I do not play that much. I have been busy by real life. Going back to school and job full time. Last i played, In order of best to worst: Dark elf. Strong overall gameplay with multiple hero or tech route possible. rushing t1 or t2 being viable and best late game Human: price adjusted and other stuff made human less op but still having many option. They lack t2 power if you lose units early so they are quite good rushing and kiting with arbs early. Good transition t2 if you kept units alive for their needed upgrade. Decent t3 units and combo and easiest access to titan with market. Orc: they are hit or miss. Going hunter brute scoundrel seems like the 100% only competitive build beside goblin rushing with shaman. Occultist been nerfed a lot and wouldnt recommend relying on him like before as a never dying hero... Cause he die. They got some love with wargs and other goblins units. They either snowball hard or die really fast if they cant get 1 sector down of their enemy in a relatively fast time. Troll and dwarves are pretty equal. They got some love here and there but they rely heavy on composition easy to counter until their tech pop up in t2-t3. I feel i would give dwarf a little more power because of how good their golem and air units is. But a good troll player can just harass early stone or ressources of other race and give them the time to outgrow the enemy force. Dwarf doesnt have as much of an early harass powerspike. They rely on their hero xp to get ultimate fast cause their t1-t2 units wont last long against most t1-t2 army but dwarf hero can carry their fight for them. while troll doesnt need as much level as they need their slow eco to ramp up fast while delaying others.
Oh and for elves i would but them above troll and dwarf. Like orcs they are hit or miss. You either snowball and get ahead or slowly die without way of coming back. Druid still the best hero but elf need to harass fast or tech fast while other race can do both easier than them. It require good position and game knowledge to push an elf player into a win situation while other race kinda already have all for them going. Elf need to make the play happens where they want it to be or they might lose big time. But if elf are left unchecked they have the strongest t2 deathball and one of the best titan and mage combo for late game.
@@nighthunter3217 yea no probs dude. Real life take priority. Really wondering how much changed since your last tier list. Btw you said here that dark elves don't have good siege. Basilik are quite good and with souls being easy to get I think they are not that bad at siege.
@@King_HarIequin if im not mistaken i said early game siege pressure is non-existant. Since that video dark elves got some nice building cost reduction and it allow them to get more units out. And there was also some building change to allow them to be weaker early game. But of all race i still think dark elves has the worst siege until late t3.
hi , I am a beginner at this game , will get it in this month , really into multiplayer , have experience playing RTS games like sc2,warcraft 3 ,dawn of war 2. You know how the balance changed after the latest patch ? I am thinking to play with trolls and humans , any maybe orcs , what you would advice as a starting faction
Balance for reforced is way better. As for starting race. Human does have the easiest eco to manage and simple army composition. But you can try them all and see what fit your style or what race you think looks great. Balance is ever changing so just have fun with whatever you pick :)
Dwarf are one of the fastest race to move around in the late game due to tunnel being able to teleport army across the map without using your teleportation item. They are also one of the race able to creep faster due to axewielder and hero being strong early game. They have no slow unit like basilisk or catapult since their golem move as fast as your army making them really mobile to strike fast and retreat/harass somewhere else. They are slow to get sector expansion because of their wood cost but once they get going they can get tier 3 around 14-16 min and its one of the fastest to get there.
It was before reforged. There is patch weekly at this moment and it is hard for me to put a clear and defined meta tier list. Major change we can see is troll and orc moving to top of tierlist while human dropping to DE and Elf level. Dwarf still hold the bottom part of meta as far as we can tell
Humans 0:50
Elves/Dark elves 7:49
Trolls 12:04
Dwarves 15:55
Orcs: 19:56
hey bro, got some idea about the tierlist
Hi, I was wondering if you still play and if so how a current tier list would shape out?
I do not play that much. I have been busy by real life. Going back to school and job full time. Last i played,
In order of best to worst:
Dark elf. Strong overall gameplay with multiple hero or tech route possible. rushing t1 or t2 being viable and best late game
Human: price adjusted and other stuff made human less op but still having many option. They lack t2 power if you lose units early so they are quite good rushing and kiting with arbs early. Good transition t2 if you kept units alive for their needed upgrade. Decent t3 units and combo and easiest access to titan with market.
Orc: they are hit or miss. Going hunter brute scoundrel seems like the 100% only competitive build beside goblin rushing with shaman. Occultist been nerfed a lot and wouldnt recommend relying on him like before as a never dying hero... Cause he die. They got some love with wargs and other goblins units. They either snowball hard or die really fast if they cant get 1 sector down of their enemy in a relatively fast time.
Troll and dwarves are pretty equal. They got some love here and there but they rely heavy on composition easy to counter until their tech pop up in t2-t3.
I feel i would give dwarf a little more power because of how good their golem and air units is. But a good troll player can just harass early stone or ressources of other race and give them the time to outgrow the enemy force. Dwarf doesnt have as much of an early harass powerspike. They rely on their hero xp to get ultimate fast cause their t1-t2 units wont last long against most t1-t2 army but dwarf hero can carry their fight for them. while troll doesnt need as much level as they need their slow eco to ramp up fast while delaying others.
Oh and for elves i would but them above troll and dwarf. Like orcs they are hit or miss. You either snowball and get ahead or slowly die without way of coming back. Druid still the best hero but elf need to harass fast or tech fast while other race can do both easier than them. It require good position and game knowledge to push an elf player into a win situation while other race kinda already have all for them going. Elf need to make the play happens where they want it to be or they might lose big time. But if elf are left unchecked they have the strongest t2 deathball and one of the best titan and mage combo for late game.
@@nighthunter3217 Thank you so much for the detailed response! I really appreciate it as a new player. Good luck with work and school!
Can you share your opinion about flying units in Sf3? (Best/worst)
Sure! I can do a unit tier list video next or something like that. I will think about it.
@@nighthunter3217 Thanks!
Do you still play? Think you could do a new one?
I recently started playing back. Just overwhelmed with real life issue. I am working on some orcs build and at the same time testing out meta
@@nighthunter3217 yea no probs dude. Real life take priority. Really wondering how much changed since your last tier list.
Btw you said here that dark elves don't have good siege. Basilik are quite good and with souls being easy to get I think they are not that bad at siege.
@@King_HarIequin if im not mistaken i said early game siege pressure is non-existant. Since that video dark elves got some nice building cost reduction and it allow them to get more units out. And there was also some building change to allow them to be weaker early game. But of all race i still think dark elves has the worst siege until late t3.
hi , I am a beginner at this game , will get it in this month , really into multiplayer , have experience playing RTS games like sc2,warcraft 3 ,dawn of war 2. You know how the balance changed after the latest patch ? I am thinking to play with trolls and humans , any maybe orcs , what you would advice as a starting faction
Balance for reforced is way better. As for starting race. Human does have the easiest eco to manage and simple army composition. But you can try them all and see what fit your style or what race you think looks great. Balance is ever changing so just have fun with whatever you pick :)
I never hear that
"Dwarves are fast"....
It usually eldar/DE
Dwarf are one of the fastest race to move around in the late game due to tunnel being able to teleport army across the map without using your teleportation item. They are also one of the race able to creep faster due to axewielder and hero being strong early game.
They have no slow unit like basilisk or catapult since their golem move as fast as your army making them really mobile to strike fast and retreat/harass somewhere else.
They are slow to get sector expansion because of their wood cost but once they get going they can get tier 3 around 14-16 min and its one of the fastest to get there.
Do u think this is still true with the balancing now?
It was before reforged. There is patch weekly at this moment and it is hard for me to put a clear and defined meta tier list.
Major change we can see is troll and orc moving to top of tierlist while human dropping to DE and Elf level. Dwarf still hold the bottom part of meta as far as we can tell