Ancient Roman Secret Services: 007 of Rome

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  • @Mrlighthouse1000
    @Mrlighthouse1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    "Do whatever Caesar tells you to do. And whenever the opportunity presents, strike at the profligates. Pile body upon body."
    -Vulpes Inculta

    • @Saturn369-i1b
      @Saturn369-i1b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Ave, true to Caesar

    • @altaycan389
      @altaycan389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Ave, true to Caesar.

    • @TheMarcone1985
      @TheMarcone1985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The Hegellian Legion

    • @Saturn369-i1b
      @Saturn369-i1b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@TheMarcone1985 Hegelian Amicvs society*

    • @hang_kentang6709
      @hang_kentang6709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i've been looking for this.

  • @chrisjones8968
    @chrisjones8968 3 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    "I'll have a Posca, shaken not stirred.."

    • @catalinhuzumstreza1751
      @catalinhuzumstreza1751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Bonnus. Janus Bonnus.

    • @Ezyasnos
      @Ezyasnos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@catalinhuzumstreza1751 DUPLEX NVLLA VII

  • @mikhailvasiliev6275
    @mikhailvasiliev6275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    Really glad for this. People tend to treat espionage like it's some modern invention.

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      It definitely wasn't! :)

    • @Intranetusa
      @Intranetusa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Exactly. Ancient texts such as Wu Qi's Wuzi and Sun Tzu's The Art of War had chapters devoted to espionage.

    • @silverbird425
      @silverbird425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      More important then, actually. It's not like they had drones, or even spy planes or TV. It was difficult to find out what's going on in the next town, let alone another country. And it's always a pain if you find out too late that that lovely looking valley on the map is actually a muddy bog.

    • @davidweihe6052
      @davidweihe6052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is in the Bible, in the initial exploration of the Promised Land, then again after the sojourn in the Desert, so that the Egyptian generation died off, and were replaced by the harder generation raised in that desert.

    • @gazlator
      @gazlator 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent point.

  • @nickdougan394
    @nickdougan394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    When I learned in history about "agents provocateurs" I thought that that the term just went back to the French; I now learn that I should have looked back another 2,000 years to the Provocatores.

    • @gordonbryce
      @gordonbryce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes, a surprisingly long tradition going back to Hannibal. I speculate that the Celts and Germans also operated spies learning from the Roman example. Leaders north of the Alps and east of the Rhine very often knew what was going on in the Roman Senate.

    • @i-never-look-at-replies-lol
      @i-never-look-at-replies-lol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh oops, turns out I've been looking up caterers in Provo, Utah this whole time

    • @1johnnygunn
      @1johnnygunn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps to the dawn of recorded history?

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    The Arcani were fucking nuts too. They slipped behind Hadrian's Wall and inspired the men there to desert in the Great Conspiracy of 367

    • @r0ky_M
      @r0ky_M 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I don't see why the Arcani would need to "slip behind"
      Hadrian's wall , they likely already had official access
      to pass through such in order to report their findings
      to Roman authorities and to operate as Arcani south
      of the wall.(ie: the wall was an official boundary but
      there were still on going problems with native enemy
      elements south of it).. .they also may have been
      non- Roman citizen mercenaries working as Arcani
      and the wall was typically garrisoned by auxilia cohorts
      not Legionaries , so both Arcani and auxilia less loyal
      and much easier to bribe.

    • @Rohv
      @Rohv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I thought this was a Rome Total War reference. Didn't know they were real.

    • @scipiovp921
      @scipiovp921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Rohv Good old times, and really fun unit back in the days xD

    • @angelman906
      @angelman906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@r0ky_M it is an expression for infiltration…

  • @wisdomleader85
    @wisdomleader85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    I've long wondered if a state/aristocrat-sponsored intelligence system existed as well as how effective/influential it was in ancient Rome. Bravo.

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When you have everything and everyone else has nothing, flash a little coin and you will get a ton of eyes and ears.

    • @kitirena_koneko
      @kitirena_koneko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, they did--Nero was said to have had an extensive, and very efficient, spy network IIRC, so it only stands to reason that other Imperatores (emperors) also had them.

  • @LeonidasSparta-Fun-History
    @LeonidasSparta-Fun-History 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    What a great subject! I have to say, the ideas you have for videos are amazing!

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thank you Leonidas

  • @VaruniaKhan
    @VaruniaKhan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    This is such a cool topic, can't wait to get educated!!

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I'm glad you like the topic idea :)

    • @VaruniaKhan
      @VaruniaKhan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@metatronyt Thank you for your response! I just finished the video and it is so interesting all of the ranking and roles and tactics and rules these people had, not to mention how interwoven it all was with all different people of the time! Thanks for the video and I look forward to your next. (=

    • @eduardohernandez9566
      @eduardohernandez9566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@metatronyt Can you provide links to books or articles that talk about this topic. I find it very interesting and want to learn more about it. Please.

  • @kariannecrysler640
    @kariannecrysler640 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so very much for this one. You have answered many of my curiosity’s about this 💯

  • @mnk9073
    @mnk9073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    *stab
    *soft clinking
    Senator: "Wait, you're wearing mail in the Senate?"
    Augustus: "No, after all we're all friends here. Are you poking me with a dagger?"
    Senator: "No... I... I'm... just so err... very happy to see you Imperator..."
    Augustus: "Good."

  • @thepokemontrainer6094
    @thepokemontrainer6094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    So basically it’s like the servants that the king had where spies had to grab as much information about the enemy before starting a battle except the secret service parts.

  • @doctorpicardnononono7469
    @doctorpicardnononono7469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    did it ever happen that two Provocatores ended up arresting each other?

    • @RicardoMoralesMassin
      @RicardoMoralesMassin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Hahahaha the spiderman meme but with togas

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Probably XD
      And after the first incidents of the sort, they were probably issued with code phrases that prevented the mistake or got strict districts to supervise with frequent rotation of agents so that they would not get recognised with time.

    • @blacktigershearthstoneadve6905
      @blacktigershearthstoneadve6905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They certainly knew each other very well, coordinated their operations within their regions of responsibility and reported to the same person. You don't really need many people for this kind of job. So these incidents are highly unlikely.

    • @Regulator2000
      @Regulator2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That reminds me of when a federal agent ends up arresting an undercover federal agent.

  • @dalucke8907
    @dalucke8907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This man is my role model. For me as a teacher to be and as a person. His enthusiasm and knowledge is inspiring.
    Greetings from Germania straight behind the Limes.

  • @Mcdoubles
    @Mcdoubles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Hey man. I know from personal experience that sometimes its the little things we want recognition on. Your thumbnail game is absolutely S tier this last year. This thumbnail is one of the best you have ever done. Nice job!

  • @konsyjes
    @konsyjes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Fascinating! Such a thought-provoking topic. I like how even through the ages the dearth of information on the "ARCANI" is felt by us. When it comes to their description it is almost like they slip past, nothing to see here.

  • @rockytopbritt
    @rockytopbritt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Spies in ancient times is something I've been wanting to know more about. Great video.

  • @KincadeCeltoSlav
    @KincadeCeltoSlav 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gratzi Signeur Metatronos!

  • @antonivsfortis
    @antonivsfortis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    An unkind man would call Caesar's historian a spy xD

    • @jonbaxter2254
      @jonbaxter2254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, but he was a legend anyway.

  • @FELONIOUSBOLUSS
    @FELONIOUSBOLUSS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Damn Glowies have existed for two thousand years!

  • @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
    @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    In Ancient Rome, 007 would be just VII, since they didn't have a numeral for zero.

    • @Packless1
      @Packless1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ...there was a certain (rather connery-ish looking ;-) druid-spy in one volume of Asterix, called Nullnullsix (in the german version), means 006, because he failed the druid-exam 6 times...! ;-)
      ...and - of course - he had some rather cool gadgets, like a collapsable chariot...!
      ...just had to find out how to collapse the horses too...! ;-)

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Brutus, James Brutus, 00 VII

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "I'm agent septimus Septimus".
      "Shouldn't it be agent septuagesimo septimo?"
      "No, I'm agent septimus, and my name is Septimus."

  • @calebl8858
    @calebl8858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Such an interesting topic. I'm fascinated by Roman history and Special Operations so this was really cool to learn about 👍👍

    • @ianmedford4855
      @ianmedford4855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I bet the Papal States had some badasses doing their dirty work. Cersare Borgia had that Micheletto guy working for him. I know he was real, but I have no idea how accurately he's portrayed in the Borgias. If it's even half correct the guy was more deadly than smallpox.
      Actually, I'd like to see more about the Italian city states and their wars in general, its way undercovered.

  • @metatronyt
    @metatronyt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

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    • @rayngabo
      @rayngabo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could you talk about how Roman media worked and whether they would do product placement

    • @kingkuroneko7253
      @kingkuroneko7253 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yo nice topic

    • @AnotherDuck
      @AnotherDuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rayngabo I know gladiators did promote products, at least. Like modern athletes.

  • @davidogundipe808
    @davidogundipe808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I'm pretty sure Metatron would make a great James bond.

    • @dmitrychersky7228
      @dmitrychersky7228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      *has. You're under arrest for besmirching the name of Nero. Please come with us.

    • @jonbaxter2254
      @jonbaxter2254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      But he's not a black woman?

    • @TheOldBlackShuckyDog
      @TheOldBlackShuckyDog 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not British, no thanks

    • @jamesnewcomer4939
      @jamesnewcomer4939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      With half a million subscribers he'd be recognized immediately!

    • @deathdeathington
      @deathdeathington 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      OOVII

  • @johnqpublic2718
    @johnqpublic2718 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man, the transition to the ad-read was so good, I didn’t even mind. Tremendous!

  • @r0ky_M
    @r0ky_M 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Most interesting Metatron production
    I've seen to date concerning Romans.

  • @nikbear
    @nikbear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Absolutely fascinating video, never knew the Roman army had these dedicated units, brilliant work 👍⚔

  • @dragondancer5150
    @dragondancer5150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While a lover of history, I've never thought much of the Roman Empire, not for anything against it, just never really caught my attention. I say that to emphasize how much I've been enjoying - and learning from! - your excellent videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on these topics!

  • @KenzieScarlett
    @KenzieScarlett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Such a good video babes! I had no idea secret service was a thing back in those times, so it’s cool to know that was around even back then! 😎

    • @i_love_crpg
      @i_love_crpg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your account is such a meme lol good one

    • @KenzieScarlett
      @KenzieScarlett 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@i_love_crpg what does that even mean? Lol

    • @i_love_crpg
      @i_love_crpg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Fishy Vagina hahahahahahaha

  • @angelonucci9960
    @angelonucci9960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gran bel video! Parlerai o hai già parlato anche di come invece erano organizzati i contatti ufficiali tra l'Impero e l'esterno (ambasciate, delegazioni, proposte di pace o dichiarazioni di guerra, eccetera eccetera)?
    Grazie ancora per il tuo lavoro

  • @RicardoMoralesMassin
    @RicardoMoralesMassin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    To the tune of "Secret Agent Man" by Jhonny Rivers
    Ancient Roman Spy
    Ancient Roman Spy
    ::lyre riff::

  • @thundermarkperun1083
    @thundermarkperun1083 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you, Metatron this is a fantastic video, particularly useful to me as I've been considering doing a tabletop role-playing game campaign set in ancient Rome, and the Spy Network serves as the perfect framework for having a party of adventurers that is not a part of the regular army

  • @aldahesu28
    @aldahesu28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Metatron and Lindibeige are channels that always leave me with a unquenchable thirst to know more about topics I didn't thought could be so interesting. Ok Roman secret service is a great topic but man!! The way you present it id always engaging.

  • @user-pn5cc4uj9w
    @user-pn5cc4uj9w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i have no idea how accurate it is but the under the eagle series is a fantastic piece of historical fiction about 2 roman soldiers macro and cato who become spies for narcissus.

    • @whemail2527
      @whemail2527 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great books them read them all quality

  • @Dowlphin
    @Dowlphin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Breakfast is not the most important meal of the day. You can leave it out quite easily.

  • @infoscholar5221
    @infoscholar5221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a very educational, inspired, and just plain fun channel for the Romanophile intellectual nerds out there.

  • @goofygoobert7234
    @goofygoobert7234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That ad transition was so smooth!

  • @chenoaholdstock3507
    @chenoaholdstock3507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I suggest that you pair up with Max Miller (tasting history) to show off some of the historical foods used for spies. Just because it would be amazing.

  • @jager6863
    @jager6863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always learn something new, in every video. Thank You

  • @Ltgaigley
    @Ltgaigley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quality as always Metatron!

  • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
    @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm currently working on my tabletop game, and this video came in the precise moment... THANK YOU!

    • @cutenerd1177
      @cutenerd1177 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck on your game.

  • @MrPh30
    @MrPh30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Re Speculatore. In my dialect here in Norway " spekulere" means, think,discover ,find out whats going on,and similar .

    • @Nimbasa180
      @Nimbasa180 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same with speculate.
      Everything goes back to latin roots.

  • @josecarlosdominguez7279
    @josecarlosdominguez7279 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very interesting breakdown, I've heard most of these mentioned at somepoint, bot not with such an in depth explanation.

  • @mcclane4sd
    @mcclane4sd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Metatron, your series is the most enjoyable part of research for my historical fiction novel on Ancient Rome. Food prepared in the controburnia for the 8+2 men is a video I heartily anticipate. Chickpeas, anyone?

    • @willemthijssen1082
      @willemthijssen1082 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      he needs to collaborate with Tasting History on that one

  • @darthnihilusthebestsith
    @darthnihilusthebestsith 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The amount of information in this video is huge! I love this

  • @cingenedovenaugustus4558
    @cingenedovenaugustus4558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man that was a needed video in my life, thanks dude.

  • @TheoryMaK15-255
    @TheoryMaK15-255 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You Noble Master For this Wonderful Educational Video. And the Cereal That Is Keto Friendly!!! I've been doing keto for 3.5 Years and this IS Great!! Thank YOU!!!

  • @seatonking8136
    @seatonking8136 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've said before and will say it again. The ranks that were required to be multipurpose were the backbone to every empire. Most ranks never went past theyre own duties but those few had a lot placed on them without much recognition. Hats off to you for giving them that.

  • @TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight
    @TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love a short series dedicated to historical espionage. I also want a video on the jinyiwei of Ming Dynasty China, because I heard they were hardcore about espionage too.

  • @iohan2801
    @iohan2801 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My best moment of the week: New Metatron video.

  • @irondiver2034
    @irondiver2034 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video. Always wondered about a Roman secret service. In the series “The Chosen “ I believe a character is playing one of these roles.

    • @thehackingburger3002
      @thehackingburger3002 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which one? The "villain" Roman guy? It's pretty interesting how Matthew could almost fit the role as well! XD

    • @irondiver2034
      @irondiver2034 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thehackingburger3002 yes that is the guy. He is following the zealots. He revealed himself to the legate.

  • @JMObyx
    @JMObyx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Wow, so this means that one of Jesus' Apostles who was formerly a Tax Collector might've been a Frumentarii?
    That's wild!

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Religion has always been psy-ops warfare all the way down

    • @ChristianAuditore14
      @ChristianAuditore14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@SonsOfLorgar so edgy

    • @r0ky_M
      @r0ky_M 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You forgot Judas and what's called "Spy Wednesday".

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ChristianAuditore14 not really, just can't stand that particular sub category of authoritarian extortion rackets anymore.

    • @tommygames9859
      @tommygames9859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SonsOfLorgar name checks out

  • @Astorath_the_Grim
    @Astorath_the_Grim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    We Frumentarii are soldiers of a different stripe, capable in battle, but skilled as infiltrators and agents as well.

  • @WaterMelon-Cat
    @WaterMelon-Cat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Magic spoon might be one of the only youtube sponsors I would actually try

  • @_Caedwyn
    @_Caedwyn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love it when a fully grown man in helmet and spoon in hand is talking about colorful tasty cereals XD

  • @quintustheophilus9550
    @quintustheophilus9550 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredibly informative, Metatron. Amazing video!

  • @antonivsfortis
    @antonivsfortis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AYYYYYYYY LOVE YOUR WORK, got excited when I saw the title

  • @psibernight2177
    @psibernight2177 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great inspiration for writing.

  • @valeriesarthou9355
    @valeriesarthou9355 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Video interessante e molto ricco di informazioni. Ho imparato un sacco di cose su quest' argomento. Grazie mille

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Grazie a te, gentilissimo

  • @wind-upboy939
    @wind-upboy939 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. Very interesting.

  • @charlieturner5831
    @charlieturner5831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love to see a video on the Roman navy. Keep up the good work!!!

  • @Zaeyrus
    @Zaeyrus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oooooo, this will be fun! Hope you don't mind if I use some ideas from this video in my rpg game!

  • @gamingdealer9514
    @gamingdealer9514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you read the Strategikon, you can see a lot of info on how they used spies.

  • @mallardtheduck406
    @mallardtheduck406 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Alway's learn something new from your channel...Thanks, Metatron!!!

  • @blackpigeon4743
    @blackpigeon4743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another interesting topic

  • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
    @GreenBlueWalkthrough 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Working on a fantasy alt-history book where the Roman republic survived the transition to empire so this is a great help thanks!

  • @meangreen2580
    @meangreen2580 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really cool video! Keep it up I’m a huge fan.

  • @chuniyana
    @chuniyana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Topic as Always.
    Love from India🇮🇳💜

  • @deathdeathington
    @deathdeathington 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had no idea there was so much information about ancient secret services and spies! I feel like I've stumbled into a goldmine. I might have known Julius Caesar had a big hand in all of this. What a fella! I mean, his whole life is remarkable, what with having to hide from Sulla because of Uncle Marius, and all of the cloak and dagger (pun intended) he must have had to go through just to step foot outside his house. It seems he was born for intrigue and scheming. Love the videos Metatron! keep em coming.

  • @fransbuijs808
    @fransbuijs808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    4:15 As Napoleon said: An army marches on its stomach.

  • @Bludvarg
    @Bludvarg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    7:00 That rendition of the assassination of Julius Caesar was a wasted opportunity, given AC had already established way back in Brotherhood that Brutus had a special armor and dagger that were used in that event, yet were seemingly completely forgotten about (or maybe ignored) as of Origins. I guess we're supposed to believe that Brutus' equipment was retconned to be made later and just had stories made up about them...although that doesn't explain the Secta Luporum that protected and worshiped the armor...

    • @ddpzzp553
      @ddpzzp553 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well he probably had the amor but if he used tha in thesenste it would have been too suspicuius

  • @lucianoleonetti7864
    @lucianoleonetti7864 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice video, clear and more complete than a monography I read on this argument. Maybe a mention to Castra Peregrina or Castra Peregrinorum, which hosted the Milites Peregrini in Rome (Celius hill, probably where is now located a string of hospitals). It is not known for sure what kind of milites this structure was hosting, but one of the most accredited theses is that this was the Frumentarii HQs. In Rome there was a unit entirely made of Frumentarii (numerus Frumentariorum) under command of a centurion who had the title of Princeps Peregrinorum. The connection name of the "castra" - title of the commander of Frumentarii is at the base of this thesis. However, other theses consider that Milites Peregrini were instead individuals detached from their units and present for different duties in Rome, including Frumentarii and Speculatores, but not only them. An older thesis according to which these were soldiers without Roman citizenship ("peregrini" means free persons living in Roman territory, but not a citizen) is now less credited.

  • @victorhugoeh974
    @victorhugoeh974 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! Romans were much more ahead of their time than I thought! Fascinating video 😃👍

  • @wolfensniper4012
    @wolfensniper4012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouls you also explores similar topics on Hashashins, Janisseris, Medieval Europe and Byzantine? It would be really intriguing to know about if different medieval countries also have a complex institution as the romans did.

  • @JuliusCaesar819
    @JuliusCaesar819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I am not mistaken the persians had also a similar state-controled spy network. It could be a nice topic for a future video. Good work on the video btw !

  • @Eduardo_Ventura
    @Eduardo_Ventura 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a goldmine this video.

  • @Fatherofheroesandheroines
    @Fatherofheroesandheroines 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bondicus..Jamus Bondicus.

  • @rickthelearner5631
    @rickthelearner5631 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome thumbnail and content, Ser Metatron.

  • @noname-bk7bc
    @noname-bk7bc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was started getting sad because I thought you were not going to mention the Agentes en Rebus. I started taking Latin when I read about them in Pliny the Younger. I'm glad I stuck around till the end

  • @stormiewutzke4190
    @stormiewutzke4190 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like a great movie or book concept

  • @justtime6736
    @justtime6736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    *4:34*
    *That's me with Vibram Five Fingers*
    Seriously, 13 year customer. Not even paid, love them that much!

  • @ClemensKindermann
    @ClemensKindermann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This reminds me of Dubbelosix from the Asterix volume "Asterix and the Black Gold". 😁

  • @marcello7781
    @marcello7781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting topics! I wonder if the numerous enemies and rivals of Rome had something similar too. Sicarii come to my mind.

  • @jasonirby3382
    @jasonirby3382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your content is superb.

  • @viriatoos
    @viriatoos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One topic could be spoken off if is not much to ask is How message where send to one place to other on the battlefield weather was on Roman times or more XV century,I recently started to think that there’s no much videos about that,(logistic and communications )in the army specially at war and on the battlefield 🙏

  • @ktheterkuceder6825
    @ktheterkuceder6825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please a topic on Lucullus and Marcellus.

  • @maxtyson9035
    @maxtyson9035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice. Spies also existed in Mauryan Indian Empire. Can you do a video on Indian Armour.

  • @Leynx-Et-Fenrir
    @Leynx-Et-Fenrir 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super interesting... very different from the Roman spies in Astérix (It was my best source of information about the era)

  • @omariscovoador7486
    @omariscovoador7486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can imagine that provocatorii would be hated by the local population, imagine you drink too much wine and starting cursing the emperor, than the guy just gets up and arrests you

    • @greyjedi4794
      @greyjedi4794 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For sure... They didn't have the concept of entrapment then, and even today... Some LE Agencies don't care

  • @doctorlolchicken7478
    @doctorlolchicken7478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Metatron sounds all Italian talking about Romans, but when he sells Magic Spoon he sounds like Del Boy.

  • @michaelrossi4904
    @michaelrossi4904 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was literally thinking about this privately

  • @RolfHartmann
    @RolfHartmann 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The mention of Exploratores reminds me of the 'Exploring Officers' of the British Army during the Peninsula War, and that nearly every bridge they used turned out to have been originally built by the Romans.

  • @bo_392
    @bo_392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Never speak badly of the emperor, especially to those you just met." woahhh

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like social media

  • @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014
    @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember reading about the Arcani, they were disbanded after their betrayal during the Barbarica Conspiratio (Great Conspiracy) 367-368 AD, which they almost made Britannia a total war invasion

  • @gundamthatateataco4729
    @gundamthatateataco4729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Maybe, Metatron, tasting history, collab? He just made something on gladiators, and I think he made something about the military.

    • @beepboop204
      @beepboop204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      now as a result of that video i cant shake the idea that gladiators were all a bit farty

    • @kanrakucheese
      @kanrakucheese 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Historical Italian Cooking would be more local to him and more in depth.

  • @YelFlux
    @YelFlux 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thx for the knowledge

  • @OneOneThree-wl7ml
    @OneOneThree-wl7ml 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha, I love magic spoon. Good choice of sponsors lol

  • @noahdoyle6780
    @noahdoyle6780 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely fascinating! It's the organizational structure and bureaucratic functions of the Republic/Empire that I find to be intriguing. The Legions are incredible, don't get me wrong, but the support and intelligence structures that surround them - including logistics - that make them work.

  • @kevinsullivan3448
    @kevinsullivan3448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Outstanding information. It is important to understand that 'ancient' cultures were as complex as out own when it comes to political systems and bureaucracies. The Babylonians didn't last as long as they did by being bumbling idiots, the Assyrians didn't control a vast empire by accident, they, and other ancient civilizations, had systems and organizations that filled most of the functions as modern governments, but without electricity or other modern conveniences, which only makes them more bad ass.
    I respect ancient engineers more than modern engineers because they were able to construct great feats of engineering without heavy equipment or computational devices. They didn't even have slide rules! Yet we have the Pyramids, the Great Wall, Stonehenge, the Roman aqueducts and viaducts, and so many other ancient wonders that baffle the ignorant buffoons of today.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yup, the only things that has really changed throughout human history since we lived in and around caves is the avaliable tools, the understanding of availiable materials through experimentation and the accuracy of our measuring systems.

    • @ghettoleprechaun5234
      @ghettoleprechaun5234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@SonsOfLorgar well no not really, humanity itself changed fundamentally with the advent of the cultivation of crops and livestock, which is the benchmark for the beginning of modern civilization. had humanity not made the transition out of being hunter-gatherers none of our major advancements like the written language/recording history would have been possible

    • @ghettoleprechaun5234
      @ghettoleprechaun5234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      im pretty sure we know how those were built now but theres no reason to replicate them because of our modern technology. Yes the records for them were lost but weve been able to figure out the only possible ways they couldve built these through better understanding of the time periods.

    • @Intranetusa
      @Intranetusa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I respect modern engineers as much if not more than ancient engineers because modern engineers are able to build much more efficiently than the ancients. Even though the ancient didn't have heavy equipment, they did have lots and lots of cheap, conscripted, or outright slave labor. As the saying goes: “Any idiot can build a bridge that stands, but it takes an engineer to build a bridge that barely stands.”

    • @bobfg3130
      @bobfg3130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Modern engineers build thongs that the ancients couldn't even dream of. Ancient engineers built quite simple structures.

  • @SquagelZ
    @SquagelZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video reminds me of something I saw in the streaming series called “The Chosen”. Where a prominent character in season 2 is a member of the something called the Cohorte Urbanae. Have you done a video about them Metatron?

  • @skjaldulfr
    @skjaldulfr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That stock footage of the guy in the tux hesitantly sliding the mag in and out was awkward.