Prokofiev is a phenomenal example of someone who was faced with the monster of the piano, and not only tamed its known technical behemoths, but made it his trusted partner through all of his sonic fuckery, while also creating entirely original technical fuckery in the process.
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No.1 is such an exquisite work. One of his finest short form piano composition imo. Dramatic toccata enery but with some light almost touching moments (the tranquillo theme).
There's something hair-raisingly alive about Prokofiev's choice of rhythms, harmonies and melodic lines. Even the very loud passages get away with it as sounding full of excitement and organic content rather than mere loud notes thrown together.
This etude is really difficult to play for real, the bassline jumps over 2octaves in 8th notes and just memorizing your right hand fingers movement is a lot of work but daaamn this piece is just wonderful
What a great tableau, no. 2 is still my personal favorite. How he weaves that secondary melody in so simply is gorgeous but of course like all of Prokofiev's piano music, crazy difficult to actually play.
Finally sat and properly listened to no.2 .... whoa ya. The inner melody comes in, then the movement picks up, and it's like "what else can he add in?", suddenly grace notes overtop all of it. So good!
im learning this right now and while it's technically not all that hard, it's insanely difficult to wrap your head around the polyrhythms and make them accurate yet sound natural and musically good
I don't hear anyone talking about how fantastically eerie and sporadic the fourth etude is. That's what makes it my favorite of the etudes. It just has a whole entire different tone about it. Relating to the caption, I feel as though the comment "talented but immature" rings quite true for this one. Its just a crazy movement, and its all over the place, but that's what makes it a mood.
The best prokofiev's D minor etude i have ever listened to in my life. What an amount of ideas and colors, such control of the sound is astounding... Marvelous!
Le Jaivan disagree. There used to be an audio (with score) on TH-cam of Freddy Kempf playing it. It’s vastly superior to this performer. His left hand octaves are transcendent.
@@ytyt3922 in fact, i first ever heard this piece in that Freddy Kempf's recording. That was my reference. I understand you. But i do not compare the performers, but my experiences, and with this actual recording I should state what i stated.
Love Frederick's interpretation of Prokofiev, I bought the staggering box set of the complete works for solo piano by Prokofiev, which the 4 études are taken from. I bought them the day before I went on the two week holiday to Spain. It was quite an outlay for the box set but I thought fuck it, I'm mad for it. Went away and completely emersed myself with my magnificent purchase and was so inspired that I managed to aquire the études from Moscow conservatory press and studied them to death till I could play them well. Love the video thank you X
Never heard these before. Superb - and a great performance. Shame they are not more widely played - but then, I guess it's not difficult to see why they aren't :)
@@thenameisgsarci carefully but well worded :-) ... Chopin would've been down with prokofiev's music... and probably thrilled to not be alone on the planet, let alone meet even crazier composers than himself... There is a reason why I love Chopin, Rachmanninow and prokofiev the most... The letter just build upon those parts of chopin I enjoyed the most and went on to take it to full metal jacket... I'm not even sure, what that phrase is supposed to mean xD
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Is the five-note RH chord F-A-C-E-G (at about 1:43, last bar in top staff) actually playable? I can't hear if the performer actually plays all five notes.
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A vorcha would yell "BIG MACHIIIINES!!" . Prokofiev was fascinated by them. Those etudes are hard , but not as hard as Bartok's 3 etudes op 18. I'm having fight sessions with both . Chiu masters the 4 .
It's near impossible to play for me that part. I can play it fine correctly at the right tempo when I practise but when you add performance anxiety - not siezing or making a catastrophic error is damn difficult . This is one of those pieces I can play from beginning to end but would be to scared to perform. Hopefully if I relearn it in a few years it won't pose as much of a challenge.
Does anyone here know if Prokofiev's performing repertoire included the Goldberg Variations? Any thoughts on this? Leads on where to look? Suggestions?
Shows how misguided those early judgements are. In these etudes we can already detect very clearly the same memes and Proko-styles of his later (more mature?) works.
@@rynabuns A composer, presumably, knows best how the piece should go. To indicate his (Prokofiev's) ideas, he makes marks in the score, staccato, legato, loud, soft, faster, slower, etc. Performers are supposed to be faithful, to a degree, to the composer's intentions, as indicated in the score. If a performer, wants to diverge from the score, he or she must make a case for it. For example in "Pictures at an Exhibition," in the section, "Cattle," Richter started pianissimo, whereas the original score said fortissimo. Since then, pianists can choose whether to follow Richter or Mussorgsky. There is general agreement that Richter made his case. To ignore the composer's markings wholesale is to court anarchy, as any study of the history of performance shows. If a pianist ignores a staccato, why not ignore a note? If you value the performer's interpretation over the composer's intention, the performer can do anything; no holds barred. The problem in interpretative music is to follow the composers' markings with enough individuality to bring a personal response to the score. Plenty of people can do this. While it might be true that many interpretations sound somewhat alike, there are enough players out there who make the music their own, that this system of composer's markings continues to be the best system for transmitting ideas about music.
@Marquis De Sade We're talking about Prokofiev, not Bach and Beethoven. One of the etudes was well marked vis-a-vis score direction, one wasn't (the slow one). At issue here is the fact that the performance was awash in pedal. This strikes me as a contemporary problem in piano, not much else. Older pianists, including Prokofiev, judging from his recordings, used much less pedal. As it is I don't know what edition of the piece was used for the video. The edition matters, as you well know.
In this recording Chiu obeys all explicitly marked pedal markings. Where there are no pedal markings, that almost never means no pedal. I’m not sure if you’re a pianist, but we understand that pedal is often expected in passages where there aren’t markings. As long as it doesn’t take away from what’s written on the score. Pedaling should not be the same from pianist to pianist either, really. Except for something like Chopin, where we can all agree where the explicit pedal markings are.
@Jordan Schlansky Chiu's recording was so amazing to me that I instantly looked up for the etudes and started few minutes after to work. I mean it depends on taste. It is though unfair to call someone's intepreting a child play just because he tooks it a little slower or maybe less ferocious. Kissin plays like Kissin and no one can replicate him, also Chiu plays like Chiu and no one (Kissin included) can replicate him.
0:15 Etude No.1 in D minor
2:40 Etude No.2 in E minor
5:37 Etude No.3 in C minor
9:30 Etude No.4 in C minor
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@@paumasabad1449 No. 2 is at 2:25
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Prokofiev is a phenomenal example of someone who was faced with the monster of the piano, and not only tamed its known technical behemoths, but made it his trusted partner through all of his sonic fuckery, while also creating entirely original technical fuckery in the process.
Prokofiev wrote some beautifully monstrous music. Truly a master composer.
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Thank you
yes definitely especially when you listen to his concerto no.2
No.1 is such an exquisite work. One of his finest short form piano composition imo. Dramatic toccata enery but with some light almost touching moments (the tranquillo theme).
I love it. The harmony in the "quiet" theme reminds me of Scriabin in his middle period (Sonata no.4 and other works around op 20 to 40)
There's something hair-raisingly alive about Prokofiev's choice of rhythms, harmonies and melodic lines. Even the very loud passages get away with it as sounding full of excitement and organic content rather than mere loud notes thrown together.
I'm obsessed with nr.2.
It's so beautiful omg..
1:57, 8:44
0:15 Whilst I love the Dm etude, I've never felt brave enough to attempt it. It's like the dance of the Devil...
You're everywhere 😂
Like your conjuring up the devil
Don’t be a wuss. Just practice the first 3 measures
Bryo Jafa lol
This etude is really difficult to play for real, the bassline jumps over 2octaves in 8th notes and just memorizing your right hand fingers movement is a lot of work but daaamn this piece is just wonderful
What a great tableau, no. 2 is still my personal favorite. How he weaves that secondary melody in so simply is gorgeous but of course like all of Prokofiev's piano music, crazy difficult to actually play.
it is not difficult if you learn the technique to play it, as is the point of a etudes. It is otherwise very pianistic writing
Finally sat and properly listened to no.2 .... whoa ya. The inner melody comes in, then the movement picks up, and it's like "what else can he add in?", suddenly grace notes overtop all of it. So good!
@@tobiedavis8841 chill logic man
I like no 1 or no 4
im learning this right now and while it's technically not all that hard, it's insanely difficult to wrap your head around the polyrhythms and make them accurate yet sound natural and musically good
I don't hear anyone talking about how fantastically eerie and sporadic the fourth etude is. That's what makes it my favorite of the etudes. It just has a whole entire different tone about it. Relating to the caption, I feel as though the comment "talented but immature" rings quite true for this one. Its just a crazy movement, and its all over the place, but that's what makes it a mood.
Yea
The best prokofiev's D minor etude i have ever listened to in my life.
What an amount of ideas and colors, such control of the sound is astounding...
Marvelous!
Le Jaivan disagree. There used to be an audio (with score) on TH-cam of Freddy Kempf playing it. It’s vastly superior to this performer. His left hand octaves are transcendent.
@@ytyt3922 in fact, i first ever heard this piece in that Freddy Kempf's recording. That was my reference. I understand you. But i do not compare the performers, but my experiences, and with this actual recording I should state what i stated.
Like d minor etude by Rachmaninov from op 33
Frederick Chiu is a fantastic pianist.
Andrei Andreev's version from 2016 is awfully good too.
10:32 how on earth does he get the sound of a heavy pizzicato violin chord out of this piano. Twice! Incredible playing throughout.
The third one is just badass sick
i love chiu
bravissimo...
Chiu is wonderful Prokofiev player
agree
Ja
This has to be one of the best recordings of these masterpieces! Keep up the good work!
Simply piano after a week: *able to play etude no. 3*
(5:37 - 5:44)
Mesmerising, genius music, crazy difficult to play.
7:34 7:46
For me no. 1 has this very ominous apocalyptic atmosphere to it like the world is going to be over in those 2 minutes
2:17 prokofiev second piano concerto after cadenza in first movement
D Minor one is just insane. Currently learning it and it's mjndbreaking 😅
Try n.3
They're not too bad
Bro the 3rds section on the 2nd-3rd page is fucking impossible to consistently play correctly. The rest is pretty manageable.
@@slowloris4346i found a finfering that makes it easier in a forum
Second etude has been one of my favorite not so well known pieces by prokofiev. I attempted it, but it felt like I needed three hands to pull it off.
If so, then the third etude must be quite a terror for you, that one's got three staffs on it. XD
Played the 3rd as a part of my program this year, was a hell of a ride to pull off
Can you tell me your fingering?
gonna take this one for my autumn technique exam, i played the 4th before and it was frickin amazing
1. 0:16
2. 2:40
3. 5:37
4. 9:31
I haven't listened to these in a long time. I forgot just how amazing they are.
Fast parts in third etude remainds me Prokofiev's Toccata
Same lol
Love Frederick's interpretation of Prokofiev, I bought the staggering box set of the complete works for solo piano by Prokofiev, which the 4 études are taken from. I bought them the day before I went on the two week holiday to Spain. It was quite an outlay for the box set but I thought fuck it, I'm mad for it. Went away and completely emersed myself with my magnificent purchase and was so inspired that I managed to aquire the études from Moscow conservatory press and studied them to death till I could play them well. Love the video thank you X
Never heard these before. Superb - and a great performance. Shame they are not more widely played - but then, I guess it's not difficult to see why they aren't :)
Actually to 4th isn't difficult comparing to the 3rd one for example
I'm a pianist and it hurts my hands just looking at the sheet music.
Sami Shah
I literally made the same comment just moments ago 🤣
100%, this looks so difficult.. 😅
Relax your wrists and practice slow and without any kind of tension.
@@gabindupuy6036 I know.
The first isn't that difficult...
Complimenti!!
Excellent.
Thanks for uploading!
쉬시킨 박력보고 풀버전 들으러 왔다.......
Cadence Fantastique by his teacher Nikolaï Tcherepnin
this and freddy kempfts performance is amazing
0:11 thought it was going to read Chopin :(
Me too
If so, his contemporaries must be in for a shock of their lifetime.
@@thenameisgsarci carefully but well worded :-) ... Chopin would've been down with prokofiev's music... and probably thrilled to not be alone on the planet, let alone meet even crazier composers than himself... There is a reason why I love Chopin, Rachmanninow and prokofiev the most... The letter just build upon those parts of chopin I enjoyed the most and went on to take it to full metal jacket... I'm not even sure, what that phrase is supposed to mean xD
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I love the new style intro
красивые этюды. 2 и 3 просто космос
Is the five-note RH chord F-A-C-E-G (at about 1:43, last bar in top staff) actually playable? I can't hear if the performer actually plays all five notes.
Etude 3 sounds like a test run to his Toccata in Dm
totally awesome!
The first one is amazing
no.3 reminds me of his toccata
Fantastic etudes!
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The very first notes of second etude reminds me of Chopins Waltz in Ab major op. 64 no. 3
Etude 3 is so much like op 11
A vorcha would yell "BIG MACHIIIINES!!" . Prokofiev was fascinated by them. Those etudes are hard , but not as hard as Bartok's 3 etudes op 18. I'm having fight sessions with both . Chiu masters the 4 .
The e minor etude resembles a drunk Skriabin with a romantic contrapunctal Bach.
Its actually called contrapuntal I believe
Chi Shiki my bad. You're right
You mean early Scriabin right?
Dam DAAAAAM
Late Liszt and Mid-period Scriabin would have been proud of No.1. Well actually maybe Scriabin was aware of it since he was still alive.
I love Frederick Chiupon.
Who f* is Chiupon
Accipiter Ignitus *whoosh*
@@ytyt3922 it's not a joke and no one is misunderstanding him
I love lamp
The beginning of the first one has some Philip Glass flavours.
Does anybody else hear Take the A Train in the first etude?
lol
I hear this etude in Take the A Train
No.2 ❤️
Well hell, this looks easy enough to play!
To play on TH-cam!
0:46 tho
It's near impossible to play for me that part. I can play it fine correctly at the right tempo when I practise but when you add performance anxiety - not siezing or making a catastrophic error is damn difficult . This is one of those pieces I can play from beginning to end but would be to scared to perform. Hopefully if I relearn it in a few years it won't pose as much of a challenge.
I love Frederic Chiu.
The 3rd etude is so hard...
Good upload.
It's like Vincent writing down an expression for a painting.
It actually sounded like some Prokofiev already ;)
Now I know where Basil Poledouris got inspiration...
Which of his soundtracks are you thinking of?
круто.
if and whenever I learn this piece, I will play it in the manner of Evgeny Kissin. His version hits hard!!
7:46 It says “Tempo I”, why is it still so fast?
Also 8:04 accelerando assai al Presto, it's already presto how can he accelerate?
Accipiter Ignitus you can always accelerate with proky boi
Why was this video removed from youtube? I missed it
Me too
Etude 1 inspirated by mephisto waltz n.4 liszt
Yes, the key changes
my god that d minor
❤
You should play Chopin etudes to improve ur technique. You should play Liszt etudes to play Liszt etudes. You should play Prokofiev etudes.
It made me crazy
The first etude (maybe 4th) is hitherto the only piece I could find myself enjoy listening to
Op 2.!
The beginning of the first etude reminds me Philip Glass..
Does anyone here know if Prokofiev's performing repertoire included the Goldberg Variations? Any thoughts on this? Leads on where to look? Suggestions?
Why the question, if I may ask?
@@daph0307 I have seen passages in SP's piano repertoire that resemble the GVs.
@@timothyj.bowlby5524 including here?
@@timothyj.bowlby5524 which?
@@timothyj.bowlby5524 hm. Which?
"Andante Semplice" ahah yes... until Prokofiev got wild.
No.3 is fucking horribly impossible...
Shows how misguided those early judgements are. In these etudes we can already detect very clearly the same memes and Proko-styles of his later (more mature?) works.
I think technically this is not as difficult as it sounds
More difficult
I started at the first years ago. The first few lines makes you think you'll get it. I never did. One of the scores I gave up.
genius..
The third one just reminds me of Shostakovich
That's because Shostakovich was inspired by Prokofiev.
Hell yeah
서울대 때문에 떡상 한 영상
giggi d alessio
처음부터 치다가 중간에 손가락에 쥐나는거 아녀?
이런건 어찌 연습을 해야하는겨
😆
17 surdos ou analfabetos em música deram deslike!
No
No wonder it's not considered a central part of the composer's repertoire
I mean, these are early etudes, ofc these wouldn't make to Prok's staple repertoire
"talented but immature", what a joke!
Sparse pedal markings in the music. Much pedal in the performances.
God forbid artists add their own interpretations lest every performance sound different
This shows how much you don’t know about piano. Do you even play piano?
@@rynabuns A composer, presumably, knows best how the piece should go. To indicate his (Prokofiev's) ideas, he makes marks in the score, staccato, legato, loud, soft, faster, slower, etc. Performers are supposed to be faithful, to a degree, to the composer's intentions, as indicated in the score. If a performer, wants to diverge from the score, he or she must make a case for it. For example in "Pictures at an Exhibition," in the section, "Cattle," Richter started pianissimo, whereas the original score said fortissimo. Since then, pianists can choose whether to follow Richter or Mussorgsky. There is general agreement that Richter made his case. To ignore the composer's markings wholesale is to court anarchy, as any study of the history of performance shows. If a pianist ignores a staccato, why not ignore a note? If you value the performer's interpretation over the composer's intention, the performer can do anything; no holds barred. The problem in interpretative music is to follow the composers' markings with enough individuality to bring a personal response to the score. Plenty of people can do this. While it might be true that many interpretations sound somewhat alike, there are enough players out there who make the music their own, that this system of composer's markings continues to be the best system for transmitting ideas about music.
@Marquis De Sade We're talking about Prokofiev, not Bach and Beethoven. One of the etudes was well marked vis-a-vis score direction, one wasn't (the slow one). At issue here is the fact that the performance was awash in pedal. This strikes me as a contemporary problem in piano, not much else. Older pianists, including Prokofiev, judging from his recordings, used much less pedal. As it is I don't know what edition of the piece was used for the video. The edition matters, as you well know.
In this recording Chiu obeys all explicitly marked pedal markings. Where there are no pedal markings, that almost never means no pedal. I’m not sure if you’re a pianist, but we understand that pedal is often expected in passages where there aren’t markings. As long as it doesn’t take away from what’s written on the score. Pedaling should not be the same from pianist to pianist either, really. Except for something like Chopin, where we can all agree where the explicit pedal markings are.
This is child play compared to kissins performance of the thirds ..
you mean the third etude?
though Kissin is amazing, the Chiu's interpretation is a little more expresive. It is not as fast as Kissin's, but speed is not everything
@Jordan Schlansky Chiu's recording was so amazing to me that I instantly looked up for the etudes and started few minutes after to work. I mean it depends on taste. It is though unfair to call someone's intepreting a child play just because he tooks it a little slower or maybe less ferocious. Kissin plays like Kissin and no one can replicate him, also Chiu plays like Chiu and no one (Kissin included) can replicate him.
hey! what kind of intro writing was that eh?! that was awful!!! it's like when typing for an intro to a murdering documentary.
I dunno, unless you got other ideas, I'm sticking to what it is now. XD
Beware, detective!
It's the murdering documentary...
@@thenameisgsarci - I think the intro titles are perfectly fine. Please keep it like that.