I am enjoying learning about the history of England especially the early kings and the Plantagenets! Thank you for making these documentaries. Love all of them!
These didn't make them... They've stolen them.. This doc series and more have been on for yrs.. check ouy my medieval platlist for this series and others.. All in chronological order..
When Henry the 2nd son rebelled with his brothers, I bet 100$ that there was one of those weird family moments at the end of it where Henry the 2nd was like: "I'm so proud of you, son. You were so close , you know?" "Yeah, pop. I really gave that Ole rebellion a whirl."
For now, but not for long I fear. Identity politics and historical revisionism will erase English history, indeed ALL Western history, as racist, misogynistic, homophobic debacle and disaster.
So true, and when you get down to it, your history is so rich and lengthy that its my history as well and we live thousands of miles away from each other.... Cheers!🥂
The intro makes the Plantagenets sound like sexy, ruthless overlords who were brilliant tacticians - but what's ironic is that it's a legacy of incompetence as much as monarchy. Henry's son Richard I didn't give a fig for England, and his ransom crippled England's economy. Then Richard's brother John lost all the family's French possessions and had to sign the Magna Carta to survive politically. Then John's son Henry III was a weak shadow of a king. Really the only powerful Plantagenet kings past then were Edwards I & III, and the usurper Henry IV and his son Henry V. The Yorkists before Henry VII were on very unsteady ground, which is why they didn't last long.
Henry II, Edward I and Edward III were all talented kings (although both Henry and Edward's talents declined markedly as they aged). Henry IV was a marked improvement over Richard II but he was also deeply miserable as King. By 1410, Henry V was effectively running the country. Speaking of Henry V, he was a talented king who probably would've completed Edward III's goal of kingship over both England and France, but for his early death. Henry VI was a disaster. Edward IV was a puppet for the first half of his reign, although in the second half after dispatching of Warwick, he asserted himself admirably. Richard III was not nearly so bad as the play makes him, but he almost assuredly had his nephews murdered after promising his older brother (whom he had previously been very loyal to) that he would protect them.
@@lawrence142002 Yup I know all that and I didn't say Henry II was incompetent. Edward IV's best days were on campaign for his father Richard's claim, and then toppling Henry VI. After that, he faded as king. And Richard III doesn't even deserve to be on the rolls of kingship.
Slander. Richard I was the most competent Plantagenet king, appointing many competent officials who weren't greedy and had the political acumen to balance out his ambitious younger brother John. His ransom definitely did not cripple England, and he was on track to even subjugate the whole of France when he unluckily died. It was John that ultimately undid the Plantagenet possessions. Richard even left him a powerful network of alliances and loyal lords against Philip II of France, but he had to alienate so many of them, even his own mother.
Henry did not kill Beckett. His knights did after reacting to one of the King's frequent rants. Henry was blamed because they were his knights and it was his rant.
He allowed it by making his barons peers and succumbing to their views and lust for vengeance on Becket, and the opinions of the women in his court who resented the Saxon from his very origin as Henry’s companion.
31:25 that lady holding her food filled me with suspense. I swear I thought she was going to drop it having the meals stacked like that. Awesome documentary btw
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@@stevekoe You're very welcome. I read another post which said jumping forward and then going back to the beginning works. I agree with you, far too much advertising. I would never have gone for an ad blocker had it not been for such a plethora of advertising "tailored" to me.
@Obtuse One Well said sir. Richard 'the lion heart' is one of the very worst Kings in English history. He spent the vast mojority of his time galavanting around like a spoilt brat (at vast expence to the English people, for whom he did NOTHING), only to get captured and imprisoned (and thus screw the country again for literally a King's ransom), only to return and screw the country out of yet MORE money, only to f*ck off again and die of the shits! And by doing so he bankrupted the country so that his brother King John could do nothing to protect the continental territories, and thereby take all the rap! And what's more, his wife Berengaria of Navarre, so called Queen of England, is the ONLY so called English monarch NEVER to have even set foot on English soil! Seriously, how this leech ever got implanted into the minds of Englishmen that he was a any kind of hero, makes you wonder who would benefit from such a blatant distortion of history, doesn't it? 🤔
The Eleanor of Aquitaine trilogy by Elizabeth Chadwick is an excellent look at both Louis VII and Henry ll’s reign from the queen’s POV. E of A was a formidable force of nature herself.
I still am not sure why she felt the need to betray Henry he was a relatively nice husband for the time he let her rule her domain in France he let her get away with a lot let her hold power and she turned all her sons against him .
I think one can divide Henry's reign into two parts. The first with the legal reforms which are the base of English law today and the second, documented here, from 1170, which was the fighting with his family.
Eh it’s hard to say if Henry wanted Beckett dead or not. I’m inclined to think NOT because Beckett’s death caused him so many problems. This is one case where I kind of believe the “it was an accident/misunderstanding” argument.
John may have been Henry's favorite, but he was nothing like him. Henry had both administrative and soldierly ability. He did pass on his talent as a soldier to Richard, but his other sons were next to useless. John was an incompetent thief who loved to rape (even by the relaxed standard of the era) and he murdered his own nephew Arthur (son of his deceased older brother Geoffrey) in order to make sure that he got the crown.
greatest king of a nostalgic empire, he had incredible emotional intelligence and personal bravery, capacity to see through his mistakes and rise in body and soul to be forgiven and win hearts and minds. That is what makes a near perfect successful medieval king. This depiction is always inspiring to watch, his absolution and love.
He was known to be liberal with his close associates and could take constructive criticism. There is a story about a visit to Chinon were he apparently went missing within the castle causing a little panic to his personal protection people. He was discovered in an obscure room sitting on a stool working a piece of leather when found they tore a strip off him complaining it was difficult to do the task asked of them when he f**** *** to do the work of a tanners wife. He apologised and said he'll make them more aware in future.
I was lambasted by people for saying that paying for TH-cam was wrong. I have to admit I was in the wrong. Yes it may be a Little expensive but I find that I am now watching TH-cam without adverts than watching basic sky. Yes sad I know but worth the money. There is so much content on here
Dan Jones never totally speak bad about the Tudors, when it comes of Henry VII and his poor claim to the Throne, Jones prefer to divert to his mother, Margaret, how much she loved her son and how much she sacrifice to rise him to power, nothing about the Tudors descending from a bastard line of the Plantagenet, that some of the nobles families of his own era believed that he descended from a bastard son of a maid.
These didn't make them... They've stolen them.. This doc series and more have been on for yrs.. check ouy my medieval platlist for this series and others.. All in chronological order..
I take great offense to the tag line referring that Henry II murdered Thomas Beckett. He didn't. He took responsibility for it as it was four of his knights that did the deed, as a true ruler should, but all he did was voice his displeasure at his old friend.
"...his Plantagenet rage comes out..." What bad history. Henry's father Geoffrey of Anjou was a cold, calculating sort of fellow. The out-of-control temper came from his great-grandfather William the Conqueror on his mother's side. Yes, this raging was passed down from there to future Plantagenets, but it's out of context to credit it as a family characteristic until another generation had come to power. If your mother's grandfather had flaming red hair, and your father's name was Snerd, and you were born with red hair, would it be right to call your hair "That famous Snerd red hair"? Not until your descendants passed it along.
In the Robin hood films wicked prince John taxes takes the poor while good king Richard was of fighting the crusade how do people think Richard payed for his never ending wars and lust for glory
Beckett was always a fanatic (Henry's mother, the Empress Matilda warned Henry against creating him Archbishop of Canterbury but he didn't listen) and a fanatic he died
The adverts wouldn't be SO bad, if the sound weren't SO excessive; 15 adverts per video is a bit ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as the price of YT Premium. Otherwise, I really love the content.
It's been on Timeline (another one of their channels) for years, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was on Absolute History too. So just a grab for more ad revenue by changing the title lol.
@Jennifer Blane You're thinking of Geoffrey the bastard son. He did join the church, I'm talking about Geoffrey, the fourth son who became Duke of Brittany
Geoffrey was actually 3rd son of 4: Young Henry, Richard, Geoffrey and John. Henry died young, Richard preferred war/Crusades, Geoffrey basically forgotten (except for his son, Arthur, killed by John) and lastly John who did become King (Magna Carta fame).
I would really like to find about the cast and crew of this documentary,E esp. the Actors(I tried IMDB). ,their performance made Dan's storytelling much more captivating. Can somebody find out?
Documents are more likely to get damaged if you are wearing gloves. You can feel them more easily with bare hands and so are much gentler. This way is best practice.
@@JoHarris68 Fabric is more abrasive than fingertips. I think they have to wash their hands to remove excess oils and lipids before handling the old paper.
Common misconception that the oils in fingers are damaging to old material. In fact the material on gloves and fabric are a lot more abrasive and damaging to the material. So long as your hands are properly washed and dried before and after handling it's safer to use your bare hands when handling old artefacts.
Hey everyone, instead of whinging about ads, maybe get an adblocker. They're free and we don't have to waste time slogging through repeated comments about how the ads are distracting.
I don't think that the dynasty was known as the Plantagenets till Richard of York used the name toward the end of the dynasty. They were better known as the Angevins (i.e. from Anjou).
I may not like Henry as a person. But his atonement in Canterbury (walking barefoot through the muddy and dangerous crowded streets from the city gates to the shrine of his former BFF and then being whipped by 100 monks 5 times each with a birch rod after he commanded them to) is pretty darn badass. Might he have done it for PR reasons? Probably. But the fact that he put himself through so much pain and humiliation with no guarantee it would work makes me wonder if he was being genuine in his remorse and wanted to prove to Beckett and God that he truly didn't mean for it to happen.
This BS clickbait just popped up in my feed, so I just had to jump in and set the record straight; Henry II did NOT 'murder' the Archbishop Thomas Becket. There, done.
looks like it. I have already watched all these stories from other channel and was excited with this channel that they had new stories or point of views to out forward but no, am so disappointed!
If you don't like it better get off youtube ... EVERYBODY does it ... I don't like it, I don't even like that there is almost NEVER the date of first broadcast ... but if it bothers you there'll never be a change so ... adjust!
Henrry 2 was Duc of Normandy b4 becoming King of England.this would mean he was of viking dna Yes they were quite savage at this time.i am not religious but it was a good thing that the church was there to curb some of those exesses.Plantagenet.the name of Plantagenet is taken from this wild yellow busch that grows in Brittany and everywhere in France really.very strong very tenacious." Plante a genets" a bit like dandelion 😃 .Henry the 8th tried his very best to destroy them all.another monster.there is some left i hear.
I seem to recall there is a Plantagenet living in Australia claiming Queen Elizabeth the second is not legitimate. The reality is all the Kings and Queens were there through force of arms while claiming some kind of special arrangement with God.
I absolutely loved this story. I've always been a huge fan of the Tudors so I thought I'd learn more of English history. Americans aren't taught any English history. If you can't interest them in there own history there's no way you can interest them in a thousand years of complicated but fascinating history.
Lady Siam -- How do you know that Americans are not taught English history? I know that I was, as well as my country's history. You're showing your ignorance by placing all of us in the same basket. There are many, many, many American students that love history. How much do you know about America's history, huh??
@@toniremer1594 Exactly. If you're not taught what you want to learn, go learn it yourself. It's not a priority of American schools to teach the history of another country and vice versa lol I can't stand when people say stuff like that. School can't teach you everything. It's up to you to never stop learning!
They didn't speak Modern french or even old french though, they spoke Norman French and later Anglo-Norman French. Norman French sounds quite different to Modern French and sounds like French with some Norse mixed in. The peasants also didn't speak Modern English, they spoke a later form of Anglo-Saxon or maybe early English. Anglo-Norman French and Anglo Saxon eventually became one language each influencing each other. This is why some argue that English is a Romantic language and not a Germanic language. The truth lies in between.
Geoffrey's son, Arthur, should have been king, but Ole Uncle John "disappeared" him. What is it with dysfunctional uncles back then (thinking Richard III)!!
Normandy kings More Vikings than French. Angel saxons we’re basically early Vikings. England is really a Viking country with a few kelts left in Wales. That explains the violent history.
They spoke a version of old French that sounded like a blend of German and French. Nothing like modern French but I'm guessing the show's budget didn't include language coaching in archaic languages for the actors. Old English was still spoken by the peasants until the mid 12th century when it was gradually replaced with middle english (Chaucer)
Henry: WHAT DO YOU MEAN MY KNIGHTS STORMED CANTERBERRY? FUCK OH FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!! I NEVER ORDERED THAT, okay okay so what about Beckett? ARE YOU SHITTING ME? WELL WHERE ARE YOU? Wait a second you're hiding in a janitor's closest calling me in secret? Wow that's wimpy even for you. Oh oh I'm sorry I thought my Captain of the Guard could keep four drunk knights at bay. DO DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO TO MY APPROVAL RAITINGS???
GUILTY! I don't believe that innocent act for a second ... those knight killed the priest behind my back ... yeeeeah ... riiiiight .... didn't know a thing about it ... sure ... HA!
You need to take anything that Dan Jones says with a grain of salt, he may be accurate in anything before Henry VII come along, but his commentary gets very muddle when it comes to Edward IV, Richard III and Henry VII, because he is following the footsteps of David Starkey in that aspect, never question the past when that past question the legitimacy of the present, historians should investigate the past and investigate all the hypothesis not be a mouthpiece for the state.
You also know we will be here forever if they had to really tell the whole truth. It's only a one hour show,so small nuggets so as not to replace actual education in schools . This is entertainment.
They didn't speak Modern french as depicted here or even old french though, they spoke Norman French and later Anglo-Norman French. Norman French sounds quite different to Modern French and sounds like French with some Norse mixed in. The peasants also didn't speak Modern English, they spoke a later form of Anglo-Saxon or maybe early English. Anglo-Norman French and Anglo Saxon eventually became one language each influencing each other. This is why some argue that English is a Romantic language and not a Germanic language. The truth lies in between.
They were Normans. The word is a contraction of north and man with the t and the h dropped. Those men from up north, Rollo, a viking from up north was granted land that they called Normandy. Plantagenet is based on a type of decorative ornament that the Angevins liked to wear.
@@dorianphilotheates3769 I mean he tried leading his "supporters" in the second battle of Saint Albans and ended up sitting under a tree during the whole battle
Far too many advertising instances and the sound is too soft so that these advertisements come across like ezploding bombs. i unsubscribed. I don't like such foul tricks.
I am enjoying learning about the history of England especially the early kings and the Plantagenets! Thank you for making these documentaries. Love all of them!
These didn't make them... They've stolen them..
This doc series and more have been on for yrs.. check ouy my medieval platlist for this series and others.. All in chronological order..
LMAO, if you think this channel made these vids then you are 🤪
When Henry the 2nd son rebelled with his brothers, I bet 100$ that there was one of those weird family moments at the end of it where Henry the 2nd was like:
"I'm so proud of you, son. You were so close , you know?"
"Yeah, pop. I really gave that Ole rebellion a whirl."
...... "tyrannised their way to spectacular success", great line.
These are fantastic documentaries, we have such rich history.
For now, but not for long I fear. Identity politics and historical revisionism will erase English history, indeed ALL Western history, as racist, misogynistic, homophobic debacle and disaster.
So true, and when you get down to it, your history is so rich and lengthy that its my history as well and we live thousands of miles away from each other....
Cheers!🥂
The greatest.
The intro makes the Plantagenets sound like sexy, ruthless overlords who were brilliant tacticians - but what's ironic is that it's a legacy of incompetence as much as monarchy. Henry's son Richard I didn't give a fig for England, and his ransom crippled England's economy. Then Richard's brother John lost all the family's French possessions and had to sign the Magna Carta to survive politically. Then John's son Henry III was a weak shadow of a king. Really the only powerful Plantagenet kings past then were Edwards I & III, and the usurper Henry IV and his son Henry V. The Yorkists before Henry VII were on very unsteady ground, which is why they didn't last long.
Henry II, Edward I and Edward III were all talented kings (although both Henry and Edward's talents declined markedly as they aged). Henry IV was a marked improvement over Richard II but he was also deeply miserable as King. By 1410, Henry V was effectively running the country. Speaking of Henry V, he was a talented king who probably would've completed Edward III's goal of kingship over both England and France, but for his early death. Henry VI was a disaster. Edward IV was a puppet for the first half of his reign, although in the second half after dispatching of Warwick, he asserted himself admirably. Richard III was not nearly so bad as the play makes him, but he almost assuredly had his nephews murdered after promising his older brother (whom he had previously been very loyal to) that he would protect them.
@@lawrence142002 Yup I know all that and I didn't say Henry II was incompetent. Edward IV's best days were on campaign for his father Richard's claim, and then toppling Henry VI. After that, he faded as king. And Richard III doesn't even deserve to be on the rolls of kingship.
@@OrchestrationOnline Richard III had all the makings of a fine king, his reputation has been marred by Tudor propaganda
Slander. Richard I was the most competent Plantagenet king, appointing many competent officials who weren't greedy and had the political acumen to balance out his ambitious younger brother John. His ransom definitely did not cripple England, and he was on track to even subjugate the whole of France when he unluckily died. It was John that ultimately undid the Plantagenet possessions. Richard even left him a powerful network of alliances and loyal lords against Philip II of France, but he had to alienate so many of them, even his own mother.
Edward 4th the powerhouse like 1 &3
Henry did not kill Beckett. His knights did after reacting to one of the King's frequent rants. Henry was blamed because they were his knights and it was his rant.
I believe "Who will rid me of this turbulent priest" was all the "prompting" Henry's knights needed!!
@@judymac2590 k
So the story goes 😉
@@Jelly_Juice2006 that can be said of every historical event then.
He allowed it by making his barons peers and succumbing to their views and lust for vengeance on Becket, and the opinions of the women in his court who resented the Saxon from his very origin as Henry’s companion.
31:25 that lady holding her food filled me with suspense. I swear I thought she was going to drop it having the meals stacked like that. Awesome documentary btw
This should be mandatory viewing before watching 1968 film, The Lion In Winter
Please, cut down the amount of advertisements. Eleven ads in a video is definitely too much to bear. I understand you need to make money, but that doesn’t mean torturing your viewers/potential subscribers while at it.
Try an adblocker. I have hardly any ads when using most sites (this is NOT an ad for them , I just us them) getadblock.com/ or download it. Usually the ads drop out.
Harry Kemp Thanks for the suggestion.
Tana T.P It seems that you don’t take kindly to consumers’ feedback. I feel sorry for your customers that tried to give you feedbacks.
@@stevekoe You're very welcome. I read another post which said jumping forward and then going back to the beginning works. I agree with you, far too much advertising. I would never have gone for an ad blocker had it not been for such a plethora of advertising "tailored" to me.
Pay for premium no ads
"Can't we all get along?"
- Thomas Beckett
😂
His son Richard is “The lion heart”. And his bro is good ole prince John. Robin Hood stuff and the end of the Angevin Empire.
@Obtuse One eathelstan grandson of Alfred was also King of Engeland. Who considered himself english.
I am sorry for the gramar
@Obtuse One Well said sir. Richard 'the lion heart' is one of the very worst Kings in English history. He spent the vast mojority of his time galavanting around like a spoilt brat (at vast expence to the English people, for whom he did NOTHING), only to get captured and imprisoned (and thus screw the country again for literally a King's ransom), only to return and screw the country out of yet MORE money, only to f*ck off again and die of the shits! And by doing so he bankrupted the country so that his brother King John could do nothing to protect the continental territories, and thereby take all the rap! And what's more, his wife Berengaria of Navarre, so called Queen of England, is the ONLY so called English monarch NEVER to have even set foot on English soil!
Seriously, how this leech ever got implanted into the minds of Englishmen that he was a any kind of hero, makes you wonder who would benefit from such a blatant distortion of history, doesn't it? 🤔
@Obtuse One But Henry VIII was a Tudor, a Welsh dynasty... I don't think you understand what 'English' means.
I thought John was youngest of Henry II sons, not brother. John was brother to Richard the Lionheart??
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The Eleanor of Aquitaine trilogy by Elizabeth Chadwick is an excellent look at both Louis VII and Henry ll’s reign from the queen’s POV. E of A was a formidable force of nature herself.
Which is yet another nail in the BS feminist narrative.
@@sunnyjim1355 so true my friend. I can name 50+ women who had significant power way before the modern feminist movement of the 1970s onwards.
I still am not sure why she felt the need to betray Henry he was a relatively nice husband for the time he let her rule her domain in France he let her get away with a lot let her hold power and she turned all her sons against him .
love it !! Great history
Thanks for posting .
I think one can divide Henry's reign into two parts. The first with the legal reforms which are the base of English law today and the second, documented here, from 1170, which was the fighting with his family.
Eh it’s hard to say if Henry wanted Beckett dead or not. I’m inclined to think NOT because Beckett’s death caused him so many problems.
This is one case where I kind of believe the “it was an accident/misunderstanding” argument.
"His friend he accidentaly murdered..."
I never tought you could accidentaly murder someone.
I wonder how that would pass in court...
Eric Leblanc
Manslaughter obviously
@Clappy Wrong. 'Manslaughter' is NOT 'murder'. Get a clue.
Under RICO (racketeering influencing & corrupt organizations) the case could be made to convict Henry II for Becket's murder.
@Clappy Here I am 4 months later laughing my head off at your comment..Bravooo!
The term 'negligent homicide' might fit.
“John, John, bad King John, shamed the throne that he sat on; not a scruple, not a straw, cared this monarch for the law...”.
LOL NICE
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sc information - Yes!
John may have been Henry's favorite, but he was nothing like him. Henry had both administrative and soldierly ability. He did pass on his talent as a soldier to Richard, but his other sons were next to useless. John was an incompetent thief who loved to rape (even by the relaxed standard of the era) and he murdered his own nephew Arthur (son of his deceased older brother Geoffrey) in order to make sure that he got the crown.
thank you very much for this video i acced my history test :D
greatest king of a nostalgic empire, he had incredible emotional intelligence and personal bravery, capacity to see through his mistakes and rise in body and soul to be forgiven and win hearts and minds. That is what makes a near perfect successful medieval king. This depiction is always inspiring to watch, his absolution and love.
Everyone complains about the ads. I haven’t seen one in any of these Real Royalty vids except for the one that plays when the vid loads.
I have not seen anyone complaining about Ads
As I was reading this, an ad came up. Dang.
This documentary is distracting me from all the advertisements I came to watch! More ads, please.
That's funny!!
Mary Meeks - 🙂
Lol
Use as block or TH-cam vanced
Predator Pool29 - Thanks!
He was known to be liberal with his close associates and could take constructive criticism. There is a story about a visit
to Chinon were he apparently went missing within the castle causing a little panic to his personal protection people.
He was discovered in an obscure room sitting on a stool working a piece of leather when found they tore a strip off him
complaining it was difficult to do the task asked of them when he f**** *** to do the work of a tanners wife.
He apologised and said he'll make them more aware in future.
Any source on this. Would love to learn more?
You make these history lessons so intriguing to watch. I can't turn away.
I was lambasted by people for saying that paying for TH-cam was wrong. I have to admit I was in the wrong. Yes it may be a Little expensive but I find that I am now watching TH-cam without adverts than watching basic sky. Yes sad I know but worth the money. There is so much content on here
These real royalty videos are great! 👍👍👍
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My my. What a piece of work Henry II. As almost make Henry VIII and THE other Tudors look like schoolboys.
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Dan Jones never totally speak bad about the Tudors, when it comes of Henry VII and his poor claim to the Throne, Jones prefer to divert to his mother, Margaret, how much she loved her son and how much she sacrifice to rise him to power, nothing about the Tudors descending from a bastard line of the Plantagenet, that some of the nobles families of his own era believed that he descended from a bastard son of a maid.
Actually a knights daughter
Entertaining video but I stopped about 1/3 of the way in. Too many ads. This is true of all videos in the Real Royalty series.
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Great content, but the combination of too frequent and too loud commercials make this series much less enjoyable.
Fast forward to the end and then replay. No advert. Or get premium
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These didn't make them... They've stolen them..
This doc series and more have been on for yrs.. check ouy my medieval platlist for this series and others.. All in chronological order..
I can't help but feel like Pillars is what actually inspired game of thrones
I take great offense to the tag line referring that Henry II murdered Thomas Beckett. He didn't. He took responsibility for it as it was four of his knights that did the deed, as a true ruler should, but all he did was voice his displeasure at his old friend.
"...his Plantagenet rage comes out..." What bad history. Henry's father Geoffrey of Anjou was a cold, calculating sort of fellow. The out-of-control temper came from his great-grandfather William the Conqueror on his mother's side. Yes, this raging was passed down from there to future Plantagenets, but it's out of context to credit it as a family characteristic until another generation had come to power. If your mother's grandfather had flaming red hair, and your father's name was Snerd, and you were born with red hair, would it be right to call your hair "That famous Snerd red hair"? Not until your descendants passed it along.
I feel that you're overthinking it a bit.
@@michaellaidler7143 Not as much as the scriptwriter is underthinking it.
I just love how the old age strokes the writings! They are a great writters
In the Robin hood films wicked prince John taxes takes the poor while good king Richard was of fighting the crusade how do people think Richard payed for his never ending wars and lust for glory
Thomas Beckett's dad was also the Sheriff of London. Grisham College had a seminar on Beckett's accomplishments.
Beckett was always a fanatic (Henry's mother, the Empress Matilda warned Henry against creating him Archbishop of Canterbury but he didn't listen) and a fanatic he died
Wow..great documentary!
Great stuff. have been to many of the sites in Normandie like Chinon so fascinating to see them come to life.
I guess it was John's betrayal which led to his despair and death. Might as well had Richard's head on a spike if John had stuck by him.
This is a real family feud 😂😂😂
Henry snd Eleanor,medieval power couple.
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Too many ads. I keep losing the thread of the documentary so have given up watching it. A shame, as it's really good.
The adverts wouldn't be SO bad, if the sound weren't SO excessive; 15 adverts per video is a bit ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as the price of YT Premium. Otherwise, I really love the content.
You Tube adverts are like those on the radio - if a company advertises on it, you don’t need it
great show
Why isn't Channel 5 or Dan Jones credited for this as they actually made the documentary.
I'm pretty sure this video was posted before. Why is it coming up as a new posting?
You are right. It is the first video on the playlist Britain's Bloodiest Dynasty. :)
To get in more advertising I'd say.
It's been on Timeline (another one of their channels) for years, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was on Absolute History too. So just a grab for more ad revenue by changing the title lol.
I love it.
old vid, but a good one. also, almost no mention of Geoffrey, the second son and part of the conspiracy(ies)
@Jennifer Blane You're thinking of Geoffrey the bastard son. He did join the church, I'm talking about Geoffrey, the fourth son who became Duke of Brittany
Geoffrey was actually 3rd son of 4: Young Henry, Richard, Geoffrey and John. Henry died young, Richard preferred war/Crusades, Geoffrey basically forgotten (except for his son, Arthur, killed by John) and lastly John who did become King (Magna Carta fame).
Why were only Richard and John considered for the throne if Geoffrey was older?
@@gracebob8334 Richard the eldest surviving son. John was Henry's favorite.
@@gracebob8334 Richard older than Geoffrey.
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Thankfully no ads but, can barely hear the narrator!!!
Good luck for you to find any more than this 🌹🌹💐💐🌹🌹💐💐
I would really like to find about the cast and crew of this documentary,E
esp. the Actors(I tried IMDB). ,their performance made Dan's storytelling much more captivating. Can somebody find out?
They forgot to add rosamund clifford on this documentary and his fave son gave way to magna carta and the villain in robin hood stories
They didn't forget, they deemed it completely irrelevant, which it is.
Second best doc on the Plantagenets.
Pls. volume.. I need louder sounds
Why does he keep touching historical documents with his finger??? Bloodyhell
Andrew plack I know right? I was cringing at that.
Documents are more likely to get damaged if you are wearing gloves. You can feel them more easily with bare hands and so are much gentler. This way is best practice.
@@JoHarris68 Fabric is more abrasive than fingertips. I think they have to wash their hands to remove excess oils and lipids before handling the old paper.
Common misconception that the oils in fingers are damaging to old material. In fact the material on gloves and fabric are a lot more abrasive and damaging to the material. So long as your hands are properly washed and dried before and after handling it's safer to use your bare hands when handling old artefacts.
Hey everyone, instead of whinging about ads, maybe get an adblocker. They're free and we don't have to waste time slogging through repeated comments about how the ads are distracting.
I don't think that the dynasty was known as the Plantagenets till Richard of York used the name toward the end of the dynasty. They were better known as the Angevins (i.e. from Anjou).
14 mins in and I’ve gotten 4 ads. 🤨
Ten. I saw ten ads. Sweet
Douglas P Keating Jr Did you subscribe to The Epoch Times?
Hahahahahahaha I did!
I may not like Henry as a person.
But his atonement in Canterbury (walking barefoot through the muddy and dangerous crowded streets from the city gates to the shrine of his former BFF and then being whipped by 100 monks 5 times each with a birch rod after he commanded them to) is pretty darn badass.
Might he have done it for PR reasons? Probably. But the fact that he put himself through so much pain and humiliation with no guarantee it would work makes me wonder if he was being genuine in his remorse and wanted to prove to Beckett and God that he truly didn't mean for it to happen.
This BS clickbait just popped up in my feed, so I just had to jump in and set the record straight; Henry II did NOT 'murder' the Archbishop Thomas Becket. There, done.
Henry II is my 20th GGF. Interesting world we live in.
So your channel just uses the videos of other channels and gives it a new title...
looks like it. I have already watched all these stories from other channel and was excited with this channel that they had new stories or point of views to out forward but no, am so disappointed!
If you don't like it better get off youtube ... EVERYBODY does it ... I don't like it, I don't even like that there is almost NEVER the date of first broadcast ... but if it bothers you there'll never be a change so ... adjust!
Henrry 2 was Duc of Normandy b4 becoming King of England.this would mean he was of viking dna
Yes they were quite savage at this time.i am not religious but it was a good thing that the church was there to curb some of those exesses.Plantagenet.the name of Plantagenet is taken from this wild yellow busch that grows in Brittany and everywhere in France really.very strong very tenacious." Plante a genets" a bit like dandelion 😃
.Henry the 8th tried his very best to destroy them all.another monster.there is some left i hear.
I seem to recall there is a Plantagenet living in Australia claiming Queen Elizabeth the second is not legitimate. The reality is all the Kings and Queens were there through force of arms while claiming some kind of special arrangement with God.
I wonder if Henry's civil service ever received an application for a fish license.
At home with the Plantagenet’s
Love it !
Eleanor to me the most interesting woman in history.
@@3John-Bishop without a doubt.
@@3John-Bishop Really? I seem to remember someone from Egypt...Cleo something...
I have to watch this for history
Same I have to watch this
I absolutely loved this story. I've always been a huge fan of the Tudors so I thought I'd learn more of English history. Americans aren't taught any English history. If you can't interest them in there own history there's no way you can interest them in a thousand years of complicated but fascinating history.
Lady Siam -- How do you know that Americans are not taught English history? I know that I was, as well as my country's history.
You're showing your ignorance by placing all of us in the same basket. There are many, many, many American students that love history.
How much do you know about America's history, huh??
@@toniremer1594 Exactly. If you're not taught what you want to learn, go learn it yourself. It's not a priority of American schools to teach the history of another country and vice versa lol I can't stand when people say stuff like that. School can't teach you everything. It's up to you to never stop learning!
well done, he always adds political and legal details
They didn't speak Modern french or even old french though, they spoke Norman French and later Anglo-Norman French. Norman French sounds quite different to Modern French and sounds like French with some Norse mixed in. The peasants also didn't speak Modern English, they spoke a later form of Anglo-Saxon or maybe early English. Anglo-Norman French and Anglo Saxon eventually became one language each influencing each other. This is why some argue that English is a Romantic language and not a Germanic language. The truth lies in between.
Is it just me or is one of the music cues of this video similar to the Game of Thrones Theme?
English history is violent, but it’s interesting. Thank you for posting .
I'm pretty certain Henry II had five sons. I must have missed any reference you made to Geoffrey II, Duke of Brittany.
Geoffrey's son, Arthur, should have been king, but Ole Uncle John "disappeared" him. What is it with dysfunctional uncles back then (thinking Richard III)!!
@@judymac2590 isn’t it weird every time there’s an heir named Arthur they die before they become king?
@@heathenpride7931 never even thought of that!!
The King did not do the dirty deed himself he got some of his cronies to do it.
The King later said that the four knights slaying Thomas Becket had just misunderstood him. Of course, the King had nothing to do with the deed.
Way too many loud ads
Normandy kings More Vikings than French. Angel saxons we’re basically early Vikings. England is really a Viking country with a few kelts left in Wales. That explains the violent history.
Lesson to be imparted: The government can do ANYTHING.
At least Henry's knights had the right energy XD
My daddy issues seem petty now
lol :D
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Calling Henry's oldest son "The young king" is not accurate....heir apparent is more correct.
Actually I believe that's what he was called in his lifetime, and he was crowned as co-king with his father.
which king that give one of their brother of becoming the pope ??? i heard that king starting not like his brother actions as a pope...
too bad these documentaries aren't in chronological order
This is the same exact video as the Timeline one. Many of the videos on this channel are. Is one of these channels a parent channel??
Can’t help feeling sorry for Henry.
Death by advert, ridiculous amounts of ads, switched off,
Nice guy, Henry Plantagenet. Vivat Rex.
Are they using old English? It doesn’t sound French it sounds more German, which old English like
They spoke a version of old French that sounded like a blend of German and French. Nothing like modern French but I'm guessing the show's budget didn't include language coaching in archaic languages for the actors. Old English was still spoken by the peasants until the mid 12th century when it was gradually replaced with middle english (Chaucer)
Henry: WHAT DO YOU MEAN MY KNIGHTS STORMED CANTERBERRY? FUCK OH FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!! I NEVER ORDERED THAT, okay okay so what about Beckett? ARE YOU SHITTING ME? WELL WHERE ARE YOU? Wait a second you're hiding in a janitor's closest calling me in secret? Wow that's wimpy even for you. Oh oh I'm sorry I thought my Captain of the Guard could keep four drunk knights at bay. DO DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO TO MY APPROVAL RAITINGS???
"Les Rois maudits" by Maurice Druon inspired GOT
Henry II thought his wife's was his, but it's not. There wouldn't be the family tension if he gave lands to his sons.
Do u have to use all these obnoxious advertising adds!! Please review ur profile.
Too many obnoxious ads. I'll go find something else to watch.
I am with you on this! i am out of here!
Skip to the end then hit replay, no ads!
What's the host's name?
Dan Jones. He’s an amazing author.
GUILTY! I don't believe that innocent act for a second ... those knight killed the priest behind my back ... yeeeeah ... riiiiight .... didn't know a thing about it ... sure ... HA!
Following the present Archbishop's comment on the Brexit bill this week I guess that Boris Johnson wouldn't mind doing a Henry II on Justin Welby.....
You need to take anything that Dan Jones says with a grain of salt, he may be accurate in anything before Henry VII come along, but his commentary gets very muddle when it comes to Edward IV, Richard III and Henry VII, because he is following the footsteps of David Starkey in that aspect, never question the past when that past question the legitimacy of the present, historians should investigate the past and investigate all the hypothesis not be a mouthpiece for the state.
Do tell.....
You also know we will be here forever if they had to really tell the whole truth. It's only a one hour show,so small nuggets so as not to replace actual education in schools . This is entertainment.
Well, they were basically French... which explains much :V
They didn't speak Modern french as depicted here or even old french though, they spoke Norman French and later Anglo-Norman French. Norman French sounds quite different to Modern French and sounds like French with some Norse mixed in. The peasants also didn't speak Modern English, they spoke a later form of Anglo-Saxon or maybe early English. Anglo-Norman French and Anglo Saxon eventually became one language each influencing each other. This is why some argue that English is a Romantic language and not a Germanic language. The truth lies in between.
So ironic with the racism involved in the Immigration Matter in the UK
They were Normans. The word is a contraction of north and man with the t and the h dropped. Those men from up north, Rollo, a viking from up north was granted land that they called Normandy. Plantagenet is based on a type of decorative ornament that the Angevins liked to wear.
@@KingofCabal the structure is Germanic, while most of the words are from the Romance (latin) tree of languages, of which French is a part.
@gipcambero yes I do. It's currently a part of France. It wasn't always.
Super loud commercials
And I thought the Russian Czars were vicious.
They were. Duh!
Indy Dude - All monarchs are vicious.
@@dorianphilotheates3769 even Henry VI?
LOLTube - Less so than most others, but he was working on it.
@@dorianphilotheates3769 I mean he tried leading his "supporters" in the second battle of Saint Albans and ended up sitting under a tree during the whole battle
Far too many advertising instances and the sound is too soft so that these advertisements come across like ezploding bombs. i unsubscribed. I don't like such foul tricks.