The biggest take away I got from making this video is that Jalen shooting 40% FG with the shots he takes is very impressive. Few young players would be able to hit the crazy shot attempts he likes to take. So the terrible shot selection is the problem! ALSO: Any mention of Net Rating in this video was misused. It was actually Net Rating WITH said player on court MINUS Net Rating WITHOUT said player on court.
I’m sorry, but Cade’s career is fine. Last season sucked because of an injury, but as a player, dude is so talented and we’ve seen it this season. Dude was hard carrying the team to not beat that losing record. It’s not his fault the Pistons FO and coaching staff are run by morons. Casual fans have to do better….
Yeah this video sucks. Not to even mention he’s coming back from a leg injury that took him out the whole last year. Ever since he’s been getting back up to speed he’s been good, best in the class
@@will57305he’s been better then fine. Cade is technically in his 2nd szn 23-4-7 while having better percentages on more shots. He’s been a good selection just Pistons are poverty rn
@ndnghostkeeper7216 lol, frfr. Tik tok and bleacher report have ruined basketball. People look at stats and highlights make casuals think they're basketball savants
A lil outta pocket w the Cade description you can tell he is an amazing player in a terrible situation and is the only one playing like he cares enough besides just him and duren
@@colewrld901 no he wasn’t. bro is consistently inconsistent, and is a turnover machine. he shoots 54% from the entire floor, plays terrible defense (if any).
That was wild to joke around like but im pretty sure he don’t swing dat way but to say it’s from that is a hypothetical but if it is he’ll probably be better once he gets his confidence back and starts getting settled in the areas he needs to he’ll be better
@@Shantiomari he’s a great player but the Cade slander is insane nothing can prosper in Detroit but I’m sure Cade is the problem 🤣 like everyone and there mother would die to have Cade on there team people only wanna talk until he gets traded then y’all gunna say he’s the best thing since slice bread
What🤣🤣🤣 look @ the stats I don’t take winning into factor buddy Jalen green is averaging 17 points on 40 percent from the field Cade is averaging 23 on top of 7 assists 🤣 no contest
@@hmmmmmm6901 no star potential?? He literally has the same game as Luka, he just hasn’t gotten to the level of Luka yet but they have the same style of play.
Cade is effectively in year 2, playing with zero spacing, facing the other teams best defender every night where he also gets doubled and collapsed on due to no spacing… And still averaging 24-4-7 on 45 FG%. For a 22 year old with like 110 games played, idk what else do you want. You then call him irrelevant and not in the same class as Evan Mobley?? All because the players around him are awful? Like you acknowledge that he was fighting for his life, putting up positive +/- on a historically bad team, giving teams 30 a night, but some how we are just going to write that off because of his circumstance? FOH. Let Cade play on the Magic, Rockets, or Raptors and there is zero question who was the best in this class. Just ridiculous to acknowledge what he has done then just write it all off and say “it’s not going to cut it” … what would “cut it” then? MVP numbers at 22?
While Jalen is definitely the worse of the two as of the moment, I think having vets like Fred Van Vleet and Dillon Brooks would ultimately help him develop into a better player in the long run. His development was stunted by the Rockets' insistence on having him and Kevin Porter Jr at the same backcourt. He developed really bad habits that can be fixed now with vets on his side. Cade, on the other hand, can still take that superstar leap earlier than Green especially if the Detroit FO and Coaching staff situation changes.
Cade shows flashes of being a top 5 PG in the league, but with what he's working with means he gets really turnover prone. I would also say he has a lack of DAWG a lot of the time. Sometimes he looks unstoppable, and his midrange pull up is pretty automatic, but I don't know if he even knows it.
This “rivalry” is so one sided, even tho it’s not really a real rivalry. Cade doesn’t care about Jalen at all, while Jalen is still salty he went #2, even tho he shoulda went way lower… Zesty Green ain’t even the best player on his team from his own draft class lol. Cade betta and it’s not really that close
@@Levi77471 so lets see, more points, more rebound, more assists, more efficient, best option on team, better iq, better free throw shooter, better 3 point shooter. cmon, 10x the player is accurate
@@hmmmmmm6901 Lonzo had all that hype and Patrick Beverly just got randomly offended by it😂. He was really talking shit for Months before Lonzo played his first game for no reason. He really Locked up and Bullied Lonzo on the Debut as well. And then that was it after that. I was expecting an actual rivalry with all that Hype but Beverly was too irrelevant and Lonzo too injury prone and inconsistent
I didnt really realize how bad Jalen Green was until watching this Knicks game since I had Segun on my prizepicks. He missed Segun so many times on the roll to where Green could have scored, or Segun could have made a play
What a waste of space and time this video is. Have you not noticed what Cade is doing on the all time worst team in league history (possibly)? He just came off a season ending injury, took a while to round into form and has been kicking ass for the last two months. Sheesh, unsub
Everyone knows that Monty is the real reason that the pistons are so bad 😂. He’s been having shitty rotations since phoenix. Every player picked in that top 5 has better teams around them. And the point that people make that he can’t elevate a terrible team is 🗑️… if that’s the case we should be saying the same thing about somebody like Lamelo too but y’all love him. Cade missed damn near a whole season on top of that and he still the best player in that class… Scottie debatable
When I hearthat somebody is good when he plays with effort, then that person is f***ing unprofessional cause there is no excuse for not playing with effort, especially if its your job.
Playing with two different systems from Silas to udoka in his age might be difficult for Jalen In Miami you can never go to guy when you're too young unless you are a generational talent They focus on player development That's why Miami is very good at developing talent from trash to diamond
Bring Cade out of Detroit and he'd probably not be in this discussion. As for Jalen, he needs to be in a system that challenges him to develop like Miami.
green won’t be signed to a rookie supermax this offseason. he may even be traded because Houston should soley focus on developing Sengun. Even Antman knew it last season.
The rivalry is only disappointing because Jalen Green is just bad, making it clear who the better player is. I don’t know how people talk down on Cade who’s avg. 23 4 and 7 whilst having Isaiah Stewart as his best shooting choice in the starting lineup (for the majority of his games played this season)
If you watch the rockets games, obviously the Rockets team plays are bad and not a great NBA standard. It takes a coaching staff, teammates, set plays to have a good team. J. Green cannot prosper in that kind of environment. Just my opinion/ observations.
If you're talking about players efficiencies and you're only going to use one stat (like you did for Saddiq Bey and Kelly Olynyk) I feel like FG% is not great. Maybe give us TS% or EFG% in those circumstances?
No comparison Cade is better, Jalen is regressing every year and will soon be out from the starting lineup, from a Rockets fan. Switch Jalen for Cade HOU prolly 5th or 6th in the west.
Cade is fine, real bball fans would appreciate him, of course the media would ignore him and if he's in the spotlight, I don't think he'll get the love he deserves, he doesn't have much highlights but has the substance, Jalen has all the highlights but no substance.
Wait till cade gets that spacing on the floor. See the dude unleash his full potential. They need to surround Cade with shooters. Detroit is just awful rn. Cade is still the best prospect in their draft class. Switch cade to toronto or rockets he will carry that team to atleast a playin spot.
You made him look like a terrible person just because he said that one time? So you expect NBA players to say oh yeah I am way Lower than that guy. So I check real stats. 5 - 40+ points game, 32 - 30+ points game, 114 3s this season so far, 94 20+ points. While still shooting 41%, 41 and 42 previous years in a Rockets uniform with tons of 1st rd. picks. 😂 Now people are saying he is bad. That Cade only half of those stats.
The pistons problem is not Cade. At all. Your really make yourself look stupid and invalidated when you say that. It doesn’t take a basketball genius to see that Troy weaver is the problem. He traded bagley livers and 2 second round picks for 2 old power forwards. And your putting it on cade? Find something else to make videos about. There are plenty of people who have been making videos like this for years, leave it to them. You don’t know what you’re doin
The pistons problem is not Cade. At all. Your really make yourself look stupid and invalidated when you say that. It doesn’t take a basketball genius to see that Troy weaver is the problem. He traded bagley livers and 2 first round picks for 2 old power forwards. And your putting it in cade? Find something else to make videos about
Lot of salty Detroit fans in the comments too blind to see that Cade is a just a decent player on a shitty team putting up numbers. He's no franchise cornerstone
Yeah, we probably feel that way because we watched him put up multiple 40 balls on good efficiency in December while getting absolutely swarmed with double and triple teams because he is playing with zero space. The list of players 22 and under who can do that is very, very short.
The biggest take away I got from making this video is that Jalen shooting 40% FG with the shots he takes is very impressive. Few young players would be able to hit the crazy shot attempts he likes to take. So the terrible shot selection is the problem!
ALSO: Any mention of Net Rating in this video was misused. It was actually Net Rating WITH said player on court MINUS Net Rating WITHOUT said player on court.
I’m sorry, but Cade’s career is fine. Last season sucked because of an injury, but as a player, dude is so talented and we’ve seen it this season. Dude was hard carrying the team to not beat that losing record. It’s not his fault the Pistons FO and coaching staff are run by morons.
Casual fans have to do better….
Fine isn't the goal with a #1 pick
Cade is really good its sad how many casuals exist in the nba
Yeah this video sucks. Not to even mention he’s coming back from a leg injury that took him out the whole last year. Ever since he’s been getting back up to speed he’s been good, best in the class
@@will57305he’s been better then fine. Cade is technically in his 2nd szn 23-4-7 while having better percentages on more shots. He’s been a good selection just Pistons are poverty rn
@ndnghostkeeper7216 lol, frfr. Tik tok and bleacher report have ruined basketball. People look at stats and highlights make casuals think they're basketball savants
A lil outta pocket w the Cade description you can tell he is an amazing player in a terrible situation and is the only one playing like he cares enough besides just him and duren
Cade 25 and 8 on 59 TS in his last 22 games. He’s still the best in the class 😂
argue barnes is still better as of right now
Barnes and sengun are both better
@@jasonh9787hell nah Cade is way better than both
@@jasonh9787 easy to play clean and efficent when you have spacing cade has none, if you watched pistons games you would understand why
@@dinisrino681what spacing does the raptors got? It has gotten better now but it was nothing crazy or the rockets all they shooters inconsistent
Its clear that the embarrassment from the zesty video with Josh Christopher has gotten to jalen green. His confidence is 0 this season lol poor guy
😂😂😂
bro’s been garbage since Draft Day 😭
@@jayden.6 nah lol he was good his 1st two years. Especially after allstar break last year. But he looks like a real bum now 😔
@@colewrld901 no he wasn’t. bro is consistently inconsistent, and is a turnover machine. he shoots 54% from the entire floor, plays terrible defense (if any).
That was wild to joke around like but im pretty sure he don’t swing dat way but to say it’s from that is a hypothetical but if it is he’ll probably be better once he gets his confidence back and starts getting settled in the areas he needs to he’ll be better
Hows Cade dissapointing? I get Jalen but not Cade
Dudes just be talking because both of them are standout players plus they only had 3 years in the league 😂
Cade way better and does more it's not close, it's Scottie VS Cade honestly
And Cade still wins that Scottie is overhyped fr
@@04billups90 real shit man
@@04billups90how is he overhyped. Y’all was calling him MCW last year
@@Shantiomari he’s a great player but the Cade slander is insane nothing can prosper in Detroit but I’m sure Cade is the problem 🤣 like everyone and there mother would die to have Cade on there team people only wanna talk until he gets traded then y’all gunna say he’s the best thing since slice bread
@@04billups90 cade stinks, its scottie and sengun on top
I wouldn't compare Cade to Jalen. That's mad disrespectful.
It’s not tho
What🤣🤣🤣 look @ the stats I don’t take winning into factor buddy Jalen green is averaging 17 points on 40 percent from the field Cade is averaging 23 on top of 7 assists 🤣 no contest
@@Zytateit is stats rn for cade top 5 in halfcourt drives with luka sga and elites and top 5 in mid range with high volume ar 45.4%
One day people will regret doubting cade
People doubted him?
@@StancedHellcatPeople doubt him.
no one is doubting cade on the other hand piston organization that is a different kind of disappointment
@@arthurfhackingshelby9631 no one is doubting have you watched the video?
@@dinisrino681 why are you so heated ? are you his lover like chill stop riding another man
Way too early, plus Cade is averaging 23, 4, 7
Once he gets a better team around him with some shooters he’ll be an all star every year
You don’t watch him play do you? If you did you’d realise he has no star potential a good player but he’s not him
@@hmmmmmm6901you’re wild😭
@@hmmmmmm6901moron
@@hmmmmmm6901 no star potential?? He literally has the same game as Luka, he just hasn’t gotten to the level of Luka yet but they have the same style of play.
@@user-em6lz4bz9f stop lying.
Seeing this just one year later... yeah, this didn't age well.
Cade averaging 7 assists passing to Isaiah Livers and James Wiseman he gon be fine in the league
Yes!
we have to give cade props if i got drafted by the pistons i’d announce my retirement on the draft stage
Cade is playing really good and showing potential of becoming even better, the problem is that he plays for the Pistons…
I think Cade is a baller he’s just in a bad situation in Detroit plus injuries he has so much time. Can’t put Jalen in the same bracket
Also he’s up there with elites in stats halfcourt drives and mid range and finishing this guy is a casual
Cade is effectively in year 2, playing with zero spacing, facing the other teams best defender every night where he also gets doubled and collapsed on due to no spacing…
And still averaging 24-4-7 on 45 FG%.
For a 22 year old with like 110 games played, idk what else do you want.
You then call him irrelevant and not in the same class as Evan Mobley?? All because the players around him are awful? Like you acknowledge that he was fighting for his life, putting up positive +/- on a historically bad team, giving teams 30 a night, but some how we are just going to write that off because of his circumstance? FOH. Let Cade play on the Magic, Rockets, or Raptors and there is zero question who was the best in this class. Just ridiculous to acknowledge what he has done then just write it all off and say “it’s not going to cut it” … what would “cut it” then? MVP numbers at 22?
While Jalen is definitely the worse of the two as of the moment, I think having vets like Fred Van Vleet and Dillon Brooks would ultimately help him develop into a better player in the long run. His development was stunted by the Rockets' insistence on having him and Kevin Porter Jr at the same backcourt. He developed really bad habits that can be fixed now with vets on his side.
Cade, on the other hand, can still take that superstar leap earlier than Green especially if the Detroit FO and Coaching staff situation changes.
This aged like milk 😂😂😂
I don’t understand how the rivalry is disappointing they’re both actually playing very well especially this season.
Dude wtf are you talking about. How is Cade not the best player in the class are u serious 😂😂😂bro yea I gotta unfollow
Cade shows flashes of being a top 5 PG in the league, but with what he's working with means he gets really turnover prone. I would also say he has a lack of DAWG a lot of the time. Sometimes he looks unstoppable, and his midrange pull up is pretty automatic, but I don't know if he even knows it.
This “rivalry” is so one sided, even tho it’s not really a real rivalry. Cade doesn’t care about Jalen at all, while Jalen is still salty he went #2, even tho he shoulda went way lower… Zesty Green ain’t even the best player on his team from his own draft class lol. Cade betta and it’s not really that close
Yappin Jalen Green was way better coming out of highschool and has more potential
@@Levi77471okay. As of right now after every game they’ve had of their career, Cade’s 10x the player green is
@@nuggiesss6193 10x is absolutely cap
@@Levi77471 so lets see, more points, more rebound, more assists, more efficient, best option on team, better iq, better free throw shooter, better 3 point shooter. cmon, 10x the player is accurate
@@Levi77471 doesn't mean he still can't be good, cades the clear cut better player tho
Scottie Barnes vs Evan Mobley is way more entertaining
No it’s not they both boring as fuck
🤣🤣 look @ ur username
Facts
i still remember watching his first summer league game, i thought dude was gonna average at least 25 in his rookie season lmao
Patrick Beverley vs Lonzo Ball is the most random and disappointing Rivalry in NBA history
How is it a rivalry? Lonzo came in with all that hype and pat bev made him his son his first game respectfully
@@hmmmmmm6901 Lonzo had all that hype and Patrick Beverly just got randomly offended by it😂. He was really talking shit for Months before Lonzo played his first game for no reason. He really Locked up and Bullied Lonzo on the Debut as well. And then that was it after that. I was expecting an actual rivalry with all that Hype but Beverly was too irrelevant and Lonzo too injury prone and inconsistent
I feel like jalens confidence vanished and lost all the skill..cade is just on a bad team thats all
Can't call something a rivalry when it doesn't even exist 🤦🏻♂️💀💀
Rainbow Jordan aka The Balls Master aka Gaylen Green
I didnt really realize how bad Jalen Green was until watching this Knicks game since I had Segun on my prizepicks. He missed Segun so many times on the roll to where Green could have scored, or Segun could have made a play
As a rockets fan he’s terrible with a low iq
It’s time for the swap. Jalen wants to play for his favorite coach with no leash, Stephen Silas
U can’t tell this story without talking about their high school career
What a waste of space and time this video is. Have you not noticed what Cade is doing on the all time worst team in league history (possibly)? He just came off a season ending injury, took a while to round into form and has been kicking ass for the last two months. Sheesh, unsub
Everyone knows that Monty is the real reason that the pistons are so bad 😂. He’s been having shitty rotations since phoenix. Every player picked in that top 5 has better teams around them. And the point that people make that he can’t elevate a terrible team is 🗑️… if that’s the case we should be saying the same thing about somebody like Lamelo too but y’all love him. Cade missed damn near a whole season on top of that and he still the best player in that class… Scottie debatable
When I hearthat somebody is good when he plays with effort, then that person is f***ing unprofessional cause there is no excuse for not playing with effort, especially if its your job.
Calling Cade decent is crazy
Because he's way better than decent?
Why does the thumbnail show Ja Morant, Adam Silver and Stephen A ?
Maybe a glitch with youtube ?
Pause! Cade is a star! The team is just bad. That sums this video up.
Playing with two different systems from Silas to udoka in his age might be difficult for Jalen
In Miami you can never go to guy when you're too young unless you are a generational talent
They focus on player development
That's why Miami is very good at developing talent from trash to diamond
If you put Joel Embid in place of Cade, they would still be the worst team in the league.
Cade is a underrated bucket
🐐 uploaded… that means it’s a good day🔥🔥🔥🔥
ALPEREN SENGUN the best player in that draft
Bring Cade out of Detroit and he'd probably not be in this discussion. As for Jalen, he needs to be in a system that challenges him to develop like Miami.
green won’t be signed to a rookie supermax this offseason. he may even be traded because Houston should soley focus on developing Sengun. Even Antman knew it last season.
this video is so pointless bruh your talking like they're in there 10th season give them some time too develop jeez
The rivalry is only disappointing because Jalen Green is just bad, making it clear who the better player is. I don’t know how people talk down on Cade who’s avg. 23 4 and 7 whilst having Isaiah Stewart as his best shooting choice in the starting lineup (for the majority of his games played this season)
If you watch the rockets games, obviously the Rockets team plays are bad and not a great NBA standard. It takes a coaching staff, teammates, set plays to have a good team. J. Green cannot prosper in that kind of environment. Just my opinion/ observations.
Cade is better than Green, it just cade have a bad team.
If you're talking about players efficiencies and you're only going to use one stat (like you did for Saddiq Bey and Kelly Olynyk) I feel like FG% is not great. Maybe give us TS% or EFG% in those circumstances?
No comparison Cade is better, Jalen is regressing every year and will soon be out from the starting lineup, from a Rockets fan. Switch Jalen for Cade HOU prolly 5th or 6th in the west.
Cade is averaging 23 and 7 on a garbage team whereas Jalen is the one struggling the rivalry has become depleted due to jalen not performing not Cade
Jalen locked in now though
bro cade would literally drop 40 and they would still lose😂can’t hold that against him
Rockets better trade Jalen for Cade, since the Pistons doesn't want to win.
Cade > Jalen Green
Andrew Wiggins & Jabari Parker vibes.
Cade has two 40 point games and eleven 30 point games this season
Green had 4 40 Point games 18 30 point games last year not hard when your team is asss
Cade is fine, real bball fans would appreciate him, of course the media would ignore him and if he's in the spotlight, I don't think he'll get the love he deserves, he doesn't have much highlights but has the substance, Jalen has all the highlights but no substance.
Cade is pretty clearly the best player in that class.
Nope, Sengun and it aint even close.
Wait till cade gets that spacing on the floor. See the dude unleash his full potential. They need to surround Cade with shooters. Detroit is just awful rn. Cade is still the best prospect in their draft class. Switch cade to toronto or rockets he will carry that team to atleast a playin spot.
Vid aged terribly
Bro ya giving up on stars to early
I never saw the Green hype. He just a potentially better Jordan Clarkson.
I would love to see Cade and wemby get together
Jalen Green is the definition of empty calories and net negative.
Jalen has been trash since his rookie year and only rockets fans refused to see it. He's wack.
As a pistons fan i hope we trade him to the Spurs
Watch there be a cooper flag and buzelis “rivalry”
cade is amazing bro you cant say this is a mid off
You made him look like a terrible person just because he said that one time? So you expect NBA players to say oh yeah I am way Lower than that guy. So I check real stats. 5 - 40+ points game, 32 - 30+ points game, 114 3s this season so far, 94 20+ points. While still shooting 41%, 41 and 42 previous years in a Rockets uniform with tons of 1st rd. picks. 😂 Now people are saying he is bad. That Cade only half of those stats.
To be fair, cade has a horrible team. Green just sucks without his bae joshie
cade way better man not complain when his team losing but silent and carry his team ass
green is no nba player, cant even get time in barcelona.
cade is empty stats on a bad team. Like MCW back then, almost triple double but never translate to win
Fans no what sup!
Harsh on Cade
This is a weird polar situation lol. Cade is good but his team is ass. Jalen is ass but his team is decent. Both failing successfully I guess.
No, Cade is failing successfully while Green is successfully failing.
I hope Cade leaves Detroit I’m sorry he needs a better franchise
Too early to tell with both
FAST FORWARD
I still think Green has a lot of potential if he gets better in the areas he needs to
Green is really irritating
The pistons problem is not Cade. At all. Your really make yourself look stupid and invalidated when you say that. It doesn’t take a basketball genius to see that Troy weaver is the problem. He traded bagley livers and 2 second round picks for 2 old power forwards. And your putting it on cade? Find something else to make videos about. There are plenty of people who have been making videos like this for years, leave it to them. You don’t know what you’re doin
Cade will bring a chip to the city of detroit one day, calling it here
The pistons problem is not Cade. At all. Your really make yourself look stupid and invalidated when you say that. It doesn’t take a basketball genius to see that Troy weaver is the problem. He traded bagley livers and 2 first round picks for 2 old power forwards. And your putting it in cade? Find something else to make videos about
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Imma come back to this at the end of the season when Cade is averaging 25 on good efficiency and when I do I expect an apology
Jalen is better...than cade
You're a bum for skipping giddey in the intro
Wtf is this guy watching/talking about.
What rivalry? Cade is way better
Lot of salty Detroit fans in the comments too blind to see that Cade is a just a decent player on a shitty team putting up numbers. He's no franchise cornerstone
Yeah, we probably feel that way because we watched him put up multiple 40 balls on good efficiency in December while getting absolutely swarmed with double and triple teams because he is playing with zero space. The list of players 22 and under who can do that is very, very short.
nice
This video is reaching
Cade being on a bad team may serve as an excuse for some, but another narrative is that Cade is on a bad team because he is bad at leading a team.
trash take
completely forgot about their rivalry lmao. Green gotta go somewhere else
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Early!!
Alperen Sengun is better than both
Never drop another take again 🔥