Will the second time be the charm? Oliver 1650 gets a clutch again.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ย. 2021
- We've got the clutch back, so we get Alan's 1650 put back together before harvest gets rolling.
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1650 is one of the best tractors Oliver ever made.
Bought mine new in 1966, still going.
My neighbor bought a 2-70 new in late '78 with a loader. Tractor has a lot of hrs on it, when he put a clutch in the last time, he had the engine rebuilt. According to the shop it didn't need much, being the main workhorse it got it anyway. Maybe the engine will be good for another 40 years.
When I restored my 1650, it had a bent clutch finger and a bent connecting rod. Other than a little vibration and the occasional fouled spark plug, you'd never know it had anything wrong. Great tractors that will be earning their keep for years to come.
That Oliver Guy - Chris Losey the only things I’ve done to mine was a head gasket that blew out using too much ether and redone the injection pump, injectors probably need done some time too.
@@hughperkins707 Is yours a Cockshutt?
I get to split a MX270 transmission again today…..woke up in the middle of the night and realized I forgot an o ring. Just a single roll apart and back because not everything was installed. Thanks for sharing, repairing and rework happens !
At least you remembered before it hit the field! That has been an advantage of making these videos. I can watch the footage again and see if I actually left something out when I wake up in the middle of the night.
Well done!!!
It's a pleasure to watch you work. You make it look so easy. Keep the video's coming. Hope your harvest goes smoothly.
Thanks!
It’s a game changer having a shop like your Chris.
Having heat, a concrete floor, and a bathroom sure make a difference on how much work I can get done.
I liked the Alvin & the chipmunks impact wrench.
Thanks! Next time I'll have to try it in a deeper voice.
Enjoyed the video Chris. I like the bluegrass song Rueben that you play when putting the engine back in. Some trivia. Earl Scruggs famous banjo player grew up about 30 miles south of me. He learned the "three finger" picking style known world wide as Scruggs style picking while messing with his banjo at a young age in the living room of his parents house playing this song. He said I noticed I had this "roll" going with my fingers. It just came to me. The rest is history!
Interesting. TH-cam has that song in their library of royalty free music under "Reuben's Train" by Nat Keefe and the Bow Ties. I'm guess Scruggs was their inspiration. I like its tempo for the time lapse portions of videos.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris It works well!
My dad put a Heavy duty clutch in our 66, because it was our loader tractor. As a kid, it was all we could do to depress the clutch. One day we were making fence, and I was going up a hill, and dad yelled something, so I stopped to hear better. He was yelling to not stop the tractor on that hill!.
Stopping might have been easier than getting going again! That reminds me of when my dad got me going on cultivating for the first time. He said that when I get to the big hill, don't put it in under drive. I didn't hear the don't and found out the why by the bottom of the hill!
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Been and done that. reminds me of my brother, when he was young, and first operating a tractor. He only knew, that pushing in the clutch stops the tractor. Unfortunately, he was pulling a hay wagon out in our hilly pasture. Dad and I were tossing hay to the cattle. The tractor started going too fast down the hill, so he pushed in the clutch. It went faster, so he dumped the clutch. Rinse and repeat. Dad was scrambling to get to the tractor, while I was just trying to stay on the wagon. Humorous now, but dangerous then.
Wow, thanks for the video.
Another great video love watching them and I watch all of your videos
Thank you very much!
Good job! I ran some when I was younger, but never worked on any like that. I knew a farmer who had a Row Crop 66, a newer model bought around mid to late 50's and a Hart Par, that we used on a gravel bed wagon in the Spring to rework the lane going to the back of the farm. Hard work yeah, but good times.
Isn't amazing how we can look back and fondly remember working so hard? We worked together and had a sense of accomplishment at the end of the day.
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All we knew was that there was work to be done... and us to do it. I've had too many jobs in my life "I'm 77" where I would look back at the end the day and wonder what I did. I never felt that way when I worked on a farm. My last farm was from '82 to '87. I worked in a factory on 2nd shift in Hamilton, Ohio and on a farm days in Andersonville, Indiana. I would get about 4 to 5 hours of sleep and head to the farm. I told the man I didn't want his money. I just wanted to do what I could to help. I loved it.
Interesting thought I heard…… in 40 years there will likely be more 80 year old tractors still running than 40 year old tractors.
I wouldn't be surprised.
I use a couple of long bolts with the heads cut of threaded into the crankshaft to put the flywheel back on. After it is slide in place install the pto drive hub and a couple of the original short ones and remove the long bolts. A flywheel is heavy and clumsy.
I was just saying I need to make a set when I was putting a flywheel on a couple weeks ago.
Great video bro. Safe travels
Thanks, Ken!
Was wondering when Alan will get to reviewing my assistant to the assistant application? I push a mean broom and have MSU work apparel.
LOL. I might have to have him address that in a future video.
Don't know how you work with gloves. I can to do a 1/2" bolts and nuts with gloves on but not much anything smaller. I have a neighbor that could put the cotter pins in with gloves on the that roller chain.
"Love it when a plan comes together!" Great vid Chris.
You get used to it, but there's some things I have to take them off for. I do get a lot fewer scrapes and cuts, so it's worth it to me. I should have been wearing them when I was sawing a battery cable clamp bolt last week. I got through the bolt and got a couple of good draws across my index finger before I stopped.
Nice video Chris I've been working on 1650 gas been cutting hay and baleing with it miami County Ohio does my gas have the same clutch set up what a heavy fly wheel that makes a big difference we tried different flywheels on our race car great job brother be safe and God bless 🙌🙏
Yes, gas and diesel ran the same clutch, but some had a fiber disc and some had a button type like in this video.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris thanks Chris I'm still working on a late model 2255 4wd it's a sweet one my friends here miami County Ohio big farmers I bought it off them was like new when they got it after its final duties on a big spreader hauling hog manure it was pretty ruff I was the oliver dude on here till the biden bunch took me out thanks again Pat I put all new rubber on 1650 new distributor and stock coil got tilt fixed it was all frozen up in the pin and broken off runs perfectly I love since I use to be into Oliver's for years had a 2150 4wd back in the day sold my 1655 4wd to boys in Connecticut 20k couple years ago miss it bought it off tractor doctor in 2015 take care u the man
I think I know who bought your 1655 fwa. Was it a nice original, but wheels were a little rusty?
@@ThatOliverGuyChris it was Chris original rubber was nice it was sold new at a little dealer in I think Eagleville wis. Dashels garage sold it new that one 1755 is 4wd and 3 point that would be a sweet one thanks brother 🙏👍
Tractor doctor has the 1755 4wd one with 3point 1 without
Did you clean the flywheel before you put the clutch in?
I always use brake cleaner with a clean towel to make sure it is spotless before the clutch goes in.
Don’t want any contaminates on the flywheel.
The flywheel got surfaced and was cleaned.
It has been an interesting couple of weeks. I think I hurt my 1850. We were on the last bag for third cutting knowing we will have some leftover space so we decided to start corn silage right away. The corn fields were wet so took the Deutz 100 06 off the bagger since it is MFWD to pull wagons through mud and stuck the 1850 on the bagger. Well apparently my Deutz has more pto power because that 1850 was having a hard time it was at night and we were almost done for the day so I let her snort. Saw flame out the muffler more than once and the next day tried to start it and cranked for one second and it stopped turning. Pulled it off the bagger and swapped in my Massey Ferguson 1100. After my brother got it to start normal once but bad after that. On a side note for having "the same engine" the 1100 massey and the 1850 don't feel the same much at all.
Will you fix the 1850?
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Don't know yet about halfway through corn silage my main chopper broke and to fix it we bought whole other chopper to take two parts off of it to fix mine. We also have a lot of equipment and bought a 1950 early this year so my brother doesn't see a need to keep it. Me on the other hand wants to keep the 1850 to use because the 1950 is a little too nice condition to use for some tasks on a dairy farm like right now we are hauling manure on to the chopped corn fields before tilling and planting winter wheat.
Geeze Chris, I always hate doing it twice!! But 💩 happens..
Yep, the second time ain't as fun, but it usually goes quicker because it's fresh in your head and none of the bolts have gotten rusty yet.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris true..lol
You should have used a rattle can to paint the places that were not able to be painted with the engine out. Another thing that bothers me is that the base weight is painted the same color as the tractor. They should be clover white. Ophelia needs another vertical weight and at least 2 flat plate weights. That would make her look seriously work-ready. Torque values???? I asked an old German VW expert how tight VW bolts needed to be. His answer in his German accent was "Tighten them till they strip and then back off 1/2 turn." Great video.
I'm kinda surprised Alan didn't do some touch up while we had it out. He did a bunch last year when it was out, so other than some scratches from pulling the engine, it wasn't too bad.
I've seen the base weight both colors in Oliver literature. It was green for the 00 series, and I've even seen pictures of early slab weights that were green. That looked weird to me. The base weight was factory green on my 1650, so I repainted it that way. From what I can tell, it looks like they switched them to white around 1968. I have seen the stack weights both colors as well. I tell people to pick whichever one they like best, but I like a green base weight and the rest of them white.
I want to put a couple flat weights on Ophelia and the 1650, I just need to get them painted up. Abby drives her to school this Friday, I doubt I'll get any painted with harvest starting up any day now.
May I suggest some content. Oliver top links over the years. Weights and weight brackets. For those of us that don't have your knowledge. Would be useful to those of us scrounging parts at auctions and such. Thanks
Great suggestion! Some of that stuff I take for granted because it has always been around. I'll add it to my list.
Agreed
Chris could one of these motors be turbocharged as in an add on/ conversion?
They can, and I've seen it done. I think it's pushing the engine design to put too much boost to it, but I've got the option of using a bigger tractor so it's easy for me to say.
Coffee, Chris, and Church my Sunday morning. 1555 twice I had to do what you two are doing. Both times lost fingers on clutch. What was the name of the place that did your rebuild? You do great videos thanks
Clutch Dynamics in Lansing. The guy does great work, is reasonable, but is not always the fastest.
I might be getting too OCD. I feel like we need to add an H to coffee. Choffee, Chris and Church. Don't all those CHs look good together? LOL
I have a 2150 that I ve owned twice once from 71 to 73 and I didn't trust it and traded it off and now since 2016. Its just a pet now. I thought it was fine but a friend has one and says mine has a whine in engine up toward the front, possibly by injector pump area. Back the first time I owned it I understood there was an update for oil pump drive that this one never had, something about a snap ring. Any idea what might be going on it has good oil pressure. If you re ever in central Ohio I d pay you to look at it and get your expert opinion.
There was an update to the lube pump, they changed the way it was machined to prevent hydraulic lock at the pump gears. They also put a heavier bearing in the pump drive idler gear. I don't know if those changes would be making your noise, but the idler gear is a definite possibility. You have to drop the oil pan and pull the oil pump and the front main to swap it out.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Thanks for your reply!
Just a side note if ya don't do popawheelis the clutch will last longer 😁
Lol. That's how Alan reaches the roof to clean the gutters from his loader bucket. It has to be done.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Ha Ha Ha what a great idea
So just something I've been wondering if you're able to get around to it. Do you think you could go through the Oliver combines and explain which ones had Minneapolis Moline and Cockshutt counterparts, as well as what those MM and Cockshutt model numbers were. Thanks for what you do, there's never a video of yours I don't enjoy watching.
I'll add it to the list. I'll also recommend Ross the Oliver Man's youtube channel. He hasn't been at it long, but he's putting out some great videos with the history of things like you mention. He hasn't done a combine video yet, but maybe he'll get to it before I do. You can check him out at th-cam.com/channels/zTfH9TbEBpJwTBI2EreKTQ.html
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Yessir! I've been watching his videos since I seen him post about his TH-cam channel on the Oliver and White Facebook page. Thanks!
@@NEAFarmKid4010 Awesome! Now the race is one to see who gets it done first!
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Yeah lol.
Nice job Chris and Alan! Any more shop projects before harvest starts? I went to move my 1800 the other day and the clutch wouldn’t release. I fiddled with it for a couple minutes and eventually it did but now it doesn’t feel right, the pedal got hard to push. I’m wondering if there is rodent nest in there now.
I think I'm going to be able to start soybeans this week, so no more projects right away. Could be a nest, could be a piece of spring, rivet, or something else broke off the disc or pressure plate and got wedged in the mechanism. If the effort stayed the same, I'd say the clutch disc had stuck to the flywheel, but it doesn't sound that way.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris yeah I figured it just got stuck to the flywheel from sitting because I haven’t moved it since mid summer. After it freed up and I drove it for a minute I noticed the pedal was harder to push so yeah I’m worried about the same thing. That’s OK, I know a good place to watch videos when i tear into it lol
Herman stuck this summer. I had power washed him and then parked him. Then I thought I'd put him on the auger and the clutch won't release. That was the same day the combine window got smashed. The swear jar got some donations that day.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I just came inside for lunch. After I left that comment this morning I went out, I said I better fire up that tractor and run it around a little bit. Like a dummy I parked it on a slight incline and left it in third gear. Now the clutch is really stuck, it’s in third gear, I can’t get it out and I don’t wanna force the shifter or try and crank it too much in gear. I’m going to have to get another tractor to pull on it a little bit to get it out of gear. From there looks like it’s going to the shop for some clutch work lol
Bummer. But keep us updated
I have a 1600 gas and I have a leak in the creeper drive where do you get parts
Is that the creeper you have to stop to switch speeds? That's a pretty simple unit that uses gaskets and common lip seals. An AGCO dealer should be able to get you everything you need.
Thank you
Uhm, what happened to the first clutch?
One of the studs that the fingers pivot on broke. Here's the video that tells more. th-cam.com/video/6vI3ynSbdpY/w-d-xo.html