Will Remco Evenepoel be READY for POGAČAR?
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Thanks Chris and Garrett!!
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Chris, you brought back memories with the comment about driving your VW Corrado. Loved that car.lol
Good to see Remco healing well. It should be noted that rowing, while good for the upper body is mostly about the legs and core.
I must have been using the wrong technic. 😂👊
@@ChrisHornerCycling hehe. Best piece of exercise equipment ever. I never understood why cyclists never seem to use a row erg as an important supplement to help their cycling. I bought my Concept 2 erg in 1997. Best money I ever spent.
I'm excited about Columbia's TT happening on the 6th. I want to see how well Egan Bernal does.
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I want to hear more about your VW Corrado, That was a good looking car.
I had some fun with that car. 😂👊👊
@@ChrisHornerCycling I always enjoyed mine! Had 3 Sciroccos as well.
Good to see ya again Chris, Personally throughout the season everyone is chasing Pogacar still and as long as Pogacar is in perfect form I see no difference but Evenepoel should build up the form quite well.
All the way leading up to the Tour de France i think that's where Evenepoel will be a little better this year as long as he doesn't run into problems later in the season.
Jonas should be in better form than last year
Let’s hope 🤞👊
Happy to see Remco is recovering well. Let’s hope he can bring the heat come the classics and Tour.
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Literally zero worries about him being ready for Pogacar. He could have all the time in the world with the most perfect prep and he would never be ready. Tadej is in a class of his own for all around. In Grand Tours the only person in the same class as him is Jonas. Remco is in a distance 1B class with a few other riders.
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Primoz. Don’t forget primoz. I know he crashes “sometimes” but if he doesn’t I still believe he’s the closest. I could be crazy to think Primoz can get thru half a season without crashing but it could happen. 🤞🤪👊💪
@@Red5StayOnTarget best account name ever!
My thoughts exactly. Zero chances. The same applies to Roglic. I would go as far as saying that if Pogacar goes for the big three, he would have big chances of winning them all.
@@ChrisHornerCycling buy some lottery tickets on that day, my friend. 🤣
we wait en see
Yes we do. 🏆👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊
Tha basq contry race ...didnt he fall dawn last year 😅😅 love hearing you🎉
Injury or no injury, my money is on Pogacar being a step higher regardless.
Everyone’s money is Pogi after last season, the season before, the season before (except peacock commentators not named Horner;), and the season before that 🤪👊💵👊👊👊👊👊👊👊🦚
As always I love your videos and learn something every time. A bit of an odd question. Did your thumbs and hands get their shape naturally after decades of holding onto the handlebars or did you injure them? Always wanted to ask but figured the question might be taken the wrong way.
The right wrist has been broken and a couple bones in the hand along with the right ring finger and pinky have been adjusted from time to time. The left pinky also had some drama along with a broken hand. Comes with the job. 😂🤪👊
@@ChrisHornerCycling That was my guess since you were a pro for 25 years which is amazing. I'm 73 and have never raced but I did have a fellow rider tell me recently I'm now a "real" cyclist after I crashed 2 years ago and broke my collar bone and a few ribs.-:)
Your appreciation for Remco knows no bounds. He is a great rider and has a champions personality, but there is absolutely no reason to suggest that Remco will ever be ready to compete with Pogi. In GT there is no chance at all, even if Pogi is not at his best Jonas is the only one that can beat him. Remco is closer in the one day races, but still do not see him dropping Pogi or beating him in a sprint.Remco won LBL twice, but without Pogi being present. In fact he won almost all of his biggest races without competing against any of the riders in your top 6. The only discipline where he is top of the pile is TTs.
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Appreciation no doubt, but past performances are no reason to just give up. Riders like RE may expect TP to out do them, lose more often than not, but equally they are there to win themselves. So thinking about what they do, where and when to race etc., is part of the process. Recall that 12 months ago, the landscape looked very different. Things can and will change.
And even in TTs, if it's on the hillier side, Pog has him beat by a great margin.
I would agree with that. That’s why I said Pogi is number and Remco is number four. Many times actually 👊👊
Remco reminds me of Chris Boardman (as far as GTs are concerned). Tons of fire power! He spent several off seasons training like hell…losing weight. Since he had tested at a phenomenal power to weight ration he and his trainer, Peter Keen, surmised that if he lost an elusive 2-3 kilos he could climb with the best and win the TDF. Alas it wasn’t to be. For all of his phenomenal talent he couldn’t climb with the elite. Boardman indeed had a testosterone related medical condition…but really, even some of the most talented riders can’t merely change their stripes and race outside their physiology.
Remco is a remarkable TT rider. Great at certain classics races, one day races and, perhaps, shorter stage races…but the TDT. At best a podium spoiler. I say that and I’m a Remco fan.
Remco did very well in last year’s TdF and I think a big step forward. That said, Remco doesn’t seem to have the body to hang in the toughest mountain stages to stay with Pogi and Jonas. I salute Remco’s gold medals in the Olympics.
Why doesn't he have the body?
Expect Pog to take off on Stockeu at this year's LBL
After last year I’d be surprised to see any of the top men’s riders at the Basque Country. I think it’s got the bad joo joo.
That was just bad luck and bad timing. Besides we all know Pogi would have seen that coming and avoided it. 😂👊
Theyre not in the same realm.
Pog can drop remco anytime, anywhere. On demand
Except that TT Pogi lost during the TdF. 🤪👊💪
@ChrisHornerCycling name one GT stage where Pog lost to remco
@@pigupigu He just did 😅
Chris & Garrett let’s be honest, he doesn’t have the balls to take on Pogacar. I think he’s quite complacent for second to Pogi. To take Pogacar you need to attack non-stop and he would eventually loose his composure. Remco doesn’t believe he can do that to Pogi, as he seems to be very happy with 3rd place in the Tour de France. I truly believe he doesn’t believe he can beat Pogi
We all know Remco has balls. Especially after stage 9 of the TdF. 😂👊⚽️🏀🏈⚾️🥎🎾🏐
Not true. Triste year TdF for Remco was for him to try to know if he can be at a highest level through 3 weeks. That is why he didn’t attack Poggy in the highest montains. But he actually attacked Vingegaard and got a big counter. If the terrain suits him, he will attack.
And next year, he will try differently. It is not in his manner to accept being always second.
Ofcourse he was very happy to be 3rd in his first TdF right after the 2 riders that have dominated the TdF (annd GC in general) for the past 3-4 years. Especially since he didn't even have a normal run in after his injuries sustained in Basque.
Who wouldn't or shouldn't be happy with 3rd place in that situation?
🤣 Chris advising Remco to waste his altitude training by doing more races, 2001 training schedule.
There exists a "plateau" that Remco needs to transcend, in contending for Grand Tour leadership, and it's purely in his head.
I can't specify how many times I saw it, but "more often than not" ~ Remco watches someone else "jumping ahead" and does what? He slacks off whilst looking over his shoulder, either expecting someone else to respond, or demoralized that they didn't!
Cher Remco! The Champion attacks himself! Do that and don't look back.
And if anyone else attacks, you jump on that wheel and DON'T LOOK BACK: you're only looking for the other "also rans" when you do.
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I am 100% certain Pogi looses the world championships with just a little bit of correct tactical racing in the men’s road race last season. Now whether or not Remco would have beaten MVDP is up for discussion. But sometimes i believe more thinking is required not less if Remco wants any chance of beating an on form Pogi somewhere during the season. 🤔👊
Remco doesn't react if he believes he won't be able to follow and would just blow himself up in the process. He always has been more the steady high speed rider than the big blow acceleration.
Especially eg. last TdF he had no idea how good he was vs the others or if he could do it for 3 weeks, so he might have been even more carefull than usual.
Whats the best of grass seed to use for brown patches,
Getting in brawls
I'll be shocked if Remco is a serious challenger for Pog this year. That's a tough ask coming off an injury.
Let’s just hope Remco can follow the wheel. And then hope there is some drama to watch between them. 🤔🤞💥👊
If TDF was a horse race, I'd buy a Place ticket on Remco.
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Horner, we get it you like Remco. With or without injuries he’s not Pogi level or even Jonas. Great rider nonetheless, one of my favorites but lets be realistic.
To be fair, I have Pogi number one for a reason. 😂👊
He's above Jonas in one day races for sure.
GC is something different, but Remco might have more margin for improvement left than eg. Jonas and Pogacar.
Only time will tell how good Remco is vs them. Currently Remco pushes better numbers than either Pog or Jonas did at the same age, ofcourse if at the same time Jonas and Pog increased their perfomance too, this is less noticeable.
I Hope he did that same thing the Ansjovis did last season where you gain impossible results after laying flat for 12 days in a hospital. That would make for great tv this summer
he will never be ready to face the pogacar. pogi is 3 years older, but these remco injuries will make him age faster
Pogi is number 1 for a reason. 👊💪👊👊👊
Pogi is +-1,5 years older, Jonas is 3 years older.
I think Pog is in a league of his own. Rinse and repeat I think for Pog in 2025
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Nope. He won't be. But I'm interested to hear your thoughts Chris, lol
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Not in the same league as Pogi and you know it Chris
Likely a controversial query, but do pros seems to crash a lot in training? I know increased distance and volume etc, but maybe also they spend enough time on closed roads they can forget that the entire motorized population is a constant threat?
He was hit by a motor vehicle...
Think their speed during training and the amount of miles they train (as you mentioned) doesn’t reduce the odds of crashing any. Especially compared to someone training 150 miles a week. 🤔👍
I've just heard about Pogacar and Visma using carbon monoxide in training, this sounds concerning and might explain why they have had a jump on others. Your thoughts?
We will know soon enough now that it’s banned from use how much it could have helped the riders using it if there was a considerable drop in fitness this year. But remember, before now it’s wasn’t banned so it wasn’t breaking any rules in cycling at the time whether it helped or didn’t help the rider. Now the debate of whether or not the health of the rider was at risk is a whole other topic of discussion. 🤔👍
The guy had a bad run last year. I hope he can bounce back but it's late preparation for the start of the season
I don’t think Remco will miss much other than P/N and Algarve. But time will tell 🤔🤞👊
No, he will not. Even if he takes as much monoxides as his lungs can inhale. Chris you know better than us, you need atleast 100 days of 5 hours Zone 2 LT1 rides to catch up to guys like Poggi and Jonas when they are 100%.
I am not a great lover of the Basque Country for any top rider. The roads are always twisty, wet and the climbs will put lots of pressure on his body. I know crashes happen anywhere in a any race. Also, remco races to win so may put himself in to trouble doing that. Remco always has do the mistake before learning it, he's an accident waiting to happen so best keep him wrapped up in cotton wool. ;)
I don't see Remco racing calmer or sitting up in a race, even as a training race. He might as well jump into classics because he likes to race with balls 😂.
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Said it once I'll say it again Pogacar is an alien. If pogi is in top form he will be unbeatable this year...again. lol
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Easy answer NO. Long answer HECK NO. To be ready for Pogacar, there is zero room for injuries.
Pogi is number 1. 👊💪
@@ChrisHornerCycling I remember racing Bucks County with you Chris years back and I was pretty miserable following your wheel. I can only imagine following Pogacar's wheel when he decides to light it up.
Damn I love Pogi and have rooted for him in the past 4 years but all these butthurt Pogi fanboys in the comments make me want to root for Jonas just to see them cry. lol
Look Pogi is showing no sign of slowing down but saying Remco will never be able to challenge him is crazy. Didn't people think that about Jonas before he won 2 times as well? Y'all be butt hurt for no reason. I'd rather see Pogi get challenged and win that way than just do a walk in the park like last year.
Zeus himself couldn’t beat TP
You probably right. 😂👊
Uber talented physically however fall shorts on attitude
Yep
The biggest problem of Remco is his mentality. He is not able to be focused while cycling. He broke all his bones due to this. Training, nutrition, talent, you simply cannot progress if you broke your bones every year. Just think what would've happen if Remco didn't fall in Lombardia 2020. He probably would've won that race, and maybe the Giro. Now imagine him progressing healthy between 2020 and 2025, like Pogacar did. I'm pretty sure he would be at Pogacar's level, less climber and more time trialist for sure, but very close to Pogacar's level. We will never know unfortunately and now I think Remco won't be able to challenge Pogacar and Vingegaard anymore. This year is already messed up because he had no winter prep. But the mentality is part of the sport, you cannot call it bad luck, you simply cannot cycle a few centimetres near a car and just hope that a door won't open. You cannot go full speed through a corner hoping that you will mantain control. Because everything can happen and you have to foresee it, not just stomping your pedals
*you simply cannot cycle a few centimetres near a car and just hope that a door won't open*
This I can't agree with at all. You can't just ride in the middle of a public road that is open to cars AND people coming out of cars have the responsability to check if no one is coming before opening the door.
It would actually be much more dangerous to expect every door can potentially open, since you either would have to constantly ride in the middle of the road or constantly make unexpected maneuvre's to the middle of the road when passing parked cars.
Remco's problem likely is more related to him having started cycling late, which lowers his technical abilities. He doesn't generally take turns faster than anyone else (often times it is the opposite with him taking them slower).
@MDP1702 I don't agree. When you go in the street, by car, bicycle or anything, you have to predict every possible scenario if you care about yourself. And you have to do it even more if you cycle at 50 km/h, something that people are not used to see. If you can't do it, because you can't predict anything, just don't train in the city center. Of course, looking only at the rules it wasn't his fault. But who cares if it's another person's fault when you're broken. If you are a professionist you have to take every possible action to guarantee your safety before all. If you know that you're not that gifted in terms of technique, just avoid the potentially risky situations if you can. It's not a matter of coming late to the sport. Of course this matters also, for example when he crashes because he can't corner or quickly overcome a risky situation (Basque 2024, both ITT and the infamous stage, Lombardia 2023, national ITT 2023 to quote some of them) but the lack of concentration is also involved and sometimes it is the only reason. Remember Vuelta 2023 when he crashed while celebrating? There is no technical aspect in that case, only a matter of focus, lack of concentration. You'd never see Pogacar or Vingegaard crash that way.
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*When you go in the street, by car, bicycle or anything, you have to predict every possible scenario if you care about yourself.*
That is just an impossible thing to do and you can't react to every possible scenario either. The only way to do this would be going very slowly the entire time, which defeats the point of training.
*just don't train in the city center.*
He wasn't training in a city center, he was passing through it. It is pretty much impossible here to train cycling without passing through town centers.
*Basque 2024*
I wouldn't put this in a list if his fault definitely, many others crashed the same and it was shown to be due to the road surface. Hell, his reaction there likely saved him from worse and was one of the times he actually had good instincts.
*Vuelta 2023 when he crashed while celebrating?*
The run out was unusually shortened without enough warning. Even those behind him not celebrating (and going slightly slower) only just stopped in time. They should have put that finish earlier.
@MDP1702 You are trying to justify everything and I understand that since you're a fan of Remco. But this isn't the correct logical approach if you want to do an objective analysis. I am also a fan of Remco but I can also think without being affected by this. You are trying to relate any event to external factors, not to Remco himself, while I cannot unsee a correlation between all the facts that I quoted and many others (not only crashes, but race tactics, behaviors and so on). Again, it's not only Remco's fault and not only unfavourable circumstances. It's about Remco not being able, often, to overcome potentially risky and unfavourable circumstances. In my opinion it may also be that his team has a bit of responsibility in this. Like in the Giro 2023 when he has been infected by Covid (every team member including Remco was without a mask, thinking that there wasn't any risk. Well done, shortly after they understood the lesson and they made him wear a mask in the Vuelta 2023 and in the last tour; but Jumbo riders were wearing it already in that Giro and they won the race).
Pogacar has been through the same race and training circumstances but he never had as many problems. His only broken bone was wrist, and it happened because a rider crashed due to a puncture right in front of him. This is 100% an unfavourable circumstance, since there was absolutely nothing he could do. And It's not only because he has more bike handling, it's because he uses his brain on and off the bike, and probably has a better support (physical and mental) by his team. This is the way for an athlete to be the best possible version of himself.
will pogacar be ready for a Vingegaard in 2025 who will not suffer a near death experience just a few weeks before tdf. pogacar will get dropped immediately when the mountains starts being long and exhausting like in 2023
Remco flamed out last year trying to keep up with Pogi. This year he won't be a factor.
To be fair to Pogi. Last year no one was a factor. 😂👊
He was the 3rd best GC rider in the peloton in his first TdF after an imperfect preparation and always just riding his own pace not going over his limit. If that is a flame out, what would you call anyone else bar Jonas?
Remco is overrated as a GC rider. Stop the hype. The guy was 9 minutes back at the Tour. He’s simply not on the same level as Pogacar and Jonas. He’s good for one day races and TTs. His Vuelta win does not count since he beat a bunch of bums.
You got some high standards. 😂👊
Overrated as a GC rider? He's literally the 3rd strongest GC riders when in great shape.
Pog was 7:30 back on Jonas in '23 TdF.
Yes, currently he has not been at Jonas and Pogacar current level. However he's younger and actually pushed better numbers than Jonas or Pog did at the same age.
If he's not considered a good GC rider, you have no good GC riders outside of Pogacar and Jonas.
His vuelta was against a normal field. Basically the same as saying Roglic GT wins all don't matter because they were against bums.
"bunch of bums"??? You think a lot of the majority of pro riders, you must be quite a rider yourself.
I love Remco, but i think he doesnt stand a chance to beat either Pogadcar or Vinegard and i wish id swallow my words
VW 🥕?
The disrespect in this comment section to Remco is insane. Remco was is absolutely in the league with Jonas and Tadej
Nope.
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You call that a little bit heavy? Damn! pro standards are too high 😂
He was being polite.
If you want to beat the best in the world you have to be in the proper shape... he isn't talking about your local group ride...
Hehehe. Have you seen Pogi, Primoz, and Jonas with their shirts off. The good news though for Remco and the big take away here…… Remco can still improve, weight wise. 😂👊
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Let's hope Remco can close the gap a little bit more this year.
REMCO crashed in December? No way. That man is a bike handling wizard! Remco doesn't crash!
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Don't think this take will age well.
All my videos age well. 😂👊
Remco is no match to pogacar
Wait, you drove a Corrado across Spain? 🤘🤌🤘🤌🤘I knew I loved this channel!!
Yes I did. Many times 😂. . I wanted to ship the car back to the US when I left Europe but my wife just said that was silly. She was right of course but I still miss it. 😂🥲👊
@ mine was beautiful. The purchase of a silly boy in his early 20’s. Didn’t last but loved just the same. Your stories make the channel special 🙏🙏
answer: NO
Safe bet 👊💵