@@GregSummersMusic weird comment bc this is honestly a great vid analysis. I've been kind of working at this riff for a year and a half and still can't make it swing/gallop without a lot of effort and tension. You need to get to a high level of alternate picking with ease. It's one thing to play fast notes cleanly, and another level of skill is to put a groove onto it.
@@guyincognito320 haha yea it was weird for sure. I think he just wanted to drop in and troll the video. I’m glad you got something out of it though. :-)
@@guyincognito320 I'm sure you've probably seen this, but watching Jacob's fluidity, looseness and just getting into the song vs. trying too hard is what has really helped me to finally get it. th-cam.com/video/pA4ko8Qf0-s/w-d-xo.html
Hey man, thanks for watching my video! Yeah like Jeff Rupert said below, its kinda impossible to REALLY play EVH stuff to a click... its near sacrilege! Maybe we can all work together to further decode the greatness of EVH. Cheers.
Hey Ben! I sure hope that this video didn’t come across negatively (I’m sure it may seem this way). By no means did I want to portray that you weren’t playing it correctly. Yes the click makes perfect sense. You provide a great service to the community and we all look up to the efforts you put in. I’m sure you can appreciate what it takes to build the channel in the beginning organically...which is near impossible. Keep doing great work. Your transcriptions are spot on and I’m sure you play it like him without the click. Teaching is tough for sure.
@@GregSummersMusic no offense taken at all! The depth of Eddie's swing is the real deal, that's whats so hard to nail. I think i play it almost like a triplet feel, where my down is on "TRI" and my up is on "LET", and the way Eddie plays is more like sextuplet-based. playing the first and last notes of a sextuplet, so that upstroke is coming that much later in each beat. At the insane speed of this tune, feeling that subdivision is absolutely ridiculous, but that's the magic of the VH brothers!
Ben Eller yep I think you are right. Honestly I’m not very good at tackling most of their other stuff with the swing feel. It’s very hard for me and some solos are very unscripted like hot for teacher. Get up is another one that comes to mind.
It’s crazy that this video is 4 years old and I’m just now seeing it and yes Ben Eller & Marty 5150, both pick VH apart, I can sit and talk about guitar and jam out all day every day, I hope you are still doing video’s. I’m 56 Y.O. Steam fitter but on my off time I noodle & shred it up be looking for your next vid.. ✌🏽✌🏽✌️✌🏿
I read somewhere that a reporter pressed Ed to explain his influence, and he said "I gave rock a shot in the arm". Considering it was 1978, he sure did. This tune is far more bad ass than even Eruption. I like your tone in this video!
Good point about Eruption. If anyone ever asks me what a good VH song to introduce themselves to the band I would point them to I'm The One, not Eruption.
Here’s another issue with the feel....when I did the backing track for Ben, I did it to a click. That is something EVH didn’t do, as his BPM varied on the record by 4-5 BPM. Ben and I conceded to doing it this way for simplicity’s sake, but your “feel” comment is spot on. Keep up the good work!
I hope I was able to add to Ben’s video rather than detract. He does awesome work. I just watched an old VH interview and they were talking about playing to a click (against it). They felt it was cheating in a sense...kind of like not playing their own parts. I can see his point although so many people do it in the studio today for various reasons...including myself. I can see where it can take away feel, though.
Greg Summers songs like I’m The One and Barroom Boogie by Y&T are perfect examples of no click, get the feel right. I mean tape warble could account for a couple of BPM, but I’m The One varies from 114 to 121 during the intro, for example. Hell, at the end of day, who cares! It is what makes you tap your foot (or bang your head, though I can’t anymore due to arthritis in my spine LOL) and listen to a song again and again.
Ben had some more mistakes but who cares. If you learn it the Ben way you still will sound killer playing Im the One. Eddie messes around a little more so not every note in the same run is the exact same. If you slow the isolated guitartrack down you hear what I mean. Also im almost 100% sure that he should have doubled the run on the G string and not the B string in the thing he called the 'VH rubbish' lick. An example of a great player who has that Eddie feel down is Pete Thorn. He can do it! Both you and Ben keep up the good work!
@@dohoeijmans2432 Agreed! We are lucky to have so many resources out there to learn stuff and it doesn't really matter in the end how you play it, as long as you are playing. ;-)
Great content, really appreciate the time you took to make this video. I've been struggling with getting the groove down to this song intro and this has really helped. Nice chops at the end too!!
Great work - Greg! I started playing it in 1982 - but there was no way to get it done at that time even with an adjustable tape recorder. First time I heard it on the music fair in Frankfurt, from an Guitar Teacher and I was flashed. I am just wondering that you can skip from a differently accentuated playing this easy - for me it is more feeling the rythm....
I think it's funny that Eddie said when he was preparing for the 2012 tour, that he had to find out how to play some of these older songs. He had forgotten how to play them, and ended up having to do what everyone else had to do to figure out how to play his songs!
0:16 How the hell did anyone figure out how to play these parts back in the day? I guess you had to have a tape machine that could be slowed down to half speed.
TTT Prank Calls yea maybe. I was pretty good at rewinding or adjusting the record needle when I was younger. The old 4 track recorders helped as well, but yea similar things with vocal autotune as well. Singers back in the studio just had to sing in key ;-) now they can do their best and “we’ll fix it in post”
Cool 🎥...well done. No steady crescendo,,, a swingy gallop slightly muted. You nailed it,,,not many can get it near right at speed !! Nice guitar too 💘 🎸 🎧🎼🎵🎶
To be completely fair Ben was showing the part very slowly from a tempo standpoint. He’s in the comments here somewhere. Sometimes you gotta make a catchy title so people will actually watch your video so there’s some of that with mine here lol. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
it's like Daaagy Daaagy Daaagy DaaagyDaaagy Daaagy Daa daaaa. I think we have to absorve this A string alone shuffle before adding the other notes to get it, But really, i haven't seem ANYONE playing this riff correctly, ever.
@@GregSummersMusic the shuffle secret yes !, but i hear the D strings notes (A and G) more separated from the A open string, i don't hear them overlaying each other on the original
@@GregSummersMusic i'm being picky about your playing :-) deliberately looking for problems (and trouble XD). the video went exactly in the core problem i've seen in youtube covers of this song. the shuffle particularities.
I'm the One covers are *not* authentic w/out nailing this shuffle/swing, and those of us w/VH burned in the brain from '78 onwards know it, feel it. sense it, smell it. Great addition to all the I'm the One lessons elsewhere from Uncle Ben etc.
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Such an informative comment, Marco, and we all eagerly await your video explanation
@@GregSummersMusic weird comment bc this is honestly a great vid analysis. I've been kind of working at this riff for a year and a half and still can't make it swing/gallop without a lot of effort and tension. You need to get to a high level of alternate picking with ease. It's one thing to play fast notes cleanly, and another level of skill is to put a groove onto it.
@@guyincognito320 haha yea it was weird for sure. I think he just wanted to drop in and troll the video. I’m glad you got something out of it though. :-)
@@guyincognito320 I'm sure you've probably seen this, but watching Jacob's fluidity, looseness and just getting into the song vs. trying too hard is what has really helped me to finally get it. th-cam.com/video/pA4ko8Qf0-s/w-d-xo.html
Hey man, thanks for watching my video! Yeah like Jeff Rupert said below, its kinda impossible to REALLY play EVH stuff to a click... its near sacrilege! Maybe we can all work together to further decode the greatness of EVH. Cheers.
Hey Ben! I sure hope that this video didn’t come across negatively (I’m sure it may seem this way). By no means did I want to portray that you weren’t playing it correctly. Yes the click makes perfect sense. You provide a great service to the community and we all look up to the efforts you put in. I’m sure you can appreciate what it takes to build the channel in the beginning organically...which is near impossible. Keep doing great work. Your transcriptions are spot on and I’m sure you play it like him without the click. Teaching is tough for sure.
@@GregSummersMusic no offense taken at all! The depth of Eddie's swing is the real deal, that's whats so hard to nail. I think i play it almost like a triplet feel, where my down is on "TRI" and my up is on "LET", and the way Eddie plays is more like sextuplet-based. playing the first and last notes of a sextuplet, so that upstroke is coming that much later in each beat. At the insane speed of this tune, feeling that subdivision is absolutely ridiculous, but that's the magic of the VH brothers!
Ben Eller yep I think you are right. Honestly I’m not very good at tackling most of their other stuff with the swing feel. It’s very hard for me and some solos are very unscripted like hot for teacher. Get up is another one that comes to mind.
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. So many covers of this song don't swing enough. You nailed it.
Thank you so much and thanks for leaving a comment!
Oh yeah, that rhythm is the closest to the album I've heard - thank you so much for posting. I've been chasing this crazy song for years...
Nicely done. This track has some serious groove to it..you gotta find that ‘sweet spot’ and ride with it
Yes sir!
It’s crazy that this video is 4 years old and I’m just now seeing it and yes Ben Eller & Marty 5150, both pick VH apart, I can sit and talk about guitar and jam out all day every day, I hope you are still doing video’s. I’m 56 Y.O. Steam fitter but on my off time I noodle & shred it up be looking for your next vid.. ✌🏽✌🏽✌️✌🏿
I read somewhere that a reporter pressed Ed to explain his influence, and he said "I gave rock a shot in the arm". Considering it was 1978, he sure did. This tune is far more bad ass than even Eruption. I like your tone in this video!
Good point about Eruption. If anyone ever asks me what a good VH song to introduce themselves to the band I would point them to I'm The One, not Eruption.
Here’s another issue with the feel....when I did the backing track for Ben, I did it to a click. That is something EVH didn’t do, as his BPM varied on the record by 4-5 BPM. Ben and I conceded to doing it this way for simplicity’s sake, but your “feel” comment is spot on. Keep up the good work!
I hope I was able to add to Ben’s video rather than detract. He does awesome work. I just watched an old VH interview and they were talking about playing to a click (against it). They felt it was cheating in a sense...kind of like not playing their own parts. I can see his point although so many people do it in the studio today for various reasons...including myself. I can see where it can take away feel, though.
Greg Summers songs like I’m The One and Barroom Boogie by Y&T are perfect examples of no click, get the feel right. I mean tape warble could account for a couple of BPM, but I’m The One varies from 114 to 121 during the intro, for example. Hell, at the end of day, who cares! It is what makes you tap your foot (or bang your head, though I can’t anymore due to arthritis in my spine LOL) and listen to a song again and again.
Ben had some more mistakes but who cares. If you learn it the Ben way you still will sound killer playing Im the One. Eddie messes around a little more so not every note in the same run is the exact same. If you slow the isolated guitartrack down you hear what I mean. Also im almost 100% sure that he should have doubled the run on the G string and not the B string in the thing he called the 'VH rubbish' lick.
An example of a great player who has that Eddie feel down is Pete Thorn. He can do it!
Both you and Ben keep up the good work!
@@dohoeijmans2432 Agreed! We are lucky to have so many resources out there to learn stuff and it doesn't really matter in the end how you play it, as long as you are playing. ;-)
This is great, the VH shuffle!
Thank you for this, I knew I was missing something in the timing and you showed me what it is, I appreciate it :)
Awesome good to hear!
Good lesson brother Greg! Thanks for posted the preset and Merry Christmas!!
HamsterSpanks Merry Christmas!!!
I don't know if it's "correct" or not but starting the riff on the A string with an upstroke makes this much more playable for me
Great content, really appreciate the time you took to make this video. I've been struggling with getting the groove down to this song intro and this has really helped. Nice chops at the end too!!
Glad I could help!
You are so right, its just very hard to get a shuffle going as vicious as Eddies!
Great work - Greg!
I started playing it in 1982 - but there was no way to get it done at that time even with an adjustable tape recorder. First time I heard it on the music fair in Frankfurt, from an Guitar Teacher and I was flashed. I am just wondering that you can skip from a differently accentuated playing this easy - for me it is more feeling the rythm....
Great lesson, thanks Greg
You are welcome! Thanks for watching
I think it's funny that Eddie said when he was preparing for the 2012 tour, that he had to find out how to play some of these older songs. He had forgotten how to play them, and ended up having to do what everyone else had to do to figure out how to play his songs!
0:16 How the hell did anyone figure out how to play these parts back in the day? I guess you had to have a tape machine that could be slowed down to half speed.
TTT Prank Calls yea maybe. I was pretty good at rewinding or adjusting the record needle when I was younger. The old 4 track recorders helped as well, but yea similar things with vocal autotune as well. Singers back in the studio just had to sing in key ;-) now they can do their best and “we’ll fix it in post”
Cool 🎥...well done. No steady crescendo,,, a swingy gallop slightly muted. You nailed it,,,not many can get it near right at speed !! Nice guitar too 💘 🎸 🎧🎼🎵🎶
Thank you!
You definitely got it correct. I noticed the same thing...Ben didn’t have the gallop correct.
To be completely fair Ben was showing the part very slowly from a tempo standpoint. He’s in the comments here somewhere. Sometimes you gotta make a catchy title so people will actually watch your video so there’s some of that with mine here lol. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
nobody swings like the KING! oB
it's like
Daaagy Daaagy Daaagy DaaagyDaaagy Daaagy Daa daaaa.
I think we have to absorve this A string alone shuffle before adding the other notes to get it,
But really, i haven't seem ANYONE playing this riff correctly, ever.
Danilo Briz haha well did I play it correctly? 😆
@@GregSummersMusic the shuffle secret yes !, but i hear the D strings notes (A and G) more separated from the A open string, i don't hear them overlaying each other on the original
Well I’ll take that. I’m no Eddie that’s for sure ;-) thanks for the comment
@@GregSummersMusic i've been trying to get this riff correctly for quite some time and i've failed until now, i hope i get it some day.
@@GregSummersMusic i'm being picky about your playing :-) deliberately looking for problems (and trouble XD).
the video went exactly in the core problem i've seen in youtube covers of this song. the shuffle particularities.
I'm the One covers are *not* authentic w/out nailing this shuffle/swing, and those of us w/VH burned in the brain from '78 onwards know it, feel it. sense it, smell it. Great addition to all the I'm the One lessons elsewhere from Uncle Ben etc.
Thanks Richard. He was the one and only for sure. Truly unique.
Awesome bro, are u going to share this preset?
Art Sal here you go axechange.fractalaudio.com/detail.php?preset=6626
Greg Summers thanks happy holidays
Good stuff. And you got a sub!! And your reference to Ben Elmer is deserved!!! Keep it up!!! I like it anyways!!!
k.t. robinson much appreciated!
Nobody swung like Eddie - what happens when you reverse the ups and downs? Interesting things happen.
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It’s ZZ Top played faster by a master to me! Blues feel.
That was not it. But that first part yes
sorry...you just don't have "it"...not many do...so no worries.
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