KUHN! Philosophy Battle - SCIENCE WARS - FULL EPISODE 3

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    Thomas S. Kuhn. "Logic of Discover or Psychology of Research?"
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    "A few years ago I happened to meet Kuhn at a scientific meeting and complained to him about the nonsense that had been attached to his name. He reacted angrily. In a voice loud enough to be heard by everyone in the hall, he shouted, "One thing you have to understand. I am not a Kuhnian." Freeman Dyson, The Sun, The Genome, and The Internet: Tools of Scientific Revolutions (1999)
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  • @abdulkader7104
    @abdulkader7104 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    great content when i first learned the popper way of falsification and distinction between science and pseudoscience i said the same thing happens with science but kuhn knew how to elaborate the idea and explain it in a reasonable rational way

  • @MarkovChains223
    @MarkovChains223 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dude... great video!! It's a shame this hasn't gotten more views!

    • @PhilosophyBattle
      @PhilosophyBattle  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the sub and comment - Yeah it turns out I can visualise philosophy decently but I suck at promotion. If you could also tweet my video out or share it on a face book group perhaps, it would be much appreciated. How did you find this video, if you don't me asking? In any case check out my new video I just uploaded - Philosophers vs Sociologists let me know if you like it :).

    • @MarkovChains223
      @MarkovChains223 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PhilosophyBattle I will *definitely* be checking out that vid; as a statistician, I have a bit of a bias against sociologists and their practices... I'd love to see a philosopher's take, even if it disagrees with my own!
      I found your video basically just by perusing search results for either "the science wars" or just "epistemology of science", but I can't remember which.
      Unfortunately, I'm not a very active social media presence, so I'm doubtful my sharing of the video will reach many, if any, people (it's worth a shot anyways, though).
      That said, I do know how to analyze data quite effectively; if you ever feel so inclined, I might be able to help you with some market research/promotion from that angle. I'd love to see this channel get a good following and see more videos from you!

    • @PhilosophyBattle
      @PhilosophyBattle  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow, thanks for that wonderful offer. I'll definitely keep that in mind. I could use any help I can get here. Here you go, my latest episode- may need to up the volume, audio is lower than usual but hope you enjoy it. thanks. th-cam.com/video/HWd0OTool40/w-d-xo.html

  • @dominikvonlavante6113
    @dominikvonlavante6113 ปีที่แล้ว

    Positivism does get you anywhere because of confirmation bias. This is why Popper's falsification sword is so sharp.

  • @BenjaminKBroderick
    @BenjaminKBroderick 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see this as just empiricism and rationalism having differences in utility while being inseparably entangled, rationalism being the upstream from which empiricism becomes possible. Innate rules are built in.

  • @das.gegenmittel
    @das.gegenmittel 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    pleaaaaase morrreee

  • @omerfarukcelik1069
    @omerfarukcelik1069 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video

  • @cosminu.4519
    @cosminu.4519 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do not agree with Kuhn idea that philosophy does not have constraints as oppose to science. If you are a dualist , for example, no matter how good arguments are there for a theory of consciousness that says that it's a product of the brain , the dualist would not accept it. He will try to poke holes in it which is fine .... that's how philosophy works..

    • @christiansather8438
      @christiansather8438 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you not just contradict yourself? Science must have restrains for it to do any kind of practical work. That's what a paradigm is. It's a playing field where "normal science" or "puzzle solving" can be done. Philosophy doesn't have such constraints. It's the busniess of philosophy to probe and challange science every step of the way.

  • @abdulkader7104
    @abdulkader7104 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    so what you basically mean is that if we have only one falsification we should blame the person and not the theory but when we have a multiple falsification tests we can blame the theory ? plz reply

    • @PhilosophyBattle
      @PhilosophyBattle  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Philosophically we won’t even necessarily call the failure of a test falsification. We would just call it failure. And who or what is to blame for the failure, whatever it is, it will not be the theory given the theory is already very much trusted and established. Often it is the scientist that is blamed, but in the sense that the scientist didn’t take care for some variable they ‘should have’ if theory isn’t the problem which is the last thing we will consider. But if many tests are failing, and even very good scientists’ tests are failing who have tried to take care all the variable the can imagine, only then we will be able to conceive as an expert community that the problem may be with the theory, according to Kuhn.

    • @abdulkader7104
      @abdulkader7104 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PhilosophyBattle ty man

  • @abdulkader7104
    @abdulkader7104 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    and one more thing if we apply this concept on freud psychoanalysis it is a science because freud did say why this didn t work and came with new ideas or am i wrong?

    • @simonlawrenson6972
      @simonlawrenson6972 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the same with Marx. It seems like they both are scientific under Kuhn's view, but I'm not expert.

  • @bon12121
    @bon12121 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No to neutral observational language of positivist? Whats this about?