A complaint was filed with B & C regarding this hunt and the state officers involved. Read the final report it has serious holes in it. At one point the report actually confirms "camping" of the bull by the outfitter. This Bull was farm raised by UT. his bull was NEVER seen in the area before, and this area is HEAVILY hunted every year. No Sheds anywhere, ever. No sightings until three weeks before the hunt, unless you count the statement by Mossback's guide. B&C need to answer the Complaint.
@@jn8055 someone should GRAMA DNR hunting licenses for DNR management staff and their kids, you will find several who seemed to always draw a tag, the facts of this Bull's case are contained in the notes, files and records with UT DNR law enforcement officers who responded and assisted in this hunt. B & C knows yet continues to recognize it because of the "contributions" of this hunter to the "sport"
@@slowhands8869it's funny u say that. I know 1 family who has drawn 4 utah sportsman tags!! Ironically one of which hunted elk on Monroe right around the time of the spider bull! So yes, something fishy going on for sure!!!
Hunter Denny Austad is the world record holder for the biggest non-typical elk. His trophy bull was nicknamed “Spider-bull” for its web-like antlers. Austad hunted the bull in Utah, and paid $150,000 for tag to do it. The bull scored 478 5/8 on the Boone and Crockett scale.Mar 26, 2014. I figured this was a paid fenced in hunt. 150, 000 bucks for a Bull is wild!
Hes paid alot more for governors tags since then. And he for sure killed it on Monroe. The question is was he an escaped farm bull, or "planted" farm bull. However I'm sure the state investigated it and it would be easy to tell if he had been a farm bull
This bull along with the 475" Monster taken in the 2012 season are both farm raised bulls out of NEBRASKA!! I personally know the worlds foremost official on world record elk and mule deer. He is also the legend on shed pick ups dead head finds. The area where this bull was taken is very hard to get drawn for but is covered each year by hunters & shed hunters. His shed has NEVER BEEN FOUND BEFORE! Mark my words "In the next year or so Selnar & his crew will prove this bull to be farm raised"!
Didn’t you hear him say at the end that the man who killed it donated $170K to Utah wildlife conservation? That’s how he obtained a tag 🏷 for that area that he otherwise wouldn’t have drawn or wasn’t gonna draw! I see your comment was 9 years ago have you heard any more news/evidence ect about this particular record ? All I can say is it was a millionaire buying himself a world record Elk with lots of money 💰. Which is 💩 in my world record book!
Fun fact this guys spent 150k plus from his governor tag and for guides to run people off and watch that bull 24/7 and he flew in and hiked a quarter of a mile shot him and flew back to California.
Guides who take out people with the governers tags sometimes hang out in the woods for months before the hunts. They build up a portfolio of quality animals and bring these videos and pictures to the client and the client gets to choose which animal they want to try to hunt. Guides do slot of pre scouting
That farm bull probably walked up to the trunk thinking he was getting a flake of hay. He must have been so confused when mossbutt pulled a rifle 5 feet away.
Half you people probably don't even hunt so, why in the hell are you even watching this video and complaining about "Ohhh as soon as it's shot it starts to bloat and the meat starts to spoil" I've taken my 6 bucks all in the temps around 75 degrees and it takes a good ,half an hour to an hour to gut it out the temp was probably a lot cooler there and therefore they had time to let their excitement out. Hunters have the most respect for animals out of most people in the world( my opinion) so instead of criticizing hunters and complaining maybe don't watch the video so you don't get your feelings hurt.
That bull was brought in from some ranch. Never been seen until that year, no sheds found, no bulls with even close to the same genes anywhere??? Sounds a little strange to me. Very similar characteristics to ranch bulls I see all the time. Awesome for the guy to be able to shoot a bull like that, but he shouldn't have been led to believe it was a wild bull.
I’ve met the guy several times at different hunting festivities around Utah. He is no different than Mosscock and his boys. He just wanted his name in the book, nothing more and with even less respect for the animal which is the worst part.
What are you on about, that bull has been spotted months before they killed him and some bow hunter missed a shot on him. What kinda of idiot would release a world record bull months before, giving other hunters a chance to kill him
This man is wealthy he most likely found out about a world 🌍 record Elk being there. So he wanted the world record he wasn’t gonna get a outta state draw Tag 🏷. So he paid Utah $170K for a wildlife conservation donation to Buy his way in on this Bull ! Otherwise he wouldn’t have gotten a tag 🏷! There’s no telling who else was paid off to keep other hunters out of that area. My opinion anymore and gets a world record in that fashion should not be awarded the record books 📖! That’s as dirty as it comes to just buy urself a world record that’s not real hunting.....that’s a millionaire paying for what he wants! And the ones in Utah who let him do that for $$$$ all needs to be fired from their jobs, if they’re even still in those wildlife positions of government! That’s no different than politicians taking payoffs from special interest groups and in turn giving favors to the ones who paid them.
I live on the monroe on the Piute side and I can tell you he's not that HUGE compared to the other elk on that mountain. I wouldn't doubt that there is a bigger bull on that mountain. Monroe is pretty untouched by man compared to the other mountains in the area, leaving a lot of room for these trophies to hide. Its also a lot more difficult to get a monroe tag as well, so that helps. I really don't believe any of the theories that claimed he was a farm bull. We heard stories about him for a good 2 or 3 years before he was finally shot.
Scott Montgomery ... because like he said. Good luck getting the tag. These aren’t public hunting units and for good reason. If they were, bulls would be scarce, let alone bulls of this caliber. Within the next several years I will have the points to draw this tag and I am looking forward to it so I don’t have to deal with the armies of the “shoot anything that has horns” mentality. Do I think some guides are unethical... absolutely. But I do not know these guys personally and will respect any other hunters unless I have proof otherwise. If they are hunting unethically their day will come. Guaranteed. Karma is a bitch, especially when hunting these amazing animals.
Where are the sheds and photos of the bull from years past? With the way you and your crew keeps tabs on all these animals it's hard to believe that you had never seen him before. The Bull was killed in 2008 correct? Where are his children at?
Those of you living on Moss' every word plz understand that monster Bull elk & mule deer buck do not just "show up", like he would like you to believe. They don't get big overnight. They have to grow that big. No hunter or anyone else for that matter had ever seen or heard of this bull before 2008! Come on Doyle Moss! You know your world record ride is going to end & when it does your name will permanently be ruined! Just tell the truth before you bring the B&C Scoring Commission down with you!
AZbowhntrs2009 I live in utah ive seen a bull that was no question in my mind bigger then the spider bull. It was a rainy day opener of the elk hunt saw some elk on an cliff we drove to the opening of this canyon the gate said please close gate thank you blm land, the gate had to be enough to keep People out thinking it was private, guy ran cattle out of their, we drove so far before our truck started slipping, we tied up to anything we could find we waited for it to freeze over so we could stop slipping we watched a heard of cow elk under what we thought was a tree finally after of hours of watching these elk on the face the tree gets up we realize its a bull elk thing is just standing and its horns go past its ass i counted 7 and 8 horns on each side and i know there was horns i was missing the horns were so thick it looked pre historic. Then we got up close and the bottom of the mountain sticks out and its nothing but trees you go to left or right your shots blocked and when we did get on top you saw it had forever and ever with untouched canyons to travel the only way to really get in there on the back side is with helicopter!! So are there elk out there yes!! Is the spider bull one of them no!! But southern utah does have big bulls and its a shame utah sold out to money
Amen to that ! That Bull was bought with $170K donation to Utah wildlife conservation. Crooked crap is what that is & I couldn’t live with that on my conscience that I obtained a world record Elk that way.
One internet hero actually posted that "Any game taken with the aid of a guide should be disqualified from the record books." There will be a whole lot less Dall Sheep, Brown Bear and Mountain Goats in the record books then. All of those species are mandatory guided hunts in Alaska unless you have someone of second degree kindred or greater that is an Alaska resident. Those hunters may have been guided, but they still had to drag themselves up the mountain, endure whatever nature dishes out and make the shot.
was this a limited draw hunt district? was it public land accessible to general public and not accessible only through a private land owner. That and only that makes it a truly Public Hunt I would love to know that
Ok so I'm gonna make a few points here. I've bee hunting since I could walk. And in my years of hunting I've always taken the oldest "trophy" bucks or bulls. I would rather let the younger ones grow and mature and spread there genetics to future generations. And if I don't find the "trophy" I don't shoot. at the end of the day I'm not starving and don't need to kill an animal. It's honestly more the thrill of the hunt for me. And if I do kill it, I kill it more humanly then most slaughterhouses quick and clean. Also we eat the meat... Plus and awesome rack for the wall. Win win. I will admit this video is done in a way that makes it seem like that elk was almost captive and was farmed. I see it all the time especially when I hunt in Montana. People (shitty rich people) pay big money for big animals. The guides know exactly where these animals hang out.
Chris Welch There are plenty of studies to contradict you. Antler size in Mule Deer peak around 5-7 years of age. Elk at 8-10. It even says he was 8 years old and had 2 or so more years of mass gain in the video. Check this link: aces.nmsu.edu/pubs/_l/l-111/welcome.html Thats a study by New Mexico State. . . so your 35 years have been in vain. You will NEVER see a yearling walking around with 5x6 antlers scoring in the 200s (mule deer).
Nicholas G I agree that all young bucks should be able to grow and mature but I help feed a family of 8 and if I get the chance at a buck you bet I'm shooting but at the same time trying to make it the most humane kill
Jealous people just can't help but comment and try to take away from the magnificence of these beautiful animals. This guide service works hard to find these monsters. Record Book Bull.These guys are professional hunters. 800 yards
If you think "hunting" an animal at half a mile, having a team of "guides" follow it for weeks, while pulling the tag by spending hundreds of thousands of dollars is something to be admired you are part of the problem.
Kindly but jealous? I seen this rack on display in thatcher az. I didn’t know there was so much foul play . I know elk but my first impression of it was… ‘’ I have a lot of questions cause it smells’’ . All these guides? 150000$ ? Cameras watching his every move for weeks. , I’ll say this, like Barry bonds and his cheating the home run record with performance drugs, this bull should have a (*) next to its record and note that basically says this was certainly a questionable hunt. Get a confirmed spotting, ( by a woman? Not even a guide?) and pay your money, get in your jet , fly out , pussy foot around cause that old man can’t hike, and shoot it when convenient ? Private land , 175000$ what seems like a bribe to the state to fix things? . And no footage available even of the actual kill. Yeah…sure… and the man wasn’t even excited , and the antlers taken out of state for display in az? ( unless the mount was a copy which it wasn’t) … sniff sniff..you smell something? but in related news, My son lost a chance on a 420 this week waiting for archery to start He watched it for a few days near heber az, , then a dude that won the lottery hunt, that’s a week unrestricted before the season opens had bagged it. It was massive. I’ve seen it. My son is fighting depression now lol lol
For those saying that it's not a world record unless it's on public land you've got to be kidding me. So if i kill a world record whitetail on my farm it doesn't count because it was on private land? You think an animal knows the difference between private and public land. As long as the animal can free roam and the animal can come and go as it pleases, it doesn't matter if the land is private and public. Now it's another story if the animal is fenced in with high fences and can't leave, but don't tell me that it can't be a world record if it isn't on public land.
You must be dumb as crap to say that nobody said anything about private/public land just that using a guide service where it takes no skill just money is the equivalent to cheating
Where this bull was located was right next to a game farm. Shit like this doesn't exist in the wild. Look at its horns it's not hard to tell it is a captive bred bull
I finally watched this after it kept coming up on my suggested videos. All this footage and no kill shot? I also think having this huge crew to help find the bull and the "governor's tag" purchased for 170K take away from this trophy. The hunter might as well have shot the bull on an elk farm. Disliked the video for these reasons, but I did enjoy the footage especially when the bull was in velvet. Fair chase? Very debatable.
$170k seriously? That's insane. Besides, I've only scored one buck, and no elk, I shot a 7x7 last year and have no idea what it scores, the fun is in the hunt. I guess to each his own, but for that much money I'd do drop camps the rest of my life LOL!
Everyone could talk crap but when it comes down to the gun mossback has all the great animals i cant wait till they come to my ranch in NM. we got a 391&3/8th bull and i thought that was big wow
I seen this rack on display in thatcher az. I didn’t know there was so much foul play . I know elk but my first impression of it was… ‘’ I have a lot of questions cause it smells’’ . All these guides? 150000$ ? Cameras watching his every move for weeks. , I’ll say this, like Barry bonds and his cheating the home run record with performance drugs, this bull should have a (*) next to its record and note that basically says this was certainly a questionable hunt. Get a confirmed spotting, ( by a woman? Not even a guide?) and pay your money, get in your jet , fly out , pussy foot around cause that old man can’t hike, and shoot it when convenient ? Private land , 175000$ what seems like a bribe to the state to fix things? . And no footage available even of the actual kill. Yeah…sure… and the man wasn’t even excited , and the antlers taken out of state for display in az? ( unless the mount was a copy which it wasn’t) … sniff sniff..you smell something? but in related news, My son lost a chance on a 420 this week waiting for archery to start He watched it for a few days near heber az, , then a dude that won the lottery hunt, that’s a week unrestricted before the season opens had bagged it. It was massive. I’ve seen it. My son is fighting depression now lol lol
I don't get all the disrespect for this animal and the guides. Lets see your footage of a 500" bull from summer till death. It takes commitment, love, passion, and time. Its not just a walk in the park. It is a magnificent beast and you all should feel ashamed for dishonoring this trophy free ranging bull elk. Mossback crew congratulations to your success and hardwork. I hope that some day you kill one bigger!
As long as they aren't engaging in unethical behavior. Problem is many guides chase animals into an area they control. I personally hate unethical land owners and guides. Nothing better than pimps.
Seth heath absolutely. if YOU YOURSELF are not good enough to take the animal, then you DO NOT deserve it. canned hunts/baiting? any who indulge in such Holocausts should be burned where they sleep, along with their vermin kin.
Exactly that animal got to that size because the weak hunters cant find it. Now just can be a dentist and pay for yourself to be called a great hunter hahahahahahahahaaaa
I never comment, but I was told by many people, that the outfitter had his men sit on this bull all summer "patterning" him, never letting it out of their sights. Harassing other hunters that new of this bull, going as far as slashing their tires. The outfitter was disgraceful. All for money. If half of the stories are true, this guy is a true dirt bag.
A guy I knew that bought sheds from me heard that the bull was farm raised and let loose. He said that someone maybe from Boone and Crocket investigated and found the bull was not wild. Has anyone heard this before? Is that true?
I bieleve it, like you said its very suspicious that this big old farm raised bull pops out if no where.. no previous sightings sheds... nada then BAM new worl record. Wonder how much mossback paid B&C and others or if they are still paying.. they been known to block roads in the area they are in... they have even used planes and helicopters.. to locate and chase.. they have people following and watching 24/7. pathetic they have to lie and cheat their way to glory.. real sportsmans..NOT!!!!...JACK OFFS.
The only guy who isn't excited is the silly old duffer who pointed his gun and pulled the trigger. You can see his confusion and anticlimax as he realises that he has paid a huge amount of money, and everyone else did the hunting for him. The price you pay for hunting like this is that every time you look at the trophy on your wall you feel a small, secret wave of shame that you simply shot it rather than hunting it. When the whole story is on youtube, you can't even lie about how brave you were..!
Lol I know right. Most of these so called hunters are full of shit. They set up feeders and go to them while the elk are feeding and kill them. So lame. Where is the fun? They don't even respect the land. You gotta work for the hunt. Walk miles searching for your hunt. It's so lame to just sit up in a tree and watch them come up and eat the food you left them.
He’s a millionaire who greased the palms of the Utah wildlife commissioner in the amount of $170,000 ! They say it at the end about his donation! So He bribed the Utah wildlife commissioner for a tag 🏷 in that area and bought him a world record. Just so he could sit around and show it on the wall to all of his millionaire friends when they come over and say he holds the world record. But what he don’t tell them is he paid big big money and greased a lot of Palms & Cheated and done Some shady 💩 to get it. That’s not hunting ! That’s no different than hunting in a fenced in area of raised animals. This old Coot couldn’t hunt him a pack of ham to make him sandwich 🥪 out of the refrigerator. He probably has a butler to do that for him, and wipe his ass too. 🤣
Would those that post these great videos please restrict comments to be filtered so something this special isn't denigrated? It gets annoying with all the anti-hunting comments you have to go through to get to the comments of people who care about wildlife...
This was my dad’s target bull back in 2008 he and his cousins had been tracking him all summer and new exactly where his core area was he had also seen the spider bull in previous years he was going to shoot the bull but he got called to active duty in Afghanistan for the Air Force before the hunt and mossback stole right from under his nose while on duty
Watching their reaction to this kill is literally sickening. You can tell that the old dude has no true and pure emotions. Hes showing all of through his emotions that this animal and the entire hunt was a damn scam. NOBODY in this entire world is that calm when it comes to hunting an animal of that caliber for their supposed 12 days and NOT be excited. Idc how many damn animals you've killed. This is literally gut wrenching. These people should be blasted and exposed on every sportsmans outlet as the frauds that they are
Austad has killed more inches then u and I have seen!! So the "excitement" thing I don't buy. However, I would like to know if any biologists ever proved if he was wild or farm raised and escaped or was released
Cow calls didn't work? Try rattling a bucket of corn. Farm pet bull. How many times did you have to corral him and split the tines to get all those sticker points?
well "captain", first off I believe there's a reverence. that bull has survived this long to be able to get that big ( putting aside genetics)and it's final moment is far more stressful/painful with a bullet then the sting of an arrow. I have hunted all my life with everything from muzzle loader, modern rifle to bow. I have shot animals with my bow that was so clean, it jumped looked around and went back to feeding before it layed down dead. I love animals and thank God every time he see's fit to bless me to take one. Just my opinion.
This is a good Elk, and I have lived in the area 12+yrs, so have heard stories about MossBack, most are what you read here, he pays folks to just sit and watch the good prizes 24/7 before and during hunts, does close down roads, and a wood cutter got a surprise when ole doyle was angry at him cutting wood some years ago, and even threatened then shoved his rifle in his chest.. so the young man (just returned from Iraq) took the rifle from him and tossed it down the gully, along with a 4 wheeler.. thats about how the locals feel about MossBack. It is more of a herd with horses type hunts.. however with the spyder bull, they knew where he was, many were looking to take him that year, they do block access to the public mountain to all but his clients or try to.. the shooter did spend over 100 -200 K est. Gov Tag, so he got his monies worth, and even after missing this elk the 1st time, and loosing it, another local found it, called mossback (got the finders bounty -a good one and then the hunter from Idaho If I remember right came back (a week or so later) and finally took him down. It was a huge investment in 24/7 many many employees and bounty hunters looking, watching, and making the hunt a success, as to if they hereded this one bull not sure. But the hunter is not to blame as far as that goes, he paid for and got a successful guided hunt.. the locals just dont like the Un Ethical behaviors of MossBack and its history in the region. There are many other local good ethical guides who offer hunts in the area, and there are really good Elk and deer still around the Monroe area.. all though I hear the Henry Mts to the south East have the biggest Deers still. Well as a future hunter, hope I can find a good elk some day, my philosophy is Hunt for the food (which we really need) and if they come with a nice rack so be it. I feel if you shoot it, better eat it.. as for the trophy 1st hunters, keep hunting, brings millions into Utah and billions into the American Ecomony.. keeping people working.. If you can afford a guide, then do so. have a bud who makes extra to pay his bills by helping a buddy of his who is a pro guide.. such is the way of life. Helping others to succeed with their dreams and providing income for you family at the same time. The American Way.. doing what you like to do.
I lived in salida for about 12 months and bailey before that, and while I cant comment one way or the other on mossback's behavior, I PROMISE you there is zero reason to hunt unethically in Colorado, there's just too many amazing elk, and mulies, and bighorns and antelope, even now. if you have a half knowledgeable, and honorable guide, its way more often than not money very well spent. I've been privileged to have cooked and eaten the fruits of many friend's hunts, and I hope to someday get back out there and take my own trophy elk the right way.
I love all the keyboard warrior comments such as, "No skill... pay to play..." It all sounds like nothing but petty jealousy to me. There are actually people griping about the lack of a kill shot. What's wrong with you? The world record elk was taken on film for all to see. You are able to view it for free. Denny Austad shows a lot humility with culmination of the hunt. He gives full credit to those that helped him. The 170k$ will undoubtedly benefit elk throughout the state of Utah. It's derogatory comments like many that I have read that keep people from posting their videos on TH-cam.
It's on the B&C page. They neglect to mention it was a paid and guided hunt on a Governor's tag. Would have been better if just a regular ole' guy got it. But oh well.
Wow nice bull! I wish I had money to hire a group of guys to find me a big bull like that so when it's time to kill it I just go where they tell me and shoot it with a rifle from hundreds of yards away. But then that wouldn't be hunting. I'll stick to doing things myself the hard way and with a bow! A record don't mean anything unless you put the work in yourself. But impressive bull! Good job mossback for finding that bull for him.
I'm not asking for a record book to care you idiot I'm wishing for money so I can pay shits like you to do all the work for me! So don't get hurt I speak the truth!
Spent time in fishlake national Forrest on a fire in Utah and seen lots of elk and never knew this bull was killed there and had a idea it was cause it's unique terrain features were recognized
funny story: I grew up hunting the public land around where this bull was killed and on a couple occasions family and friends had him within 150 yards with a limited entry archery tag before he moved over to the Monroe. What a shame we couldn't of taken him and the purchaser of the Governor's Tag gets to have it handed to him by three guides. Oh and also it doesn't show it, but he missed TWICE within 200 yards with a rifle. "Anyways I want to thank the guides once again for 12 days "WE" hunted" but he actually only went out in the field three times after the bull was already located by the guides. Absolute bullshit
This bull was planted there. This bull did not natrually grow up there. Its a pen bull. So, no. You did not hunt this animal or see this elk growing up.
@@jordanurioste1092 u don't know that... multiple people in the comments have said they new about him before. Its just a bunch of jealous angry people spreading bullshit. Some hunters are just petty jealous bitches. The dude put a shit load of money towards wildlife conservation with buying the tag.
@@jordanurioste1092 just swinging back to this and that’s 100% not true this bull has been followed since he was a two year old. Learn your shit before opening your big mouth.
@@tyrelroberge6874 yes, people are angry that Mossback closes roads off and scared this bull from other hunters in order to get the dude three shots at him. People aren’t jealous though lmao.
One of my friends has an elk farm that he doesn’t even use to hunt he collects the sheds and sells them he treats the elk like pets he even goes right up to the elk and pets them one day we found a huge at least 430 bull that one guy even offered $40,000 to let him hunt that bull but my friend refused because he became friends with the bull and liked him the bull lived for 14 years ever year getting a little bigger the biggest he ever got was probably 450-460 and even I considered the bull a pet and friend the bull would always let me pet it when the bull died we had a little funeral it felt like losing a family member
That guide lost his tip, if it were me! Very rude grabbing the bull before the hunter! I played this 3 times at the shot, what happened to the kill shot?
DAN ALLEN I hate when they do that! We don't touch our elk or deer until we've got the death pictures taken, then we can touch it and get the rest of the pictures, then we clean it out! I'd say let him get some pictures of it before anyone touches it!
farmed and released couple days before the hunt to ensure the client gets a trophy more money you throw at the guide bigger the bull they get outer the paddock
Nobody has any sheds from this bull, so Ante up and show them! The only validly claimed "observation" was from the previous year by a Mossback affiliate. B & C used a retired Ut Wildlife employee to verify current Ut Wildlife findings. The report contradicts itself and verifies the animal was continuously camped in July, August and then September.
Why is this such a heated debate? I'm just getting into hunting and I'm confused as to why so many people are critical to how this was done...? Send me a message if you feel like replying.
It does not matter if it is one acre or one million acres, if all the laws and regulations for fair chase are followed it is legitimate. I killed a Pop & Young whitetail on my 40 this year. It was a buck I had never viewed before. Does that eliminate it from being an archery book buck because it was on my 40? NO!
mike hawk absolutely. a "hunt" is an even contest of your SKILL as a predator against it's skill as prey. if it annot escape? that isn't hunting. that is baiting. & baiters should be burned at the stake as the miscreant abominations & parasites that they are.
mike hawk No he wasn't fenced in. He would disappear for months. There is a lot of dense forest up on the monroe and I wouldn't surprised if there are larger up there.
I hate the fact that the guide ran too the bull first. Sure, the "hunter"paid a shit ton of $$ for that bul but he should be the first to grab them antlers. Also, I dont see the sport in paying a guide service to find my elk, have crews camp out on it for weeks on end (too follow and make sure know one else kills it) then take me exactly where it is and tell me when to pull the trigger. Im pretty suspect that the "hunter" actually killed it. They film this thing for weeks, getting hours of footage and no kill shot? But they got the after shot reaction......seems pretty shady to me! I wonder what the guide would have done if there was another guy hunting it and they crossed paths.......maybe kick down a portion of the $30-$50k that guy paid them to camp on it? Id have shot it from underneath their noses.
A complaint was filed with B & C regarding this hunt and the state officers involved. Read the final report it has serious holes in it. At one point the report actually confirms "camping" of the bull by the outfitter. This Bull was farm raised by UT. his bull was NEVER seen in the area before, and this area is HEAVILY hunted every year. No Sheds anywhere, ever. No sightings until three weeks before the hunt, unless you count the statement by Mossback's guide. B&C need to answer the Complaint.
At least he bred some cows there!
Go Find and read my comment! 😉
@@jn8055 someone should GRAMA DNR hunting licenses for DNR management staff and their kids, you will find several who seemed to always draw a tag, the facts of this Bull's case are contained in the notes, files and records with UT DNR law enforcement officers who responded and assisted in this hunt. B & C knows yet continues to recognize it because of the "contributions" of this hunter to the "sport"
@@slowhands8869it's funny u say that. I know 1 family who has drawn 4 utah sportsman tags!! Ironically one of which hunted elk on Monroe right around the time of the spider bull! So yes, something fishy going on for sure!!!
@@slowhands8869agreed
Started patterning him? At the food trough? LOL
Hunter Denny Austad is the world record holder for the biggest non-typical elk. His trophy bull was nicknamed “Spider-bull” for its web-like antlers. Austad hunted the bull in Utah, and paid $150,000 for tag to do it. The bull scored 478 5/8 on the Boone and Crockett scale.Mar 26, 2014. I figured this was a paid fenced in hunt. 150, 000 bucks for a Bull is wild!
Hes paid alot more for governors tags since then. And he for sure killed it on Monroe. The question is was he an escaped farm bull, or "planted" farm bull. However I'm sure the state investigated it and it would be easy to tell if he had been a farm bull
16:57 when he realized that the rich old dude would now be cutting him a MASSIVE check !!!
This is undoubtedly one of the most embarrassing "hunts" I've ever seen
That's the word that comes to my mind too, embarrassing.
This bull along with the 475" Monster taken in the 2012 season are both farm raised bulls out of NEBRASKA!! I personally know the worlds foremost official on world record elk and mule deer. He is also the legend on shed pick ups dead head finds. The area where this bull was taken is very hard to get drawn for but is covered each year by hunters & shed hunters. His shed has NEVER BEEN FOUND BEFORE! Mark my words "In the next year or so Selnar & his crew will prove this bull to be farm raised"!
Didn’t you hear him say at the end that the man who killed it donated $170K to Utah wildlife conservation? That’s how he obtained a tag 🏷 for that area that he otherwise wouldn’t have drawn or wasn’t gonna draw! I see your comment was 9 years ago have you heard any more news/evidence ect about this particular record ?
All I can say is it was a millionaire buying himself a world record Elk with lots of money 💰. Which is 💩 in my world record book!
Any update
Foremost authority on sheds and dead heads 😂😂😂hilarious absolutely hilarious Danial Boone JR.😂😂
Do you take the tag out of the ear before or after you shot him?
I'm confused. You had multiple cameras the entire hunt and no one got the kill shot? Hmmm
Fur Addicts that’s cause they shot him 5 feet from the truck when he walked over for food.
And probably at night to make sure no one witnessed anything.
Fun fact this guys spent 150k plus from his governor tag and for guides to run people off and watch that bull 24/7 and he flew in and hiked a quarter of a mile shot him and flew back to California.
@@ClaytonButler06 How so you know?
@@joelalexander5338 i explained it in my comment sir.
This hunt smells to high heaven...
Great 3D print job! Almost looks real!
My question is, Why do they have so much video footage of an animal that's supposed to be wild?
Wild on a high fenced ranch
Guides who take out people with the governers tags sometimes hang out in the woods for months before the hunts. They build up a portfolio of quality animals and bring these videos and pictures to the client and the client gets to choose which animal they want to try to hunt. Guides do slot of pre scouting
That farm bull probably walked up to the trunk thinking he was getting a flake of hay. He must have been so confused when mossbutt pulled a rifle 5 feet away.
This bull was shot 100 % public land I am from the area where was shot trust me I know
@@WyattHatch-w7gno you don’t , did you see him years prior, does anybody else have him on video from other years ? Sheds ?
Half you people probably don't even hunt so, why in the hell are you even watching this video and complaining about "Ohhh as soon as it's shot it starts to bloat and the meat starts to spoil" I've taken my 6 bucks all in the temps around 75 degrees and it takes a good ,half an hour to an hour to gut it out the temp was probably a lot cooler there and therefore they had time to let their excitement out. Hunters have the most respect for animals out of most people in the world( my opinion) so instead of criticizing hunters and complaining maybe don't watch the video so you don't get your feelings hurt.
That bull was brought in from some ranch. Never been seen until that year, no sheds found, no bulls with even close to the same genes anywhere??? Sounds a little strange to me. Very similar characteristics to ranch bulls I see all the time. Awesome for the guy to be able to shoot a bull like that, but he shouldn't have been led to believe it was a wild bull.
I’ve met the guy several times at different hunting festivities around Utah. He is no different than Mosscock and his boys. He just wanted his name in the book, nothing more and with even less respect for the animal which is the worst part.
What are you on about, that bull has been spotted months before they killed him and some bow hunter missed a shot on him. What kinda of idiot would release a world record bull months before, giving other hunters a chance to kill him
This man is wealthy he most likely found out about a world 🌍 record Elk being there. So he wanted the world record he wasn’t gonna get a outta state draw Tag 🏷. So he paid Utah $170K for a wildlife conservation donation to Buy his way in on this Bull ! Otherwise he wouldn’t have gotten a tag 🏷! There’s no telling who else was paid off to keep other hunters out of that area. My opinion anymore and gets a world record in that fashion should not be awarded the record books 📖! That’s as dirty as it comes to just buy urself a world record that’s not real hunting.....that’s a millionaire paying for what he wants! And the ones in Utah who let him do that for $$$$ all needs to be fired from their jobs, if they’re even still in those wildlife positions of government! That’s no different than politicians taking payoffs from special interest groups and in turn giving favors to the ones who paid them.
Damn thing acted tame as hell😂😂😂until he took a bullet and is now known as the spider monkey 😂😂😂😂 could card less about the farm elk myself!!!!
My dad had been seeing this bull years before
I live on the monroe on the Piute side and I can tell you he's not that HUGE compared to the other elk on that mountain. I wouldn't doubt that there is a bigger bull on that mountain. Monroe is pretty untouched by man compared to the other mountains in the area, leaving a lot of room for these trophies to hide. Its also a lot more difficult to get a monroe tag as well, so that helps. I really don't believe any of the theories that claimed he was a farm bull. We heard stories about him for a good 2 or 3 years before he was finally shot.
finally another good ole Utah resident that knows what they talkin bout instead of these damn ARA's!
why are you telling the whole world. you crazy.
I've shed hunted the Monroe down towards the narrows and I agree there are some monsters along with Kelly flats by loa amazing area
Scott Montgomery ... because like he said. Good luck getting the tag. These aren’t public hunting units and for good reason. If they were, bulls would be scarce, let alone bulls of this caliber. Within the next several years I will have the points to draw this tag and I am looking forward to it so I don’t have to deal with the armies of the “shoot anything that has horns” mentality. Do I think some guides are unethical... absolutely. But I do not know these guys personally and will respect any other hunters unless I have proof otherwise. If they are hunting unethically their day will come. Guaranteed. Karma is a bitch, especially when hunting these amazing animals.
Nick Olsen sooo, where’s the sheds?
This just gets me in a hunting mood
me too
You didn't video the shot???...
money can buy you anything. but a true hunt.
Pretty nice farmed bull. Too bad Mossbutt can't find one like that on public land.
+I Have Vigors This was not a ranch bull. It was killed on public land in Utah.
+The Legend Channel it was released into wild
+The Legend Channel there was no photos of it before that year
your full of shit...this is a farmed bull and this was all a few years I the making.....this s not a real hunt or is this a real hunter
Where are the sheds and photos of the bull from years past? With the way you and your crew keeps tabs on all these animals it's hard to believe that you had never seen him before. The Bull was killed in 2008 correct? Where are his children at?
Those of you living on Moss' every word plz understand that monster Bull elk & mule deer buck do not just "show up", like he would like you to believe. They don't get big overnight. They have to grow that big. No hunter or anyone else for that matter had ever seen or heard of this bull before 2008! Come on Doyle Moss! You know your world record ride is going to end & when it does your name will permanently be ruined! Just tell the truth before you bring the B&C Scoring Commission down with you!
AZbowhntrs2009 I live in utah ive seen a bull that was no question in my mind bigger then the spider bull. It was a rainy day opener of the elk hunt saw some elk on an cliff we drove to the opening of this canyon the gate said please close gate thank you blm land, the gate had to be enough to keep People out thinking it was private, guy ran cattle out of their, we drove so far before our truck started slipping, we tied up to anything we could find we waited for it to freeze over so we could stop slipping we watched a heard of cow elk under what we thought was a tree finally after of hours of watching these elk on the face the tree gets up we realize its a bull elk thing is just standing and its horns go past its ass i counted 7 and 8 horns on each side and i know there was horns i was missing the horns were so thick it looked pre historic. Then we got up close and the bottom of the mountain sticks out and its nothing but trees you go to left or right your shots blocked and when we did get on top you saw it had forever and ever with untouched canyons to travel the only way to really get in there on the back side is with helicopter!! So are there elk out there yes!! Is the spider bull one of them no!! But southern utah does have big bulls and its a shame utah sold out to money
Amen to that ! That Bull was bought with $170K donation to Utah wildlife conservation. Crooked crap is what that is & I couldn’t live with that on my conscience that I obtained a world record Elk that way.
Dojocho
You can see from my handle that I'm from MT also.
Keep up the good work.
Montana is what America was!
One internet hero actually posted that "Any game taken with the aid of a guide should be disqualified from the record books." There will be a whole lot less Dall Sheep, Brown Bear and Mountain Goats in the record books then. All of those species are mandatory guided hunts in Alaska unless you have someone of second degree kindred or greater that is an Alaska resident. Those hunters may have been guided, but they still had to drag themselves up the mountain, endure whatever nature dishes out and make the shot.
was this a limited draw hunt district? was it public land accessible to general public and not accessible only through a private land owner. That and only that makes it a truly Public Hunt
I would love to know that
He donated $180,000 to get the "hunt".
Ok so I'm gonna make a few points here. I've bee hunting since I could walk. And in my years of hunting I've always taken the oldest "trophy" bucks or bulls. I would rather let the younger ones grow and mature and spread there genetics to future generations. And if I don't find the "trophy" I don't shoot. at the end of the day I'm not starving and don't need to kill an animal. It's honestly more the thrill of the hunt for me. And if I do kill it, I kill it more humanly then most slaughterhouses quick and clean. Also we eat the meat... Plus and awesome rack for the wall. Win win. I will admit this video is done in a way that makes it seem like that elk was almost captive and was farmed. I see it all the time especially when I hunt in Montana. People (shitty rich people) pay big money for big animals. The guides know exactly where these animals hang out.
Ive been hunting since I was 12(35 years) now and its absurd to assume trophy animals are the oldest,antler growth has little to do with age
Chris Welch
There are plenty of studies to contradict you. Antler size in Mule Deer peak around 5-7 years of age. Elk at 8-10. It even says he was 8 years old and had 2 or so more years of mass gain in the video. Check this link: aces.nmsu.edu/pubs/_l/l-111/welcome.html Thats a study by New Mexico State. . . so your 35 years have been in vain. You will NEVER see a yearling walking around with 5x6 antlers scoring in the 200s (mule deer).
Nicholas G 170k isn't rich and the guy who gave the money was an old grandpa. U haters need a life. N if u think 170k is bein rich that's pretty sad
Mosinlogan it's older than 3 they said 8 or something
Nicholas G I agree that all young bucks should be able to grow and mature but I help feed a family of 8 and if I get the chance at a buck you bet I'm shooting but at the same time trying to make it the most humane kill
you guys ever find any of his off spring?
Jealous people just can't help but comment and try to take away from the magnificence of these beautiful animals. This guide service works hard to find these monsters. Record Book Bull.These guys are professional hunters. 800 yards
If you think "hunting" an animal at half a mile, having a team of "guides" follow it for weeks, while pulling the tag by spending hundreds of thousands of dollars is something to be admired you are part of the problem.
Kindly but jealous? I seen this rack on display in thatcher az. I didn’t know there was so much foul play . I know elk but my first impression of it was… ‘’ I have a lot of questions cause it smells’’ . All these guides? 150000$ ? Cameras watching his every move for weeks. , I’ll say this, like Barry bonds and his cheating the home run record with performance drugs, this bull should have a (*) next to its record and note that basically says this was certainly a questionable hunt. Get a confirmed spotting, ( by a woman? Not even a guide?) and pay your money, get in your jet , fly out , pussy foot around cause that old man can’t hike, and shoot it when convenient ? Private land , 175000$ what seems like a bribe to the state to fix things? . And no footage available even of the actual kill. Yeah…sure… and the man wasn’t even excited , and the antlers taken out of state for display in az? ( unless the mount was a copy which it wasn’t) … sniff sniff..you smell something? but in related news, My son lost a chance on a 420 this week waiting for archery to start He watched it for a few days near heber az, , then a dude that won the lottery hunt, that’s a week unrestricted before the season opens had bagged it. It was massive. I’ve seen it. My son is fighting depression now lol lol
For those saying that it's not a world record unless it's on public land you've got to be kidding me. So if i kill a world record whitetail on my farm it doesn't count because it was on private land? You think an animal knows the difference between private and public land. As long as the animal can free roam and the animal can come and go as it pleases, it doesn't matter if the land is private and public. Now it's another story if the animal is fenced in with high fences and can't leave, but don't tell me that it can't be a world record if it isn't on public land.
You must be dumb as crap to say that nobody said anything about private/public land just that using a guide service where it takes no skill just money is the equivalent to cheating
Where this bull was located was right next to a game farm. Shit like this doesn't exist in the wild. Look at its horns it's not hard to tell it is a captive bred bull
I finally watched this after it kept coming up on my suggested videos. All this footage and no kill shot? I also think having this huge crew to help find the bull and the "governor's tag" purchased for 170K take away from this trophy. The hunter might as well have shot the bull on an elk farm. Disliked the video for these reasons, but I did enjoy the footage especially when the bull was in velvet. Fair chase? Very debatable.
$170k seriously? That's insane. Besides, I've only scored one buck, and no elk, I shot a 7x7 last year and have no idea what it scores, the fun is in the hunt. I guess to each his own, but for that much money I'd do drop camps the rest of my life LOL!
Clint Perkinson it was in the wild they follow it the entire year never heard of how these places operate ?
170 Thousand dollar Governors tag! Wow! That's sportsmanship at its finest!
Jack Fleagle and he proudly hung it on his wall and called himself a sportsman 😂
Thats cheap for a goveners tag az is like 360 thousand
Everyone could talk crap but when it comes down to the gun mossback has all the great animals i cant wait till they come to my ranch in NM. we got a 391&3/8th bull and i thought that was big wow
What gun are you shooting these elk with
What a bummer after all that footage of this big bull and at the end there's none of the actual kill. ☹
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE KILL SHOT?
HATERS- just because u can't find big bulls doesn't mean they are not there why bash the guy get a life y'all jealous..great bull man good for u
everyone on here talking shit would take the opportunity to do this if they got the chance
@@aaronspeed3355I agree
I seen this rack on display in thatcher az. I didn’t know there was so much foul play . I know elk but my first impression of it was… ‘’ I have a lot of questions cause it smells’’ . All these guides? 150000$ ? Cameras watching his every move for weeks. , I’ll say this, like Barry bonds and his cheating the home run record with performance drugs, this bull should have a (*) next to its record and note that basically says this was certainly a questionable hunt. Get a confirmed spotting, ( by a woman? Not even a guide?) and pay your money, get in your jet , fly out , pussy foot around cause that old man can’t hike, and shoot it when convenient ? Private land , 175000$ what seems like a bribe to the state to fix things? . And no footage available even of the actual kill. Yeah…sure… and the man wasn’t even excited , and the antlers taken out of state for display in az? ( unless the mount was a copy which it wasn’t) … sniff sniff..you smell something? but in related news, My son lost a chance on a 420 this week waiting for archery to start He watched it for a few days near heber az, , then a dude that won the lottery hunt, that’s a week unrestricted before the season opens had bagged it. It was massive. I’ve seen it. My son is fighting depression now lol lol
How many set's of sheds did they find from this bull? What did he score the year before. Nice vid.
Probably would need to ask someone at the ranch he came from
Mossback blows man.. Whats with the music? Was this video made by John Williams and Steven Spielberg?
I don't get all the disrespect for this animal and the guides. Lets see your footage of a 500" bull from summer till death. It takes commitment, love, passion, and time. Its not just a walk in the park. It is a magnificent beast and you all should feel ashamed for dishonoring this trophy free ranging bull elk. Mossback crew congratulations to your success and hardwork. I hope that some day you kill one bigger!
As long as they aren't engaging in unethical behavior. Problem is many guides chase animals into an area they control. I personally hate unethical land owners and guides. Nothing better than pimps.
Seth heath absolutely. if YOU YOURSELF are not good enough to take the animal, then you DO NOT deserve it. canned hunts/baiting? any who indulge in such Holocausts should be burned where they sleep, along with their vermin kin.
I feel you
Exactly that animal got to that size because the weak hunters cant find it. Now just can be a dentist and pay for yourself to be called a great hunter hahahahahahahahaaaa
Well it kinda is a walk in the park well farm that is was raised on then double d doll bought him and his hunter shot him ....
judging by the comments im gonna find something else to watch... haha
Can you elaborate on this please for those of us who've never heard of any of this before?
Very nice video, amazing Elk.
A real guide would never grab the antlers before the hunter.
Left the hunter have some time, amateur.
Good ol doyle moss grab the antlers right away and pull out a tape measure
I never comment, but I was told by many people, that the outfitter had his men sit on this bull all summer "patterning" him, never letting it out of their sights. Harassing other hunters that new of this bull, going as far as slashing their tires. The outfitter was disgraceful. All for money. If half of the stories are true, this guy is a true dirt bag.
so you "were told" just rumor...
A guy I knew that bought sheds from me heard that the bull was farm raised and let loose. He said that someone maybe from Boone and Crocket investigated and found the bull was not wild. Has anyone heard this before? Is that true?
I bieleve it, like you said its very suspicious that this big old farm raised bull pops out if no where.. no previous sightings sheds... nada then BAM new worl record. Wonder how much mossback paid B&C and others or if they are still paying.. they been known to block roads in the area they are in... they have even used planes and helicopters.. to locate and chase.. they have people following and watching 24/7. pathetic they have to lie and cheat their way to glory.. real sportsmans..NOT!!!!...JACK OFFS.
The only guy who isn't excited is the silly old duffer who pointed his gun and pulled the trigger. You can see his confusion and anticlimax as he realises that he has paid a huge amount of money, and everyone else did the hunting for him. The price you pay for hunting like this is that every time you look at the trophy on your wall you feel a small, secret wave of shame that you simply shot it rather than hunting it. When the whole story is on youtube, you can't even lie about how brave you were..!
Lol I know right. Most of these so called hunters are full of shit. They set up feeders and go to them while the elk are feeding and kill them. So lame. Where is the fun? They don't even respect the land. You gotta work for the hunt. Walk miles searching for your hunt. It's so lame to just sit up in a tree and watch them come up and eat the food you left them.
He’s a millionaire who greased the palms of the Utah wildlife commissioner in the amount of $170,000 ! They say it at the end about his donation! So He bribed the Utah wildlife commissioner for a tag 🏷 in that area and bought him a world record. Just so he could sit around and show it on the wall to all of his millionaire friends when they come over and say he holds the world record. But what he don’t tell them is he paid big big money and greased a lot of Palms & Cheated and done Some shady 💩 to get it. That’s not hunting ! That’s no different than hunting in a fenced in area of raised animals. This old Coot couldn’t hunt him a pack of ham to make him sandwich 🥪 out of the refrigerator. He probably has a butler to do that for him, and wipe his ass too. 🤣
@@Jamez8888happy to say the law is cracking down on that in az
Would those that post these great videos please restrict comments to be filtered so something this special isn't denigrated? It gets annoying with all the anti-hunting comments you have to go through to get to the comments of people who care about wildlife...
nice bull. we got a bull around here looks like this one. I got within a 100 yards of him while cat trapping, counted 27 points.
Coordinates?
This was my dad’s target bull back in 2008 he and his cousins had been tracking him all summer and new exactly where his core area was he had also seen the spider bull in previous years he was going to shoot the bull but he got called to active duty in Afghanistan for the Air Force before the hunt and mossback stole right from under his nose while on duty
Watching their reaction to this kill is literally sickening. You can tell that the old dude has no true and pure emotions. Hes showing all of through his emotions that this animal and the entire hunt was a damn scam. NOBODY in this entire world is that calm when it comes to hunting an animal of that caliber for their supposed 12 days and NOT be excited. Idc how many damn animals you've killed.
This is literally gut wrenching. These people should be blasted and exposed on every sportsmans outlet as the frauds that they are
Go find and read my comment! 😉
Austad has killed more inches then u and I have seen!! So the "excitement" thing I don't buy. However, I would like to know if any biologists ever proved if he was wild or farm raised and escaped or was released
Wow!! such a beauty!!
Cow calls didn't work? Try rattling a bucket of corn. Farm pet bull. How many times did you have to corral him and split the tines to get all those sticker points?
well "captain", first off I believe there's a reverence. that bull has survived this long to be able to get that big ( putting aside genetics)and it's final moment is far more stressful/painful with a bullet then the sting of an arrow. I have hunted all my life with everything from muzzle loader, modern rifle to bow. I have shot animals with my bow that was so clean, it jumped looked around and went back to feeding before it layed down dead. I love animals and thank God every time he see's fit to bless me to take one. Just my opinion.
This is a good Elk, and I have lived in the area 12+yrs, so have heard stories about MossBack, most are what you read here, he pays folks to just sit and watch the good prizes 24/7 before and during hunts, does close down roads, and a wood cutter got a surprise when ole doyle was angry at him cutting wood some years ago, and even threatened then shoved his rifle in his chest.. so the young man (just returned from Iraq) took the rifle from him and tossed it down the gully, along with a 4 wheeler.. thats about how the locals feel about MossBack. It is more of a herd with horses type hunts.. however with the spyder bull, they knew where he was, many were looking to take him that year, they do block access to the public mountain to all but his clients or try to.. the shooter did spend over 100 -200 K est. Gov Tag, so he got his monies worth, and even after missing this elk the 1st time, and loosing it, another local found it, called mossback (got the finders bounty -a good one and then the hunter from Idaho If I remember right came back (a week or so later) and finally took him down. It was a huge investment in 24/7 many many employees and bounty hunters looking, watching, and making the hunt a success, as to if they hereded this one bull not sure. But the hunter is not to blame as far as that goes, he paid for and got a successful guided hunt.. the locals just dont like the Un Ethical behaviors of MossBack and its history in the region. There are many other local good ethical guides who offer hunts in the area, and there are really good Elk and deer still around the Monroe area.. all though I hear the Henry Mts to the south East have the biggest Deers still. Well as a future hunter, hope I can find a good elk some day, my philosophy is Hunt for the food (which we really need) and if they come with a nice rack so be it. I feel if you shoot it, better eat it.. as for the trophy 1st hunters, keep hunting, brings millions into Utah and billions into the American Ecomony.. keeping people working.. If you can afford a guide, then do so. have a bud who makes extra to pay his bills by helping a buddy of his who is a pro guide.. such is the way of life. Helping others to succeed with their dreams and providing income for you family at the same time. The American Way.. doing what you like to do.
I lived in salida for about 12 months and bailey before that, and while I cant comment one way or the other on mossback's behavior, I PROMISE you there is zero reason to hunt unethically in Colorado, there's just too many amazing elk, and mulies, and bighorns and antelope, even now. if you have a half knowledgeable, and honorable guide, its way more often than not money very well spent. I've been privileged to have cooked and eaten the fruits of many friend's hunts, and I hope to someday get back out there and take my own trophy elk the right way.
Hey man, don't be giving all the best places away. The Henry's are barren, send up to SLC, LOL.
Stephen Huls thanks for the tip 🎯🇺🇸
I love all the keyboard warrior comments such as, "No skill... pay to play..." It all sounds like nothing but petty jealousy to me. There are actually people griping about the lack of a kill shot. What's wrong with you? The world record elk was taken on film for all to see. You are able to view it for free. Denny Austad shows a lot humility with culmination of the hunt. He gives full credit to those that helped him. The 170k$ will undoubtedly benefit elk throughout the state of Utah. It's derogatory comments like many that I have read that keep people from posting their videos on TH-cam.
The best bull money can buy.
This bad boy had to walk around with a headache about half the time, I would have thought ... his rack so heavy!
What's the price on something like this...?
Too much if you have to ask.
I agree.No trophy in that!
This music makes me feel like I'm watching Star Trek III The Search for Spock.
Had to have been a ranch raised bull the set into the wild for the hunt
If he wouldn't respond to a call he was probably deaf ha ha ha!
Thats exactly what this case is. A ranch raised bull
What money can buy!
How much did you make?
It's on the B&C page. They neglect to mention it was a paid and guided hunt on a Governor's tag. Would have been better if just a regular ole' guy got it. But oh well.
Thanks for the positive comment. This bull has created strong opinions on both sides. Thanks for watching and please subscribe if you haven't already.
What rifle and cartridge was used to shot it?
11one22dontcry I was a custome 7mm designed by Denny Austed.
Right on just like they do at the elk ranches here in Southern Id.
I love how people seek these videos out to negatively comment on them. Like shooting themselves in the foot just so they can say how bad it hurts
beautiful monster bull.
The whole world knows that this is a farm raised bull! everyone knows this bull was "planted" and then "hunted".... right...hunted...
This bull was not raised 9n a farm until he scored 397
@Chad Gochis sheds prove he wasnt farm raised??🤔
@Chad Gochis pretty easy to find sheds on a farm. just saying
Wow nice bull! I wish I had money to hire a group of guys to find me a big bull like that so when it's time to kill it I just go where they tell me and shoot it with a rifle from hundreds of yards away. But then that wouldn't be hunting. I'll stick to doing things myself the hard way and with a bow! A record don't mean anything unless you put the work in yourself. But impressive bull! Good job mossback for finding that bull for him.
Andrew C record books don't really care about you're feelings.
I'm not asking for a record book to care you idiot I'm wishing for money so I can pay shits like you to do all the work for me! So don't get hurt I speak the truth!
Andrew C I am a guide, and I don't guide pussyfoots. I guide men.
Oh I'm sure you call them whatever they want when they are paying high dollar for a hunt.
lol these guys are legal poachers
"All that hard work"
Spent time in fishlake national Forrest on a fire in Utah and seen lots of elk and never knew this bull was killed there and had a idea it was cause it's unique terrain features were recognized
Charles Hopkins Are you serious? That's where I hunt! They've got some big bull elk there!
Yes was spiked out a week and a half at 9,300ft on the Briggs fire near beaver
Farmed elk!
funny story: I grew up hunting the public land around where this bull was killed and on a couple occasions family and friends had him within 150 yards with a limited entry archery tag before he moved over to the Monroe. What a shame we couldn't of taken him and the purchaser of the Governor's Tag gets to have it handed to him by three guides. Oh and also it doesn't show it, but he missed TWICE within 200 yards with a rifle. "Anyways I want to thank the guides once again for 12 days "WE" hunted" but he actually only went out in the field three times after the bull was already located by the guides. Absolute bullshit
This bull was planted there. This bull did not natrually grow up there. Its a pen bull. So, no. You did not hunt this animal or see this elk growing up.
@@jordanurioste1092 u don't know that... multiple people in the comments have said they new about him before. Its just a bunch of jealous angry people spreading bullshit. Some hunters are just petty jealous bitches. The dude put a shit load of money towards wildlife conservation with buying the tag.
@@jordanurioste1092 just swinging back to this and that’s 100% not true this bull has been followed since he was a two year old. Learn your shit before opening your big mouth.
@@tyrelroberge6874 yes, people are angry that Mossback closes roads off and scared this bull from other hunters in order to get the dude three shots at him. People aren’t jealous though lmao.
@@TheBankersSafe I know the are it was hunted in pssy. Tell your mom to teach you some respect when speaking to your new daddy punk
What's all this mock-heroic music?
Sounds like spiderman movie music....
has anyone found sheds from this guy before?
no
And no similar looking bulls since him...
I wonder what the outfitters had named that bull while they watched him each day for the 6 months leading up to that hunt
probably Mrs. latta
One of my friends has an elk farm that he doesn’t even use to hunt he collects the sheds and sells them he treats the elk like pets he even goes right up to the elk and pets them one day we found a huge at least 430 bull that one guy even offered $40,000 to let him hunt that bull but my friend refused because he became friends with the bull and liked him the bull lived for 14 years ever year getting a little bigger the biggest he ever got was probably 450-460 and even I considered the bull a pet and friend the bull would always let me pet it when the bull died we had a little funeral it felt like losing a family member
I hate it when people who didn't shot it act like they did and then add we into everything.
Awesome bull!
That guide lost his tip, if it were me! Very rude grabbing the bull before the hunter! I played this 3 times at the shot, what happened to the kill shot?
DAN ALLEN I hate when they do that! We don't touch our elk or deer until we've got the death pictures taken, then we can touch it and get the rest of the pictures, then we clean it out! I'd say let him get some pictures of it before anyone touches it!
Rumor is he missed twice inside 300 yards
I would absolutely love to go on an elk hunt, but my back problems prevent me from being able to stalk them.
Amazing what money can do.
NO KILL SHOT. Entire hunt my arse.
Dribble dribble dribble. What a waste of time.
farmed and released couple days before the hunt to ensure the client gets a trophy more money you throw at the guide bigger the bull they get outer the paddock
thats a real nice bull but i saw one actually digger than him in Arizona hope to get him this year
Nobody has any sheds from this bull, so Ante up and show them! The only validly claimed "observation" was from the previous year by a Mossback affiliate. B & C used a retired Ut Wildlife employee to verify current Ut Wildlife findings. The report contradicts itself and verifies the animal was continuously camped in July, August and then September.
The video you made is awsome
What do you think Mossback is all about raising animals and selling them for as much as possible
btw did you ever hunt so long for an animal???
That's great to hear. Don't let the rich kids control the playground
nice hunt
What a magical creature
The shots at the start were disturbing because it looked like that bull was baited over and over!
Why is this such a heated debate? I'm just getting into hunting and I'm confused as to why so many people are critical to how this was done...? Send me a message if you feel like replying.
Regardless of what anybody said I would stick him!!
It does not matter if it is one acre or one million acres, if all the laws and regulations for fair chase are followed it is legitimate. I killed a Pop & Young whitetail on my 40 this year. It was a buck I had never viewed before. Does that eliminate it from being an archery book buck because it was on my 40? NO!
Was he fenced in? Cause theres no way you can say its fair chase if he got no were to run
mike hawk absolutely. a "hunt" is an even contest of your SKILL as a predator against it's skill as prey. if it annot escape? that isn't hunting. that is baiting. & baiters should be burned at the stake as the miscreant abominations & parasites that they are.
pfalky2k i agree
mike hawk
No he wasn't fenced in. He would disappear for months. There is a lot of dense forest up on the monroe and I wouldn't surprised if there are larger up there.
Amazing how his little head can hold those huge antlers
Muscles & tendons... attached to the skull.
HUGE
I hate the fact that the guide ran too the bull first. Sure, the "hunter"paid a shit ton of $$ for that bul but he should be the first to grab them antlers. Also, I dont see the sport in paying a guide service to find my elk, have crews camp out on it for weeks on end (too follow and make sure know one else kills it) then take me exactly where it is and tell me when to pull the trigger. Im pretty suspect that the "hunter" actually killed it. They film this thing for weeks, getting hours of footage and no kill shot? But they got the after shot reaction......seems pretty shady to me! I wonder what the guide would have done if there was another guy hunting it and they crossed paths.......maybe kick down a portion of the $30-$50k that guy paid them to camp on it? Id have shot it from underneath their noses.
They would’ve been mad trying to keep track of me in the dark lol
It’s because Doyle is a complete asshat
No shot on film???
Now where's the fence?