It seems that Navy wants all of our 6 major shipyards to be able to build bigger warships. For long term capability build up. As goa shipyard doesn't have any experience in this regards so they gave this 2 ship contract to them to absorb the skill. One more interesting thing to note is the proposed configuration of 'Next generation Corvette' places it almost in the same class as talwar in terms of displacement, armaments and better than talwar when it comes to electronics.
kindly make a video on exactly how many destroyers , frigates and other ships are active in indian navy and what are the future ships plan by india. same video for air force and army plz. as wiki pedia shows ships which are not yet inducted. so your video will give us exact ans of the strength of india,
The hulls are already 13 years old. Rather than this deal, they could've taken 3 more Indian Nilgiris. But yeah, low cost ships lower displacement ships.
मैं भी यही सोच रहा था । रूस से पुराने 4 तलवार क्लास फ्रिगेट की जगह भारत को खुद ही नीलगिरी क्लास फ्रिगेट के तहत इन चार शिप को बनाना चाहिए था या तलवार क्लास की जगह गोर्शकोव क्लास फ्रिगेट की डील करनी चाहिए थी ।
These types of small Frigates are good choice for carrier battel groups . If 2-3 Small frigates operates together with a carrier battel group, that will also be a force multiplier
So do you believe that the Shivalik class frigate which uses a single arm launcher for SHTIL 1 is similar to the 24 VLS equipped SHTIL of the new Talwar class frigate? Talwar class fregetM2EM radar is considered quite capable and the russia is also upgrading OLD battlecruisers and destroyers with the same radar. Even China is still using these type of radars in its Type 054 frigates ( china operate 30+ type054 frigate )
Any update news about 1) drdo light tank progress 2) Army frcv vehical project 3) mpatgm ( kab tak mass production me jayega ) 4)Nag Missile Carrier (NAMICA) ( yah bhi kab tak mass production me jayega ) 5) 200 Kamov 226T lene the to replace cheeta and chetak ( but ab tak sirf 30 ki sankhya me luh liye gaye hai may be i think baki bache 170 LUH helicopters ka orders kab tak diya jayega koye updates hai ???? ) A) Iaf oprates 6 luh ==> 60 are planned to purchased B) indian army 6 oprate ==> 126 planned But kab tak purchase kiye jane hai yah aur kab tak deliver honge ??? ( source of info Wikipedia and some defence news portals ) 6) 150 lch ka order diya gaya hai usaka sastus report kya hai abhi tak . ( kuch idea hai koye news nahi aaraha hai dealys horaha hai ya nahi ya sab sahi plan ke hisab se progress horaha hai isako leke kuch sastus pata hai kisi ko ) ============================
Induan degine sey bahut acchey hai india waley jo india mey bnatey hai beech .ey radar k liye piller type khada krr detey hai uskey baad b usko stealth boltey hai voh piller 50km pheley hi kisi or ships sey pheley detect ho jatey hai.
@Defence matrix- I have a doubt. When there are three aircraft carriers, we anticipate one would be in maintenance and two available (as they have long duration overhauls) However that is not the case for the other warships in the carrier battle group (they have shorter maintenace stops). So can we not run with three carrier two CBG model. Asking as often the argument made against purchase of third carrier is that we have to spend to purchase additional submarines and warships to support the third carrier. Please enlighten. Thank you
After Batch 3 of talwar class , india must sign a deal for project 18 along with IAC 2 caz chinese navy is growing very rapidly , and after completing nilgiri class project we should focus on INS vishal
Today Indian Navy, no doubt about it. A stronger Navy does not you need all the same numbers , which the three other super powers possess today in the global Naval force. There are many things to consider. How much combat readiness is our Navy? Indegenisation and Modernisation , has it been done? Combat aircraft readiness inside Indian Navy? Various cruise missiles inducted? Nueclear Submarines ? The above factors influences our fleets global might and prowess. Indian Navy had been time tested, Navy had passed in all the previous wars including opium war against Chinese Navy before the first and the second world wars.
Our destroyers and frigates lag in air defence missiles. Why don't we use mk-41 VL system. If we use that vls we can accommodate more missiles in comparatively less space.
@@mnd7381 I'm not talking about ship made in Russia. I'm talking about our own indigenous frigates and destroyers. If we start to develop our own system it'll take a lot of time and money considering our work culture. So it'll be better to get mk-41 vls from US
@@Warship_Warriors VLS have size issues. Unlike Tomahawk, Brahmos won't fit in Mark 41. Idk about AD missiles tho. But better option will be to make an Indian universal VLS.
@@mnd7381 BrahMos can easily fit in mk41 it'll just need some modifications. And second thing, as I said considering our work culture and bureaucracy, it'll take a lot of time to develop our own system. But still it's always better to have an indigenous system instead of foreign one.
@@Warship_Warriors brahmos is 3 times heavier and much bigger. That's why our ships carry less of that. And no, Brahmos already has functional VLS systems, so does MRSAMs. They need to just make an universal one to fit everything. It's not rocket science. I'm not sure about this tho, but US has mostly hot launch missiles, and not every Indian missile is hot launch. Based on Russian ones, they are mostly cold launch. The work it'll take to modify Mark 41 for all these, with a little more work they can make an Indian universal VLS. Won't that be better?
we want a detailed video on Indian Russian FGFA program and it's effect on Indian fighter devlopment how do you rate it over-all ( factor like cost, technology achivement) is it not a desaster ?
Why is India Paying Russia to build Indian warships? Essentially we are wasting foreign exchange AND sending jobs abroad for something that should be done in India. If existing shipyards are unable, it is clear that India needs MORE shipyards and many more trained workers, especially skilled welders and electrical technicians who dont need college degrees. Even if it costs 2X what it costs in Russia - India must build its own warships and keep these skilled workers in India, our yards active and our taxes going to support Indian citizens.
@@Chiniminichaomao Then we need MORE dockyards, more workers, more everything to meet our needs. If the Govt doesnt have money they should privatize existing yards to raise money. We need to expand our navy before the Chinese take over the Indian ocean.
@@iaf010 I fear that we will never be able to catch strength of China , especially in navy . It's not possible until the whole west sanction china or isolate them so their economy get collapse but I don't think it will even happen. The US and China are both giving threats of war to each other but still they are doing trade worth more than 700-800 billion $ We can't catch them atleast in numbers , we don't have money 20 trillion economy V/s 4.1 trillion , they are spending more than 3 times than us in defence , but at least we are trying and giving our best in defence . We don't have capability to dominate them but we have enough strength to protect ourselves and believe me no one can take Indian Ocean from us lol
तलवार क्लास की जगह गोर्शकोव क्लास फ्रिगेट की डील करनी चाहिए थी । अब भी समय है जिन दो तलवार फ्रिगेट का निर्माण गोवा में होना है उसे रद किया जाना चाहिए और गोर्शकोव क्लास फ्रिगेट उसकी जगह बननी चाहिए।
Let's compare it against FREMM frigate of the French navy. Moreover I want Defence Matrix to delve deep into the western naval technologies used in frigates and destroyers. Will wait for such a video if #DefenceMatrix takes my comment into account.
Tried to post the link but TH-cam keeps deleting the comment. Please search on Google ''is su 30 mki a 3rd gen aircraft?'' you will get that article on the top. Do reply if you get
Chinese career cannot be deployed in India ocean. Because it is needed in South China sea. (Closer to China) America already have two career in South China sea
@@ishaq561 only the aircraft carrier can carry more firepower then any other Navy ship. Because aircraft carrier combat battle group. That can deal all ( air , surface , underwater and also special operation ) specially deal with in peace time . Other Navy ships including submarines don't have the capability deal with other country territory. You can clearly see in Ukraine war. (If Russia have aircraft carrier in Black sea . Russia Situation will be totally different )
They don't have to compromise with numbers and quality because of their defense budget 💵, but in our case, if we stop using frigates and start only using destroyers, then we have to compromise with numbers. We can't just maintain a fleet of 50-60 destroyers; we need some Corvettes, frigates, and destroyers to maintain numbers.
India makes every warship in india. These two, as he mentioned were not ment for india, but since Russia Ukraine war, india was getting 2 extra ships in much cheaper cost, so Navy took it to increase numbers. Rest all the ships for indian navy are being constructed in india. Currently there are 67 warships in various phases of construction for india, and out of those 65 are being constructed in india, and only these 2 frigates were being constructed outside india. Hope this helps.
These are not stealthRussian warships but we can make them. Induction is late but better late than never. Lesson for future become self reliant n build produce your own stealth warships like Frigates destroyers etc 😂 Jai Hind 🇮🇳
It seems that Navy wants all of our 6 major shipyards to be able to build bigger warships. For long term capability build up.
As goa shipyard doesn't have any experience in this regards so they gave this 2 ship contract to them to absorb the skill.
One more interesting thing to note is the proposed configuration of 'Next generation Corvette' places it almost in the same class as talwar in terms of displacement, armaments and better than talwar when it comes to electronics.
Navy:🗿
Rest of the Military : 🤡
True 😂😂😂😂@@courage04
@@courage04
Navy 😎
Army 🥸
Airforce 🤡
Bro can you please tell what 6 major shipyards are you talking about(names)
@@VTUGYT
1) MDL, mumbai
2) GRSE, kolkata
3) HSL, vizag
4) GSL, goa
5) CSL, kochi
6) L&T shipyard, katupalli
Indian Navy's future planning:🗿
Indian Air force's future planning 🤓🥸🤡🤡
Indian airforce becoming a cat and Indian Navy becoming a lion.
kindly make a video on exactly how many destroyers , frigates and other ships are active in indian navy and what are the future ships plan by india. same video for air force and army plz. as wiki pedia shows ships which are not yet inducted. so your video will give us exact ans of the strength of india,
The hulls are already 13 years old. Rather than this deal, they could've taken 3 more Indian Nilgiris. But yeah, low cost ships lower displacement ships.
मैं भी यही सोच रहा था । रूस से पुराने 4 तलवार क्लास फ्रिगेट की जगह भारत को खुद ही नीलगिरी क्लास फ्रिगेट के तहत इन चार शिप को बनाना चाहिए था या तलवार क्लास की जगह गोर्शकोव क्लास फ्रिगेट की डील करनी चाहिए थी ।
? They have not been used on waters So no point in trying to tell their age
These types of small Frigates are good choice for carrier battel groups . If 2-3 Small frigates operates together with a carrier battel group, that will also be a force multiplier
India's immediate need...
26 Ragale M and more upgraded sukhoi
So do you believe that the Shivalik class frigate which uses a single arm launcher for SHTIL 1 is similar to the 24 VLS equipped SHTIL of the new Talwar class frigate?
Talwar class fregetM2EM radar is considered quite capable and the russia is also upgrading OLD battlecruisers and destroyers with the same radar.
Even China is still using these type of radars in its Type 054 frigates ( china operate 30+ type054 frigate )
Any update news about
1) drdo light tank progress
2) Army frcv vehical project
3) mpatgm ( kab tak mass production me jayega )
4)Nag Missile Carrier (NAMICA) ( yah bhi kab tak mass production me jayega )
5) 200 Kamov 226T lene the to replace cheeta and chetak ( but ab tak sirf 30 ki sankhya me luh liye gaye hai may be i think baki bache 170 LUH helicopters ka orders kab tak diya jayega koye updates hai ???? )
A) Iaf oprates 6 luh ==> 60 are planned to purchased
B) indian army 6 oprate ==> 126 planned
But kab tak purchase kiye jane hai yah aur kab tak deliver honge ???
( source of info Wikipedia and some defence news portals )
6) 150 lch ka order diya gaya hai usaka sastus report kya hai abhi tak . ( kuch idea hai koye news nahi aaraha hai dealys horaha hai ya nahi ya sab sahi plan ke hisab se progress horaha hai isako leke kuch sastus pata hai kisi ko )
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I dont know but 40000 tons ke 4 ambibous asault ships ke baremain kuch developemnt hui hain 10 april 2024 ko
These ships will enhance our fleet strength.
JaiBharat
Great Intiative and shall boslter Indian Navy forces structure and Naval presence across Broad spractrum and also Bolster Naval capabilities
Induan degine sey bahut acchey hai india waley jo india mey bnatey hai beech .ey radar k liye piller type khada krr detey hai uskey baad b usko stealth boltey hai voh piller 50km pheley hi kisi or ships sey pheley detect ho jatey hai.
@Defence matrix- I have a doubt. When there are three aircraft carriers, we anticipate one would be in maintenance and two available (as they have long duration overhauls) However that is not the case for the other warships in the carrier battle group (they have shorter maintenace stops). So can we not run with three carrier two CBG model.
Asking as often the argument made against purchase of third carrier is that we have to spend to purchase additional submarines and warships to support the third carrier.
Please enlighten. Thank you
After Batch 3 of talwar class , india must sign a deal for project 18 along with IAC 2 caz chinese navy is growing very rapidly , and after completing nilgiri class project we should focus on INS vishal
Today Indian Navy, no doubt about it.
A stronger Navy does not you need all the same numbers , which the three other super powers possess today in the global Naval force.
There are many things to consider.
How much combat readiness is our Navy?
Indegenisation and Modernisation , has it been done?
Combat aircraft readiness inside Indian Navy?
Various cruise missiles inducted?
Nueclear Submarines ?
The above factors influences our fleets global might and prowess.
Indian Navy had been time tested, Navy had passed in all the previous wars including opium war against Chinese Navy before the first and the second world wars.
What's the difference between the shivalik, talwar and nilgiri class frigates?.
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Our destroyers and frigates lag in air defence missiles. Why don't we use mk-41 VL system. If we use that vls we can accommodate more missiles in comparatively less space.
It's an US system. Russia, India, China nobody uses mk41 VLS. Everyone has their own VLS.
@@mnd7381 I'm not talking about ship made in Russia. I'm talking about our own indigenous frigates and destroyers. If we start to develop our own system it'll take a lot of time and money considering our work culture. So it'll be better to get mk-41 vls from US
@@Warship_Warriors VLS have size issues. Unlike Tomahawk, Brahmos won't fit in Mark 41. Idk about AD missiles tho. But better option will be to make an Indian universal VLS.
@@mnd7381 BrahMos can easily fit in mk41 it'll just need some modifications. And second thing, as I said considering our work culture and bureaucracy, it'll take a lot of time to develop our own system. But still it's always better to have an indigenous system instead of foreign one.
@@Warship_Warriors brahmos is 3 times heavier and much bigger. That's why our ships carry less of that. And no, Brahmos already has functional VLS systems, so does MRSAMs. They need to just make an universal one to fit everything. It's not rocket science.
I'm not sure about this tho, but US has mostly hot launch missiles, and not every Indian missile is hot launch. Based on Russian ones, they are mostly cold launch. The work it'll take to modify Mark 41 for all these, with a little more work they can make an Indian universal VLS. Won't that be better?
we want a detailed video on Indian Russian FGFA program and it's effect on Indian fighter devlopment
how do you rate it over-all
( factor like cost, technology achivement)
is it not a desaster ?
Plz make a video on navy current fleet and future of navy.
Like no 1, Jai Hind Jai Bharat
Shivalik aur Nilgiri mein 8 brahmos with 6,500 tons & Kolkata, vishakapatnam 16 brahmos with 7,400 tons ...... hamre frigates mein aur potential tha missiles carry karne ka 😮💨
Frigates Aur Destroyers Different Chiz Hai Yaar
If you don't mind can you educate me? I am interested@@Biplab23
@@Biplab23 aabe pada bhi mene kya likha
@@Life_isstrange Abey 6500 vs 7400 dekh raha hai ?
woh dono alag category ki ship hai unki capacity weight ko dekhke nahin hoti hai samjhe ?
@@Biplab23 8 brahmos se jayada carry karne ka potential
Any update on US -2 seaplanes
Does these ships have the outdated single arm shtil SAM launcher?
maine ins tushil ki video dekhi hain usmaine shatil 1 launchers nahi hain
Why is India Paying Russia to build Indian warships?
Essentially we are wasting foreign exchange AND sending jobs abroad for something that should be done in India.
If existing shipyards are unable, it is clear that India needs MORE shipyards and many more trained workers, especially skilled welders and electrical technicians who dont need college degrees.
Even if it costs 2X what it costs in Russia - India must build its own warships and keep these skilled workers in India, our yards active and our taxes going to support Indian citizens.
India is already building 65-70 naval ships in the Indian dockyard and recently we built 7 frigates in India under the project 17A
@@Chiniminichaomao Then we need MORE dockyards, more workers, more everything to meet our needs. If the Govt doesnt have money they should privatize existing yards to raise money.
We need to expand our navy before the Chinese take over the Indian ocean.
@@iaf010 I fear that we will never be able to catch strength of China , especially in navy . It's not possible until the whole west sanction china or isolate them so their economy get collapse but I don't think it will even happen. The US and China are both giving threats of war to each other but still they are doing trade worth more than 700-800 billion $
We can't catch them atleast in numbers , we don't have money
20 trillion economy V/s 4.1 trillion , they are spending more than 3 times than us in defence , but at least we are trying and giving our best in defence . We don't have capability to dominate them but we have enough strength to protect ourselves and believe me no one can take Indian Ocean from us lol
तलवार क्लास की जगह गोर्शकोव क्लास फ्रिगेट की डील करनी चाहिए थी । अब भी समय है जिन दो तलवार फ्रिगेट का निर्माण गोवा में होना है उसे रद किया जाना चाहिए और गोर्शकोव क्लास फ्रिगेट उसकी जगह बननी चाहिए।
Let's compare it against FREMM frigate of the French navy. Moreover I want Defence Matrix to delve deep into the western naval technologies used in frigates and destroyers. Will wait for such a video if #DefenceMatrix takes my comment into account.
Matlab ye aatey hee refit ke liye chaley jayenge.
Sir any update on netra mk2
Re uploaded?
Nope, the video got demonetized due to Russia in title, had to reupload with title change
@@DefenceMatrix 😮😮
Jai hind🇮🇳
We should get kirov class destroyer
Ewww bro
russian destroyers may not be a good choice
हमने तो खुद ही frigates बनायी है फिर रूस से क्यों order किया गया ?
2 firgets india main bhi toh hain na , shayad batch 3 ke 2 frigets ko russia main banana chalu kiya tha issi liye engin milneke bad bhi vo vahi banega
But ab to zorya jo ki Ukraine ki company kai ship engine banane ki wo to india ne kharid li recently
ATTENTION ATTENTION ATTENTION!!
MATRIX PLEASE REPLY IF YOU SEE THIS COMMENT
There is an article from TOI which says su 30 mki is of 3rd generation.
Link?
Tried to post the link but TH-cam keeps deleting the comment. Please search on Google ''is su 30 mki a 3rd gen aircraft?'' you will get that article on the top.
Do reply if you get
11 year's 😮
Compare them to thugril class of pak navy as these frigates will be deployed against pak navy.
when i watch defence update...i always disappoint ..India always lacking
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The Chinese Navy is downplayed a lot , their strength surpassed America in number except supercarriers (3). That's the biggest threat for India.
Chinese career cannot be deployed in India ocean. Because it is needed in South China sea. (Closer to China) America already have two career in South China sea
Chinese ships are small
Total tonnage of USN is far more than PLAnavy
@@ishaq561 then what is the reason they need carrier ?
In case of war , their sheer numbers are gonna be a menace for India.
@@ishaq561 only the aircraft carrier can carry more firepower then any other Navy ship.
Because aircraft carrier combat battle group. That can deal all ( air , surface , underwater and also special operation ) specially deal with in peace time . Other Navy ships including submarines don't have the capability deal with other country territory. You can clearly see in Ukraine war. (If Russia have aircraft carrier in Black sea . Russia Situation will be totally different )
Air Force should learn something from navy
Why usa not use frigeds? Useless
They don't have to compromise with numbers and quality because of their defense budget 💵, but in our case, if we stop using frigates and start only using destroyers, then we have to compromise with numbers. We can't just maintain a fleet of 50-60 destroyers; we need some Corvettes, frigates, and destroyers to maintain numbers.
why cant we make our own Frigates??? India shd stop making frigates and Move to Destroyers only.
Bhai dono apne roles Hai, air India apnea khud ķe frigate Bana Rahe hai
India makes every warship in india. These two, as he mentioned were not ment for india, but since Russia Ukraine war, india was getting 2 extra ships in much cheaper cost, so Navy took it to increase numbers.
Rest all the ships for indian navy are being constructed in india. Currently there are 67 warships in various phases of construction for india, and out of those 65 are being constructed in india, and only these 2 frigates were being constructed outside india. Hope this helps.
We have builded our own frigates also, we have three made in india frigates
7 Nilgiri class Frogates Launched.
HEARD OF SHIVALIK AND NILGIRI CLASS FRIGATE ??? THIS DEAL WAS MADE 1.5 DECADE AGO ... 4 OF THEM 2 MADE IN YANTAR AND 2 MADE IN GOA
First view and like
Please don’t buy more Russian junk
These are not stealthRussian warships but we can make them. Induction is late but better late than never. Lesson for future become self reliant n build produce your own stealth warships like Frigates destroyers etc 😂 Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Hahahaah Aatmanirbhar