Why Former Bethelite, Elder Leaves Jehovah's Witnesses Classics

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  • @TheFarmhouseMom
    @TheFarmhouseMom ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I'm telling you this was THE video that sealed the deal for me. I watched it 7 years ago and it made me feel like I was not crazy, that it was ok to want to be a normal person. My life has been so full ever since.

    • @Ava2969ny
      @Ava2969ny ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @TheFarmhouseMom -- how long were you involved in the org before leaving? Do you still have family members in?

    • @TheFarmhouseMom
      @TheFarmhouseMom ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Ava2969ny 40 years…my great grandma was a JW so most of my immediate and extended family are still in.

    • @melyndaduh3501
      @melyndaduh3501 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I cannot believe the pure arrogance of the WTBTS in repeatedly blaming the low level brothers and sisters for incorrect scriptural interpretations. John 8:44

  • @petertocher6845
    @petertocher6845 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Thanks JT, I hadn't seen this before.
    In my case it was the shock of learning about the UN affiliation. The hypocrisy and secrecy was mind-blowing. Naturally, I set off to find out what else was hidden by The Watchtower.
    An old boss of mine once told me, "You can have implicit trust in your staff but never forget to check regularly that your trust isn't misplaced".

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Glad you enjoyed it

    • @vaevictis4668
      @vaevictis4668 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you.

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ExJWCriticalThinkerJesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's or satan sent all of you to preach about the JW's????????

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's or satan sent all of you to preach about the JW's????????

    • @compositioncompilation
      @compositioncompilation ปีที่แล้ว

      You wouldn't be able to fulfill prophecy in having the mark of the wild beast unless they had joined the UN as NGO,s.
      They do not worship the image of the wild beast in having a library card, do they ,??
      Who do ?
      Those who veto and vote and carry out the bidding of the member nations of the UN .Afghanistan Serbia..Syria..a nations that gave recently had to comply with the veto ..against humanitarian corridors where people are in hardship.. in need of medical aid, food.. water etc
      Jehovahs Witnesses are actively participating in fulfillment of bible prophecy ..and it's not merely in the preaching work.
      See rev 11:6

  • @InfiniteGoddess
    @InfiniteGoddess ปีที่แล้ว +36

    My father went to prison for his neutrality. He was given a 5 year sentence, served 13 months. The amount of pressure at that time was unbelievable. It was a slap in the face when the opinions changed.

  • @joycelemonier4132
    @joycelemonier4132 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I got baptized in 1962, pioneered and served where the need was greater. It was because “many living today will never die, hints of important 1975. I left in 1982. I’m so glad I did. I still have family members that are active witnesses. I didn’t watch any ExJw videos. I just left and decided for myself how I want to live because living as a JW was not what I expected. I left the organization 1982. I am so glad because I am 78 and have absolutely no regrets. I have (4) successful children, educated and a good heart. I got them out before they could’ve been undocumented by this organization. I’m glad witnesses have your site and others.Thank you for confirming what I already think in a calm and reasonably logically. When I lived in NY I went to Brooklyn Heights congregation.

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Very powerful personal exp thx for sharing

    • @naominyarku674
      @naominyarku674 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ​@@ExJWCriticalThinkeryou wake me up. Thanks and greetings from Monrovia Liberia

    • @DietlindeJanssen
      @DietlindeJanssen ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You are a living history book ..with so many memories! Such an encouraging post!!! Thank you!

    • @sparklecanada0112
      @sparklecanada0112 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      👏👏👌🏼👍👍💕🌹🤝🏻

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your left to which way between this 2 ??????? Mathew 7:13-14, and Jesus christ sent all of you to preach about the JW's or satan the devil sent all of you to preach about the JW's???????

  • @adrianrichards55
    @adrianrichards55 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Wonderful classic. Now a pimo (family still in). 65 years of our lives spent in this cult but now fully awake because of the ever changing teachings of men and the corrupt cover up of decades of child abuse. Had been an elder for many years but recently deleted myself. My wife and I had pioneered, special pioneered, been in the circuit work and now in our early 80’s and enjoying our freedom. Never to late to break free!!! Keep up your good work.

    • @Agnesh_893
      @Agnesh_893 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ❤❤❤👏🤝👍

  • @adonai7187
    @adonai7187 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "What you see are human opinions that have been elevated to divine status." JT.

  • @lori4971
    @lori4971 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Love a good rerun. Never gets old. Thanks JT and Lady Cee

    • @sparklecanada0112
      @sparklecanada0112 ปีที่แล้ว

      @lori4971.
      Rerun of JT and Lady Cee🎆🎉👍👍👌🏼
      Rerun of WT Org/JW videos...⚠️⚠️🤚🤚🚫😣👎🏻👎🏻☠💀🙈🙉⚰😳🤡🤐

  • @lauraadam3230
    @lauraadam3230 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My husband was a third generation wittiness and he became awake twenty years ago and have never been happier.thanks j t for the discourse.

  • @EfrainRiveraJunior
    @EfrainRiveraJunior ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I found this video during my waking up period.

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 ปีที่แล้ว

      Waking up to which way between this 2 ?????Mathew 7:13-14.

    • @EfrainRiveraJunior
      @EfrainRiveraJunior ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vusimngomezulu2500 - Skipped your medications again, did you?

    • @thedon151
      @thedon151 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Run and never look back

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thedon151 😂🤣😅

    • @daleprice8111
      @daleprice8111 ปีที่แล้ว

      I LIAR HAS TO KEEP CHANGING WHAT THEY SAY. BECAUSE THE WHOLE TRUTH EXPOSE LIES . WATCHTOWER LIES AND CALL IT NEW LIGHT TO CHANGE THIER LIES .

  • @elizabethroblyn1392
    @elizabethroblyn1392 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This Classic I missed. Thanks for bringing it back. I am shaking. These people played with and continue to play with people's lives. I'm glad you both were witness to those things so you can bring them all to us.
    Bring back some Classics

  • @Godly-Beard
    @Godly-Beard ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This video was the nail in the coffin that woke me up years ago, its good you guys put up the classic video for others who might have never seen it.

  • @SanDiegoPIMO
    @SanDiegoPIMO ปีที่แล้ว +25

    So Narcissistic. Blaming the victim because of the information that was given to the brothers and sisters facing disfellowshipping, or jail. This was one of the videos months ago when I first found your channel. This made me start thinking and explained the reason why the organization doesn't want its member to do the research (except on their website).
    Looking forward to more videos.

  • @fitcwebb
    @fitcwebb ปีที่แล้ว +40

    This was one of the first videos that I stumbled upon about 5 years ago. It really hit home...."humans elevating their opinions to divine status". So true and very powerful once you realize this

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It hurts though to realize you got played

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's or satan sent all of you to preach about the JW's????????

    • @ShoNuffSoulBro1
      @ShoNuffSoulBro1 ปีที่แล้ว

      MiLLioNs Scammed, Swindled, Suckered, Shysted, Hoodwinked, Bamboozled, Sold a bill of goods, Mislead, Had the wool pulled over their eyes, Robbed, Tricked, Duped, Swindled, Fooled, Cheated, Bluffed, Misguided, Led astray and Deceived.

    • @rhondahart2416
      @rhondahart2416 ปีที่แล้ว

      honey if you would learn to proofread your stuff, you can see no one understands what you are asking because your question doesn't make any sense. people like j.t. and lady cee are on the net because they realized they were not in the truth. this is a high control group that has publications because their belief is not in the bible. this is not rocket science all you need to do is listen to them.

    • @annapaulal.h.1393
      @annapaulal.h.1393 ปีที่แล้ว

  • @realliving7340
    @realliving7340 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This was one of the first videos I saw when I was waking up! Will forever be grateful to both of you❤

  • @DietlindeJanssen
    @DietlindeJanssen ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I saw this video under the pandemic. .helped me and my daughter to wake up! ❤ Love you so dearly both of you! We have seen all your videos! ❤❤ Thank you Lady Cee and husbond!

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Getting that confirmation is so important to letting all of us know we were not going crazy in what we saw and heard
      To think differently than the wt writers was fearful

    • @DietlindeJanssen
      @DietlindeJanssen ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ExJWCriticalThinker please continue with your videos!! We are living in a very special time ..seeing the decline . And think allways ...that many many people are so unhappy ..trapped and captive! We need YOU both! Give all our love to Daniel too! Thank you so much! ♥️♥️

  • @randtech2136
    @randtech2136 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    My first "apostate" video I gave myself permission to watch 4 years ago after reading Crisis of Conscience...will always have a special place in my heart ❤ I too left for doctrinal reasons 🙏
    Feb 2017 Watchtower Study Edition: "Who is Leading God's People Today" - "The Governing Body is neither INSPIRED nor infallible so may err in doctrine and organizational direction."
    Penny dropping moment.

  • @andracadicecrawford4256
    @andracadicecrawford4256 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This video also help me...confirm all my thoughts were absolutely correct!!! Looove you two soooo much! Thank you both.

  • @Dina52328
    @Dina52328 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I had not watched this video before. Thank you for showing it again. When the GB talks about the brothers who have previously been in prison and those who are currently in prison, they are highly praised for their unwavering loyalty to Jehovah, especially those imprisoned in Russia. It is reported the brothers in Russia get abused, beaten, threatened by the guards, etc . . . However, the GB in their broadcasts, seem pleased that the brothers endure all this, with joy in their hearts, just like the Apostles did when they were imprisoned. The GB never fails to cherry pick a scripture to back this up. So much suffering has been brought to the families of these men by this cruel JW organization. Glad I woke up

  • @greatdayn4651
    @greatdayn4651 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Fantastic!!! So eloquently presented. Thank you for sharing.

  • @pamelaclark6694
    @pamelaclark6694 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    JT, you are one of THE BEST speakers I have ever heard. You keep the listener captivated…Sincerely!! Then and now.
    Love y’all’s vids!!

  • @srichards8153
    @srichards8153 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I remember every so often I would stop and think to myself "how old are they now?". Because the announced ones in my congregation would die, I would anticipate that it could be any day now. What a disappointment when 1975 passed, and I stuck it out another decade and then left in 1985.
    Very interesting video. Thank you

  • @dantoinettetaylor1663
    @dantoinettetaylor1663 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you for sharing this Classic. I’m just so intrigued by your story JT. It truly touched me and opened my eyes to the deceitfulness of the Watchtower. I left for doctrinal reasons too finally hopping off the fence in 2020 after watching a Governing Body presentation about the studios being built in Ramapo in New York. They claimed that although it would take about 6 years to be completed that we should not lose our sense of urgency. Right away I saw that this was a scheme especially when they claimed that the studios would be needed to teach others after Armageddon. This sounded absolutely crazy to me. I was done! I just couldn’t preach to people something that I no longer believed. Blessings to you and Lady C. ❤

  • @sibusisoyono5518
    @sibusisoyono5518 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just a year before I woke up,there's a scripture(2 Corinthians 3:17.." where the spirit of the Lord is ,there is freedom..") that kept ringing in my head, and I felt that there is no freedom of thought in the organisation, I felt very uneasy and constrained. I also started noticing how hypocritical JW's generally are.Then Covid happened then I slowly started losing interest, this is one of the videos that filled those missing gaps,when you just know something is off but can't put a finger on it.I was 30 when i started waking up and having just graduated with a diploma in Journalism(critical thinking is very much encouraged in that field of study,though it may seem otherwise.Thank you so much Lady C and JT. Keep on keeping on. Your contribution means a lot.

    • @sibusisoyono5518
      @sibusisoyono5518 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And luckily for me I dont have any family members that are left behind. My grrandparents and myself were the only jw's and they have both passed on and both were inactive for many years before they died.

  • @cindyharvell7021
    @cindyharvell7021 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My dad served 18 months in prison as a conscientious objector. And, I remember when the new light re:1914 came out. The look on his face was startling. We literally paused the family WT prep while he digested it. I was about 15 when the magazine came out. Crazy.

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wow!!!!
      Did he talk about this change and the impact on his life
      Or did he just go along to get along??

    • @alexcampbell3032
      @alexcampbell3032 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When did the magazine come out?
      What happened after you all digested it?

    • @cindyharvell7021
      @cindyharvell7021 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ExJWCriticalThinker the article was like in 1990 or 1992 (ish). I just remember how in shock he was with the study. I was genuinely concerned, as my dad was an elder and he looked almost betrayed. I couldn't quite understand it. But it definitely made me take notice, even at that age. Sadly, he must have just pushed it aside and went along with it.
      I think I should ask him, as he's been DF'd too for some years. In his late 70s though, I don't think he spends too much time thinking about it.

  • @ld87111
    @ld87111 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Great work, JT and Lady Cee. Your videos were so important to my waking up process and I was able to get my wife and kids out too! We thank you very much!! ❤

    • @sparklecanada0112
      @sparklecanada0112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @ld87111.
      You are blessed that you got your whole family out.👏🤚🤝🏻💕
      So many of us, aren't so fortunate.😔💔

    • @ld87111
      @ld87111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sparklecanada0112 thanks but I only got my wife and kids out. My parents and siblings are still fully brainwashed unfortunately.

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 ปีที่แล้ว

      Waking up to which way between this 2 ????????Mathew 7:13-14.

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@sparklecanada0112Aut to which way between this 2 ??????Mathew 7:13-14.

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ld87111Aut to which way between this 2 ????? Mathew 7:13-14,and please show me a proof from the Bible that all different churches including exjws apostate are not brainwashed.

  • @southcentral90044
    @southcentral90044 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Because you were an elder/bethelite; your post carry so much Weight! This was definitely one of my favorites!
    Absolutely, outstanding post! I wish more elders would do the same because it will wake up thousands!
    One of the biggest threats to the organization is fir insiders to expose the flaws!

  • @grammargoddessNYC
    @grammargoddessNYC ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ah yes! This is one that I found and I started watching all your videos!!! Excellent!! Thanks for this classic!! 👏🏾🏆

  • @rxa-z1124
    @rxa-z1124 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This video played a major role in my waking up. Thank you 🙏🏿

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Glad we could be a part of your Journey

    • @sibusisoyono5518
      @sibusisoyono5518 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here. I woke up without realizing I was waking up, thanks to this channel and a few others.

  • @michellem2042
    @michellem2042 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This channel has helped me more than you & lady C will ever know. Thank you. Found your channel late 2018. Keep up the valuable work that your both doing 😊

  • @jcolon68
    @jcolon68 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This was without a doubt and still is my favorite video from you guys!! I listen to this video every week!! Thank You!!

  • @howardboyd7764
    @howardboyd7764 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you Brother JT and Lady Cee.... thank you both for the "throwback" video. Brother JT you an't aged a bit man or seemingly gained a pound. Thank both of you for all that you do, saving one life on the fence at a time.....

  • @blondefro
    @blondefro ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love u two so much. Sending love from Richmond Va.

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You just down the road on 95 we got to give Yoruba shout next time we heading to NC
      is the tobacco restaurant still in Richmond

  • @fredlayuda3911
    @fredlayuda3911 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Thank you, you are “SAVING LIVES”, you are like the example of Yshua where you point out erroneous predictions of erroneous predictors ( False Prophets) and you teach to steer clear of those producing them, thank you for your awareness, knowledge, and good judgment, and it is to each of us that belongs the responsibility to verify our foundation or origin of understanding and learning, thank you, keep up the good work

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      All we can do is help each other

    • @kerrydwyer1879
      @kerrydwyer1879 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      All you are saying is heartbreaking.
      We are not supposed to obey men over Father and Yeshua.
      And no,I'm out...Like you JT,for lying doctrine ,false prophecy ,commands of men as doctrine,csa..
      And they said they are not inspired.
      In scriptures it's mentioned about ones who say...we can't understand the Bible,can you do it for us...
      Doesn't that mean big problems?
      You both take care..and thank you for these points...They may help many..Revelations 18:4..Psalms 146..Micah 7..😊

    • @kerrydwyer1879
      @kerrydwyer1879 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rutherford said no holy spirit; but angels talked to him...
      Is that not the same as Mohammed?
      Yeshu will sort it all out for Father and humanity and the planet& universe.

    • @annapaulal.h.1393
      @annapaulal.h.1393 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kerrydwyer1879 💚

  • @LDSimms-ne4df
    @LDSimms-ne4df ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This was the first video I watched from you guys! I learned more about JWs in this video than from the 19 yrs I was in. I was born in JW. Thanks, JT and Lady C, for all yall do in the ExJW community! 🫡

  • @grammargoddessNYC
    @grammargoddessNYC ปีที่แล้ว +10

    4:50 “organizational procedure” what the “society has in print” not what’s in the Bible. This was the part that stuck w me about this experience! I remember discussing topics w friends and everyone always ran to the watchtower FIRST. Never the Bible. A cult. That’s what this is. Plain & simple.

  • @toddhayes3506
    @toddhayes3506 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    OMG THANK YOU! GOD BLESS CRITICAL THINKER! YEEEEEEESSSSSSS! TRUTH!

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks and a shout out to MI in the house !!!!

    • @toddhayes3506
      @toddhayes3506 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ExJWCriticalThinker Always Love and Appreciation from Detroit 🎶 and Johannesburg South Africa... Blessed!

  • @ayotfreda5536
    @ayotfreda5536 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Its good to watch this again.

  • @barbaratucker6489
    @barbaratucker6489 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I just want to add a little story of one of my first experiences in realizing something was wrong with the religion. I was a young mother, took my little boy and his little friend from the hall out in service. I took a wrong turn/wrong street and got lost. Took awhile to get back to car group and they were all gone. Luckily I had my car. They didn't care. By their fruits you will know them.

    • @justinthyme5382
      @justinthyme5382 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And today you're no longer Lost. Hi from Perth Australia 💕

    • @noelharris8967
      @noelharris8967 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@justinthyme5382 ...g'day...greetings from Scarborough, WA...😅..

    • @vponce7997
      @vponce7997 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Now out of 8 million of them a few can be assholes but come on, this is what really did it for you? At least the op had a valid intellectual reason.

  • @Angry20Something
    @Angry20Something ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This video is super relevant and helpful.

  • @rebella5769
    @rebella5769 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This one was my absolute fave. It's so interesting I was looking all over for this vrry one the other day...thxs so much for replaying it.

  • @kittylove2975
    @kittylove2975 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent classic video‼️ It's going to have a strong impact.
    ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @joyo3890
    @joyo3890 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this video JT. These 3 things were ones that truly made me start digging deeper in the reasons why I “believed” what I did. Critical thinking became so important to me after nearly 50 years of believing I was part of a spirit led “religion”. I may not remember this correctly but I recall an elder saying shot before I left that the society has changed its stance on voting to be a conscience matter. Another red flag at that time!

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Those 3 things changed so many folks trajectory in this org

  • @EfrainRiveraJunior
    @EfrainRiveraJunior ปีที่แล้ว +22

    "Human opinion elevated to Divine Status."

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Why didn't we catch it sooner

    • @EfrainRiveraJunior
      @EfrainRiveraJunior ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ExJWCriticalThinker - I know, right? It was all about timing. Too and the Internet didn't arrive sooner.

  • @adrianjamesNEWS
    @adrianjamesNEWS ปีที่แล้ว +17

    JT and Lady Cee,
    Thank you both for the work that you do! Your channel was crucial in my waking up. I think you both provide your topics in a clear, concise, and mild manner that really gets the mental wheels turning.
    Though I'm fully out and awake now, I still watch all your videos because I find your topics so interesting and relevant. I think its safe to say your videos have longer self lives than literature written by "God's hand," LOL.
    Thanks again,
    Adrian

  • @EvelynnLandrum
    @EvelynnLandrum ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Always my favorite Ex-JW coming out story of all time! The generation teaching was the foundation that held the Jehovah's Witness belief system together! Time proved it all to be wrong! There was no good use after 1995.

  • @robertmardis2110
    @robertmardis2110 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    JT and Lady Cee.....you both are amazing people! You all have helped me tremendously in the waking up and leaving process....i want to thank you for all your continuous hard work helping individuals like me! Much love to you both!

  • @AnnC....
    @AnnC.... ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you Brother JT, and Sister Lady Cee

  • @drelowe7
    @drelowe7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yes we needed this

  • @xoxo20000
    @xoxo20000 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love your videos! I left the JW religion about 10 years ago and i forward these videos to different PIMOs and my disfellowshipped aunt. Great content

  • @steezyblu
    @steezyblu ปีที่แล้ว +8

    An oldie, but a goodie. This is literally the first XJW video I saw while waking up.

  • @reinaldofranco2966
    @reinaldofranco2966 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I have this video under my favorites 😅😅. I found you guys 7 years ago when I left. Man everything JT I kept saying I knew it!” 😂😂 because whenever k asked about these doctrines they would tell me your not being humble brother. Great video guys

  • @joshuatoledo8844
    @joshuatoledo8844 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Outstanding!
    Just one point using Critical thinking. The main point for religions to control other humans is: Whatever is in the book is coming from GOD.
    If we just cut the umbilical cord between God and the book, by using critical thinking we can investigate and find out how the “book” was created. From that point every teaching is base in other humans point of view.

  • @barbaratucker6489
    @barbaratucker6489 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thank you for talking about this with confidence, because the witnesses would be happy making us feel like were just bad and wrong for thinking different than WT authority. They put so much into 1914...even attributing many events in book of Revelations to that early time period. So they made a huge hole of misinformation that would take some real humility to admit. Probably easier to keep people believing most of it. I still believe the Bible (which they do get right so much of it) Just wish they allowed some critical thinking and had humility, then it would of been good. Glad you were an elder JT...and I sure do love Lady C also. Thx you two. Because of you I don't feel so alone.

    • @vusimngomezulu2500
      @vusimngomezulu2500 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesus sent all of you to preach about the JW's or satan sent all of you to preach about the JW's????????

    • @barbaratucker6489
      @barbaratucker6489 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know if you 'll like my answer, but the Bible is the truth (I believe) so much of what is taught from the Bible (of which JW's taught) is Biblical truth. So learning the Bible is vital (in my understanding) and then moving beyond that or going through that horrible wormhole of realizing what's right and what's wrong in "religions" ....moving forward seems appropriate. So If JW are wrong in some teachings where does that leave all the other Christian religions that are teaching wrong. Are they all from Satan? No... Wrong teachings are wrong, and right teachings are right. The details from that...I'll leave up to the individual trying to find God.

    • @annapaulal.h.1393
      @annapaulal.h.1393 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barbaratucker6489 💎🙏

  • @simplysondra9096
    @simplysondra9096 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great Video I am so glad I came across y”all channel I came out OUT of Darkness In February 2020 Yay 😀

  • @scotlandd
    @scotlandd ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I cant thank you two enough for giving me support in my thinking. When i realized i had been duped i was stunned for 3 months and its been 3 years now that ive been awake after 54 years of indoctrination. I still have 3 kids in and i hope they wake up. Im making videos now but i have you both to thank because you speak and think like me. I was a 3rd generation witness and a full-time pioneer and i walked away immediately when i realized. I feel much closer to my father in heaven and a much better Christian now.

    • @MervinJ-qg6ir
      @MervinJ-qg6ir ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Scotland Good For You

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      We know the feelings

    • @melyndaduh3501
      @melyndaduh3501 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That last sentence bears singing from the rooftops. 😊

    • @scotlandd
      @scotlandd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Samizon5 scotlandd

  • @Coral-lu5hi
    @Coral-lu5hi ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I lost my faith in Jehovah due to demonic slander, and some of the most vicious lies you can imagine could be told on a human. I left because i was felt Jehovah was not real because if he was real he would have vindicated me. However, something happened this morning that brought about a shift in my thinking. After listening to various youtube videos, podcasts such as surviving paradise, Jack Gray etc. I realized i was being vindicated. Sometimes we look for vindication as God allowing something to occur where people would see i was the victim of lies. However. I realized vindication is for me, not other people.

  • @GirlGeekLovesStampin
    @GirlGeekLovesStampin ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thanks so much for this classic! ❤

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks for listening

    • @toddhayes3506
      @toddhayes3506 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@ExJWCriticalThinkerOMG Thank You Family THANK YOU GOD BLESS YOU!

  • @beautyRest1
    @beautyRest1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This was great! I love your realistic, objective and approach. It’s good to hear your journey again!!

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So many of us felt those changes deep in our bones

    • @beautyRest1
      @beautyRest1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ExJWCriticalThinker yes Sir!

  • @donaldhill911
    @donaldhill911 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    JT You and your Wife Lady Cee told the Truth. May The TRUE GOD OF GODS AHAYAH BE WITH YOU AND OUR LORD AND SAVIOR YASHAYA BE WITH YOU AND YOUR WIFE! THANK YOU!

    • @KayKay-hr2xj
      @KayKay-hr2xj ปีที่แล้ว

      Shalawam. Glad you know The Most High name. Ancient Hebrew

  • @DonaldRobers
    @DonaldRobers ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the great show JT. I was raised in this cult and never got babized. My family and I our relationship is completely damaged by this cult.

    • @pocahontas4583
      @pocahontas4583 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would tell anyone to be very cautious of getting baptized. Because you’re actually dedicating yourself to the organization, more than God. I’ve seen people I grew up with never get baptized and they’re able to basically live both lives and still openly associate with the witnesses. But if you get baptized and fall away you’re shunned and can’t associate with anyone. I would tell my own kids not to do it until they are at least 18+

    • @DonaldRobers
      @DonaldRobers ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pocahontas4583 Because I didn't get babized I was run out of this cult.
      My jehovah's witness family and fellow Jehovah's lost patience with me and I was no longer welcome to the kingdom halls anymore. I did my research about the lies and cover ups of this cult and now I speak out against this unloving and uncaring lying organization and now I'm on every jehovah's witnesses crap list.
      Which is ok , because I will not live a lie.

  • @mcbrayerok
    @mcbrayerok ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "DIVINE STATUS"!! WOW!! HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!! THANKS!!!

  • @fourthgirl5028
    @fourthgirl5028 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oldie but goodie. Definitely supported my waking up.

  • @DY2784
    @DY2784 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loved this account the 1st time, and love it even more now…❤❤❤

  • @marciodp1003
    @marciodp1003 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    👉 Three good reasons!!! Thank you for this classic video... Grettings from Brazil 🇧🇷

  • @toddhayes3506
    @toddhayes3506 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Experience! Wisdom! TRUTH 💯

  • @juanreyes9824
    @juanreyes9824 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    JT How true are those words, I wish the sincere witnesses would listen to those words full of wisdom, everything would be different, thanks for your time and your sincerity I appreciated it

  • @Aquamayne100
    @Aquamayne100 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Yea that generation teaching is a massive wake up. Tbh I never really believed it as a young jw because I knew they've been wrong before.

  • @TheC.O.-VISIT
    @TheC.O.-VISIT ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This has always been and continues to be the modus operandi of the Society: blame the victims.

  • @toddthomson610
    @toddthomson610 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    100% why i left if you question one teaching you will look into others then your AWAKE

  • @michaelkashevarof9274
    @michaelkashevarof9274 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was a Bethelite 85'-88' and elder after returning home. My wake up took me getting df'd that took me away from the meeting to later come back. Took me a long time to wake up, after my 2nd dfing lol yep. 2 things woke me up, my second Judicial meeting and a C.O. visit that was talking to the friends about the over lapping generation, it wasn't what he said trying to explain it, it was how he said it... Was waiving his hand in the air and saying no big deal this new understanding, I could have fallen out of my seat, I was df'd at the time (not now reinstated and faded) I sat in the back and I looked around at the congregation and EVERYONE had this blank zombie like look on their faces, and I thought did they just hear what I heard? GB just blew off a 100 year teaching as if it was nothing. Dangled a carrot in front of millions of people for decades only to strip their hopes of never dying.

    • @ShoNuffSoulBro1
      @ShoNuffSoulBro1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That’s exactly how I felt ! ! Never been DFed or anything close, just faded. When I heard and saw the overlapping generations illustration in the Kingdom book my jaw hit the floor ! ! I suddenly felt like I had been punched in the head. I remember looking around in amazement at everyone else in the hall just going along and raising their hands to comment as if nothing was out of the ordinary, and thinking W T F ! !

  • @debbieworth7865
    @debbieworth7865 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you for sharing your experience. Even though we have left and are glad to out, at anytime there can still be a pulling in your soul, not necessarily to go back, but simply because it was what we knew and lived. These videos are so enlightening and continue to help feed the soul and spirit. God bless you both and please continue the good work!!!! Lots of CHRISTIAN Love, Debbie Worth

  • @maryowens3199
    @maryowens3199 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your best video ever! And, you look so nice in that beautiful white shirt and tie.

  • @adrianobrowne3110
    @adrianobrowne3110 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The overlapping generation that the watchtower taught that won't pass away is still in effect today because of what they said couple years ago. But the organization is silent about it, like they're sneaking away from it.

  • @NYouTubeFan4ever123
    @NYouTubeFan4ever123 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you so much for this message!

  • @ghiajohnson1547
    @ghiajohnson1547 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I discovered the entire ex-JW community on TH-cam, seven years after I left!

  • @exjwukmusicalescape9241
    @exjwukmusicalescape9241 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was a classic I came across early on thanks for the reminder, I remember you telling the story of the fear you initially had buying crisis of conscience, a classic series would be great 👍

  • @NoJediMindTrick
    @NoJediMindTrick ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Trust and believe....SO MANY IN THE ORGANIZATION DO QUESTION THE "TRUTH"! The problem is 1) some have positions of priorities and like the way it feels 2) families and marriages will be torn apart 3) it's a social club, just like going to church or the nightclub 4) they've aged and "this is all they have".
    All of the above is the saddest "way of life".

  • @StephenieEOraka
    @StephenieEOraka ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My heart bleds for all those young brothers and sisters whose lives have been ruined by going to jail, when alternative service was an option. Why will this JW Organisation lie like this? And they are so unapologetic in destroying lives and family.

  • @bevlower6793
    @bevlower6793 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for the trip down memory lane. I've been feeling pretty low thinking that NO ONE left the organization for "love of Jehovah" & sound Bible principles. My friend who stepped away at about the same time is talking like Jehovah is going to sweep the temple clean & gather up the weeds & burn them. I 'feel' (saw) the curtain ripped in two & the most holy exposed. heavy hearted thaxs'u.

  • @ashleegoodrich513
    @ashleegoodrich513 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for posting this classic video! There’s so much love in my heart for you all for sharing this information that gives us the strength to leave and heal from the organization.

  • @olitasamuel7620
    @olitasamuel7620 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love This l was feeling the same l way too , l wated CT under my cover!! THAT help me wake up!
    Thank you ❤

  • @day2day549
    @day2day549 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am not being a racist. I am speaking the truth.
    I learned so much about my history and how the political arena influences religion. Even Jehovah Witnesses.
    This is no joke. Nobody wants to talk about it. However, we are all affected.

  • @PL-tj5sd
    @PL-tj5sd ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oooooh, never been this early before!

  • @clarkgrayhame1250
    @clarkgrayhame1250 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I know these things have always been a problem. I knew a brother who went to prison for not going in the military during the Vietnam War. In certainly was not good for him. I wouldn't have wanted to go to prison for my neutrality and was scared to death when I turned 18. I got real scared when Kuwait was invaded and Desert Shield was implemented. I hated all that internal strife and I curse them all for it.

  • @joshuaryan1946
    @joshuaryan1946 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the very best presentations of the social, theological, and historical issues. The WT lost a powerful voice when it lost you! Thank God it did!

  • @annabizaro-doo-dah
    @annabizaro-doo-dah ปีที่แล้ว +6

    JT they've just recently released those poor men from Eritrea who've been languishing in jail for over 25 years😢 because they couldn't do alternative service. Lord help them if they ever learn the truth about Watchtower. Lost the whole of their young lives. My heart aches for them.

  • @kittylove2975
    @kittylove2975 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's interesting to me why my JW "friends" or JW extended family NEVER asked me why I left the Organization. 🤷

  • @red.rose.08
    @red.rose.08 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You lost weight Sir. I hope you're ok, healthwise. Much love to you and Lady Cee.❤️

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yea trying to eat right now
      that NC BBQ and Baked Beans might be good though LOL

  • @willyb933
    @willyb933 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gotta love the "Classics!" Man that was better than watching Forest Gump again!! ❤😃

  • @JA9-fx7sg
    @JA9-fx7sg ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the hardest things about this religion is that people aren’t allowed to question without being branded spiritually weak-or the absolute worst JW judgment-an apostate. Some of the recent “new light” teachings are things that didn’t make sense to thinking people at the time. And of course, although JWs would have been chastised for expressing any doubts back then, they are now supposed to smile and be thankful for the “new light.” Thank you for your channel. I love that you present topics clearly and without embellishment or exaggeration. None of these resources were available when I faded many years ago. The guilt drilled into a third generation “born in” like me still lingers, and videos like this are so reaffirming. Thank you for all you do.

    • @pvmoore1154
      @pvmoore1154 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      May I ask, do you now believe that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are three persons in one Godhead and have you been born-again?
      It seems that often times,... even when former JW's are free from the bondage of the cult,... they are SO disillusioned with "religion" in general,... they somehow miss the pure joy and peace that being born-again, entering a personal relationship Jesus and the promise of eternal salvation that awaits them, at the foot of the Cross.

  • @louiscassar7085
    @louiscassar7085 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Regarding the neutrality matter, I know from first hand that WT was telling us to say to the authorities "because of our Christian Biblical trained conscious we refuse to serve the Armed forces "....in a specific meeting it was pointed out that no matter what, we must NEVER say it's a WT policy or mandate! Typical WT, throwing us under the bus. Many suffered years in prison because of WT and we knew that in other European countries WT accepted alternative service, but in our country, which was in Europe as well was denied by WT...

    • @broncosbest6441
      @broncosbest6441 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was this Greece or somewhere else?

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great point
      They told us what our conscience should do
      What an oxymoron

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@broncosbest6441not sure of your question
      Help us out

    • @broncosbest6441
      @broncosbest6441 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ExJWCriticalThinker He stated that alternative service was accepted in certain European countries but not in his country. I wondered if it was Greece where alternative service wasn’t seen as acceptable by the watchtower. Years ago many Greek brothers spent time in jail as I think the service was compulsory there.

  • @KLuke-ld9we
    @KLuke-ld9we ปีที่แล้ว +2

    On the cover of that magazine is an old bethelite ....Bob Hatsfield. He was in my old congregation in Brooklyn. My mom had him over MANY times for dinner after sunday meetings.
    He would give my brother a lot of his old radio equipment.
    Very nice man.

  • @DY2784
    @DY2784 ปีที่แล้ว

    Among the best classics!👍🏼

  • @Markypoo-poo-8-Beans
    @Markypoo-poo-8-Beans ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You know JT and Lady C this video is the number one reason why I don't attend the Memorial anymore

  • @excultcarol5570
    @excultcarol5570 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad you reshared this, I hadn't seen this one, and yes it's infuriating beyond what words will ever be able to express.

  • @theoneandonlykyle9800
    @theoneandonlykyle9800 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    On this episode of sneaking in the movies a classic video on why we left ohh I got my popcorn. Just kidding love you guys I've learned so much from this channel.

  • @theoriginalwaterbaby
    @theoriginalwaterbaby ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your points of bizarre and arbitrary and harmful changes of doctrine are excellent! And all ones that also brought me out. 🤔
    The brothers who went to jail for neutrality could have died in jail.
    Many today might not know that under persecution, in Eritrea, some brothers spent over 20 years, 26 years, in jail, and some died there. This information is on the WT's own website.
    Sisters in countries "under ban" have been jailed, tortured and raped, for preaching too openly or studying with a neighbor. This information came directly from a brother serving in that country, as a cautionary tale, told to an American sister who was seeking in all faithfulness to serve there as well.
    No God or Son of God by any name protected or rescued any of them. No God or Son of God by any name would have protected that sister, had she chosen to serve in the country "under ban".
    It's all blind guidance by men, made up to suit the times and the changing control needs of those men, and given DIFFERENTLY TO DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, at the same time!
    (For those who havent yet read them, please see Ray Franz's writings on "Mexico and Malawi".)
    Thank you JT and Lady Cee! You encourage and inspire. 💖 My binge watching of ex jw videos - after sweating through that terrible first fear 😱 - was such a blur... but this and other videos of yours helped me calm down and "get it", mentally and emotionally, in a way that enabled me to start taking baby PIMO steps! 🐣 Crackin' thru that eggshell loll!!
    Much love to you both and to our brave friends currently "making the move" out of the Big House! 💖✈️

  • @4AdamKane1
    @4AdamKane1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good stuff, thank you!

  • @joschawil
    @joschawil ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I left because out of one side of the mouths of several members they told me that they loved me. On the other side of their mouths they destroyed my relationship with my family.

  • @bhilbert11
    @bhilbert11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    JT, When you put together the talk did you know about Rutherford's talk and book that millions now living will never die?

    • @ExJWCriticalThinker
      @ExJWCriticalThinker  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes but as a good jw we all dismissed it as OLD LIGHT
      LOL
      THE NEW LIGHT concept is what makes it work so well sad to say