GREAT German PINOTS - Master of Wine tastes Spätburgunder
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I have used this glass in this Video: RIEDEL Performance Pinot Noir
I have tasted the following wines in this Video:
2019 Weingut Meyer-Näkel Kräuterberg Spätburgunder GG AHR - 90 US$
2018 August Kesseler Assmannshäuser Höllenberg Spätburgunder GG 170 US$
2019 Weingut Keller Morstein Felix Alte Reben Spätburgunder GG RHEINHESSEN 800 US$
2019 Battenfeld Spanier Kirchenstück Spätburgunder GG RHEINHESSEN 50 US$
2012 Friedrich Becker Heydenreich Spätburgunder GG PFALZ
2014 Knipser Kirschgarten Spätburgunder GG PFALZ 50 US$
2005 Fürst Spätburgunder Centgrafenberg GG FRANKEN 110 US$
2019 Weingut Bernhard Huber Sommerhalde Spätburgunder BADEN 62 US$
2018 Salwey Spätburgunder Eichberg GG BADEN 50 US$
Spätburgunder, German for Pinot Noir, has a long history in Germany but for centuries it was a niche product. We say Spätburgunder and Spät rhymes with and means late- referring to the fact that it is late ripening. It was first mentioned in documents in the 14th century in Baden - in Germany's South-West but in 1964 there was just 1,839 ha of Pinot Noir in Germany - mainly in the country's warmest Region Baden. In the 1980s and 1990s, more producers were focusing on quality. With the rising temperature, more information on Pinot Noir winemaking and a market that was ready to pay more Pinot started to gain ground. While some entry-level Pinots are still pretty simple and some premium Pinots are still over-extracted or overoaked in Germany the trend is towards more elegant and more balanced wines. Spätburgunder today is the most widely planted red grape variety in Germany by far with 11,660 has of vineyards - that has increased by 4,500 ha since 1995.
Also, the prices for top Pinots have increased quite a bit over the last few years. They are still cheap compared to Burgundy but there are more and more premium wines selling above the 100 Euro mark. What many people forget is that Germany is the third biggest producer of Pinot Noir in the world - after France and the USA but ahead of New Zealand and Chile for example. But now let's get into the selection last summer I attended a tasting of the VDP. I tasted my way through hundreds of the große Gewächs - or Grand Cru wines - of most of the best estates in Germany. I made a video on the best Rieslings from that tasting but I also selected the best Pinot Noir Große Gewächs wines. I decided, however, that I don’t just want to taste the most recent vintages so I assembled some young and some aged Pinots for you today. I am going North to South through Germany's main Pinot producing regions and I will talk about the differences of the vineyards but also of the Pinot styles in different regions.
Where do you take your price tags for the wines? As a German I am more than confused by the 200$ for Knipser. Apart from the fact that it is an amazing wine, I bought my 2015 vintage for 40€ and even wine-searcher puts the 2014 vintage on the same price level. I believe that it could absolutely compete with 200$ pinots but this price seems a bit odd to me. Great video and a nice selection nevertheless, even though I would have loved to see rebholz im sonnenschein within the selection :)
Yes ... I don't know what happened there. The prices should be the world wide average price in US$ on winesearcher
The Knipser can be bought many places for 36-39 euros per bottle. Great wine btw. And great channel - you are a very good wine communicator.
Nice to hear that, Knipser is just an all round amazing house and I could see myself spending €40,- on a Spätburgunder.
Hope that the Näkel family will
Recover. Love their Pfarrwingert!
Die 2019 von Franz Keller finde ich grandios. Super elegant, superfrisch, verspielt enormer Trinkfluss mit Monsterzug!
One of my favorite Pinot/Spätburgunder from Germany with a very affordable price tag of about 15 € per bottle is the Rote Halde
Spätburgunder Rotwein Spätlese trocken - Edition Orchidea from Winzergenossenschaft Sasbach also in the Kaiserstuhl region. I would love to see you make a video about high quality pinots from Germany in the price/quality sweetspot of about 10-25 €. Keep up the great work
Yes yes that 10-25€ bracket is so much value
I do not have a lot of Spätburgunder in my cellar but the basic Spätburgunder form Weingut Sturm in the Mittelrhein is wonderfull aswell as the B52 from weingut Nelles in the Ahr!
Awesome Video! :)
Now do it again in the price range 10- 30€ ^^
Only tried half a dozen high-end German Pinot Noirs but the one that hit me was the Weingut Meyer-Nakel Dernauer Pfarrwingert Spatburguner Trocken GG I think the 2008 or 2009. It was truly beautiful...
2009 was so good for the Ahr valley iirc
Awesome video. Thanks once again Konstantin!
Thank you for for this amazing video! I requested this a while back and I'm thrilled that you made it! Thank you so much! It was all that i hoped it would be!
The 3 Sterne Weiler am Schlipf from Weingut Schneider is outstanding and great value. I also really like the wines from Saalwächter
You do such a great job! thanks for sharing.
Thanks you very very much! This video was exactly what I was waiting! Looking for MEHR videos from you! ❤️
Such an important video for wine education. Love the amount of wines you tasted. Taking one for the team!
I recently found your channel and absolutely love the content. I would be very happy to see some content for beginners, how to develop your own taste, what to care for when shopping for wine etc.
Loved the show, was first introduced to German Pinot by a client who sent a case which blew me away.
Bro thanks for the amazing content as usual. I live near germany's border in switz and tried now a bunch of spät at different price ranges, was consistently blown away by the quality delivered at remarkable prices. Altough sadly now more expensive than 5-6 years ago. I'll take some time and try to find some of your recommendations. Cheers!
Had a nice weekend in the Baden region, drinking nice Spätburgunder from Heinemann in Ehrenkirchen, then eating in Fritz Kelllers Rebstock, what a god blessed region!
Meyer Nakel is one of my favorites and I was able to visit this winery beautiful wines.
Great vid konstantin! You are sensational!
This is pure gold :) These seems to be a bit more expensive than my usual stuff. But so many new and good tips, many thanks. My favourite german PN so far is Christmann idig GG, it will be fun to see how it stacks up against some of these.
Looks like WOW tasting, fascinating stuff, many thanks 🙏🏼
Great video I’ve been drinking a lot of Pinot lately but mostly Oregon and Russian river valley stuff but thanks for paving the road for Germany 🇩🇪 I really enjoy your videos Thanks
Great Pinots selection Konstantin, very high-quality wines. Another good that I'd like to mention is the 'Spatburgunder by Kloster Eberbach' from Rheinghau. A truly great wine gem!
My local wine shop introduced me to Matthias Gaul and I've been very impressed with his spätburgunders, especialy the steinrassel.
Some one mentioned Austria, agree that it could be very interesting. Made a stopover last summer in Alto Adige, they also make beautiful PNs which also could be a topic. Was in general impressed by the quality but with only 30% leaving Italy then it is hard to get.
Another wonderful video - I'm definitely thirsty now! 😄 I'm pretty sure that, even today, if you asked the average person in the street in the UK what was the first thing that came to mind when you say 'German Wine', the response would be 'Liebfraumilch', followed by 'sweet wine'. This is a category of wine that I had no idea existed and I'd love to try one (best get saving!) Many thanks Konstantin for the ongoing education 👍
Thanks for a great video! Since I am drinking German Pinoty, I love Knipser‘s Kirschgarten! Happy you rated it high … 👍
It’s bad I can not get much German wine here in my hometown, but I will look harder, very interested now to try them! Great video Konstantin, thanks!
At the risk of beeing called a philistine: I love Spätburgunder Tradition from Fürst. This is not the deep, elegant wine, but it has a delightful freshness to it. Sour cherry, Italian herbs, a tiny little slight note of wood. At that point of time I prefer the fresher wines over the certainly higher quality complex but also heavier red wines.
Thank you very much, very very intriguing to me! I loved the brief knowledges about winemaking styles. I must admit that the German Pinot Noir seems to be ahead of my anticipation. I am looking forward to tasting German PN one by one. But unfortunately no dealer! Take care and be healthy!
Thank you for this video. Recently try Durbacher Pinot Nor from Baden. The wine was remembered for its pungent tannins. Knipser and Salwey it’s wow wines, of course!!
Meine Favoriten sind Huber und Keller. Den Knipser muss ich probieren! Tolles lineup👍
My favourite German SB is the Rings Kallstadter Steinacker from Pfalz. Also the Bienenberg R from Huber. In the Ahr i love JJ Adeneuer Kleine Kammer. Or the Rosenthal GG. Another big favorite are the wines from Benedikt Baltes, who used the be in Franken. Amazing wines with great complexity’ he moved to his wifes winery and now they make Baltes-Bertram in the Ahr. Geil winery in the Rheinhessen makes great priced wines. Especially their Früburgunders. Also a tip to get some make a tasting line-up: Früburgunder. Or Austrian Pinot Noirs deserve some love too :-)
Nice tasting! I have really enjoyed Spätburgunder on the few occasions I have tried one in Australia - they are not easy to find. Ziereisen is the only producer I have tried so far.
Excellent video, thank you!
I’m living in Düsseldorf and it is surprisingly difficult to find some of the better Spärburgunders here (it’s a lot of of lower end Knipser, Klump etc which can be a grippy struggle). So these recommendations were very helpful!
gotta start buying online mate
I think my favourite German Pinot is still in my cellar and I do not know which one it is yet because I have not opened the right bottle so far, but I really like the ones from Ziereisen.
Apart from that I came to the idea that it might be interesting to do a video on filtration. When you were talking about that it came to my mind that I once heard that someone did a study (I think in Geisenheim) that found out that filtered wines taste better because you do not only remove flavours people like but also a lot of stuff people don't like. This also matches to the result of a big blind tasting I remember which was done with filtered and unfiltered whiskies where the filtered ones were rated better also. So maybe filtration is not that bad but to check this could be a topic for another of your videos combined with a small experiment on this. Just a suggestion.
However, thanks for telling us about some of the best German pinots (and now I have to win an inner fight not to enter my cellar and open one of my best bottles just because I saw some really good ones in your video).
Holy Moly! Those prices!!! Last time I drank spätburgunder in Germany a 30 euro bottle seemed a splurge. That was 15 years ago, but still holy moly!!
He has chosen the pricey Variants from the makers.
Meyer Nakel also has a really nice 17€ Pinot Noir.
Also I Question the prices cause they are in US Dollar I want to know the original Euro prices...
When I was at Baden and Kaiserstuhl wine region, a few wineries stood out for me. Heinrich Mannle, Dr. Heger, alexander labile, and Weingut Pix (by some young energetic folks)
Really enjoyed this. I’ve just tastes wines from Salwey and Huber. I tastes Salwey RS and Henkenberg and Huber Malterdinger.
The Huber really is my favorite.
hopefully you do those kind of tastings more often. Ofc I also like the videos on the more modern topics but never forget to also do German wine videos please :-)
Hey Konstantin, I love your videos and have learned a lot! I was thinking, could you make a video of different Beaujoluis Cuvees, as they still seem to be underestimated and underpriced, the quality is there, wines like Morgon, Fleurie, Julienas and Moulin-a-Vent etc :) cheers!
you should taste spätburgunder (and other pinot noir) rosé's on your channel! i was introduced to pinot noir rosé at a restaurant wine pairing and I really liked it, but don't know much about it. would love to see you talk about it :)
Aha! Thank you, my friend!
what an amazing educational journey! how about finding and tasting wines from the less traditional/known countries/regions? can be an interesting journey too
I am absolutely loving Bernhard Huber wines! Thanks for sharing your opinion on this particular wine from their winery. 🍷
tasted the spanier range @ millésime bio, great wines, and very interesting Pinot, to me the Kreuz from KG was a step ahead, with less oak and a fresher side, more austere, almost Gevrey like :) altogether those German Pinot are a real treat in that 25 / 50 Euros range ! Wunderbar :)
I've only had one (Wasem Spaetburgunder ~20 USD) but I really liked it. Looking forward to tracking down some of the names on this list!
Love the video. Where I live in US there is really almost no selection for German reds. I see more Dornfelder than PN. I do have some Hofgut Falkenstein lying around which I will have to try soon.
Fav: Frühburgunder from Herr & Frau Lüttmer in Saale-Unstrut!
The best spätburgunder I have tried is probably Philipp Kuhn Kirschgarten GG 2015. Super good stuff. A bit on the heavier side with a bit of new wood, very tasty.
Recently tried the 2018 Philipp Kuhn Spätburgunder Tradition which I thought provided excellent value =)
Interesting to watch your different videos in particular the German wines which I have been exploring and visiting quite a lot over last couple of years. And yes Keller is also high on my wanted list ;)
Besides Keller, what about Gutzler, very feminin and elegant.
I agree that Meyer N. from Ahr is good but I find Jean Stodden among the best I have come across and would expect it to appear in the Line up? The neighbour to Knipser, Philip Kuhn makes very good pinots and not least value! I’m among others looking forward going to Kaiserstuhl during Easter. Cheers
I hope I will taste german Pinot soon and of course one of top producers. Thanks for the guidance in the topic
German Austrian rotwein is underrated in many ways. Zweigelt, spätburgunder. Some of the most vibrant and opulent wines I've drunk.
It would be great for a video on Swiss wine (they get so little attention). The Pinot Noir from Graubünden is amazing, easily up there with the best in the world. My local Pinot Noir in Luzern is also fantastic. Maybe a comparison of "German - speaking" Pinot would be fun to do.
psssst please no. we like to drink them ourselves....
Beautiful selection, would love to see a deep dive on Georgian whites as I've recently gotten into some rkatsiteli and mtsvane, curious to see your take on some of these wines, chin chin!
Great suggestion!
Friedrich Becker is by far my favorite winemaker, they produce amazing wines that taste just the way I like it ❤️
none of them are tasted here though ? Is there
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@@Jaennel missed it... half bottle , could not see it :)
Agree I used to sell wines for Rudi Wiest.
I really enjoyed this video - I was not aware that Germany was one of the top producers of Pinot Noir. Although I live in the Willamette Valley in Oregon, I have never been a huge fan of Pinot. I must admit that I am curious to revisit my bias and reconsider Pinot - if I can find one of these (except the $800 bottle) I would be interested to try several of them. I think the one I would like to try if I can find it is the, 2018 August Kesseler Assmannshäuser Höllenberg Spätburgunder GG.
Great Video Konstantin. Would really like to see the Great German Pinots Affordable Version. BTW this tasting videos are the best!
Thank you!
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine I have to agree with @kiketabarventura, a selection of German Pinot Noir in the €15 - €30 range would be more beneficial.
Another fantastic video, Ive been listening to John Szabo MS over the years and Ive read his book on volcanic wines. It would be interesting to listen to your thoughts on that subject in a future video. Side note, I have Salway pinot noir and a pinot gris in my cellar that now I'm very eager to try. Thanks again for the great content.
Seconded for John Szabo! One of the best wine minds out there
I just bought the book!
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine oh wow!
Nice content - sehr erfreut
🤩🤩🤩🤩 Meine Lieblingsrebsorte
I happened to be drinking a Pinot noir from Baden.
I'm sooo jealous of you! I love Spätburgunders but they're so damn hard to find!
Thank you, great video. I think the wines of Hanspeter Ziereisen like Jaspis Pinot Noir Zipsin trocken would fit very well into this selection especially since the wines are also rated very high by Jances Robinson but also from my experience
Yes, they are very good
What a GREAT selection. I love German Spätburgunder. Great choice on Fürst, Keller, Meyer Nakel, and Bernhard Hubert. I'm also a huge fan of Stodden and JB Becker. The Furst Centgrafenburg is one of the best German Pinot Noirs I've tasted... Cheap thrills for me... I wrote an article on German Pinot Noir and now it's linked on Wikipedia Pinot Noir page hahaha
Thanks Matthew
will you ever test some STURM? i love Sturmsaison and can't get enough gastrointestinal irritation 😂 no wine channel shows anything but red white and rose or sparkling wines. it would be nice to get some Harzwein from Greece, or rare old autochthonous wines like the bulgarian Mavrud. Sturm or wines made out of wild berries like Himbeere or fruitwines! also honeywines 😋 thank you Konstantin you're always a pleasure to watch. I know what i want is probably not very seeked out for by viewers and its probably a bad business decision to make a video about as these are harder to get and the interest isn't there, but a man can dream (=
lieben Gruß Meister!
Looking for a video of yours trying and rating Portuguese wines :)
WOW expensive episode and great episode. Thanks for that. Could you maybe make on with great Spätburgunder wines, but some you now to be good for the price? And meybe shutout barrique.
Great video and selection Konstantin! Do you may be have any online wine stores carrying such German wines to suggest that would deliver to EU?
Living in Germany, I've had the pleasure of many German Spätburgunders over the years... though never the Keller ;-)
They're getting better all the time, but let's be honest it's not just the warmer climate, it's mainly that the new generation of winemakers are making them as red wines should be made: finally using malolactic fermentation.
I still have two magnums of Lergenmüller/Pfalz 1993, which contain some Cabernet Sauvignon. Last time I opened one it was excellent.
Good to see Knipser in the selection, one of the most adventurous of German winemakers, but no Holger Koch from Baden in the tasting??? He is the king of Pinot Noir (and for that matter Weißburgunder) in Germany for me.
There hasn’t been any German Premium red wine over the past 40 years, that hasn’t gone through Malo. That’s just not how the chemistry in the cellar works. This happens pretty much automatically, as red wines are always fermented > 25°C.
So that’s that.
In reality, it’s ripeness, proper burgundy clones and expensive wood, which is way better integrated today than in the past.
Also Koch is clearly not the king of Pinot. Not by a long shot or by any margin. In Baden that would be Huber and has been for 30 years.
Also Knipser is one of germanys most Baroque/Classic wineries. Are you sure you’re living in Germany?
@@feelinggrape Thank God I have er, something like you, to put me right.
Nice video
I am going to Germany in few days will test Pinot’s for sure
Also if you recommend any thing to try while I am there
Great job Konstantin
Have you done a video on Sicilian wines?
Nice selection, you can never taste all, but in my opinion, a few more wineries should be mentioned, inside and outside the VPD:
Ziereisen: Jaspis Pinot Noir (Baden), Molitor: Brauneberger Klostergarten*** (Mosel), Ökonomierat Rebholz: Siebeldinger im Sonnenschein (Pfalz), Jean Stodden: Recher Herrenberg (Ahr), Bernhard Koch: Hainfelder Letten (Pfalz), Schnaitmann: Simonroth Spätburgunder (Württemberg).
Super Video! Bin nur etwas überrascht das die Rings Brüder und Christmann nicht in deiner Auswahl dabei sind. Bitte mehr solcher Video!
Too much great wine, not enough time!
Hi! I am one of person who requested recommend German pinot noir, "sputburgunder" at the instagram. Appreciate making the video. It is difficult to find German pinot noir in South Korea, anyhow let me try German pinot noir from your recommendations. Would you please new episodes for reasonable pinot noir and rieing as well as sekt?
Wow, lots of information in that video to unpack, will have to watch it a few times more. Question: purely from lookng at the map, the Ahr looks so remote and marginal. What makes it so special/ ideal to grow Spatburgunder there? Also one observation, it felt like you were rushing a bit to get all the info out there, I wished you had taken a bit more time with each wine. In any case, super informative vid and i will seek out more spatburgunder in my local market! Alles gute!
2/3 of the Ahr vineyards are planted to Pinot. The steep Slate vineyards are great for the variety
The answer is: MICROCLIMATE! The steep southwest - southeast facing slopes have a Mediterranean climate that permits the northern most growing region for red wines.
Dear Konstantin, have you ever tasted / reviewed the PN's from your colleague Master of Wine Jurgen Von der Mark? Thanks for all the inspiring videos!
Hei Konstantin, what wine from the slopes of the Neckar river would you suggest to try ?
They look awesome. If you get a chance to try Atarangi ‘Mc Crone’ Pinot New Zealand. I would love to hear your opinion:)
Thanks @Konstantin Baum for doing this video. This is something I am excited and curious about. Not too long ago, my Japanese friend brought a Spätburgunder to a BYOB dinner. That's the first time I tasted Pinot Noir from Germany and it is surprisingly good. It was a Wasenhaus Spätburgunder 2018 from Baden. Unfortunately, where I was based, it is not easy to find Spätburgunder in Singapore. And Wasenhaus was only brought in small numbers and it no longer can be found in Singapore. So let me know how you find the Wasenhaus Spätburgunder if you can find it in Germany.
In another BYOB of Pinot Noir theme, we have 22 Pinot Noirs (19 from Burgundy - Village, Premier Cru & Grand Cru, 2 from Oregon, USA, 1 from Rheingau, Germany). Let's just say the J.B. Becker Wallufer Walkenberg Spätburgunder Spätlese Trocken 2018 is the weakest in the whole 22 lineup. My German friend who is based in Singapore, commented after tasting the Spätburgunder, that Germans should just stick to producing Riesling.
So this is why I am curious how other Spätburgunder perform, since it is close to impossible to get Spätburgunder in my country.
Are you based in Singapore? Wein & vin brings in a decent amount of Spatsburgunder. I've been buying Huber from them. They also have Furst, Battenfeld, Kuhling & Rings... amongst many others.
Nice line-up👍🏻 I miss Fritz Waßmer, Schlatt, Baden - e.g. Spätburgunder Kaiserberg👍🏻
I got into a lot of trouble with Spatsburgunder. Played pass the pigs with it. Parents were not happy. I had to buy them a half case to replace it. The happy part was when I gave a bottle to my future father in law. Suddenly the lad he didn’t select for the county team, was ok to date his daughter. Happy times.
I did not know there was any red wine from Germany. I need to try some of these. I really enjoy German wines.
I love the Gutswein "B" from Friedrich Becker/Pfalz. Great price/value-ratio, you would believe it is at least an Ortswein.
My favourite at the moment is Reichsrat von Buhl Suez 2015 :)
Amazing video Konstantin 👍 I’m quite interested in tasting more of the german Pinot’s, but struggle to find them on Danish re-sellers. Where do you buy German reds and are you aware of a shop that would ship to DK? Thanks!
Thanks. You can find most of them on Lobenberg, Hawesko, Vicampo... some wineries would also ship them out to you directly.
Thanks for the tips Konstantin! I will definitely investigate :)
Have not tasted much spätburgunder. Some of them are heavily oaked. I find these cold-climate Spätburgunder better after an hour of aeration, more fruit flavors. Knipser is elegant and very fresh. It just prompts you for another sip. However, the price is high, like US$100 and over in asia. Maybe the markup is too steep (importer/distributor?)
I wish these were more commonly available in North America. German red is difficult to find in Canada. I’m inspired to hunt some down now, though.
I’m putting together a pinot and Cab tasting for family/friends soon and was curious if you’d be willing to suggest 3 pinots and 3 cabs from Napa/Sonoma that you would say are good expression of each varietal.
August Kesseler Cuvée Max 2013 and KnipserX 2009 are prob the best Pinots from Germany i tried.
Fascinating review. Can I find some of these in tokyo ?
What do you do with all these open bottles? Do you have people over after to drink, or you drink them throughout the week?
Have you tried the Pinot Noirs from Franz Keller? I really like the cooler style.
Yes!
How do you finish the bottles when you open so many in a tasting?
Good selection but the question again is what do you do with the open bottles? Surely you dont throw the wine away. I lived in Freiburg for a while but only had very few good Spätburgunder. Though, most of them far below the price points you mentioned. I like the reds of Ziereisen and Huber.
Drink, share and pour away. Depends on the wine. Ziereisen is also great
Silly practical question: When you open this many wines for great video like this how the heck do you keep them fresh for finishing later? Do you just drink them over the coming days, give them to neighbors, use them in tastings your doing or how? Really puzzles me 😅.
Definitely got to try more German Pinot’s!
My neighbor like me ... a lot!
When you do a large tasting, what happens to all the open bottles?
What crockscrew are you using?
ich hab nur eine frage... wieso kein coravin? Was hast du denn danach mit den ganzen offenen Flaschen gemacht? VG aus Hamburg