WIT SINGIN FACTS!!!! MATH DO YO THANG BRUH!!!!💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥💜💜💜💜
Ghostface captured it all in one song. I called my brother soon as I saw that video. He was already calling me.
I like seeing these big artists with math and just talking..the only thing that seems kind of weird is that crooked and Joell was hype on that one video after Royce was on here and now they both seem happy like nothing ever happened..I wonder what changed
Difference from heat of the moment & then having time to compose yourself for this interview.
Math charm crazy!!!! That’s NYB?
There is a writer named Desmond child. As an artist, he did the have a good career. As a writer for other artist, he became a millionaire. Very famous writer.
MC Abdul shout-out on the best Pod?!?! 🇵🇸 ❤