Santa Cruz Hightower 4 Review: The Descender's MTB

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  • @flyingnorseman
    @flyingnorseman หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Just think its a bad idea to force people into wireless that have no interest in it plus the additional cost.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I agree. Luckily the C frame is still cable compatible.

    • @joehoeper3941
      @joehoeper3941 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think we will see mechanical options stick around on bike frames with SRAM mechanical transmission on the way...

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hopefully so!

    • @ericbeech2652
      @ericbeech2652 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sram has a mechanical version in the works!

  • @stuartthomasson5027
    @stuartthomasson5027 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    @bikersedge bike reviews are my absolute favorite. Quality, honest reviews with high production quality. Looking forward to the next video.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! Really appreciate the kind words.

  • @motmot2377
    @motmot2377 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Because of your reviews I bought a HT 2 and have been loving it ever since! A sweet all around bike.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rad! Enjoy.

  • @Wizler71
    @Wizler71 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love your humor, the comparisons with similar bikes, and your concise yet well-considered summaries!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey, thanks! Glad you like it.

  • @AlienfromEarth
    @AlienfromEarth หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Super excited to see the Hightower vs. ripmo video. If possible, I’d love to hear separately how they compare on the easier flowy and jumpy trails and then on the more technical black trails as I’m guessing that will be the deciding factor for many riders depending on how they divide their time

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      We're really close to wrapping that one up. It's going to be great with the Hightower v Ripmo v Sentinel. Stay tuned.

    • @jgaytan91
      @jgaytan91 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@bikersedgeadd the pivot switchblade

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Won't be able to do that. We don't carry pivot. plus we like good bikes...😂

    • @jgaytan91
      @jgaytan91 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ 🤣🤣🤣

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for laughing. Most people get really mad and offended by that joke. It’s probably a great bike but it’s fun to poke fun.

  • @EvansMTBSaga
    @EvansMTBSaga หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's cool you're back on the bike. That brace you were wearing looked gnarly! I know the feeling of having to lower the bars a lot on a Santa Cruz, dang near slammed on mine

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EvansMTBSaga thanks! I love a tall front end so Im usually a big fan of SC stack heights.

  • @mkrj2576
    @mkrj2576 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great review, as always. The HT is now a lot of bike and there is a pretty big hole between the 120/130 Tallboy and this. Sure would like to see the TB and 5010 marry and go 130/140 with a flip chip, MX option. Trail riding is still an 80% climbing or at least pedaling and traversing proposition, and this HT sounds like too much bike to pedal around on.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s certainly not too much to pedal around on. It pedals just fine. That said it does skew slightly to the DH.

  • @prominadetrekker
    @prominadetrekker 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Conor great to see you in Moab at BBQ joint and thx for the water bottle! Having a SC HT3, I did wonder how it compares. Certainly seems more DH oriented. Good one nonetheless - the grading system is sure to spark conversations!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Good to meet you too! The HT4 doesn't get worse at climbing in my opinion. But yes, it gets a bit better on the DH.

    • @prominadetrekker
      @prominadetrekker 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@bikersedge Thanks buddy!

  • @MrAntoniovine
    @MrAntoniovine หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I really like the scoring method! One bike can’t do everything perfectly so let the buyer choose what’s important to them.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks! The thing I hope people take away from the scoring is that 0 (average) isn't bad. Average is great, especially these days.

  • @DR_mountain76
    @DR_mountain76 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am curious how the Hightower V4 compares the Megatower V2? They have similar wheelbase, similar reach, similar chainstay and Head angle. Is this juat a short travel Megatower?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They’re similar on paper but the suspension kinematics keep them very distinct.

  • @badfishgood
    @badfishgood หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dude I love the scoring... Any chance you'd go back in recent time and score previously reviewed bikes? Spur, Ripmo, Ripley, etc.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks! I'm planning on doing that for recent bikes that I can still score fairly.

    • @ultimatist
      @ultimatist หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bikersedge awesome, looking forward to the scoring table buildout.

    • @ABHORRANCE831
      @ABHORRANCE831 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bikersedgeMegatower V2 score would be cool !

  • @ThunderStruckMTB
    @ThunderStruckMTB หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Rockshox approves of the new scoring metric.👍

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't tell them that's where I got the idea.

  • @alexander.sollie
    @alexander.sollie หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great work, as always. I’m really looking forward to the others in this category.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We’ve done most everything in the category already. Just doing a quick showdown soon.

  • @009etna
    @009etna หลายเดือนก่อน

    I placed an HTv4 order and waiting for it.
    This review pretty much confirmed this is the bike i want, ok on pedal, confident on descents and good all-arounder!
    My friend got Bronson v5 and one of the downsides is huge fat ugly down tube that can cause problems fitting into some bike racks....and its ugly in a mix with standard thin top tube😂

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@009etna this has the exact same front triangle as the Bronson.

  • @ishamw2329
    @ishamw2329 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How would it compare to the V2 Megatower. Is it much better peddling or noticeably more poppy? Thanks

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yes, to both of those things. It's also less plush and stable when things get rough, as you'd probably expect. The HT just feels quite a bit more well-rounded.

    • @ABHORRANCE831
      @ABHORRANCE831 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I am overbiked on an MT2 that I ride more like a Trail bike than Enduro, and demoed HT4 twice. HT4 pedals substantially lighter, and quicker. As Connor says, not as plush or firmly planted, but I also didn't put it through the paces on more challenging (to me) trails, so much as rad comfortable familiar trails. My initial impressions were yep, I want to sell my MT2 and get the HT4, however, I want to plush the suspension more with a big air can like Fox X2 or RockShox Vivid.

    • @ishamw2329
      @ishamw2329 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ABHORRANCE831I also have a MT2 that I ride every where and looking for a second bike that’s more lively on tamer trails. Also considering the Bronson or 5010.

  • @francescofoschi8941
    @francescofoschi8941 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always on top of the review game. What bike in this category would you recommend for its climbing ability?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Sentinel is really good. And as always, the Ripmo is up there, too. Our Ripmo v Hightower v Sentinel video should be out soon.

  • @terr256
    @terr256 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The review I've been waiting for! Can you guys review an Atherton bike?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh man, I wish I could. Write them a letter on my behalf and ask if they'll send me one please.

  • @travelthenarrowtrail8660
    @travelthenarrowtrail8660 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey Connor! Great video man. I know you loved the Vivid on the SB160. Try the Vivid on Ripmo. Oh man... Yeah, bud, its that good. In my video, I run it at 230X65 for a Ripmo at 160mm with plenty of clearance to the seat tube. Try the Vivid on the Ripmo! Then do a back to back.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey thanks. I might give it a go if I get the chance.

  • @RookYZRM1
    @RookYZRM1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a V2 Hightower, absolutely loved it, but wanted something a little more mini-enduro than all-arounder. The V4 seemed like a mini-Megatower which was exactly what I was looking for, got a DHX2 coil for it and CAN'T wait to get on it. Curious if you've ridden it with a coil shock yet?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I haven't ridden a coil on this yet. Not sure I'd want to - I typically prefer air shocks on most bikes, and with how this one rides, I'm very happy to stick with air.

    • @ABHORRANCE831
      @ABHORRANCE831 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm considering switching from Megatower to HT4, and changing my X2 shock length to fit the HT4 (which apparently can be done with a spacer)

  • @scosso232
    @scosso232 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    0:14 How tall are the tester to ride an XL size? Please in centimeters 😊. I'im really interested to HT4 but I'm little bit in doubt about the size... I'm 184 cm with 87 cm of leg inseam.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Im 187

    • @scosso232
      @scosso232 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@bikersedge ok noted thank you, so I'm really confused which size buy... Now I have a Yeti SB150 in size L that have the TT 1,5 cm longer than the HT4 in the same size but them have the same reach... I climb usually in single track and probably the HT4 in L size could be shorter than I need.

  • @AdventuresWithClair
    @AdventuresWithClair หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always a solid review, my go to for all my bike reviews.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Clair!

  • @22tipping
    @22tipping 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m at a crossroads in life. I’ve been on a 2019 Sentinel for a few years. It was always a grind for me to climb the local fire roads and single track. I find myself riding less because of the grueling climbs around here. At 45 years old I’m leaning towards a more balanced bike like a smuggler, tallboy, or Ripley. I don’t think the Hightower is what I’m looking for now after the changes but would the Tallboy be enough?
    “Hightaller” when?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think there are a few options you could look at that fall between a tallboy and Hightower. The Smuggler is certainly one of them. The Occam SL built with burlier tires and brakes could do the trick too.

  • @radiohedd
    @radiohedd หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review as always. Do you think Santa Cruz will eventually drop VPP for the hightower or is VPP here to stay?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don't see VPP going anywhere soon. The only reason they went 4-bar on the Vala was because of the motor placement.

  • @patrickwilliamson673
    @patrickwilliamson673 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review thx. As a shorter rider 5ft 8, I’m undecided between the bum clearance of the Bronson or the extra traction of the 29er. Is there any noticeable climbing advantage to the Hightower over the Bronson ?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don’t think k there’s much between them at all in any aspect.

  • @JCaleb3718
    @JCaleb3718 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great review... And love the new rating scale. Now I'm wondering what the rating of recent bikes you've reviewed would be. Perhaps you could do a "rating baseline" video where you toss out your ratings of previous reviews in several categories to give us YTers a good context for new bikes coming out? 😊

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JCaleb3718 yeah I’ve been going back and adding them to the written ones on the website.

    • @JCaleb3718
      @JCaleb3718 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @bikersedge O that's fantastic. I'll have to go and look. Thanks!!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'll go back as far as I feel I can while still being fair. So probably through bikes I've ridden this year.

    • @JCaleb3718
      @JCaleb3718 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bikersedge that makes sense. I was interested in the new Ibis bikes, as well as the Rocky's and the Orbea Occam SL and LT.

  • @joeymcvey7051
    @joeymcvey7051 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Seems like this might be the best trail bike to snag at the moment.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      For slow folks like you, probably.

  • @Schwabz33
    @Schwabz33 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You know what I find funny is that people come on here and talk bad about a bike they can’t afford. I’m so sick and tired of people talking trash about something that they have no intentions on purchasing.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Schwabz33 to each their own. The one that bugs me is when folks talk trash on a bike they’ve never ridden. They heard something on a forum somewhere and then come here and regurgitate it. Ha.

  • @J.Hong8765
    @J.Hong8765 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just curious if you tried riding in steeper head angle and if you did how was the experience. Thanks for the content. Appreciate your feedback.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I rode in both low and high. Frankly there’s not a lot between them. It .3° is all. I don’t think it significantly changes the ride quality.

    • @J.Hong8765
      @J.Hong8765 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ awesome thank you for your feedback. I am torn between the hightower and the sentinel

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ we will have our showdown published soon. Stay tuned.

  • @lordtennyson6669
    @lordtennyson6669 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best bike reviews on the internet 💯

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey thanks!

  • @Loki92-tb3jv
    @Loki92-tb3jv หลายเดือนก่อน

    Struggeling between the new Hightower vs. Bronson, but overall I guess to choose better pedaling traction and stability against the more playful, agility setup. Hopefully the right decision too 😅

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Loki92-tb3jv I really don’t think there’s much between them at all. Extremely similar.

  • @brennanmackenzie370
    @brennanmackenzie370 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where are you riding in the video. That ridge line was magestic.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brennanmackenzie370 this is a mix of park city and Richfield Utah.

    • @brennanmackenzie370
      @brennanmackenzie370 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. Great videos. Love you precision. Keep it up

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ thanks for the kind words.

  • @davidswankier7839
    @davidswankier7839 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m really tossing between this and new Bronson. Would you say that one has the advantage for climbing? Or if one would be better for the bike park?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Like I mentioned in the video I think 9/10 people wouldn’t tell the difference between the bikes.

  • @jdmbeaner182
    @jdmbeaner182 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How does the SB140LR compare?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think the SB140 is probably closest to the Sentinel. Compared to the HT4 it's more supportive, snappy, and sharp but less forgiving, plush, and playful

  • @matthewbaker4922
    @matthewbaker4922 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want intel on some of those trails. I ride a lot of the same ones but there are one or two I dont recognize 🤔. Great reviews!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s all Park City and Richfield.

  • @LvCapsule
    @LvCapsule หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job!! I would like to see Intense Tracer 29 pro build review plz 😊😊😊😊

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! We don’t carry Intense. Won’t be able to make it happen.

  • @Shredding-q1f
    @Shredding-q1f หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Connor. Thanks for the awesome review as always! Love your content and it’s great to see you back riding again. Just a question though, you didn’t mention how the new Hightower compared to the previous V3. Is the new one better or the worse or similar or the same? I sold my V3 because I couldn’t get it to feel the way I wanted it to be. Just wanted to know if it’s worth getting the new model if someone has a V3? Thanks

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I didn't compare the two because it's been quite a long time since I've ridden the HT3. I didn't feel like I could compare them fairly. That said, I enjoy riding the 4 more than the 3. The 4 seems a bit more lively and comfortable. I like the suspension changes. At the end of the day, there's not a huge difference, but there are some noticeable differences between the two.

    • @Shredding-q1f
      @Shredding-q1f หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ Thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated! Honestly I kinda figured it wouldn’t be a huge difference either. But now that I know your thoughts, I’m not going to spend the big bucks and get the new one. I also think that the newer Santa Cruz bikes don’t have very good value for your money either.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They can be a bit spendy, but if you look at the intangibles, I think Santa Cruz does better than most other brands. Especially when it comes to practicality, ease of use, durability, warranty, paint quality, etc. You get a hell of a frame from the money - even if you pay a bit more.

  • @Casual_Sports_Enthusiast
    @Casual_Sports_Enthusiast หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a V3. How close to a V4 would it get with a 160mm fork and making the shock compression slightly lighter?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I wouldn't be rushing to go upgrade if I were you. I do enjoy the 4 more than the 3, but at the end of the day, they're still similar bikes as you'd expect.

    • @chrisallen5293
      @chrisallen5293 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have the v2. Just might upgrade to a v3 that's on sale or wait to see if the tallboy gets bumped up in travel😃​@@bikersedge

  • @alexandrecosson14
    @alexandrecosson14 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which region ? Landscapes are beautiful !

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@alexandrecosson14 Utah.

  • @MasterChronometer
    @MasterChronometer หลายเดือนก่อน

    Having watched the current pinkbike reviews, it seems a lot of the bikes that can be both MX and 29 have compromised bottom bracket heights and sometimes head angle/ seat tube angle.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah. That is certainly a consideration.

  • @lukeclarkson1164
    @lukeclarkson1164 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does it feel compared to the occam LT?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Check for the previous comments asking about that. I compared it there.

  • @William.N
    @William.N หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know about the new rating system. I feel it would be better if you put the numbers on post it notes and stuck them to a piece of cardboard for the presentation. Great review, as per usual, though.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Noted. I'll raid the recycling bin for the next video.

  • @treyaston9628
    @treyaston9628 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How would you compare to the SB140 and Stumpjumper?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not sure about the Stumpjumper. Check the comments for the SB140 comparison.

  • @skylermurphy1609
    @skylermurphy1609 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @bikersedge would you compare this to the new Occam LT??

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The LT has a much sportier geometry feel. The front end is much lower and more responsive. The LT has a similar suspension feel but it's a bit less supportive throughout the entire stroke - keep in mind I rode the LT with a coil.

  • @MrBig617
    @MrBig617 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would it be weird to run a 150 fork to lower that stack height?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’d personally just run fewer spacers under the stem. If that’s still too tall I guess you could drop the fork by 10mm. You’d get a steeper HTA with that and I wouldn’t want that.

  • @S1ckb0t
    @S1ckb0t หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does it compare to the RM Altitude?

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is much closer to the current Instinct than it is the current Altitude

  • @richhb14
    @richhb14 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would love to see a Forbidden Druid or a Norco.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’d love to ride a Druid too.

  • @NoShredDad
    @NoShredDad หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should come out to Oregon and ride near Dallas. For your next bike review. :)

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huck yeah! Love that spot.

    • @NoShredDad
      @NoShredDad หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bikersedge if you thinking of Black Rock that’s not the spot I am talking about. These trails are not on any maps. :)

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ yeah. I’ve ridden the stuff on the logging land in Dallas. The big jump line is rad. Never been to black rock.

  • @richhb14
    @richhb14 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You’re convincing me to buy one.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@richhb14 I’ve pretty well convinced myself too. Ha.

  • @NoShredDad
    @NoShredDad หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    New Hightower is so close in Geo to Megatower V2. Swap your X2 and Fox 38 for Float X and Fox 36 and bam you got a Hightower v4.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don't think it's quite as simple as that. The suspension kinematics are very different and the ride quality is really different between those two.

    • @NoShredDad
      @NoShredDad หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bikersedge Agreed, was just looking from geo perspective. Am actually considering adding a 5010 for mellow trails. Wonder what’s next for upcoming 5010.

    • @ABHORRANCE831
      @ABHORRANCE831 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      On paper MT2 and HT4 look very alike. On trail HT4 still feels like a Hightower, but all the best traits.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NoShredDad I’d imagine it follows suit with the new Bronson and HT. Would be cool. I love the 5010.

  • @ninjazzrhythm400
    @ninjazzrhythm400 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's a dumb move to make a bike frame less. I mean, I should be able to use wire or wireless shifting.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I totally agree. Luckily the C frame is compatible with both wireless and cable.

  • @petedog9581
    @petedog9581 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This bike is not Gusher approved. That's a deal breaker.

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Should be good for fruit by the foot, though.

    • @RookYZRM1
      @RookYZRM1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Think of it as an emergency stash of gummy bears, just slap a "Break Downtube in case of Emergency" sticker to it😂

    • @petedog9581
      @petedog9581 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bikersedge Stick it on the downtube for extra sticky frame protection.

    • @petedog9581
      @petedog9581 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RookYZRM1 Do they have a tool for that i can stash in my pack? It will be Santa Cruz OEM for sure.

  • @lesterma1608
    @lesterma1608 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Santa Cruz has gone downhill after the conglomerate buy out!

    • @bikersedge
      @bikersedge  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lesterma1608 what makes you say that?