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I’m so glad you tried this canson paper because after not being able to find the velvet and my Pastelmat came damaged again I was curious about a different canson and now I know. It is unfortunate for pastel artists struggle to find a good paper. I really hope at some point I will be able to find the velvet. Thank you for showing this and saving us from further frustration.
If you end up fighting against your paper the entire time to get any sort of decent results, the notion of "but it was less expensive" goes right out the window. Another very excellent informative video 👍
@@Cindy-zn2so For some of the smoother paper that you are struggling with, sometimes it helps if you coat it with Liquitex Clear Gesso. That way it can at least be used for small studies/paintings or even color testing swatches. Especially if you use pastel sticks. 😊
I was STRUGGLING with pastel thinking I just suck and my entire issue was the paper 😂 immediately got great results switching to sanded surface, pastel mat. I wish someone told me when I started!
Personnally I like working on the Mi-teintes Touch also, even if it is not the same that Pastelmat or Mi-teintes Velvet which hold lots of layers as it is mentioned in this video. They are of course first quality papers.
FYI Fellow artists....I found Dakota pastels company will be getting in the Canson velvet in the mid to end of oct and I put in that I wanted to buy some and they let you reserve it...let you know when it comes in!! YAY! It's in the US too. Get on board and grab some! Take care
I like uart, pastelmat, velour, art spectrum colorfix, pastel premier, luxarchival and the new clairfontaine pastelgrain.. Still have not tried the canson velvet yet.
Oh my goodness, you gave me a fright lol! I should have watched the comparison first. Yes, the velvet was gone very fast. I ordered the blue, but I had no idea at that moment what the colors were like. Black is the only one readily available
Hi Jason Thanks a lot for your excellent tutorials. Due to your last tutorial I bought the canson velvet and tried it immediately. It is absolutely great for pastels. For colored pencils there are better ones as for example the new mixed media sanded paper from sennelier. On this I can use pastels in combination with colored pencils and wet media can used on this ,too. The Maimoufin sanded paper is also very recommendable.
Hi! Are you referring to the Sennelier La Carte Pastel Card Mixed Media pad? Do you find it better than the regular La Carte Pastel Card (that shouldn't be used with wet mediums) to use with pastel/CP combo?
Yes, there is a new version,. This paper (It is heavy what I like) can be used with wet media, too. It takes a lot of layers. I was able to use colored pencils on top of pastels. The surface is more smooth. I began the background with watercolors, It was No problem
I just can't get the velvet anywhere (in the UK)! I love pastelmat but don't like its surface faults or how it bows at the sides, so I really want to try the velvet.
After watching the video on Canson velvet I realized I needed to keep working through my sample pack of pastel papers I got from Dakota Pastels a year ago. I'm a beginner. I liked the Pastelmat best of what I've used. I even ordered 2 tablets of Pastelmat because I liked it so much and then I put them away. So I'm on a mission to use up the samples and the Pastelmat. I've got my name on the alert list when the Canson Velvet is in stock at Dakota Pastels.......in October maybe. I'll not order the Canson touch. I do however like Canson MI Tientes for oil pastels.
I would love some advice. Whenever I put a base layer down, I find it impossible to put details over top. Some info: I have tried several recommendations for the type of pencil for detail and it hasn’t made a difference, so I’m thinking my problem lies with the paper or perhaps I should be using a different type of pastel for the base vs the detail. Please if anyone knows I’d really appreciate it!!!
@@triciab8751 right now I’m using pastelmat or if I want a toothier paper I have colourfix. I really like the colourfix for detail but I have a hard time with fall out and when I spray fixative it darkens on the colourfix As far as the brands of pencils I use stabillo and faber castle
@@wildlifeartjm thanks so much for your response! I think my problem is filling the tooth far too much right away. I use pastel mat. I will try that on my next portrait
Thank you for showcasing this, I have a bunch of MT Touch and learned a while back I have to use it with my sticks for more impressionist work. Have you tried Clairefontaine Paint On? I use it with gesso for my pencils and gouache and have been wondering about pastel, another youtuber Zara did a cat that is amazing but she definitely said you can't get the same amount of layers as Pastlemat but her cat looks very real.
@@micheleyoung9292 No I agree with you - the paint on paper is useless for this layering pastel technique it literally smudges like printer paper. Nothing like pastelmat or Velvet at all. It might be ok for sketching an dpainting on, but not this.
Strathmore pastel paper is a long time favorite of mine. You can buy it in sheets or pads. Similar to Mi-teints but more tooth. I have used it for many years. Can’t stand velvet or sanded papers.
Hi Jason! Thank you for the videos focused on paper. I have tried Velour, Colourfix Canson Touch, and UART in the past and Touch was actually my least favorite. I use Pastelmat to do animal drawings so I think I will probably enjoy Canson Velvet! I just placed an order of the pad and am so excited to try them out! Question: I have been very curious about LuxArchival paper. However, they are a bit pricy. I wonder if you have ever used them? Do you think they are good alternative for Pastelmat paper? Thank you!
after the comparison video you made between Velvet and pastelmat I decided to try the Velvet paper, I found it irritating, it seems like sandpaper, it takes a lot of pastel and the result is unsatisfactory, both the drawing and the pad ended up in the bin.
Everyone has their own style and technique. In my videos I show a full drawing, start to finish, which shows that with my technique fine details are possible. No paper suits everyone.
merci ! le velvet est tres difficile à trouver ! le touch, uniquement pour les paysages avec beaucoup de fondu. Pour les animaux, en effet, il ne vaut rien.
Wow! The difference between the Canson Mi-teintes touch and the velvet its noticeable, oh wow...I have the Canson Mi-teintes touch, but I didn't try it yet. But, it's good to know about another paper like Canson Mi-teintes Velvet, very important news!
Hello dear Jason. First of all thank you very much for your videos and the knowledge and techniques you shared with us.. I have a question regarding sanded boards, specially Pastelmat, as it or other brands of sanded papers are not found in our locality; . Actually, I've tried hard to make pastel boards like Pastelmat, or at least similar to it. I have read a lot of articles and watched all TH-cam videos on making pastel boards. In addition to testing several ready-made pastel grounds, I have made a variety of compositions of binder and grit with various degrees of roughness to cover the surface to make it a perfect pastel board. My main problem is that I have no experience with Pastelmat or any other sanded papers even just once, so I'm not able to do a good judgment. I think my boards don't grab the pigments as Pastelmat does, based on what I have read about its features or seen in your videos. I have watched your videos thoroughly and noticed that when you rub the surface with you finger, it doesn't remove the pigments off of the surface compared to when I do the same on my own boards. I don't know how much pressure you apply with your finger, therefore I'm not able to judge my hand-crafted boards. I have no problem regarding the number of accepted layers of pastels because my boards are very good at it. The first few layers of pigments stick very well, like what I've seen in your work. But as more layers are added, I feel the pigments slide or move more freely than they should, in a way that the subtle details added in the final stage are not so stable and may be ruined with a simple smudge. Is this true about Pastelmat or not? How much stable are the subtle details you add in the final stage? Also, I want to know what will happen to a non-framed artwork done on Pastelmat? Does the air flow remove the pastel pigments gradually off of the board or not? Do you frame the finished artworks or they are so stable and will last long without frame? I am eager to hear from you about the behavior of Pastelmat regarding this matter. I appreciate again for your shared techniques and tips. Take care and be well.
HI All pastel drawing on any surface need to be framed behind glass. I have tested many pastel grounds and non hold the pigment the same way pastelmat or canson velvet does.
@@wildlifeartjm Thank you very much dear Jason. Like I said before, none of the sanded boards are available in my country, so I decided to make pastel boards and I tried very hard on that. You may missed my main question in your reply, so I ask again and I hope you give me a reasonable answer to help me on making boards. Here is the question again: The first few layers of pigments stick very well to my hand-crafted boards, like what I've seen in your work. But as more layers are added, I feel the pigments slide or move more freely than they should, in a way that the subtle details added in the final stage are not so stable and may be ruined with a simple smudge. Is this true about Pastelmat or not? How much stable are the subtle details you add in the final stage?
@@mnhamedani in the final details after I have done a few layers then the pastel is sittign on top of pastel. So on my finished drawing if I wiped it across with my finger it would smudge. I find with sanded papers they smudge on the surface much quicket than pastelmat or canson velvet, diue to the way they hold / dont hold the pastel.
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I’m so glad you tried this canson paper because after not being able to find the velvet and my Pastelmat came damaged again I was curious about a different canson and now I know. It is unfortunate for pastel artists struggle to find a good paper. I really hope at some point I will be able to find the velvet. Thank you for showing this and saving us from further frustration.
If you end up fighting against your paper the entire time to get any sort of decent results, the notion of "but it was less expensive" goes right out the window. Another very excellent informative video 👍
thank you
@@Cindy-zn2so For some of the smoother paper that you are struggling with, sometimes it helps if you coat it with Liquitex Clear Gesso. That way it can at least be used for small studies/paintings or even color testing swatches. Especially if you use pastel sticks. 😊
This is exciting ... I'm excited to try these new Canson papers!
I was STRUGGLING with pastel thinking I just suck and my entire issue was the paper 😂 immediately got great results switching to sanded surface, pastel mat. I wish someone told me when I started!
Personnally I like working on the Mi-teintes Touch also, even if it is not the same that Pastelmat or Mi-teintes Velvet which hold lots of layers as it is mentioned in this video. They are of course first quality papers.
Thanks for sharing!
FYI Fellow artists....I found Dakota pastels company will be getting in the Canson velvet in the mid to end of oct and I put in that I wanted to buy some and they let you reserve it...let you know when it comes in!! YAY! It's in the US too. Get on board and grab some! Take care
I like uart, pastelmat, velour, art spectrum colorfix, pastel premier, luxarchival and the new clairfontaine pastelgrain.. Still have not tried the canson velvet yet.
How are you supposed to blend if it doesn’t on Pastelmat?
I would like to know if colored pencils work on the touch. Have you tried? I know the velvet is not good for them, but brillant for pastels
I dont use coloured pencils - sorry
Oh my goodness, you gave me a fright lol! I should have watched the comparison first.
Yes, the velvet was gone very fast. I ordered the blue, but I had no idea at that moment what the colors were like. Black is the only one readily available
Hi Jason
Thanks a lot for your excellent tutorials. Due to your last tutorial I bought the canson velvet and tried it immediately. It is absolutely great for pastels. For colored pencils there are better ones as for example
the new mixed media sanded paper from sennelier. On this I can use pastels in combination with colored pencils and wet media can used on this ,too. The Maimoufin sanded paper is also very recommendable.
Hi! Are you referring to the Sennelier La Carte Pastel Card Mixed Media pad? Do you find it better than the regular La Carte Pastel Card (that shouldn't be used with wet mediums) to use with pastel/CP combo?
Yes, there is a new version,. This paper (It is heavy what I like) can be used with wet media, too. It takes a lot of layers. I was able to use colored pencils on top of pastels.
The surface is more smooth. I began the background with watercolors, It was No problem
@@christineschafer1484 Thank you!
I guess this paper would suit a more painterly style. I use fixative in between layers on other papers and mdf 😉 Cheers
I just can't get the velvet anywhere (in the UK)! I love pastelmat but don't like its surface faults or how it bows at the sides, so I really want to try the velvet.
new stock coming
After watching the video on Canson velvet I realized I needed to keep working through my sample pack of pastel papers I got from Dakota Pastels a year ago. I'm a beginner. I liked the Pastelmat best of what I've used. I even ordered 2 tablets of Pastelmat because I liked it so much and then I put them away. So I'm on a mission to use up the samples and the Pastelmat. I've got my name on the alert list when the Canson Velvet is in stock at Dakota Pastels.......in October maybe. I'll not order the Canson touch. I do however like Canson MI Tientes for oil pastels.
What about portraits where you want some blending? What would you recommend?
I've only used pastelmat for portraits.
@@wildlifeartjm I would love to see you do a portrait!
@@enaid54 th-cam.com/video/QZRqm3l9OX8/w-d-xo.html
@@wildlifeartjm Perfect!
Have you talked with Canson to find out when the velvet will be available and in the US?
Mid Oct. Follow my facebook for updates
I would love some advice. Whenever I put a base layer down, I find it impossible to put details over top.
Some info: I have tried several recommendations for the type of pencil for detail and it hasn’t made a difference, so I’m thinking my problem lies with the paper or perhaps I should be using a different type of pastel for the base vs the detail. Please if anyone knows I’d really appreciate it!!!
What paper and what type of pencil? Just like sticks of pastel, pencils have various hardness so it can make a big difference.
@@triciab8751 right now I’m using pastelmat or if I want a toothier paper I have colourfix. I really like the colourfix for detail but I have a hard time with fall out and when I spray fixative it darkens on the colourfix
As far as the brands of pencils I use stabillo and faber castle
@@triciab8751 I appreciate your response very much
Pastelmat or canson velvet is needed.
Thin layer as base so you don't fill tooth of paper.
@@wildlifeartjm thanks so much for your response! I think my problem is filling the tooth far too much right away. I use pastel mat. I will try that on my next portrait
Thank you for showcasing this, I have a bunch of MT Touch and learned a while back I have to use it with my sticks for more impressionist work. Have you tried Clairefontaine Paint On? I use it with gesso for my pencils and gouache and have been wondering about pastel, another youtuber Zara did a cat that is amazing but she definitely said you can't get the same amount of layers as Pastlemat but her cat looks very real.
hi yes tried that - thanks
I tried the Paint On from Zara's recommendation and I don't like it at all! Maybe it's just my fault... Good idea to try it with gesso.
@@micheleyoung9292 No I agree with you - the paint on paper is useless for this layering pastel technique it literally smudges like printer paper. Nothing like pastelmat or Velvet at all. It might be ok for sketching an dpainting on, but not this.
Strathmore pastel paper is a long time favorite of mine. You can buy it in sheets or pads. Similar to Mi-teints but more tooth. I have used it for many years. Can’t stand velvet or sanded papers.
I'm not able to get Velvet here in the US. I can't wait until it's available!!
I called Blicks art supplies they said probably October when it will be available.
Hi Jason! Thank you for the videos focused on paper. I have tried Velour, Colourfix Canson Touch, and UART in the past and Touch was actually my least favorite. I use Pastelmat to do animal drawings so I think I will probably enjoy Canson Velvet! I just placed an order of the pad and am so excited to try them out! Question: I have been very curious about LuxArchival paper. However, they are a bit pricy. I wonder if you have ever used them? Do you think they are good alternative for Pastelmat paper? Thank you!
I'm not a fan of sandpaper.
after the comparison video you made between Velvet and pastelmat I decided to try the Velvet paper, I found it irritating, it seems like sandpaper, it takes a lot of pastel and the result is unsatisfactory, both the drawing and the pad ended up in the bin.
Everyone has their own style and technique.
In my videos I show a full drawing, start to finish, which shows that with my technique fine details are possible.
No paper suits everyone.
@@wildlifeartjm for me you remain one of the best artists and I follow you willingly🤗
merci ! le velvet est tres difficile à trouver ! le touch, uniquement pour les paysages avec beaucoup de fondu. Pour les animaux, en effet, il ne vaut rien.
Well that settle the debate for me, I'm not going with Canson Touch. Not when better are available.
It doesn't take layers like Canson velvet and pastelmat for sure
Wow! The difference between the Canson Mi-teintes touch and the velvet its noticeable, oh wow...I have the Canson Mi-teintes touch, but I didn't try it yet. But, it's good to know about another paper like Canson Mi-teintes Velvet, very important news!
my pleasure
Omg - I ordered the mi- tientes velvet - ohh noooo so I ordered the wrong one then 😳😣
No the mi-teintes touch is the "less good"'😊... Velvet is the perfect one
I almost did that.
Watch the video all the way through. Velvet is great.
The velvet is the good one! Touch is the one that doesn't work as well.
Uart
Hello dear Jason. First of all thank you very much for your videos and the knowledge and techniques you shared with us..
I have a question regarding sanded boards, specially Pastelmat, as it or other brands of sanded papers are not found in our locality; .
Actually, I've tried hard to make pastel boards like Pastelmat, or at least similar to it. I have read a lot of articles and watched all TH-cam videos on making pastel boards. In addition to testing several ready-made pastel grounds, I have made a variety of compositions of binder and grit with various degrees of roughness to cover the surface to make it a perfect pastel board.
My main problem is that I have no experience with Pastelmat or any other sanded papers even just once, so I'm not able to do a good judgment.
I think my boards don't grab the pigments as Pastelmat does, based on what I have read about its features or seen in your videos.
I have watched your videos thoroughly and noticed that when you rub the surface with you finger, it doesn't remove the pigments off of the surface compared to when I do the same on my own boards. I don't know how much pressure you apply with your finger, therefore I'm not able to judge my hand-crafted boards.
I have no problem regarding the number of accepted layers of pastels because my boards are very good at it. The first few layers of pigments stick very well, like what I've seen in your work. But as more layers are added, I feel the pigments slide or move more freely than they should, in a way that the subtle details added in the final stage are not so stable and may be ruined with a simple smudge. Is this true about Pastelmat or not? How much stable are the subtle details you add in the final stage?
Also, I want to know what will happen to a non-framed artwork done on Pastelmat? Does the air flow remove the pastel pigments gradually off of the board or not?
Do you frame the finished artworks or they are so stable and will last long without frame?
I am eager to hear from you about the behavior of Pastelmat regarding this matter.
I appreciate again for your shared techniques and tips.
Take care and be well.
HI All pastel drawing on any surface need to be framed behind glass.
I have tested many pastel grounds and non hold the pigment the same way pastelmat or canson velvet does.
@@wildlifeartjm Thank you very much dear Jason. Like I said before, none of the sanded boards are available in my country, so I decided to make pastel boards and I tried very hard on that.
You may missed my main question in your reply, so I ask again and I hope you give me a reasonable answer to help me on making boards. Here is the question again:
The first few layers of pigments stick very well to my hand-crafted boards, like what I've seen in your work. But as more layers are added, I feel the pigments slide or move more freely than they should, in a way that the subtle details added in the final stage are not so stable and may be ruined with a simple smudge. Is this true about Pastelmat or not? How much stable are the subtle details you add in the final stage?
@@mnhamedani in the final details after I have done a few layers then the pastel is sittign on top of pastel. So on my finished drawing if I wiped it across with my finger it would smudge.
I find with sanded papers they smudge on the surface much quicket than pastelmat or canson velvet, diue to the way they hold / dont hold the pastel.