A normal dad would be happy for his son when he gets a girlfriend. But he’s so mean to Gabriella the only time they interact just because he’s mad at Troy. She didn’t do anything don’t yell at her
I feel like the worst part about this kind of manipulative person is that he genuinely thinks he's doing what's best for his kid, because he's convinced himself that his perfect idea of basketballer Troy following in his daddy's footsteps is the right thing for Troy. When he gives Troy a hard time about theater, he sees it as "tough love", helping to keep Troy "on the right track". He genuinely cannot see what he's doing wrong, and based on the end of the series, probably never will. He never apologized to Troy for trying to force a specific future onto him, he just hugged him after he realized he wasn't going to get his way. No doubt the minute Troy has problems in college, or he and Gabriella have issues, he'd slam Troy in the face with "I told you so".
@@The1andonlysharpshooter I believe so, My dad was like that with my brother, Me, my brother and sister all did theatre and my father wanted my brother to do sports. My brother did football for my dad for a little bit but ultimately he didn't stay with it because it wasn't his passion.
Thank you so much for acknowledging that Sharpay isn’t nice. I been waiting for more people to say it. And I agree that coach Bolton is living his dream through his son. Troy needed other interests besides Basketball. What’s he gonna do if he gets injured, and can’t play professionally?
When i was a kid i loved sharpay, but unfortunately i was peer pressured to hate her so i kept telling everyone i liked gabriella instead (i still like her but shes not my favorite) so i was really happy that there are people that like her as much as i do. She's not perfect i dont like how she bullies her brother and the others, but for some reason i cant hate her 😅❤. She rekindled my love for pink and "girly" outfits (i was so emo back then 😅) I think what really sealed the deal for her as my favorite was when i watched film theory's take on high school Musical.
It’s actually confirmed Coach Bolton had Troy when he was 18, he was a teen dad. Once you get older you realize he wasn’t all that much in the wrong, he didn’t want Troy to go through the same thing he did, and to not make the same mistakes.
I don't think you'll know who this is, but to me, Bart Johnson, the man who played Mr. Bolton, resembles Brian Cant. Brian Cant was a British children's television host who hosted a television series "Play School" from 1964-1985 alongside an entire cast of other hosts. He was also the main host for the spin off "Play Away" from 1971-1985. He died in 2017, but if you look him up, you can sort of see a resemblance between him and Johnson. It's really strange. Also, great video.
Hey! you’re right, I didn’t know Brian Cant. Just looked him up and don’t really see the resemblance that well, but maybe it’s their mannerisms etc as well! Thanks for the kind words! X
@@annevanderelst247 I think so. Maybe it's just the face I saw in Bart Johnson. My dad loved Play School when he was younger and watched it all the time in the 70s. Brian Cant was one of his heroes. Oh, anytime.
I think "villain" is probably a bridge too far. Coach Bolton is what I'd call a "passive antagonist:" not the main problem by any means, but still willing to throw gasoline on the fire. HSM is (obviously) a coming-of-age story, where the driving conflict is the characters figuring out what they want out of life. Bolton's role in this regard is that of a force trying to pull Troy in one specific direction, not noticing or caring what else might be going on in the rest of the story, i.e. the life Troy is living when outside his father's presence. But even then, I'd say he isn't malicious about it, just severely tunnel-visioned; those scenes where Troy talks back and Bolton stays silent, I interpret that as him having a mini "My God, what have I done?" moment, realizing he'd pushed Troy too hard and trying to come to terms with it. I have no doubt Bolton has his own baggage and hangups that he's, by no small measure, exerting onto his son. But he's not really a bad guy for it, just someone who needs to dial it back a notch or three.
can’t wait for the video on the whole trilogy!! recently rewatched them and saw the third in a packed movie theatre. awesome experience with everyone singing along and laughing at certain details :) really reignited my love for the films
He never seemed bad to me compared to lots of high school coaches lol he was tame compared to coaches who were also dads to my teammates. Sports are intense esp for ppl who’ve started young. Coaches/parents forget that all the time unfortunately. (It’s still wrong obviously, and very damaging)
Most of the cast are a bunch of teenagers who as you said are impressionable, and aren't fully emotionally developed yet, overly concerned with cliques and finding identity in role playing rather than in themselves. Of course the villain comes down to the most developed adult character/s. Even the theater teacher plays a role as an antagonist when she makes it difficult for Troy and Gabriella to audition. Sharpay's not nice, but she is also just fighting to remain relevant in the cursed system.
i thought villain of trilogy were status quo and the future all characters that are label as villains are more antagonistic cause their worse villains then spotlight hogging diva and coach with glory day issuses
Everyone around Troy was quite manipulative to him. His dad and his team put this massive pressure on him to be what they wanted him to be, disregarding his feelings and needs for their own. It baffles me that people see Troy as the villain and Sharpay as this misunderstood character when she was just as manipulative as everyone else. She only cared about what she wanted, she was just more brazen about it.
I feel like there just is no consistency with them, she’s very mean to him throughout the whole first film, but then out of the blue she gets paired with him in the lantarn scene at the end of the second film and from that moment onwards every time it’s a couple dance, they get paired together. But with no build up or explanation. It’s bizarre
In the after credits scene of HSM 1 Sharpay declares that he makes the best cookies and Zeke wants to make her the perfect Creme Brulee then she's right back to Troy
@@BradleyBoy oooooh I didn't realise there was an after credits scene! Ok, well then you're so right, why does she start swooning over Troy again then 😅
Love the video 💗 but can we talk abt how in the 3rd movie that only the seniors are the leads…(like I understand the one girl wrote it but) I can only imagine being anyone else during auditions like… Edit: what even happened the next year???
I agree with you, troy's dad really the villain here, but he's kinda realistically right.... scholarship & nba money are amazing, if troy get's to the nba they'll set for life their lack of communication to see both sides (bball & theater) & trying to compromise are nonexistent that's why troy compromise going to berkley to pursue both troy & his dad only speak on practice court are just a guy thing, maybe some kinda safe space for both to speak out their feelings, lot of athlete are more emotional on court instead of off court troy's dad being hyper all the time are typical athlete behavior that they have to be constantly on edge for the game but they tend to don't know how to turn it off at home to the point in some case domestic violence happen
I get that financial stability is amazing, but maybe Troy wouldn’t mind trading that off to pursue acting. I agree though, their lack of communication pushes them into this toxic situation
@annevanderelst247 well, the director confirmed Ryan has a crush on Zeke, but my theory about Zeke being gay and only with Sharpay because he's in denial that he truly likes Ryan is all me
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Except he has the iconic line “What the heck are those two doing in a tree?”
Haha very true!
Chad and Troy sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G
@@horchatagirlypop hahaha
A normal dad would be happy for his son when he gets a girlfriend. But he’s so mean to Gabriella the only time they interact just because he’s mad at Troy. She didn’t do anything don’t yell at her
Literally!
I feel like the worst part about this kind of manipulative person is that he genuinely thinks he's doing what's best for his kid, because he's convinced himself that his perfect idea of basketballer Troy following in his daddy's footsteps is the right thing for Troy. When he gives Troy a hard time about theater, he sees it as "tough love", helping to keep Troy "on the right track". He genuinely cannot see what he's doing wrong, and based on the end of the series, probably never will. He never apologized to Troy for trying to force a specific future onto him, he just hugged him after he realized he wasn't going to get his way. No doubt the minute Troy has problems in college, or he and Gabriella have issues, he'd slam Troy in the face with "I told you so".
Yuuuuuup 👀
i never really paid much attention to Coach Bolton but now that you've pointed it out, i do see him as the villain lols
Riiiiight? 😅
I never really liked Troy's dad, I was always like what's your problem? If he wants to do theatre too then let him...
Yeah he’s too much
His own father probably didn’t allow him 💀
@@The1andonlysharpshooter omg yeeeeessss 👏🏻
@@annevanderelst247 it’s the generational “trauma” for me
@@The1andonlysharpshooter I believe so, My dad was like that with my brother, Me, my brother and sister all did theatre and my father wanted my brother to do sports. My brother did football for my dad for a little bit but ultimately he didn't stay with it because it wasn't his passion.
Finally, someone who doesn't pretend that Sharpay is a good person.
Right?
Sharpay, my theatre kid queen
She is iconic
Thank you so much for acknowledging that Sharpay isn’t nice. I been waiting for more people to say it. And I agree that coach Bolton is living his dream through his son. Troy needed other interests besides Basketball. What’s he gonna do if he gets injured, and can’t play professionally?
Good point!
When i was a kid i loved sharpay, but unfortunately i was peer pressured to hate her so i kept telling everyone i liked gabriella instead (i still like her but shes not my favorite) so i was really happy that there are people that like her as much as i do. She's not perfect i dont like how she bullies her brother and the others, but for some reason i cant hate her 😅❤. She rekindled my love for pink and "girly" outfits (i was so emo back then 😅) I think what really sealed the deal for her as my favorite was when i watched film theory's take on high school Musical.
It’s actually confirmed Coach Bolton had Troy when he was 18, he was a teen dad.
Once you get older you realize he wasn’t all that much in the wrong, he didn’t want Troy to go through the same thing he did, and to not make the same mistakes.
Wait what? Where is this confirmed? 👀
Give us your source!
@@truthseeker9249 second this
I feel like they’re mixing it up 17 again? Zac Efron is in that movie and he gives up basketball to have a child with his girlfriend.
@@ramenstitches Ooooh, yes maybe
I don't think you'll know who this is, but to me, Bart Johnson, the man who played Mr. Bolton, resembles Brian Cant.
Brian Cant was a British children's television host who hosted a television series "Play School" from 1964-1985 alongside an entire cast of other hosts. He was also the main host for the spin off "Play Away" from 1971-1985.
He died in 2017, but if you look him up, you can sort of see a resemblance between him and Johnson. It's really strange.
Also, great video.
Hey! you’re right, I didn’t know Brian Cant. Just looked him up and don’t really see the resemblance that well, but maybe it’s their mannerisms etc as well! Thanks for the kind words! X
@@annevanderelst247 I think so. Maybe it's just the face I saw in Bart Johnson.
My dad loved Play School when he was younger and watched it all the time in the 70s. Brian Cant was one of his heroes.
Oh, anytime.
I think "villain" is probably a bridge too far. Coach Bolton is what I'd call a "passive antagonist:" not the main problem by any means, but still willing to throw gasoline on the fire.
HSM is (obviously) a coming-of-age story, where the driving conflict is the characters figuring out what they want out of life. Bolton's role in this regard is that of a force trying to pull Troy in one specific direction, not noticing or caring what else might be going on in the rest of the story, i.e. the life Troy is living when outside his father's presence. But even then, I'd say he isn't malicious about it, just severely tunnel-visioned; those scenes where Troy talks back and Bolton stays silent, I interpret that as him having a mini "My God, what have I done?" moment, realizing he'd pushed Troy too hard and trying to come to terms with it.
I have no doubt Bolton has his own baggage and hangups that he's, by no small measure, exerting onto his son. But he's not really a bad guy for it, just someone who needs to dial it back a notch or three.
Yes, I agree that the real “villain” is life pushing them to make big choices
can’t wait for the video on the whole trilogy!! recently rewatched them and saw the third in a packed movie theatre. awesome experience with everyone singing along and laughing at certain details :) really reignited my love for the films
Aaaw that sounds so lovely! 😍
He never seemed bad to me compared to lots of high school coaches lol he was tame compared to coaches who were also dads to my teammates. Sports are intense esp for ppl who’ve started young. Coaches/parents forget that all the time unfortunately. (It’s still wrong obviously, and very damaging)
Oh God, this is tame?! 🙈
i never thought about this but it makes so much sense
Thank you
Most of the cast are a bunch of teenagers who as you said are impressionable, and aren't fully emotionally developed yet, overly concerned with cliques and finding identity in role playing rather than in themselves. Of course the villain comes down to the most developed adult character/s. Even the theater teacher plays a role as an antagonist when she makes it difficult for Troy and Gabriella to audition. Sharpay's not nice, but she is also just fighting to remain relevant in the cursed system.
Loved these last two videos- you gained a subscriber!
Oh yay, thanks! 😘
loooove this type of video!!! im new here, i love the hsmcu and love to se when someone knows and love like i do. keep em comin hahhaha new sub
Yay, welcome! ☺️
i thought villain of trilogy were status quo and the future all characters that are label as villains are more antagonistic cause their worse villains then spotlight hogging diva and coach with glory day issuses
Everyone around Troy was quite manipulative to him. His dad and his team put this massive pressure on him to be what they wanted him to be, disregarding his feelings and needs for their own. It baffles me that people see Troy as the villain and Sharpay as this misunderstood character when she was just as manipulative as everyone else. She only cared about what she wanted, she was just more brazen about it.
The “Troy is the villain” theory is honestly insane
Sharpay is a queeeeen in her Fabulous Adventure
I need to watch this. Pronto!
I support women's rights AND WRONGS (Sharpay), but I never support any man's wrongs (Jack Bolton)
Haha, I like it. I might start adopting the same mindset
Who else thought he was hotter than Troy?
Hahaha I didn’t but I can definitely see why you felt that way 😏
Sharpay cheated on Zeke but people aren't ready for that convo
Wow, big statement here 🤩
Or at the very least strung Zeke along to get to Troy
I feel like there just is no consistency with them, she’s very mean to him throughout the whole first film, but then out of the blue she gets paired with him in the lantarn scene at the end of the second film and from that moment onwards every time it’s a couple dance, they get paired together. But with no build up or explanation. It’s bizarre
In the after credits scene of HSM 1 Sharpay declares that he makes the best cookies and Zeke wants to make her the perfect Creme Brulee then she's right back to Troy
@@BradleyBoy oooooh I didn't realise there was an after credits scene! Ok, well then you're so right, why does she start swooning over Troy again then 😅
Love the video 💗 but can we talk abt how in the 3rd movie that only the seniors are the leads…(like I understand the one girl wrote it but) I can only imagine being anyone else during auditions like…
Edit: what even happened the next year???
I agree with you, troy's dad really the villain here, but he's kinda realistically right....
scholarship & nba money are amazing, if troy get's to the nba they'll set for life
their lack of communication to see both sides (bball & theater) & trying to compromise are nonexistent
that's why troy compromise going to berkley to pursue both
troy & his dad only speak on practice court are just a guy thing, maybe some kinda safe space for both to speak out their feelings, lot of athlete are more emotional on court instead of off court
troy's dad being hyper all the time are typical athlete behavior that they have to be constantly on edge for the game but they tend to don't know how to turn it off at home to the point in some case domestic violence happen
I get that financial stability is amazing, but maybe Troy wouldn’t mind trading that off to pursue acting. I agree though, their lack of communication pushes them into this toxic situation
I have never seen this perspective before and its interesting
Yeah, same! But once you see it though, it’s hard to unsee 😅
have never liked that man
He's too much
Unpopular opinion: I think Ryan and Zeke should have ended up together
Ooooh never heard this theory flying about
@annevanderelst247 well, the director confirmed Ryan has a crush on Zeke, but my theory about Zeke being gay and only with Sharpay because he's in denial that he truly likes Ryan is all me
I don't know who you are but I really like you
@@sarahsari100 aaah thank you haha ❤️
this makes sharpay look like saint
😅
basketball is just his special interest! he's literally neurodivergent and a major
Coach Bolton then? Or Troy?
@@annevanderelst247 I'm guessing they mean Troy.