How do you help someone who don't want help? There are MANY people who like that they have no responsibility, bills, or anything else tying them down. They live the ability to travel and see the country. You're assuming that these are victims because you don't approve of their life style. As someone who has been homeless. Trust me tossing money at this issue will fix nothing. Because there are millions of people who don't want a home.
@@usagifang what conclusion did you come up with to call them a trumptard? Weird insult and proof of idiocy of someone that disagrees with whats right.
@@TheDarkoricle Quite ironic how you target them based on them talking shit about Trump, then go on to say "oh well the guy they insulted was right tho" kinda hypocritical. Yeah, why don't I agree with a guy who unironically believes that people don't want homes. You know? Because logic.
Same happened in Sydney, the city councils decided to make outdoors seats and bus stop areas as uncomfortable for homeless people as possible. Added unnecessary arm rests and lumpy gaps. Yet the root cause of homelessness is never addressed. Often mental health issues going on.
I was homeless in NYC several years ago. I'm a veteran and was in a horribly violent situation. I escaped, but I'll NEVER forget my time in the cold, flagging, holes in my shoes and bruises on my body. Sheer insanity!!! Thank you for posting this! ❤❤❤
I remember that meme where it was like "cutting homeless people in half by 2022" and people were joking about the wording. Ney York would physically cut homeless in half if they could legally get away with it lol.
@@Voltaphonic it was by the artist fokawolf, he puts up loads of fake posters around birmingham. You'll always spot one any time you go into digbeth especially.
I honestly don't think that's the purpose for these designs. Some of the homeless would stay homeless if they had an apartment to go to, it's a mental disorder. I'm sure there are residential buildings where families prefer not to walk out to a drugged-up herd of homeless out their front door. I get having compassion for the homeless, but it goes both ways.
@@Jkief123 of course, but I'm sure the general majority are not enjoying homelessness. Of course we get that, but homelessness is a debilitating situation to be in and we would be doing a better job trying to get those we can help out of it rather than dealing with the un-comfortability of seeing them. One is dealing with the root cause whilst the other is like a band-aid on a festering sore (just cosmetic really solves nothing).
@@Jkief123 yeah, maybe we should just let them die instead of helping them rehabilitate. There's a lot money can do, you just have to be smart about it.
The most infuriating aspect is that these things cost more than a normal vent covers / benches. The same applies to all the other so-called "hostile architecture" installments. So, not only are the people who install them refusing to help the poor, they actually pay money to make their life even more miserable. Therefore, i refer to those things not as "hostile architecture" but as "sadistic architecture".
Local authorities spend vastly, vastly more money in punishing homeless people for simply existing than they ever would do if they did anything to help accommodate and help them move out of their situation.
Wow! I would have thought solving the homeless problem would be complicated and difficult but apparently it's as simple as "hurt them until they either die or go somewhere else." Genius work, NYC!
I really do not enjoy it when I exit a building or my car and being confronted by some panhandler. I once was confronted by this person for money. I have a strict rule, I don’t give money to panhandlers. I told one guy, go to the local mission. He said they won’t help me. I don’t carry money nowadays.
@@NeilCWCampbell look I’m one person, I can’t fix it! This is a government matter but they don’t care. Many are on drugs, catch the dealers. I lost a brother to the streets, I don’t know the details. I always had that feeling of my brother being a victim. He enjoyed living that lifestyle. Like I said, I’m one person on social security, I’m not well off. This is a problem the government has to fix.
The best part of this is that, despite however many millions this somehow cost, it isn’t going to stop anyone. A couple of blankets or a few pieces of cardboard plus a bit of positioning is all it takes to overcome that. Plus if you’re actually freezing, a little discomfort is not a problem.
You’re crazy $1000?? The design fees alone for the drafting and development gotta be several thousand. Actually producing it probably over a thousand for like 10 feet of it
@@TH-camCommenter7402when the government is paying the winning design will usually be someone involved with the committee choosing the design and suddenly a £10,000 ,design is valued as 1 000 000
@@TH-camCommenter7402the cost of labor alone to build one of these is easily over $1k. Add an additional $1k minimum for installation. Then add hundreds of thousands for R&D, hundreds of thousands for permits & licensing, hundreds of thousands to hire an attorney to draft necessary paperwork, and that is just the tip of the iceberg. This would easily cost $10 million as a city-wide project
@@sixfeetundertheradar6080 dude in my new apartment that I'm watching for my brother cause people keep breaking in, I found a full on twin sized grocery bag mattress and it was the coolest thing I've seen in a while. Some serious ingenuity!
Being a veteran myself (along with my son and grandfather), why should WE get taken care of but people who DIDN'T serve not get taken care? We're all humans. There are shitty veterans, good veterans, shitty homeless veterans, and good homeless veterans. ALL veterans get lifetime benefits. The VAST majority of homeless veterans could get a permanent and total unemployability rating and receive $4,000+ PER MONTH, TAX FREE, that includes free public transportation, discounts, and in some states pay no property taxes, and more but they refuse to go through with VA evaluation because most homeless "veterans" are either dishonorably discharged and ineligible for benefits or they have a mental illness and are not wanting help. We need to treat everyone equally and stop putting certain groups on pedestals.
@@chadcoady9025It's hilarious how psychologically addicted people are now to try to help others then helping their own selves. People now are so dependent of others around them its mind blowing, just world of 5 year olds. I don't understand at all why it would be my responsibility to stop living my own life to help someone else's who can't even help themselves in anything. Yet people out there can't even help themselves in anything to begin with, therefore how are you supposed to help someone else? Only you can help yourself out of your own problems, not other's. If you're a so called grown human being and you still need to be held by the hand by others around you, you never had something that's called discipline and self dependence withing your life.
@@devo076What kind of a r-tard are you? This is a systemic problem in government level, not a problem of people not taking homeless into their own homes. You fukn chicken brain.
@@devo076 should that be the job of the people who have to choose rent or eating well a quarter of the time? Or should that be the job of the government who takes money for these issues, but handles them poorly, if at all?
@@thatscrazy6373 Did you just pull that out of your ass? The point of these structures are to get them off the streets and into to shelters and then on to secure housing. During covid they were spread out among hotels and shelters to stop the spread.
Right? I am so glad I am not the only one thinking about this. I would feel like I would sound pathetic if I said this. Imagine trying so hard to disadvantage someone's life. I do not get the point here.
I feel sorry for homeless people, but as much as I do I wouldn't be pleased if homeless people were camping on my doorstep. And alot of the time homeless people have addictions and leave alot of paraphernalia and mess behind. I've been homeless myself so I am speaking from experience obviously not all of them but alot. The real solution is to provide affordable/ free housing for them
I assume there are safety reasons why these vents can't be blocked, like, airflow needs to escape? I understand the compassion but I don't think it was just malice.
I was homeless in NYC for 4 years but after they installed these I decided to get an apartment. Now I'm back working and taking my medicine. Don't want to brag but making 6 figures!🥰
@@lad4830 the thing about the overpopulation myth is that it’s only a problem insofar as more people means more resources being consumed, and I don’t know if you noticed but homeless people don’t generally consume a lot of resources.
I can sort of see the logic of it. The vent is there for a reason; if the vents are covered by mattresses or cardboard, then it isn't a vent any more. You wouldn't install a vent or grill in your flat and design it in such a way that it was easy to block it would you! Having said that, there should be warm dry places for rough sleepers to shelter.
There are 39,000 vents in the city, many of them being unblockable already since they're hidden in fake facade buildings, I doubt it was any sort of blockage issue for the vent system. The MTA's stated reason was anti-flooding, which is why they're not flush with the sidewalk anymore, but they don't mention the hostile architecture features.
@@shelbyvillerules9962 I've not seen that before but I've seen people ignore homeless people when asked for food but then go throw leftover sandwiches to pigeons right after it's kinda messed up how they treat animals versus actual people
@@ReigoVassal I have a better idea. If all the socialists and corporatists politicians die, then there will be no more homelessness for generations to come.
I lived in Moscow for a year and at that time (not sure if they still do it now) in the winter they left the entrances to the metro open so peope could escape the cold at night. It was only the inital entrance area up to where you enter to buy tickets but it could've been a life saver in the Russian winter.
@@alanequi2786and no money, and no freedom of speech (wait Russian federation can't trashtalk their government so they still have no freedom of speech)
When I was young I was hired as a guard to keep people off the grates on my overnight shift on 7th avenue and 47 street. All they wanted to do is stay warm at 2am-4am, so I would allow them. People with kids, people alone, I mean so many people you wouldn't expect are homeless, the only deal I asked was to be gone by 4am and head to another spot, so my boss wouldn't catch em and fire me.
@@soggybreh810 Indeed. All the people who got kicked from their jobs and can't find new work too. Just find work! It's that easy. You are on the streets because you were laid off? Go get a job!
Thank you for speaking out on this. It disgusts me how the government and people in general view the homeless. They're STILL PEOPLE. No one wants to struggle to survive... not knowing when your next meal will be and being in harsh conditions with no shelter... People fail to realize that addiction, mental illness, and the cost of living are the root causes of homelessness. And it can happen to ANYONE. They're worthy of respect and basic human needs/rights just like anyone else.
Then they go " *just get a loan to buy a home and work the debt off* " Not really realizing what they suggest is essential impossible, or if it does work, then they'll never be able to pay it off and be basically working for the bank just paying off "interest".
There seems to be good money in homelessness, just not for the homeless. I bet that grate cost 25k to design, test, fabricate and install. I'd love to see who got the contract on that.
You can always round them up and ship them off to inturnment camps there they will be " off the streets" and the so called charity's can provide "Services" mental health screenings, employment training to become productive members of society, drug and alcohol treatment ehab and once they are "Clean & Sober" put them to work in factory or farm labor. Those found to be too mentally ill will be institutionalized for the "Greater Good of Society" How's *That* for a solution to the "homeless problum?"
@exposing truth Internment camp is also where they put American soldiers & American prisoners of war captured by the Imperial Japanese army during ww2 in basically hitler style concentration camp to torture and kill them...
In Nashville they started putting in wheelchair accessible benches. It’s like a bench but you cut out the middle of it… in all reality it’s really an anti homeless bench.
This might sound insensitive but I'm genuinely curious as to the purpose of "Wheelchair Accessible benches" are... because they're already sitting down in the wheel chair. Most of them are really comfortable a soft and have a hand brake of sorts... I don't know, I just don't see a use for it. Especially since it sounds like more effort for someone who lost the use of their legs to move to the bench from a wheelchair
@@geek4306 the only argument is if the bench has a rain/ sun cover over it otherwise they could have just put it at the end of the bench. or even at both ends.
@@geek4306 Honestly, I’m pretty sure it’s less of a comfortability thing and more of a relaxation type of thing. Sometimes they just want to get out of their wheelchairs to sit on a bench just for the satisfaction and relief. Now that shit where they literally cut holes in the sides of benches is kinda stupid.
@@H0DAX1 I can imagine that if they were with family, theyd want to maybe sit next to them or something, I don't know but making a gap in the middle sounds stupid
Fun story, there was a guy who was dedicated to creating affordable portable housing for the homeless in California and they shut it down for "not being safe to live in".
What the hell is an affordable portable house? That doesn't solve the problem at all. The problem was never that the homeless didn't have a roof over their head but that there were too many of them in the cities that the cities want to be able to permanently kick out.
@@GeorgeMonet if you have a roof and the assurance that your things won't be stolen from you it's easier to find a Job and start saving money to scape poverty. So yes, no having a home is a problem that keep homeless people homeless
It worked. Now there are more homeless people than ever. Oh wait... Maybe they whould actually go to the root causes of people being homeless. As it is not always the same issue, even though some people like to think there is. Sometimes it is mental illness or got hooked on drugs or they just had some bad luck thrown at them. It's not always the same issue.
We need itemized audits of where our money goes, from the federal to local levels. It’s ridiculous how we give our hard earned money to thieves in suits and never once request a receipt
Give? No friendo it’s at gun point. Don’t pay your taxes armed lawmen will come to your house and put you behind bars and if you so much as resist boom you got a gun in your face.
If I may shed a light on the perspective of the western "elites" which I have some personal "education" of their views on - they genuinely have no desire to ever fix the homeless problem because they don't view it as a problem but as a necessary evil, they don't want them dirtying up the main city streets but they do want them in the alleys and under the bridges and so forth, mostly out of sight but always a ghost in the background. They are realists who believe there will always be those that can't function in and will suffer in any society of any construct but capitalism is the best system for raising the common standards of living for all of society - and there must be 3 classes - upper, middle and lower. Survival of the fittest means those who have the drive, work ethic and ambition for it can elevate themselves to the middle class while the lower class is always there to scare them into keeping the middle class grind going. What is great about American capitalism is that with enough drive (or ruthlessness) anyone can potentially elevate themselves all the way into the upper class, it's not a closed club with entry only for those that are chosen by the royalty but rather anyone that can figure out how to make money can have money and buy an extraordinary standard of living in the upper echelon of society. That lack of motivation from combined fear and enticing reward is IMHO the main reason no "true" communist utopia has been achieved and why all attempts have fallen into generic authoritarianism - without the fear of poverty and/or the dream of wealth there's little to motivate people to keep up the daily grind to keep society chugging and so eventually it always leads to brainwashing and the constant fear of Big Brother lurking over your shoulders ready to punish you for a bad social credit score that keeps it going. When virtually all manual labor jobs can be done by machines,, which though huge strides are being made is still a ways off, then maybe that system could exist without the people having to do the grinding and thus lack of motivation is irrelevant, but theorizing of what could be is like counting the stars or grains of sand in an hourglass. Some day I bet Star Trek will come true and a perceived "utopia" will exist but till then human reality will never be as perfect as some want to imagine it, there's a reason the realists are largely at the top of every society regardless of ideology - human nature is a hard thing to change but simply accepting it can bring great wealth and power.
@@jonnygrey3497 while i don't believe that the youtube comments section is the best for debate, i respectfully disagree. Since you argue about realism, the idea that drive and ambition is what gets you up the ladder is false. Its actually opportunity, often in addition to money that does that. Money buys education, shelter, food, security and other basic necessities. Opportunity is created/seen when people have the luxury not to worry about the basics. So yes, while it is "realistic" that "we can't save 'em all", neither is spending money on yachts. So i respecty disagree that most people on top are realists.
@@jonnygrey3497 Capitalism is quite young. 300 years ago, if you were homeless in a city, you probably just died when winter came and there literally wasn't enough food to go around. Now, the homeless get to suffer instead. I would not be surprised if, in my lifetime, homeless people no longer suffer from lack of shelter/food. There's no fucking way capitalism right now is as good as it gets, not when it is so young in the grand scheme of the human species. Capitalism has changed substantially, and it will continue changing, hopefully improving. Some people are crazy and think that the world they grew up in is how the world will be forever. That's not realism. That's an excuse to ignore the suffering of others. Or, an excuse to be lazy. If the world cannot get better, no use in thinking of how it can change, eh? Lazy!
@@charpkun Only being poor in a city makes you a homeless. In the countryside there will always be a place for you and ways to make a humble, but decent living. No lucusy and waste. Live simple clean.
Let's just drop agent orange across the country too, that will help with over population.. we are supposed to be helping the situation not worsening it
I’m going to quote a comedian who talked about this. It’s not homelessness it’s house less ness a home is a state of being a state of mind a home is a physical tangible Structure
@@mikel8850 "remember many homeless don't want to get helped". Where are you getting this from? The homeless population are overwhelmingly people with mental illness issues who NEED help....
@@mikel8850 my logic is perfectly fine. I literally quoted you, then made a statement pertaining to the broadest issue of homelessness in general. And no. I did not refute your point outside of your sweeping statement that most don't want to be helped because I agree with the rest of what you said. However I also have to disagree with berating people for raising issue with the air vents as it's just unnecessarily cruel on the homeless that might rely on such things as sources for heat as the help that we argue they do indeed need does not currently exist....
In France, they put (often) useless armrests on public benches, and I strongly suspect that those are against homeless people. Other than that, I've rarely seen things like that in France. But I've almost never been to big cities like Paris, maybe it's worse there.
@Lane AWD only way I could agree with housing for homeless people is if it has rules like no alcohol/drugs and you would have to have a job in 1-3 years.
They aren't trying to get rid of homelessness, they are trying to remove people causing an inconvience by having bulk people stand on property; Use common ense
Thank you! I work for Adult Protective Services in Florida. Homelessness in our elderly & vulnerable/disabled population is worse that anyone realizes & not being addressed. I have been following you & this made me subscribe.
I mean I understand why your angry but you have to think about the non homeless people who’ve been harassed by the homeless . These homeless have problems man 🤦🏽♂️. They harass a lot of people due drugs, envy, all sorts reasons. Heck some homeless people may rob people so I can’t call nyc terrible you know what I’m saying but the city should put there energy into helping the homeless rather than “evicting” the homeless but I do know you can’t just enable homeless people because it’ll lead to problems like Chicago for example. Chicago has a homeless people problem and it’s disgusting and filled with feces and pee. So you just can’t enable the homeless living near the communities nobody would want that in there neighborhoods.
@@vlahblah4785 wow. Thanks for using logic and critical thinking unlike 90% of the comments. Imagine paying 2200 or more a month in rent only to be harassed or assaulted by a crazy person that resides down on your side walk. That’s a good way to lose a whole lot of revenue. I feel for the mentally ill homeless but any other, if theirs a will theirs a way, like idk.. moving to an affordable city to build your life back up 🤷🏽♂️
@@anthonyfletcher8053 you've never experienced what they do and likely never will. You did not make yourself who you are today on your own. Be grateful and pay it forward.
@@ewokshoterz as someone who’s lived in nyc for a bit to study, i can say that it’s somewhat concerning seeing these people on the streets. Not only is it obviously bad for them, but it’s also bad for the people who live there. I’ve had pretty poor experiences with people, even when minding my own business. Especially if you refuse to give them something IF they ask, some people just shrug it off, others take it the wrong way. It’s also a cause for paranoia ngl, I’ve had someone follow me around for a bit before i got onto campus grounds. I know majority of homeless people aren’t that bad, but it’s the ones who do things like that who cause concern.
I suspect, that the vents are there for a reason and people clogging them is not exactly what they are made for. How do we fix problems? Who knows, trying to be a rolemodel(?). I was tortured myself, never anyone got held accountable and i donot feel like i ever going to integrate back into the society. The only consolation for me is the fact, that me dying is gonna be worth it for myself, like adios… liberation, freedom.
“No we can’t kill homeless people for being homeless.” “Fine! What if they freeze to death?” “We aren’t going to lock them in freezers!” “I have a better idea.” “Is it a war crime?” “Not the first time.”
My state governor just demoted the homeless shelter that had 500 rooms in 2019 for profiting income apartment by billionaire developers and left thousand homeless families frozen to death through the harsh winter. When we stands up to protest then we got arrested for "illegal late-night" or loitering, lol. Wasn't first they used police to kick them out when they have nowhere to go home to.
Now they can still place planks over the spikes underneath bridges as well as between those protrusions where the air can still come through and put cardboard on top of that then lay down to keep warm for where there is a Will there is a way.” Keep this in mind before you M.A.D. satanist get anymore ideas.”
This has actually a name: hostile architecture. Many places in-especially-big cities are designed to keep people away or at least to have them hang out for the shortest time possible.
I've noticed seating in some big name restaurants are the same. Pay for your food, eat, and gtfo. Well, I no longer pay for their food now, have fun paying the bills.
I don't see much hostile architecture in my area but, if I go to Houston or Dallas it becomes way more apparent. It is a poor plan and solves nothing and it generally implemented to hide a problem cheaply instead of addressing it. Also I don't like restaurants that use it in their seating as they generally have poor quality food and even worse service.
Property value jumps into my mind. Also half the poor are not homeless so much as jobless. The other half are dangerous. Half the poor myself included needs to figure something out...the other half tough shit. They sure as hell don't give a damn bout how u feel kiddo. Just saying.
@@BillAnt Homeless people eat good in America and have access to good drugs. Do you realize our homeless in America are better off than citizens in other countries?
@@NinjaSushi2 Yeah but also, they're homeless. I'm not sure why so many people like comparing countries to see which one is worse to justify the other one. Downplaying a serious problem helps no one.
I was homeless as a child. It’s almost unfathomable to believe bc my mother did such a wonderful job of making me feel normal despite homeless shelters. I cannot imagine the otherwise…
Defensive makes it sound like the city is under attack. Aggressive would be more accurate. The city is actively antagonizing the local homeless population.
@@TKnightcrawler how did you become aware of them in the first instance? I think the majority of people are almost completely unawares, based on 6 years or so living in London…
NYC: " I have an idea to help homelessness." Batman: "Oh." NYC: "We can hire them to install architecture all over the city." Batman: "Hmm like what kind of architecture?" NYC: "Like the kind that hurts"
@@doctorfeelgood2670 While it's certainly not the best comment of any sort, I would argue that it is not BY FAR the "most cringe" comment on TH-cam... I've seen some shit man
No no, it's not the country itself, but the city. Liberal politicians to be exact. You don't see this problem ANYWHERE that has a conservative governor.
@@thecomedypilot5894 because red states have way less people. NYC is extremely dense, which drives up land value, which increases homelessness. whenever conservatives are in charge of running major metropolitan areas instead of rural towns, its a disaster. if democrats were actually progressive they would implement the extremely successful anti-homelessness policies we see in countries like finland and denmark, but then low iq republicans would call it communism.
This is a “hostile architecture” perfect example, there’s plenty of documentation about these devices in urbanistics and sociology books. Humans can be so dishumans.
@@twistedgrillz7729 ok then what about the ones who are trying rise above the poverty line but are down on their luck at the moment? They too need a place to lay even for a moment.
What they need to do with the homeless, is build them homes. Pay for their food, pay their rent, and pay all their bills. Also, get them cars and cell phones and whatever stuff they need. Homelessness is never gonna go away. As long as people are free, people have the freedom to hit Rockbottom. And sometimes rock-bottom means being homeless,and addicted to drugs. Now that’s obviously not all of them, there’s a lot of sick, homeless, too. If you want to society, where people are really free, they need to have the ability to hit Rockbottom. If you don’t live in a society that doesn’t have rock-bottom, you live in a fantasy.
This falls under the category of "hostile design" and there are many examples of it, such as pigeon spikes, making surfaces that were flat sloped so people cant sit on it, and adding little brass bumps to short walls so skateboarders cant grind on them.
Some of your examples are perfectly fair. Not having pigeons perch in spots where they can shit on your patrons is pretty reasonable. Preventing skateboarders from grinding YOUR property is fine too. This is coming from someone who did grinds. Not all of these designs were made with malicious intent, so be careful what you use to make a point.
@@MrSatchelpack true, bit making the ground slope so people can't comfortably sit on the ground seems excessive. But idk maybe there's a situation where it's necessary?
this is called hostile architecture and it's actually quite common. Examples of hostile architecture include spikes under bridges, spikes in benches, removing benching areas, and much more.
@@kingding9542 This is the problem, even the guy who posted the video doesn't know or care about what that ventilation structure actually is, he's saying "i don't know it comes from subway or something". So do you think the engineers would design and drill and make this structure just because they have nothing else to do? That is a crucial engineering element of the system so if people were to block it it wouldn't function.
@@user-ou2md4nr4ywhile that might be true, this is just one of many examples, anti-homeless designs are everywhere, besides if they invested into making it work for both rather than yaknow, hate, they couldve solved it better.
This type of architecture is, in my mind, everything wrong about society. It is disgusting. It’s something that one would expect to see in a satire film.
@@virajgoonerarsenal8022 I mean, it's in there name. Who are we to take away the identity of a homeless person? If they're not homeless then what would they be? "Homed", it just dosen't have the same ring to it. Plus, if we actually fixed the homeless problem then how could I buy my second Yaht?
Ahhhh, but that's the problem. A lot of people want help but in their own way. No rules just give me what I want and keep the structured way of living you are trying to show me to yourself.
reminds me of that prison in texas that spent 10 years and over $20,000 defending a lawsuit from a wool-allergic prisoner that wanted a non-wool blanket instead of just buying him a non-wool blanket. continue to inflict suffering at any cost
@@creamycream7081 Unless I'm mistaken it sounds like they're arguing over the precedent of whether or not prisons have to make adjustments for the prisoner. It may have been cheaper but then it opens up up whole bag of worms for literally every other prisoner. Plus in this instance if the prisoner was allergic to the blanket they should've brought their own one. If they had no money they could've used alternatives, like the shedts I'm assuming they had no problem with, and worked to buy one that suited him. It certainly would've been cheaper on the prisoner's side if they ponied up for a lawyer to argue the point.
There should be money in that budget to create housing for the homeless. Other cities are doing it. If they have a home, they can focus on finding a job and not put all their energy toward just surviving.
When people make fun of the Eastern Bloc, they are guaranteed to mention those old Soviet apartment buildings for how ugly they looked. The irony of people in a country with anti-homeless designs making fun of someone for building homes for the poor is not lost on me. (Not defending the USSR here, just saying)
I view similar design on vents that replace fences or spikes so its more hidden. Using this method on other places were look down upon and remove. Better solution was the businesses donate to the shelters so they can call them to remove unwanted visitors.
This is a great idea. Now that the homeless can't lay down on the vents, they'll just have to buy homes. Who knew that ending homelessness would be so easy?
@@kogasoldier9379 Not all jobs require an address. However, if they did, then they could easily just remove that requirement. And yet, they would rather pass vaccine mandates keeping good people from working.
@@hotelzeta24 don't blankets trap heat? Isn't that how they work in the first place? That's how they keep us warm. They trap our body heat. Then I guess it depends on how hot the air that comes out really is and the thickness of the blanket. You could argue that the homeless would be using a very thin blanket so it'll stay hot, but then it wouldn't be thick enough to make the pain of lying on that vent any bearable, which kind of defeats the purpose of this whole thing. Maybe if it's actually decently hot and you put a decent blanket over it, it'll still feel a bit warm but I'm not sure if that's warm enough to survive winter.
That might work, it'll still be a nice amount of heat that could penetrate the blankets. With that being said housing is a Human Right and they should spend enough energy trying to resolve it as they did with designing that grate.
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It always annoys me when I see cities focusing on keeping homeless people away rather than helping them.
How do you help someone who don't want help? There are MANY people who like that they have no responsibility, bills, or anything else tying them down. They live the ability to travel and see the country. You're assuming that these are victims because you don't approve of their life style. As someone who has been homeless. Trust me tossing money at this issue will fix nothing. Because there are millions of people who don't want a home.
@@JohnGalt916 keep talking, trumptard.
And when you know money isn't a problem and you only need a small percentage of that money to settle the problem.
@@usagifang what conclusion did you come up with to call them a trumptard? Weird insult and proof of idiocy of someone that disagrees with whats right.
@@TheDarkoricle Quite ironic how you target them based on them talking shit about Trump, then go on to say "oh well the guy they insulted was right tho" kinda hypocritical. Yeah, why don't I agree with a guy who unironically believes that people don't want homes. You know? Because logic.
"There is nothing more permanent than a temporary solution."
-Russian Proverb
Nice
"The worse, the better." Another Russian classic.
Детерминизм это Свобода 🤙
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Ooooooooof, ouch.
Same happened in Sydney, the city councils decided to make outdoors seats and bus stop areas as uncomfortable for homeless people as possible. Added unnecessary arm rests and lumpy gaps. Yet the root cause of homelessness is never addressed. Often mental health issues going on.
Amsterdam, same
damn fancy seeing you in these comments i watched you alot when i was a kid
"mental health issues" is a funny way to spell "capitalism"
It's not really the governments problem to fix mental health issues. At some point the people need to take responsibility for their own actions.
@@gorosaursshut up goofy
I was homeless in NYC several years ago. I'm a veteran and was in a horribly violent situation. I escaped, but I'll NEVER forget my time in the cold, flagging, holes in my shoes and bruises on my body. Sheer insanity!!! Thank you for posting this! ❤❤❤
how did u end up like that? (just curious)
@@ham_hilton_420 Hes a veteran and was in a horribly violent situation
@@nab4L ur not wrong man 🫡
@@PIPpalaceFX That's what we called "sarcasm".
@@PIPpalaceFX Hey pal, you just blew in from stupid town?
I remember that meme where it was like "cutting homeless people in half by 2022" and people were joking about the wording. Ney York would physically cut homeless in half if they could legally get away with it lol.
LOL but I think it was confirmed that said statement was not a real campaign slogan. Too silly to be true
@@Voltaphonic yep yep meme.^ :d
@@Voltaphonic it was by the artist fokawolf, he puts up loads of fake posters around birmingham. You'll always spot one any time you go into digbeth especially.
Just call the Clintons no need for it to be legal
Never heard that
Homeless person: *_being homeless_
Government: *_installs specific designed grates to solve "homelessness"_
Homeless person: "Gee, thanks Government. I'm not homeless anymore!"...
Homeless person: "Just kidding. I'm even more homeless now."
Because he got in the casket... do they even do that for the poor?
I honestly don't think that's the purpose for these designs. Some of the homeless would stay homeless if they had an apartment to go to, it's a mental disorder. I'm sure there are residential buildings where families prefer not to walk out to a drugged-up herd of homeless out their front door. I get having compassion for the homeless, but it goes both ways.
@@Jkief123 of course, but I'm sure the general majority are not enjoying homelessness. Of course we get that, but homelessness is a debilitating situation to be in and we would be doing a better job trying to get those we can help out of it rather than dealing with the un-comfortability of seeing them. One is dealing with the root cause whilst the other is like a band-aid on a festering sore (just cosmetic really solves nothing).
@@Jkief123 yeah, maybe we should just let them die instead of helping them rehabilitate. There's a lot money can do, you just have to be smart about it.
The most infuriating aspect is that these things cost more than a normal vent covers / benches. The same applies to all the other so-called "hostile architecture" installments. So, not only are the people who install them refusing to help the poor, they actually pay money to make their life even more miserable. Therefore, i refer to those things not as "hostile architecture" but as "sadistic architecture".
I'm not sure that's even legal. Those benches cannot comply with ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act).
Local authorities spend vastly, vastly more money in punishing homeless people for simply existing than they ever would do if they did anything to help accommodate and help them move out of their situation.
@@FastBowtie388Theyre vents, not benches
@@FastBowtie388they literally are making the side pavement under bridges into spikes now.... Im serious.
@@ZeallustImmortaltheyre doin it with benches too. The original commenter did list vents....
Wow! I would have thought solving the homeless problem would be complicated and difficult but apparently it's as simple as "hurt them until they either die or go somewhere else." Genius work, NYC!
Truly genius
I really do not enjoy it when I exit a building or my car and being confronted by some panhandler. I once was confronted by this person for money. I have a strict rule, I don’t give money to panhandlers. I told one guy, go to the local mission. He said they won’t help me. I don’t carry money nowadays.
@@stillbobrb9ok but how do you feel about homeless people?
@@NeilCWCampbell look I’m one person, I can’t fix it! This is a government matter but they don’t care. Many are on drugs, catch the dealers. I lost a brother to the streets, I don’t know the details. I always had that feeling of my brother being a victim. He enjoyed living that lifestyle. Like I said, I’m one person on social security, I’m not well off. This is a problem the government has to fix.
@@stillbobrb9 so you are falling for the logical fallacy of "the worthy poor..."
"There is no homeless of you don't see them."
- nyc government, probably
What whas that quote? , if you are homeless , yust buy a house !
Some stupid girl on internet.
@@MatteoComensoli If your homeless, Just build a house illegally
Good keep them away
There is no homeless in ba sing se
- three girls
Wow!!!!! Thats a profound statement and very sad!😪
gives new meaning to "the city that never sleeps"
Grate analogy !
😄
Brilliant comment.
Nice lol
I live in chicago, and frankly, I’m blown away.
The best part of this is that, despite however many millions this somehow cost, it isn’t going to stop anyone. A couple of blankets or a few pieces of cardboard plus a bit of positioning is all it takes to overcome that. Plus if you’re actually freezing, a little discomfort is not a problem.
They look more usable than a flat, sidewalk level grate.
I highly doubt it cost millions to design and make that. Maybe 1k top.
You’re crazy $1000?? The design fees alone for the drafting and development gotta be several thousand. Actually producing it probably over a thousand for like 10 feet of it
@@TH-camCommenter7402when the government is paying the winning design will usually be someone involved with the committee choosing the design and suddenly a £10,000 ,design is valued as 1 000 000
@@TH-camCommenter7402the cost of labor alone to build one of these is easily over $1k. Add an additional $1k minimum for installation. Then add hundreds of thousands for R&D, hundreds of thousands for permits & licensing, hundreds of thousands to hire an attorney to draft necessary paperwork, and that is just the tip of the iceberg. This would easily cost $10 million as a city-wide project
I guess nobody actually realizes that fabricating this uncomfortable geometry triples the cost of those items. Guess who pays for it? YOU!
Homeless man with a pillow: my power is more then you can ever imagine
I might start giving homeless people pillows now 🤔
@@MyDogIsYoshi theres a way to knit plastic grocery bags into a makeshift mattress pad, it could help as well as reduce waste
Than*
@@sixfeetundertheradar6080 dude in my new apartment that I'm watching for my brother cause people keep breaking in, I found a full on twin sized grocery bag mattress and it was the coolest thing I've seen in a while. Some serious ingenuity!
@@MyDogIsYoshi or food or something that can help them get back on their feet and into a real job.
The fact that many homeless people are veterans that served for the same country that also does that to them is absolutely disgusting
What is disgusting is the fact that the states glorify their veterans but after the military service they throw them away like garbage.
Being a veteran myself (along with my son and grandfather), why should WE get taken care of but people who DIDN'T serve not get taken care? We're all humans. There are shitty veterans, good veterans, shitty homeless veterans, and good homeless veterans. ALL veterans get lifetime benefits. The VAST majority of homeless veterans could get a permanent and total unemployability rating and receive $4,000+ PER MONTH, TAX FREE, that includes free public transportation, discounts, and in some states pay no property taxes, and more but they refuse to go through with VA evaluation because most homeless "veterans" are either dishonorably discharged and ineligible for benefits or they have a mental illness and are not wanting help. We need to treat everyone equally and stop putting certain groups on pedestals.
It's a charity for the tax benefits as well. Literal insult
@@rainpain3655 It's much easier to say you'd do something than actually DOING it if your mind is altered.
@@chadcoady9025It's hilarious how psychologically addicted people are now to try to help others then helping their own selves. People now are so dependent of others around them its mind blowing, just world of 5 year olds. I don't understand at all why it would be my responsibility to stop living my own life to help someone else's who can't even help themselves in anything. Yet people out there can't even help themselves in anything to begin with, therefore how are you supposed to help someone else? Only you can help yourself out of your own problems, not other's. If you're a so called grown human being and you still need to be held by the hand by others around you, you never had something that's called discipline and self dependence withing your life.
This should be considered a crime against humanity and the people who designed, funded, and planned it should be punished accordingly.
This is actually a crime. They treat animals better than human beings.
@denelliot how many homeless are you taking into your home?
@@devo076What kind of a r-tard are you? This is a systemic problem in government level, not a problem of people not taking homeless into their own homes. You fukn chicken brain.
@@devo076 should that be the job of the people who have to choose rent or eating well a quarter of the time? Or should that be the job of the government who takes money for these issues, but handles them poorly, if at all?
L homeless, get less poor maybe??? buy a home??????????? its easy, just win the lottery
When they were told to combat the homelessness, they took it in a literal sense
I thought that said liberal not literal the first time I read it😆
There is plenty room in homeless shelters
@@jacobj6376 There actually isn't. a lot of them are over crowded and COVID doesn't help.
@@thatscrazy6373 Did you just pull that out of your ass? The point of these structures are to get them off the streets and into to shelters and then on to secure housing. During covid they were spread out among hotels and shelters to stop the spread.
@@jacobj6376 yeah, plenty of room for drug addicts who will steal the shoes right off your feet!
The fact that people go out of their way to make a homeless persons life harder is beyond incredible lol
Right? I am so glad I am not the only one thinking about this. I would feel like I would sound pathetic if I said this. Imagine trying so hard to disadvantage someone's life. I do not get the point here.
Exactly, can you imagine being the asshat who designs these things?
@@rbmedia8798 Looks like shit and becomes an inconvenience to everyone
I feel sorry for homeless people, but as much as I do I wouldn't be pleased if homeless people were camping on my doorstep. And alot of the time homeless people have addictions and leave alot of paraphernalia and mess behind. I've been homeless myself so I am speaking from experience obviously not all of them but alot. The real solution is to provide affordable/ free housing for them
I know it's messed up and having a couple people laying on there isn't bad they just don't like the idea or just want to be a jerk
I assume there are safety reasons why these vents can't be blocked, like, airflow needs to escape? I understand the compassion but I don't think it was just malice.
I was homeless in NYC for 4 years but after they installed these I decided to get an apartment. Now I'm back working and taking my medicine. Don't want to brag but making 6 figures!🥰
If this is true, you're like one in a fuckin' billion, not everyone's like you.
@@blueaccelerator2674 youtube commenters when the challenge is to "find the joke" (0.00001% GET IT, IMPOSSIBLE!)
@@ashemocha in my defense, it was 4 am and I was on a spree already-
could have happened with that one homeless man with a voice of gold...@@blueaccelerator2674
Good for you but unfortunately for people less fortunate these kinds of architectural shifts are going to ruin lives, Mr. Moneybags.
"Can't have a homeless problem if they all freeze to death"
-New York City
I mean, they're right... If you have trash you go and take it out,you won't keep it in the house + we're overpopulated for about 3 bil. so...
Let nature take its course
Based
@@lad4830 the thing about the overpopulation myth is that it’s only a problem insofar as more people means more resources being consumed, and I don’t know if you noticed but homeless people don’t generally consume a lot of resources.
@@Ashetypebeat not seeing your point
If it weren't for the grate, that looks like it would be extremely comfortable
Maybe for some minutes at best. That would hurt your spine really bad and become unbearable after a while.
I know a few women that would enjoy sitting on the raised parts 🙈
@@dragzgaming man wut
@@dragzgaming💀
If you have something to lay on it's not so bad. Plus like he said it keeps you from freezing to death.
I can sort of see the logic of it. The vent is there for a reason; if the vents are covered by mattresses or cardboard, then it isn't a vent any more. You wouldn't install a vent or grill in your flat and design it in such a way that it was easy to block it would you! Having said that, there should be warm dry places for rough sleepers to shelter.
There are 39,000 vents in the city, many of them being unblockable already since they're hidden in fake facade buildings, I doubt it was any sort of blockage issue for the vent system.
The MTA's stated reason was anti-flooding, which is why they're not flush with the sidewalk anymore, but they don't mention the hostile architecture features.
They’re basically treating homeless human beings like pigeons.
I've seen pigeons getting treated better
@@rickycordero9348 I was just reminded of the way they often put spikes and jagged edges on walls to discourage pigeons from perching on them.
@@shelbyvillerules9962 I've not seen that before but I've seen people ignore homeless people when asked for food but then go throw leftover sandwiches to pigeons right after it's kinda messed up how they treat animals versus actual people
@@rickycordero9348 They have them everywhere in London.
@@rickycordero9348 homes people don't ask for food usually
NYC: Let's attack the homeless together!
Citizen: Don't you mean homeless problem?
NYC: no
To be fair, if all homeless people die, then there is no homelessness. Totally 200IQ decision.
That reminds me of Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog
"I hate homeless"
*switches to the next cue card*
"ness problem in this city"
"We promise to cut all homeless people in half by 2022"
NYC: Wouldn't that fix the problem?
@@ReigoVassal I have a better idea. If all the socialists and corporatists politicians die, then there will be no more homelessness for generations to come.
I lived in Moscow for a year and at that time (not sure if they still do it now) in the winter they left the entrances to the metro open so peope could escape the cold at night. It was only the inital entrance area up to where you enter to buy tickets but it could've been a life saver in the Russian winter.
The USSR had no homelessness.
@@alanequi2786and no money, and no freedom of speech (wait Russian federation can't trashtalk their government so they still have no freedom of speech)
@@alanequi2786loooool
@@alanequi2786 If you consider gulags "home", sure.
@@BloodwyrmWildheart Are you trying to tell me the USSR had a bigger prison population than the US?
Thought it was a sick skateboard rail from the thumbnail
lol
When I was young I was hired as a guard to keep people off the grates on my overnight shift on 7th avenue and 47 street. All they wanted to do is stay warm at 2am-4am, so I would allow them. People with kids, people alone, I mean so many people you wouldn't expect are homeless, the only deal I asked was to be gone by 4am and head to another spot, so my boss wouldn't catch em and fire me.
Doing the lords work. Homelessness is becoming more and more of a pandemic.
you did good lad
Only if people like you were in charge
You're a good dude
Thank you
"They gotta try something else if they don’t wanna die"
- The city
Ya, like actually getting a job
@@Lxndon11 Exactly bro if you have nothing,then just stop being poor like why doesn’t anybody think of that? If you’re poor just…..stop being poor.
@@soggybreh810 Indeed. All the people who got kicked from their jobs and can't find new work too. Just find work! It's that easy. You are on the streets because you were laid off? Go get a job!
@@soggybreh810
I can't mad because I didn't want a whoosh. But here we are, found some refference from dumbass Twitch Thots
@@nuubier8911 literally what I was thinking, covid just happened, how is this not a more understood topic now.
Thank you for speaking out on this. It disgusts me how the government and people in general view the homeless. They're STILL PEOPLE. No one wants to struggle to survive... not knowing when your next meal will be and being in harsh conditions with no shelter... People fail to realize that addiction, mental illness, and the cost of living are the root causes of homelessness. And it can happen to ANYONE. They're worthy of respect and basic human needs/rights just like anyone else.
It doesn't happen yo anyone and people always view that way about the homeless
@@assassin8636Bro posting from mommy's basement
Who else is hearing “2200 dollars for a studio” in 2024 and saying “damn that sounds nice”.
I bet those *authorities* were also thinking like; *"why can't homeless people just buy a home?"*
No shit bro
Fr bruh😔
Then they go " *just get a loan to buy a home and work the debt off* "
Not really realizing what they suggest is essential impossible, or if it does work, then they'll never be able to pay it off and be basically working for the bank just paying off "interest".
If u r homeless, buy a home. That was trending once
"why don't they just get a job?"
There seems to be good money in homelessness, just not for the homeless. I bet that grate cost 25k to design, test, fabricate and install. I'd love to see who got the contract on that.
It was probably a million plus dollar contract when you factor in corruption
$25K/hr for the contract law firm fees, minimum. You're looking at a million bucks in R&D alone right there.
@@newdefsys You are probably right. I'm not calibrated to New York...
@@nickjohnson410 they've been at the laundromat all day. They've been washing money..
All day
25k is peanuts, more ki 500k.
Government's basic responsibility is providing home health and fod security.
there are more homeless people in New York alone than in all of Europe. good job USA. hi from EU.
What a stupid statement.
Problem: Homelessness
Solution: Make the city hostile to human life.
"What if we just got rid of the homeless people? Then there wouldn't be any more homelessness!" - almost certainly someone, in a serious manner
You can always round them up and ship them off to inturnment camps there they will be " off the streets" and the so called charity's can provide "Services" mental health screenings, employment training to become productive members of society, drug and alcohol treatment
ehab and once they are "Clean & Sober" put them to work in factory or farm labor.
Those found to be too mentally ill will be institutionalized for the "Greater Good of Society"
How's *That* for a solution to the "homeless problum?"
It kinda is already what w all the death machines rolling around
@@rickcoona Ah yes, the solution to homelessness, *GULAGS*
@exposing truth Internment camp is also where they put American soldiers & American prisoners of war captured by the Imperial Japanese army during ww2 in basically hitler style concentration camp to torture and kill them...
In Nashville they started putting in wheelchair accessible benches. It’s like a bench but you cut out the middle of it… in all reality it’s really an anti homeless bench.
This might sound insensitive but I'm genuinely curious as to the purpose of "Wheelchair Accessible benches" are... because they're already sitting down in the wheel chair. Most of them are really comfortable a soft and have a hand brake of sorts... I don't know, I just don't see a use for it. Especially since it sounds like more effort for someone who lost the use of their legs to move to the bench from a wheelchair
@@geek4306 the only argument is if the bench has a rain/ sun cover over it otherwise they could have just put it at the end of the bench. or even at both ends.
@@Kittsuera yeah, that makes more sense to me, thank you
@@geek4306 Honestly, I’m pretty sure it’s less of a comfortability thing and more of a relaxation type of thing. Sometimes they just want to get out of their wheelchairs to sit on a bench just for the satisfaction and relief. Now that shit where they literally cut holes in the sides of benches is kinda stupid.
@@H0DAX1 I can imagine that if they were with family, theyd want to maybe sit next to them or something, I don't know but making a gap in the middle sounds stupid
It’s like those anti piracy things in games that make them stupidly hard
Hostile design is the end result of compassion fatigue. Period. That's what you're seeing in the cities all around the world.
Fun story, there was a guy who was dedicated to creating affordable portable housing for the homeless in California and they shut it down for "not being safe to live in".
@@GoogleDoesEvil they were forced
They were shut down cause they cant tax the houses
What the hell is an affordable portable house? That doesn't solve the problem at all. The problem was never that the homeless didn't have a roof over their head but that there were too many of them in the cities that the cities want to be able to permanently kick out.
@@GeorgeMonet Corrupt politician thinking detected
@@GeorgeMonet if you have a roof and the assurance that your things won't be stolen from you it's easier to find a Job and start saving money to scape poverty. So yes, no having a home is a problem that keep homeless people homeless
If these where made in Poland, the homeless people would dismount it and sell it at scrapyard.
Lmao and they'd certainly get away with it too
True
@@ManLikeEddy They would 'cause how do you want to punish them? :D
Same in my country. But first it will be low quality in the first place because of the people organizing it putting the money into their pockets.
Devious lick at a higher level
"they're no longer homeless if they're dead"
It worked. Now there are more homeless people than ever. Oh wait...
Maybe they whould actually go to the root causes of people being homeless. As it is not always the same issue, even though some people like to think there is. Sometimes it is mental illness or got hooked on drugs or they just had some bad luck thrown at them. It's not always the same issue.
We need itemized audits of where our money goes, from the federal to local levels. It’s ridiculous how we give our hard earned money to thieves in suits and never once request a receipt
We don't Give it, the money is stolen.
you are to pay them at gunpoint, there is no give.
Give? No friendo it’s at gun point. Don’t pay your taxes armed lawmen will come to your house and put you behind bars and if you so much as resist boom you got a gun in your face.
No, you need to start applying medication i 556 or 756 doses to those people in charge.
Those thieves don't pay anything funnily enough. Same with billionaires.
They're not solving the "Homeless" problem; they're solving the "seeing the Homeless" problem.
Smelled them first, I'm near sighted.
If I may shed a light on the perspective of the western "elites" which I have some personal "education" of their views on - they genuinely have no desire to ever fix the homeless problem because they don't view it as a problem but as a necessary evil, they don't want them dirtying up the main city streets but they do want them in the alleys and under the bridges and so forth, mostly out of sight but always a ghost in the background.
They are realists who believe there will always be those that can't function in and will suffer in any society of any construct but capitalism is the best system for raising the common standards of living for all of society - and there must be 3 classes - upper, middle and lower. Survival of the fittest means those who have the drive, work ethic and ambition for it can elevate themselves to the middle class while the lower class is always there to scare them into keeping the middle class grind going.
What is great about American capitalism is that with enough drive (or ruthlessness) anyone can potentially elevate themselves all the way into the upper class, it's not a closed club with entry only for those that are chosen by the royalty but rather anyone that can figure out how to make money can have money and buy an extraordinary standard of living in the upper echelon of society.
That lack of motivation from combined fear and enticing reward is IMHO the main reason no "true" communist utopia has been achieved and why all attempts have fallen into generic authoritarianism - without the fear of poverty and/or the dream of wealth there's little to motivate people to keep up the daily grind to keep society chugging and so eventually it always leads to brainwashing and the constant fear of Big Brother lurking over your shoulders ready to punish you for a bad social credit score that keeps it going.
When virtually all manual labor jobs can be done by machines,, which though huge strides are being made is still a ways off, then maybe that system could exist without the people having to do the grinding and thus lack of motivation is irrelevant, but theorizing of what could be is like counting the stars or grains of sand in an hourglass.
Some day I bet Star Trek will come true and a perceived "utopia" will exist but till then human reality will never be as perfect as some want to imagine it, there's a reason the realists are largely at the top of every society regardless of ideology - human nature is a hard thing to change but simply accepting it can bring great wealth and power.
@@jonnygrey3497 while i don't believe that the youtube comments section is the best for debate, i respectfully disagree. Since you argue about realism, the idea that drive and ambition is what gets you up the ladder is false. Its actually opportunity, often in addition to money that does that. Money buys education, shelter, food, security and other basic necessities. Opportunity is created/seen when people have the luxury not to worry about the basics.
So yes, while it is "realistic" that "we can't save 'em all", neither is spending money on yachts. So i respecty disagree that most people on top are realists.
@@jonnygrey3497 Capitalism is quite young. 300 years ago, if you were homeless in a city, you probably just died when winter came and there literally wasn't enough food to go around. Now, the homeless get to suffer instead. I would not be surprised if, in my lifetime, homeless people no longer suffer from lack of shelter/food. There's no fucking way capitalism right now is as good as it gets, not when it is so young in the grand scheme of the human species. Capitalism has changed substantially, and it will continue changing, hopefully improving.
Some people are crazy and think that the world they grew up in is how the world will be forever. That's not realism. That's an excuse to ignore the suffering of others. Or, an excuse to be lazy. If the world cannot get better, no use in thinking of how it can change, eh? Lazy!
@@charpkun Only being poor in a city makes you a homeless. In the countryside there will always be a place for you and ways to make a humble, but decent living. No lucusy and waste. Live simple clean.
Lol I love the orthodox walking by at the beginning. Ironic
What a goofy looking goober. Dude probably has never used the internet or is sheltered from it
What do New Yorkers do who complain about this? Move to cities like Austin and turn them into New York!!!! Yayyy!!!
“If we make them all freeze to death, there won’t be as many homeless people! 😃👍” -nyc
I mean... It's a solution, just not a humane one
Let's just drop agent orange across the country too, that will help with over population.. we are supposed to be helping the situation not worsening it
homeless solution engineer..... 1 award earned.
I’m going to quote a comedian who talked about this. It’s not homelessness it’s house less ness a home is a state of being a state of mind a home is a physical tangible Structure
I mean it's all a question of do the ends justify the means?
NYC officials be like:
Corpses in the streets > Homeless people
they get to count those corpses as "covid deaths"
@@mikel8850 "remember many homeless don't want to get helped". Where are you getting this from? The homeless population are overwhelmingly people with mental illness issues who NEED help....
corpses? heh, not if there's a rat infestation
@@mikel8850 my logic is perfectly fine. I literally quoted you, then made a statement pertaining to the broadest issue of homelessness in general. And no. I did not refute your point outside of your sweeping statement that most don't want to be helped because I agree with the rest of what you said. However I also have to disagree with berating people for raising issue with the air vents as it's just unnecessarily cruel on the homeless that might rely on such things as sources for heat as the help that we argue they do indeed need does not currently exist....
At least something I'd agree with one thing.
In France, they put (often) useless armrests on public benches, and I strongly suspect that those are against homeless people. Other than that, I've rarely seen things like that in France. But I've almost never been to big cities like Paris, maybe it's worse there.
I mean, let's be honest: the people who actually run the city would rather just kill homeless off than do anything to help them.
Well yeah no shit.
Why we accept it tho?? The power in the people frfr
@@Patel-Chirag-Gupta cause majority of them accept their homelessness rather than do anything about it
Lemme guess, too much paperwork
@Lane AWD only way I could agree with housing for homeless people is if it has rules like no alcohol/drugs and you would have to have a job in 1-3 years.
Everyone: Let's get rid of homelessness.
NYC: Get rid of the homeless? Okay!
They not all pent houses, they're regular apartments and houses thats just really really really expensive
@@peterpiper1 Sorry, Piper. This comment had nothing to do with that.
@@LinKueiDragon ye he was probably referring to the comment below this one
They aren't trying to get rid of homelessness, they are trying to remove people causing an inconvience by having bulk people stand on property; Use common ense
@@LoomiYT and making their life more miserable because they're such a cry baby? "Common sense"
Chabad tunnel entrance!
Thank you! I work for Adult Protective Services in Florida. Homelessness in our elderly & vulnerable/disabled population is worse that anyone realizes & not being addressed. I have been following you & this made me subscribe.
NYC really just said “If you’re homeless, just buy a [pent]house” without really saying it.
I mean I understand why your angry but you have to think about the non homeless people who’ve been harassed by the homeless . These homeless have problems man 🤦🏽♂️. They harass a lot of people due drugs, envy, all sorts reasons. Heck some homeless people may rob people so I can’t call nyc terrible you know what I’m saying but the city should put there energy into helping the homeless rather than “evicting” the homeless but I do know you can’t just enable homeless people because it’ll lead to problems like Chicago for example. Chicago has a homeless people problem and it’s disgusting and filled with feces and pee. So you just can’t enable the homeless living near the communities nobody would want that in there neighborhoods.
@@vlahblah4785 wow. Thanks for using logic and critical thinking unlike 90% of the comments.
Imagine paying 2200 or more a month in rent only to be harassed or assaulted by a crazy person that resides down on your side walk.
That’s a good way to lose a whole lot of revenue.
I feel for the mentally ill homeless but any other, if theirs a will theirs a way, like idk.. moving to an affordable city to build your life back up 🤷🏽♂️
@@anthonyfletcher8053 you've never experienced what they do and likely never will. You did not make yourself who you are today on your own.
Be grateful and pay it forward.
@@ewokshoterz as someone who’s lived in nyc for a bit to study, i can say that it’s somewhat concerning seeing these people on the streets. Not only is it obviously bad for them, but it’s also bad for the people who live there. I’ve had pretty poor experiences with people, even when minding my own business. Especially if you refuse to give them something IF they ask, some people just shrug it off, others take it the wrong way. It’s also a cause for paranoia ngl, I’ve had someone follow me around for a bit before i got onto campus grounds. I know majority of homeless people aren’t that bad, but it’s the ones who do things like that who cause concern.
Holy shit. People here really hate homeless. I guess they have never been hungry or cold before.
For those who don't know, it's called "Hostile Architecture".
Although the name might be confusing to some people and they think it's something bad
@@Andre-ih8rv it IS something bad.
@@Andre-ih8rvit is bad
@@Somethingelse506 I think it’s sarcasm.
I call it a waste of taxpayers money.
This was legitimately the moment that New York was done lol. Since then its been an absolute nightmare.
I suspect, that the vents are there for a reason and people clogging them is not exactly what they are made for. How do we fix problems? Who knows, trying to be a rolemodel(?). I was tortured myself, never anyone got held accountable and i donot feel like i ever going to integrate back into the society. The only consolation for me is the fact, that me dying is gonna be worth it for myself, like adios… liberation, freedom.
“No we can’t kill homeless people for being homeless.”
“Fine! What if they freeze to death?”
“We aren’t going to lock them in freezers!”
“I have a better idea.”
“Is it a war crime?”
“Not the first time.”
Listen here, what if we...
Inconvenience those who have lost hope in life and everything they have that's gone get taken away too 👌
@@ronn6771 see he gets it.
My state governor just demoted the homeless shelter that had 500 rooms in 2019 for profiting income apartment by billionaire developers and left thousand homeless families frozen to death through the harsh winter. When we stands up to protest then we got arrested for "illegal late-night" or loitering, lol.
Wasn't first they used police to kick them out when they have nowhere to go home to.
Remember how would you want to be treated if you were homeless
Now they can still place planks over the spikes underneath bridges as well as between those protrusions where the air can still come through and put cardboard on top of that then lay down to keep warm for where there is a Will there is a way.” Keep this in mind before you M.A.D. satanist get anymore ideas.”
This has actually a name: hostile architecture. Many places in-especially-big cities are designed to keep people away or at least to have them hang out for the shortest time possible.
I've noticed seating in some big name restaurants are the same. Pay for your food, eat, and gtfo.
Well, I no longer pay for their food now, have fun paying the bills.
That's f*** ed up.. is there any humanity left??😓
Some call it "defensive architecture" but I like hostile better. It's a little more accurate.
I don't see much hostile architecture in my area but, if I go to Houston or Dallas it becomes way more apparent. It is a poor plan and solves nothing and it generally implemented to hide a problem cheaply instead of addressing it. Also I don't like restaurants that use it in their seating as they generally have poor quality food and even worse service.
Property value jumps into my mind. Also half the poor are not homeless so much as jobless. The other half are dangerous. Half the poor myself included needs to figure something out...the other half tough shit. They sure as hell don't give a damn bout how u feel kiddo. Just saying.
How many of the homeless are vets and other innocent individuals, and how many are just plain bums
first 6 seconds and already a new york thing has happened
The irony of the "Promised Land" sign on the corner he's walking towards.
They promised the land, they just won't deliver it.
@@BillAnt Homeless people eat good in America and have access to good drugs. Do you realize our homeless in America are better off than citizens in other countries?
@@NinjaSushi2 kinda true, I'd rather be homeless in America than a factory worker in china
Promised to work your ass off just to live
@@NinjaSushi2 Yeah but also, they're homeless. I'm not sure why so many people like comparing countries to see which one is worse to justify the other one. Downplaying a serious problem helps no one.
I was homeless as a child. It’s almost unfathomable to believe bc my mother did such a wonderful job of making me feel normal despite homeless shelters. I cannot imagine the otherwise…
Your mother is a hero
I hope your doing better, and kudos to your mom! I hope she is ok too
Unbelievable
@@MisatoBestWoman Holy frick, i thought for a second u typed hoe
You have great mother
And what happens if you block ventilation for a closed subway system…
Bet you're loving all the homeless tents these days😂😂
“Defensive” architecture is in many many cities and it’s subtle if not invisible to the untrained eye
Maybe if you're low IQ.
"Invisible to the untrained eye?" I've seen many, and I'm no super-sleuth. They're super-obvious.
Defensive makes it sound like the city is under attack. Aggressive would be more accurate. The city is actively antagonizing the local homeless population.
@@measlesplease1266 mediocre try, troll! 😂
@@TKnightcrawler how did you become aware of them in the first instance? I think the majority of people are almost completely unawares, based on 6 years or so living in London…
NYC: " I have an idea to help homelessness."
Batman: "Oh."
NYC: "We can hire them to install architecture all over the city."
Batman: "Hmm like what kind of architecture?"
NYC: "Like the kind that hurts"
Batman: " Thats it im going back to Gotham our Psychos are on the streets, yours are in charge"
This is one of, if not the most cringe comment ive seen on TH-cam to date.
Why is batman here
@@doctorfeelgood2670 While it's certainly not the best comment of any sort, I would argue that it is not BY FAR the "most cringe" comment on TH-cam... I've seen some shit man
@@doctorfeelgood2670 Wow then you’re lucky
This looks like something Homer would implement if he was mayor.
Humans are humans we should treat each other better.
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This is what happens in a country that views homeless people as the problem and not homelessness itself.
well said yo!
Exactly.
There is enough money for giving some roof and food
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No no, it's not the country itself, but the city. Liberal politicians to be exact. You don't see this problem ANYWHERE that has a conservative governor.
@@thecomedypilot5894 because red states have way less people. NYC is extremely dense, which drives up land value, which increases homelessness. whenever conservatives are in charge of running major metropolitan areas instead of rural towns, its a disaster.
if democrats were actually progressive they would implement the extremely successful anti-homelessness policies we see in countries like finland and denmark, but then low iq republicans would call it communism.
This is a “hostile architecture” perfect example, there’s plenty of documentation about these devices in urbanistics and sociology books. Humans can be so dishumans.
That’s a whole nother field bro holy shit
Ok boomer
I support anti homeless architecture, I don't want to see lazy, drug addicted homeless people in my town when I go out.
@@twistedgrillz7729 ok then what about the ones who are trying rise above the poverty line but are down on their luck at the moment? They too need a place to lay even for a moment.
Because when I walk downtown, I obviously don't want to spend my time around a bunch of homeless people.
The guy who walked in front of the camera at 0:03 could probably tell you all sorts of neat things about NYC’s underground infrastructure!
What they need to do with the homeless, is build them homes. Pay for their food, pay their rent, and pay all their bills. Also, get them cars and cell phones and whatever stuff they need. Homelessness is never gonna go away. As long as people are free, people have the freedom to hit Rockbottom. And sometimes rock-bottom means being homeless,and addicted to drugs. Now that’s obviously not all of them, there’s a lot of sick, homeless, too. If you want to society, where people are really free, they need to have the ability to hit Rockbottom. If you don’t live in a society that doesn’t have rock-bottom, you live in a fantasy.
This falls under the category of "hostile design" and there are many examples of it, such as pigeon spikes, making surfaces that were flat sloped so people cant sit on it, and adding little brass bumps to short walls so skateboarders cant grind on them.
Good. Fuck homeless and fuck manchildren on their tiny wheeled boards.
Some of your examples are perfectly fair. Not having pigeons perch in spots where they can shit on your patrons is pretty reasonable. Preventing skateboarders from grinding YOUR property is fine too. This is coming from someone who did grinds. Not all of these designs were made with malicious intent, so be careful what you use to make a point.
@@MrSatchelpack yeah these people simply dont understand shit about the real world lmao
Homeless people still use these on cold days. They have rolled up foam camping mattresses.
@@MrSatchelpack true, bit making the ground slope so people can't comfortably sit on the ground seems excessive. But idk maybe there's a situation where it's necessary?
this is called hostile architecture and it's actually quite common. Examples of hostile architecture include spikes under bridges, spikes in benches, removing benching areas, and much more.
Seattle has many of the spikes
Anything to make protests less common.
So because the government hates the homeless I can’t sit and relax at the park?! That’s stupid!
@@jacobc8036 ngl the government are just encouraging people to paint a worse picture of america
Im siding with the government on this one cause what they did is pretty funny
Good observation! Now take action that will lead to a solution.
Those things are an eyesore too.
I love how sarcastic that sign at the end that said "The Promised Land" felt
"The promise of never living happily"
@@kingding9542 This is the problem, even the guy who posted the video doesn't know or care about what that ventilation structure actually is, he's saying "i don't know it comes from subway or something".
So do you think the engineers would design and drill and make this structure just because they have nothing else to do?
That is a crucial engineering element of the system so if people were to block it it wouldn't function.
@@user-ou2md4nr4ywhile that might be true, this is just one of many examples, anti-homeless designs are everywhere, besides if they invested into making it work for both rather than yaknow, hate, they couldve solved it better.
You can tell he's a real new yorker just by how frickin fast he walks off mid video
I came to the comments for this reason 😂
He took off! And it was so abrupt.
I try and learn something g new every day, this is what I learned today.. "how to recognize a New Yorker"
As someone who walks relaxed most of the time that was the first thing I notice
Hes walking slow
I like how the NY accent came back the moment he talked about how expensive a studio apartment is
Portland has spikes on the sidewalks in places. Absolutely disgusting.
This type of architecture is, in my mind, everything wrong about society. It is disgusting. It’s something that one would expect to see in a satire film.
@@allergy5634 you sound like you like taxes
@@xvhkgreen6297actually the monetary costs of mass homelessness is so great society would save money by just buying homeless people houses.
I'm curious to see when they will release some electroshock drones that can simply target and chase out the homeless.
Don't give them any ideas!!
If cops are drones, then they already do that (Lamport Stadium, Alexandra Park, Trinity Bellwoods - all 2021)
Idea for a TV show
Those will keep my baseball bat busy and my knife cutting notches
I mean, why spend money on fancy drones when the cops can just go out and spray them with cold water like they normally do at night?
Politicians probably:
"If all the homeless people freeze to death, nobody will be homeless.
Problem solved everyone, can I buy another Yaht now"?
Genius, you are genius
Ever thought about running for president because you my friend seems to have a bright future ahead of you as a politician
Just make sure you mark that Yacht as a "business expense" for some charity you run and you're all set bud.
HOMELESS DESERVE TO BE HOMELESS
@@virajgoonerarsenal8022 I mean, it's in there name. Who are we to take away the identity of a homeless person? If they're not homeless then what would they be? "Homed", it just dosen't have the same ring to it.
Plus, if we actually fixed the homeless problem then how could I buy my second Yaht?
they need to go into shelters, they need to be off the streets, in the shelters they'll be helped. They will be helped and sober in a shelter.
Ahhhh, but that's the problem. A lot of people want help but in their own way. No rules just give me what I want and keep the structured way of living you are trying to show me to yourself.
How to make a guy with a miserable life, a total persecution and nightmare, inducing to suicide.
Those people are just surviving, let them in peace
I do like how they view homeless folks essentially recycling energy so they won't freeze to death as a big problem.
It's all about the optics to them.
"Heeey... They're getting to live for _free!"_
Under capitalism there is extra cruelty and inhumanity for people who are not consumers
@@ststst981 Explain.
@@harleyrdr1 basically if you don't buy into the system the system fucks you
reminds me of that prison in texas that spent 10 years and over $20,000 defending a lawsuit from a wool-allergic prisoner that wanted a non-wool blanket instead of just buying him a non-wool blanket. continue to inflict suffering at any cost
That's what happens when people or institutions hold on stupidly on their pride instead of showing compassion.
He can buy his own blanket. It's prison, not a holiday camp.
Stupid thing is, synthetic fibre blankets are a lot cheaper than pure wool
@@illegalopinions4082 but they would literally save money with a fiber blanket over the wool one he had. no need to spend 20k of my tax money
@@creamycream7081 Unless I'm mistaken it sounds like they're arguing over the precedent of whether or not prisons have to make adjustments for the prisoner. It may have been cheaper but then it opens up up whole bag of worms for literally every other prisoner.
Plus in this instance if the prisoner was allergic to the blanket they should've brought their own one. If they had no money they could've used alternatives, like the shedts I'm assuming they had no problem with, and worked to buy one that suited him. It certainly would've been cheaper on the prisoner's side if they ponied up for a lawyer to argue the point.
There should be money in that budget to create housing for the homeless. Other cities are doing it. If they have a home, they can focus on finding a job and not put all their energy toward just surviving.
What annoys me is that we can’t stand together and let our voices be heard by the governments. Most of us are just a few paycheques from homelessness
At this rate "we will cut homeless in half" meme is close to reality
I defended a homeless man in London from police bullying him to go away.
@@HOLLASOUNDS nice
@@HOLLASOUNDS round of applause
@@HOLLASOUNDS good job doing good for the world & that guys life 💯
"Let's give the people who have nowhere to go nowhere to go."
Yes wtf is wrong with people man?
@@ashleysmith3912 they love hatin and Satan
Yeah it's crazy dumb
Why don’t you give them all your money then liberal. Cry about it
Sounds like a personal issue to me
When people make fun of the Eastern Bloc, they are guaranteed to mention those old Soviet apartment buildings for how ugly they looked.
The irony of people in a country with anti-homeless designs making fun of someone for building homes for the poor is not lost on me.
(Not defending the USSR here, just saying)
From the video, we can see that NYC is interested in soulless Soviet design.
@@BloodwyrmWildheartall the bad with none of the good
I view similar design on vents that replace fences or spikes so its more hidden. Using this method on other places were look down upon and remove. Better solution was the businesses donate to the shelters so they can call them to remove unwanted visitors.
This is a great idea. Now that the homeless can't lay down on the vents, they'll just have to buy homes. Who knew that ending homelessness would be so easy?
Right, it's actually pretty smart. An incentive to get a job basically, they should do this more often
@@skrimper tell me. How exactly does one go about getting a job with no address?
@@kogasoldier9379 Not all jobs require an address. However, if they did, then they could easily just remove that requirement. And yet, they would rather pass vaccine mandates keeping good people from working.
@@bermchasin you mean keeping stupid people from working
@@kogasoldier9379 You do know that this comment is a joke, right lol?
The homeless guy who throws blankets over it: *Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.*
then its not hot anymore i guess?
@@garrygurung6329 definetly will be. If you were homeless, you would be dead now. Learn from this guy.
@@hotelzeta24 don't blankets trap heat? Isn't that how they work in the first place? That's how they keep us warm. They trap our body heat.
Then I guess it depends on how hot the air that comes out really is and the thickness of the blanket. You could argue that the homeless would be using a very thin blanket so it'll stay hot, but then it wouldn't be thick enough to make the pain of lying on that vent any bearable, which kind of defeats the purpose of this whole thing. Maybe if it's actually decently hot and you put a decent blanket over it, it'll still feel a bit warm but I'm not sure if that's warm enough to survive winter.
But THAT blanket will block the ventilation. The very reason the grate is there and why NYC doesnt want bums on it.
That might work, it'll still be a nice amount of heat that could penetrate the blankets. With that being said housing is a Human Right and they should spend enough energy trying to resolve it as they did with designing that grate.
Interesting. In my country in Europe we try to reintegrate and help homeless people so they can have a decent live. But every country is different
Looks like a good idea to me. It is sad that big cities attract homeless and have policies to make it worse.
They don't want to fix it ..
No city does ,they just want them to go somewhere else.