Tanking to Keystone Hero but it goes HORRIBLY Wrong...

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  • @judehughes9123
    @judehughes9123 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Hey man, 2.7 Blood DK here. I've noticed that you're not using abom limb on big pulls that require constant active mitigation. It's utility lies within it constantly prevent spell casting through pulling them in, alongside buffering melee attacks for smoother incoming damage profiles, its makes a huge difference in defensive utility with large pulls. Best of luck in your journey :) loving the series.

    • @VesperalTV
      @VesperalTV  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Appreciate that my friend!

    • @adbirdk
      @adbirdk 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Doesn't it also give bone charges or was that only in df?

    • @SoapIsCritical
      @SoapIsCritical 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@adbirdk bone charges got removed in war within, its just CC/Damage now

    • @tfganhao
      @tfganhao 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Loved the video but was thinking the SAME thing. Abom Limb always up to help group :D. Also, walking into a pack without death's caress'ing first (gives you bone shield charges). Love the journey, BDK is NOT for the faint of heart for sure.

  • @bradd1051
    @bradd1051 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yes Vesp. Love these vids. Your streams go live when my WFH day is dying down so it provides that perfect gap to when I can then play after work, and the vids are a bonus! Keep it up mate

  • @CrankMuffler
    @CrankMuffler วันที่ผ่านมา

    Such an accurate depiction of starting to play BDK. One tip: Death's Caress is your friend on pull. It has travel time, gives you RP and 2 bone shield charges 😇

  • @GreenChaos104
    @GreenChaos104 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    AMS is your best friend :D the way you live the start of the double guardian pulls is pre-AMSing before they hit you with anima slash, to avoid the dot - the slash itself isn't much damage, it mostly comes from the dot they apply. by the time the second set comes out, you have boneshield, RP, some other mobs are probably dead, it's not that big of a problem. same with soulcleavers at the start, or flamerenders in grimbatol, poison on arak last boss, void corruption on SV last boss, etc etc etc. whenever you get a magic debuff, the next time you come against it, try popping AMS first, you can skip a lot of what makes tanking dangerous. (ofc your ilvl is so low compared to the dungeons you're running, so it's already impressive you're living at all :D )

  • @tomtimko9185
    @tomtimko9185 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    "Don't listen to your tanks, it does not hurt" *furiously mashing death strike*

  • @confettisword4615
    @confettisword4615 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Good shit! One of the funniest ones yet man - good to see you back at it

  • @makovecek00
    @makovecek00 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    press your CD like limb, bonestorm... the more times you press it per run the better efficiency with the cd

    • @itzmrbeau6386
      @itzmrbeau6386 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Was gonna say looks like he never has abom limb on CD that ara Kara pull on the 5 wouldn’t of been nearly as bad if when he planted he popped abom and kicked the mini boss instead of what he did kick. But I’ve also been playing Blood DK for abit so got a better understanding of this stuff I suppose

    • @makovecek00
      @makovecek00 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@itzmrbeau6386 the thing i follow is if the dungeon is just send all the cds when you can since sitting on them is super inefficient,

  • @aspenture1087
    @aspenture1087 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I love this so much. I like how he says tanks are lying stuff doesn't hurt then he's just floor pov on a +7 mists. I had fun in 7 mists on my prot warrior when I was gearing it I got the double room and pulled all of it. triple guardian was interesting xD I'm normally a healer.
    I'm loving this series and only found you on youtube a couple days ago listing a +10 as a +2.
    Edit: I'm a disc priest main, would love to see you do this as a disc priest xD

    • @minecraftman509
      @minecraftman509 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      jesus its mostly because he is so undergeared that he should be running heroics not fucking +7 xdddd

  • @joelreading7062
    @joelreading7062 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dude as a Blood DK main, I have laughed so much at this series. Great pugging stuff!

  • @hymnalplays9112
    @hymnalplays9112 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dancing Rune Weapon into Death's Caress on pull gives you 11 bone shield charges which you can then use for Bonestorm or Tombstone to instantly get Runic Power, setting you up pretty safely on the start of a pack, cheers mate love the series

  • @hicarn
    @hicarn 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I main a Prot Warrior but also have an alt Blood DK. They are so different... Tanking with the DK is so stressful as the HP bar jumps so much lol... My warrior incoming dmg is so much smoother and slower than the DK it's insane but the tool kit for DK is so fun especially grip.. Such an amazing skill!
    Love this series!

  • @TheRabbit68
    @TheRabbit68 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    That's normal for tanks and cooldowns. Honestly it's similar to playing DPS where you basically just send them on CD as long as they won't all overlap at once.

  • @nickfarace9339
    @nickfarace9339 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    "so what went wrong there"
    Might be doing one of the roughest pug pulls in the game on a 5 at 580 ilvl but y'know 🙃

    • @Generalizedfeelings
      @Generalizedfeelings 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      And on fort too, mans was dead the moment he zoned in lol

    • @gustavkropic
      @gustavkropic 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      when ou have 600itl it is time for m8 spam... onl 80% eed 615 for time m8. people so unbalance not clasess

    • @BonesfeatRodie
      @BonesfeatRodie 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      also he went to 17 stacks :D

    • @TeHzoAr
      @TeHzoAr 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gustavkropic did you just say itl. ilvl is right there for one more character

  • @vermil4894
    @vermil4894 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Siege have a lot of this nasty little mobs that seems harmless compared to big guys, but they do some unholy level of damage to tanks. On first pull there are 2-4 (i dont remember exact amount) litlle mobs that do almost insta tankbuster that reduces haste and it trucks, there are several of them and they are not desynced, so its better to pop vamp blood+icebound(or rune tap) second before pull. Also mobs that teleports to random ranged and do aoe also cast very nasty bleed on tank so a couple of this bleeds could kill you very fast.

  • @GartenFallneX
    @GartenFallneX 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im just happy you listen to the same lo-fi playlist as I am

  • @Lahuiz
    @Lahuiz 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    yo, did played BDK since S2 DF & tanked earlier this season, here's what i can say from experience, i'm not r1 world, but i did some good performance & survive pretty well up to +13 keys (haven't tried higher yet) so if it can help : (coffee time, it's long)
    runes = gain over time (affected by haste only)
    runic power (RP) = gained by heart strike / vampiric strike (vamp on san layn hero talent) only, you can't generate from anything else (night elf racial but... yk)
    bones = gained by pressing marrowend(3) / death caress(2) / dancing rune weapon (5)
    on open you need bump up you're bones on range by pressing dancing rune weapon(DRW) into death caress(DC) (DC x3 cause of DRW) so you get instantly 11bones before getting hit by the first melees
    you play bonestorm so you can press it for aggro generation, another cool combo for aggro is DRW + blood boil + consumption, wich will do some great off-heal & DR while you finishing setup.
    even if you pull under 11 bones by doing the DRW+DC combo you need to press extra defensive for opener also, except some hard pulls on higher keys u'll prefer to press "small" defensives to open a pull, rune tap, lichborne, ams if magic...
    also; at the end of a pull, when all mobs are nearly dead, refresh you're bone shield & blood shield if you can, DC refreshes the 30s cooldown before boneshield expire, spend some RP on death strike even if it's not needed so you have extra HP for next pull opener.
    when you have great setup in a pull, you can just do classic dps rotation & press defensives on pretty like all tank busters, pretty rare to press defensives on something else than openers & tank busters, can happen sometimes if too many casts are incoming but pressing heart strike, death strike & blood boil do the job most of the time, so you can focus more on cut/ccs.
    in the video you said "grips don't really cut mobs so it's kinda pointless", true & false at the same time, it doesn't cut, but it restart the cast, if you're group don't have cut, you give extra delay to let their (or you're) come back.
    DRW if basically duplicating you're weapon 2 extra times, you're blood boil DoT is also applied 3times on every mobs, & their effects also stacks, more DR, more off-healing, more damages, you'll need it on every opener, you reduce the cooldown with heart strike so even if it says 2mins cooldown, it's more about 1min in reality, sometimes less, NEVER press it at the end of a boss / pull, it's preferable to press another defensive or use ur purgatory (cheat death) on end of a pull, without DRW some openers can just oneshot you & you won't recover from purgatory fast enough (mainly bcuz of panic).
    seen a guy named DefinetlyNotVlad attempting on BDK KSH during dragonflight & he just gave up bcuz of the stress it caused to him, in fact, that class is fun cuz it's like dancing on a razorblade, you can die at any moment from something no one suspected to be dangerous, but if you can go without stressing & panicking, it feels really nice to play, don't give up buddy, atm you need more gear, you play good, watching you're spells there's not that much errors, you just overdefend to some incoming damages & run out of defense for the next one. that's how it felt like by watching you
    around"

    • @OnceAToaster
      @OnceAToaster 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Amazing comment, thanks for posting

  • @sauracifer3557
    @sauracifer3557 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    that kick reminded me of how i got kicked recently (i had a short dc and when i came back i got kicked and got leaver buster for 30 minutes...)

  • @TheAxhol
    @TheAxhol 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would recommend trying out cell unit frames, you can display all debuffs and dispels on you party frames or health bar :)

  • @moneymike2384
    @moneymike2384 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    in Mists on last boss, you can pre AMS the mind link, the tethers stay but the the debuff is gone

  • @ghostfacedninja1000
    @ghostfacedninja1000 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My newest pet peeve is people mong facing into keys in levelling greens and expecting to get carried when there is so much free and easy loot out there

  • @felipehwow
    @felipehwow 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Once I went to do this with my demon hunter, the first pack was good, but in the second, no one kicked and we took 3 fears, everyone died and a paladin said "I thought you knew how to tank"

  • @Zishakeq
    @Zishakeq 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Blood DK tanking feels like pure anxiety XD

  • @gokibros4451
    @gokibros4451 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm a 2.7k MW Monk on track to 2.8k. If your mist weaver has chichis up you will not die and can do the crazies stuff you can imagine assuming your team can chain cc or kick stuff like the fear. When chichi is out i do like almost 2m hps and until it drops off (lasts 12 sec) the party is effectively immortal. You will never know with pugs where your mw is at and if they're running Dance (I do and it's my opinion it's actually over powered contrary to most monks who use empowered jadefire.) But a good MW should never let you die on big pulls unless you started it already everyone low hp, or mw is somehow oom (it happens sometimes,) or they have no cds. But mw need to cleave for their fatter heals so a mw with a single target is going to do more off-casting to heal 1-2 of the dps but in a big pack like 3 or more enemies they can just pump damage and heals. At higher keys healer damage is very important to timing them. This should incentivize you to do bigger pulls rather than a lot of smaller pulls with a fistweaver monk. The more things there are to hit the more healing they can do repeatedly and they're mobile and have like a 15 sec cd kick and 3 cc's. A lot of monks don't know this but you can kick with paralysis with no intention of long cc'ing the ads. I even do this in raid to stop ads from casting soemthing and i do it in places like gb where canceling the cast makes the mob restart a long cast or they won't repeat it at all after, making it effectively a second interrupt.
    This is all to say I don't think you should be scared to engage a large pull as long as your mw is in melee range and dps is kicking

    • @gokibros4451
      @gokibros4451 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      on the 2nd boss of seige those bombs don't strike for a long time, I side step a tiny amount then wait for the second ring to go out then get out and make sort of a small square. People running around and spreading them everywhere is more chaotic

    • @Jimmbo91
      @Jimmbo91 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      2.6k MW monk here. took a few things from this and I also agree that Dance of Chi Ji is OP as well, i ran it in an 8 to test it out. Loved it!

  • @TeHzoAr
    @TeHzoAr 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    rogue: "big pull please" [does 700k dps on 6 mobs]

  • @sebukoafk6515
    @sebukoafk6515 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    as a tank main i will tell you we are tanking emotional damage as well ... if the group fails its always our fault and we are always to blame :D So just tank it with grace and move on to a another group :D

    • @Ecliptor.
      @Ecliptor. 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Of all the leavers I've had, it literally has been always the tank. Not once I had a dps or a healer leave. And not once have I seen people flaming the tank. Only once I've seen a premade of healer + dps being a bit spammy in chat telling the tank what to do, but it wasn't a flame war.
      You don't see it because you don't play with tanks, since you are the tank. But they're by far the most cringe and toxic out of all the pugs I've had.

  • @florinmocanu2005
    @florinmocanu2005 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    I have to say, dude. Buy some 564 gear for all slots where you don't have that at least. You are just tormenting the peeps running these dungeons with you. A bit of gold spent in the AH goes a long way to give you a bit more survivability.

    • @TheGr00salug
      @TheGr00salug 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yea that ilvl seems really low for the keys.

    • @nickfarace9339
      @nickfarace9339 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Especially on a Forti week and often doing very big pulls.
      Like man you have these dps doing over 1 mil overall in a 5 and 6, do small pulls. Learn the big ones once you have the spec down AND some gear.

    • @cara4lyfe415
      @cara4lyfe415 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Or delv gear...

  • @elbowdeep
    @elbowdeep 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    /as a healer blood dk tanks stress me out the most, their hp is up and down like crazy!

    • @Gille008
      @Gille008 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Most chill Tank to Heal. Even if you want you cant heal them. These Boys are on there own easy ^^

    • @adnanbugacki8726
      @adnanbugacki8726 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Gille008 definitely not true

    • @z1doug
      @z1doug 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@adnanbugacki8726 you quite literally don't need to heal a BDK, if they aren't completely useless

    • @Gille008
      @Gille008 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@adnanbugacki8726 I mean i can be wrong maybe only the dks in my 14's now how to play.^^

    • @t.g7545
      @t.g7545 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Blood dks are super easy to read if they drop to sub 10% every global then you have to spam heal em as they don't rotate cds properly, but there are really few healers than can keep bdk that aint playing properly alive like rdruid otherwise they are on their own with you passive healing. Being resto shaman is huge giving em 10% extra hp and passive dr.

  • @Mortalitor52
    @Mortalitor52 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a healer main I always inspect the tank...and yeah I wont heal a 587 ilevel tank in a 5. great content thanks

  • @ross5838
    @ross5838 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    mind link is always on tank btw

  • @MooYah_
    @MooYah_ 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I main tank Warrior and Paladin and I am afraid to learn Blood DK.. I am literally going to live your current struggle LOL

  • @gamerunknown9472
    @gamerunknown9472 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the reason you're using all your cooldowns on pull is beause you are cold starting your defensive rotation. You have no Bone shield, runic power, or other buffs rolling.

  • @bdkMarmite80
    @bdkMarmite80 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    love watching these and hearing you say i'm dead you sound so much like me

  • @HOBOTw1tcH
    @HOBOTw1tcH 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "im so dead" "im dead im dead im dead"

  • @shaneb1203
    @shaneb1203 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love watching you play bdk the commentary is greaty 😂❤

  • @adamabuain8523
    @adamabuain8523 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    you need to be using consumption off cd most of time. ramps ur blood plague damage, heals and insta gives back runes to spend for more rp. if ur cd for drw is above 30 seconds use bonestorm or tombstone to reduce cd.

    • @adamabuain8523
      @adamabuain8523 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      should honestly being using tombstone and bonestorm off cd if 6 or more bone shield charges to get drw back up.

  • @josephcook6674
    @josephcook6674 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love these vids! Keep up the content❤

  • @jonipp1
    @jonipp1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really entertaining video! GG

  • @TheXanien
    @TheXanien 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bone shield sitting at 1-2 stacks for 80% of the time... You're poor healers 😢

  • @lunar2328
    @lunar2328 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im so glad I've been able to get 615 pve ilvl without needing to do a single dungeon. Or any pve really at all for that matter lol

  • @LoveLifeDaily
    @LoveLifeDaily 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Actually crazy that you can just pick up any spec and play it perfectly from the get go, seriously one of the goats of all time bro! Absolutely loving this series, was gonna say would love to see it on a spec you can't play next but I don't think it exists xD! Wollop!

    • @ZoddNosferatu1
      @ZoddNosferatu1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      he wasnt playing that well though

    • @SilvericAnito
      @SilvericAnito 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He is definitely not playing BDK well but it is an entertaining video at least.

    • @summerlovemvp
      @summerlovemvp 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      90% of the video is him not pressing buttons. Saving defensives for next expansion.

  • @jamread1849
    @jamread1849 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Heck doing +5s at 580 ilvl...there is no way 99.5% of player base could do two pulls. Including me

  • @dahcniell
    @dahcniell 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Anyone know the name of the addon that shows the M+ score change at the end of the dungeon?

  • @Redivna
    @Redivna 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hahaha 25:04 is me every single time 😂😂😂

  • @Elegolass
    @Elegolass 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Let's pull the entire hallway, but let's skip using ams 😮

  • @thaynanmedeiros2842
    @thaynanmedeiros2842 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I want to know whats this transmog :(

  • @wiskeeamazingdancer4964
    @wiskeeamazingdancer4964 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ara kara pull to mini boss in a 5? At least tell the party beforehand. Or if not if they blow cds before the bridge... change your plan.

  • @COREcasual
    @COREcasual 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wait.... grip didn't interrupt casting anymore?

    • @GreenChaos104
      @GreenChaos104 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it does, but it doesn't put the mob ability on cooldown. so it stops the cast but the mob can just start casting it again immediately - good for delaying a cast if nobody has interrupts, but could waste a kick if you pull right before someone tries to kick it

  • @reecemanser8085
    @reecemanser8085 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How are you getting into a +7 with ilvl 587???

  • @JuanDiegoFlorianMorales
    @JuanDiegoFlorianMorales 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    how is that you're not getting pulled by the final boss on ara-kara? i need to show this to my DK friend

    • @jackbagdadi6117
      @jackbagdadi6117 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You just pop death’s advance when the pull begins. If you don’t use it for anything else (shouldn’t need to) it’s literally up for every single singularity. 😅

    • @jackbagdadi6117
      @jackbagdadi6117 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Makes you immune to anything that displaces you. He should be using for not only that boss, but the church mini boss in Dawnbreaker, knocks at the 2nd boss in Dawnbreaker, and anything similar to that.

  • @itsnotyourfaultboy
    @itsnotyourfaultboy 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Boneshield is your def that needs to be up all time. If you don't press abom limb you are missing out on stacks. Great to see that a mage main can finally get to see why tanks struggle while he is just waiting for big pulls because of CDs

  • @taylorwhite2751
    @taylorwhite2751 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lol with pugs try not pulling it with your lack of tanking experience. No need for the mega pulls till you know exactly what your doing. It really doesnt save that mich time.

  • @antonego9581
    @antonego9581 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great content

  • @hamlist155
    @hamlist155 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why do you not use abomination limb?

  • @patricsweden2971
    @patricsweden2971 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wooo new video 😊❤

  • @Redivna
    @Redivna 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Noti gang checking in! 🫡

  • @Deanshaw97
    @Deanshaw97 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    literally pulling big in plus fives wonders why all his dps is dead. play to the key level mate you just make it stressful for these players that clearly cant keep up.

    • @deseanroot75
      @deseanroot75 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol, dude is a pug group nightmare

    • @nickfarace9339
      @nickfarace9339 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Or at least pick a class with the tools to handle it themselves like a DH or Prot paladin. DK has little by comparison to really help a group survive that.

  • @juts89
    @juts89 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fix your details font □□□□□□□□□□□□

  • @relentless5150
    @relentless5150 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    bald xdd

  • @bananagoose1224
    @bananagoose1224 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    you're not using ibf or lichborne enough, use one of those going into each pull, if you dont have those, use bonestorm, tombstone and consumption. you gotta rotate your personals these days.