Good comment. It is indeed important that Oistrakh played this most probably in front of his students. And Oistrakh's performances were sensitive to audience as Oistrakh recognized by himself. He always remembered about audience and there were always subtle connections between audience and his playing.
This is a such wonderful discovery! My teacher does the same thing, he'll play something perfectly and then say, "Sorry I suck" and I just laugh. It's a clever way to subtly remind us that we could all be better.
Definitely! Also, life in the old school Soviet Russia was understated and repressed. Nothing could be over the top. Nobody was happy. Everyone was more or less equally miserable. Artists were among those few who were allowed to express themselves in public and convey emotions. They were in the public eye and had to care a great deal about how they made people feel. As such, they could not show off or brag - at least not in public. Art was but a temporary means of escape from misery. What a way to live!
rolf78 that is true but oistrakh was a highly respected man and though what you said is very pertinent he did have a much better life than the average person
It is incredible but I have to say I’ve seen him do better, by an infinitely small amount but for him that deflection in tone in the beginning must have felt catastrophic for a violinist of his caliber.
That was absolutely superb, Oistrakh's performances are committed, passionate and highly intelligent which places him above most other violinists including Heifetz. The pianist was also superb.
Это была великая пианистка. К сожалению невозможно ничего о ней узнать, о её жизни, о её биографии. В СССР и в современной России очень небрежно относятся к памяти о людях, если они не КГБшники
This is one of the greatest violinists of all time! How can anyone "not like" this performance?!? I like the comment about 14 ppl missing the "like" button...LMAO!
Oistrakh is Oistrakh and there's really nothing left to be said about him except the question: was he a god or was he God? But please let's not forget the AMAZING Frida Bauer. I heard those two play the Franck Sonata together live in '69 or '70 and as great as he was, we all couldn't take our eyes (or ears) off Ms. Bauer. I've never since heard the piece played like that.
to me Oistrakh was God .... I was lucky enough to have met him in amazing cicumstances.... over different times ..... Robin Clavreul cellist robinclavreul@sfr.fr
listening to this again, I've noticed that it's an absolutely fantastic piano part! Perfectly Ravel. The violin doesn't exactly seem like Ravel, but then again, Ravel didn't composer much for violin. Fantastic piece
He always reminds me of my father’s old car mechanic... in looks that is, not in terms of his violin playing funnily enough. My favourite violinist of all time.
Astonishing. Has anyone else noticed that there seemed to be a trend of great virtuosity in all the instruments in the twentieth century? Particularly between the 1920's and 70's? Oistrakh, Heifetz, Primose, Milstein, etc..
ive checked out other renditions and this is my favorite. its haunting and so vulnerably delicate. it surely casts a spell that the other superb versions seem to be lacking. all the others are great. this ones almost other worldly. perhaps he did have some help indeed as a previous poster has implied. ;^)
To all of you criticising Oistrakh, a small note: Notice his face, and his body language before he starts....I am positive that he has been playing for a long time ON THE SAME DAY before performing Tzigane for this Video...He seems pretty exhausted......He definately is not in the mood of playing Tzigane.....Despite that, every flower has its beauty, Oistrakh, ferras, Heifetz etc.
This whole piece, but especially the ending (8:20) has a ton of what sound like modulations. I realize they could be interpreted as a departure from a traditional key signature, but they way they are used really sounds like they are meant to be perceived in the context of what might traditionally be thought of as a modulation. This makes each little "key change" hold a bit more weight and pack a harder emotional punch. Enhances the dizzying effect of the piece.
Hmm, sounds a quarter tone flat... in fact, it is, I checked it. I've always believed that playing in quarter tone intervals can expand the emotional capabilities of key signatures. Interesting to hear the first note right in between b and b flat
Oistrakh's jacket reminds me of what a butcher might wear. His play, however, is remarkable. My favorite belongs to Heifetz, but Oistrakh does things that I truly appreciate; such as jumping right into a new phrasing pattern & not overduing with excessive bowing & vibrato. Oistrakh never felt that his harmonics were all that great. His left-hand pizz may not have been all that strong, but his harmonics were superb. Bravo!
The video response posted by Darren Leaper, is an excellent performance of the piece, despite the lights in the concert hall going off unexpectedly half way through! The two musicians carry on unphased, and fortunately the lights return before the climatic end.
Dear OriginalMoonshooter: There you go again! Ravel ready to fight a duel? Ravel was a weak, sickly man who couldn't have fought his way out of a paper bag. The love of his life were his cats which he insatiably talked about as though they were his children.What about Oistrakh? No doubt you rate the amateur Bell higher. Notice that when Oistrakh plays it, images of Looney Toons characters aren't conjured up. Nothing is exaggerated.The integrity of the musical score is respected.Your Uncle.June.
@cellist18 around this time period, many argued that the standard tuning note shouldn't be A440 and that it should be A432, so that may be why it sounds the way it does. Or like you said, it could be the old recording, I could see either being true.
No I didn't mean that he didn't on purpose, I just meant that it happened to add an emotional effect to the pice. Obviously the reason it is a quarter tone flat is because of the recording technology, which is odd because usually old recordings are sharp lol
When I say perfect, I do not mean note-perfect, but perfect in a musical sense. I have listened to many recordings of the Tzigane, but only the one that I posted actually satisfies me, in a musical sense. But certainly, I'm not claiming that he's the best -- Chacun son goût!
@cteno411 yes it is sl "tame" listen to kogan's version for some more beefiness raw power. however here we have the gentle giant of the violin the great and lovley mr oistrakh. he personna overflows when he plays one can feel his wonderfulness coming out from the violin. truly one of the greats
@iWyke2 , not he tuned, it is needed. Did you notice that the piano tuned lower that A440 too? Why? Because in the past, people use gut string but not steel string.
thanks for ur invaluable advice. as if i wasn't already going to do so. and i do believe this "comments" function in youtube is meant for giving comments isn't it.
I watch many of these great artist play and I am amazed by the stupid remarks some people make about this and that mistakes they think they hear. they Should get hearing test. These are probably violinist themselves and are not aware that they can't even tune their violins as well as the people they are talking about.
I love listening to classical music. But it would be better without reading so many pretentious, haughty comment under the videos. Thumbs up if you agree
Eh, it can be funny. Sometimes people have good anecdotes too. It's just like the sports video comments: "WTF! Yeah, Three Finger Brown had a 1.12 ERA in 1912! That was in the dead ball era when 10 home runs led the league. Clemens faced guys on roids that were all 200 lbs. plus. And they never proved he juiced!"
The pitch needs to be corrected. The whole tape is about a half-tone flat, unfortunately, which also makes the tempo a bit slower than it actually was.
@madmax8903 woah just because they remind you of " a couple of ugly music teachers" YOU had doesn't mean they actually " reflect no fun or enjoyment in what they are doing,and give the idea that it's all grim and emotionless." They make look stiff, rigid and not as wild and carefree as musicians nowadays but it doesnt mean that they don't enjoy it or there's no fun in it at all. I besides,that happiness they have is sometimes hidden in the way they immerse themselves in the music and performance
Surprisingly tame for Tzigane. I think the piece does much better with larger dynamic fluctuations... or maybe I'm just noticing the difference between live performances and video/audio recordings.
although i prefer kogan's clarity and masculinity in more technical pieces, oistrakh played in that eerie, as menuhin would phrase it, "demonic", form; similar to enescu his violin weeps here, rather than sings. i wish i could play in darker tones such as this. not my favorite violinist but a fantastic tone!! perlman once commented that although oistrakh's violin wasn't the finest, he played it magnificently.
@007TheViolinist no, its definitely the sound quality. first, people still use gut strings (i do), and second, they have nothing to do with the tuning of an instrument.
You might want to check out your facts sometime. This piece was written by Ravel, read the title, who was far from baroque. The tuning is because of the recording, check out many of the old videos here, the greatest musicians did not play out of tune as the recordings would lead you to believe. Few baroque pieces call for different tunings, a notable example is the 5th cello suite by Bach (a baroque composer, just in case you are confused) because changing the tuning makes it easier to play.
David Oistrakh was an incredible violinist. I once heard him live. He was unbelievably great. Such a lovely quality sound.
lucky you.. I wish I could say the same. Tanks TH-cam
David Oistrakh is really good, a genius,a máster,but Heifetz is God playing violín....
@@alanher11 Oistrakh plays certain stuff better than Heifetz and vice versa
Not just David but the pianist was EXCELLENT absolutely impeccable
Yes, her name Frida Bauer
I can not believe his face at the very end!
“Meh, I could’ve done better”
INCREDIBLE
Good comment. It is indeed important that Oistrakh played this most probably in front of his students. And Oistrakh's performances were sensitive to audience as Oistrakh recognized by himself. He always remembered about audience and there were always subtle connections between audience and his playing.
This is a such wonderful discovery! My teacher does the same thing, he'll play something perfectly and then say, "Sorry I suck" and I just laugh. It's a clever way to subtly remind us that we could all be better.
Definitely! Also, life in the old school Soviet Russia was understated and repressed. Nothing could be over the top. Nobody was happy. Everyone was more or less equally miserable. Artists were among those few who were allowed to express themselves in public and convey emotions. They were in the public eye and had to care a great deal about how they made people feel. As such, they could not show off or brag - at least not in public. Art was but a temporary means of escape from misery. What a way to live!
rolf78 that is true but oistrakh was a highly respected man and though what you said is very pertinent he did have a much better life than the average person
It is incredible but I have to say I’ve seen him do better, by an infinitely small amount but for him that deflection in tone in the beginning must have felt catastrophic for a violinist of his caliber.
That was absolutely superb, Oistrakh's performances are committed, passionate and highly intelligent which places him above most other violinists including Heifetz. The pianist was also superb.
Гениальное исполнение! Ойстрах величайший маэстро скрипки!!! Браво!!!
А Фрида? 👍👍👍
Amazing playing, one of the greatest renditions of this piece I've ever heard.
Oistrakh is amazing, his tone is wonderful ❤️
I personally feel David Oistrakh had an unbelievable talent.He truly was so special and unique!!
I love Frida Bauer! She seems to really understand the piano, and she plays with a kind of dignity, like an old lady knitting or something
Frida was a queen of accompaniment in the USSR
Это была великая пианистка. К сожалению невозможно ничего о ней узнать, о её жизни, о её биографии. В СССР и в современной России очень небрежно относятся к памяти о людях, если они не КГБшники
how could anyone not love this man
Sooooo beautiful!!! David Oistrakh and Frida Bauer are legends. 😍❤️❤️❤️
This is one of the greatest violinists of all time! How can anyone "not like" this performance?!?
I like the comment about 14 ppl missing the "like" button...LMAO!
Oistrakh is Oistrakh and there's really nothing left to be said about him except the question: was he a god or was he God? But please let's not forget the AMAZING Frida Bauer. I heard those two play the Franck Sonata together live in '69 or '70 and as great as he was, we all couldn't take our eyes (or ears) off Ms. Bauer. I've never since heard the piece played like that.
to me Oistrakh was God .... I was lucky enough to have met him in amazing cicumstances.... over different times ..... Robin Clavreul cellist robinclavreul@sfr.fr
assindiastignani my hero definitely
Thank you for saying that. He was the one and only. And Frida was the best accompanist.
Truly, life was better in B&W.
I have always thought that. Glad to know I am not alone.:)
Life had more magic.
I want this color translated to be honest. I wanna see the sheen of both the strad and the sweat of his brow.
Still absolutely dazzling after all these years!
listening to this again, I've noticed that it's an absolutely fantastic piano part! Perfectly Ravel. The violin doesn't exactly seem like Ravel, but then again, Ravel didn't composer much for violin. Fantastic piece
Best tone I've ever heard. Wonderful! Thank you very much for posting.
Frida Bauer on the piano. She was a queen of accompaniment
Bravo Maestro!Úžasný výkon.
Poklona.
Anika
Amazing. I've heard dozens of recordings of Tzigane, and this is every bit as good as PatKo.
He was a truly fabulous player. I loved his playing.
He always reminds me of my father’s old car mechanic... in looks that is, not in terms of his violin playing funnily enough. My favourite violinist of all time.
Wow! And I'm in love with the piece all over again.
This is wonderful, thank you for posting. Surprisingly good audio quality.
Zo eerlijk ! Zo subliem ! Dank !!!
marcel kegels Echt prachtig!
Astonishing. Has anyone else noticed that there seemed to be a trend of great virtuosity in all the instruments in the twentieth century? Particularly between the 1920's and 70's? Oistrakh, Heifetz, Primose, Milstein, etc..
it was the golden era of the violin
ive checked out other renditions and this is my favorite. its haunting and so vulnerably delicate. it surely casts a spell that the other superb versions seem to be lacking. all the others are great. this ones almost other worldly. perhaps he did have some help indeed as a previous poster has implied. ;^)
grazie di esistere.....sarai sempre il più grande di tutti !!!
he is playing on Stradivarius "Marsik" Cremona 1705.
here it goes again.
it's his approach, so don't bother his style.
he feels comfortable with what he plays so don't mess with him.
To all of you criticising Oistrakh, a small note: Notice his face, and his body language before he starts....I am positive that he has been playing for a long time ON THE SAME DAY before performing Tzigane for this Video...He seems pretty exhausted......He definately is not in the mood of playing Tzigane.....Despite that, every flower has its beauty, Oistrakh, ferras, Heifetz etc.
This version of Oistrakh and Bauer playing Tzigane is the best there is of Ravel's masterpiece. And that's final.
Ginette Neveu live rendition in New York with orchestra and the recording with brother Jean is out of this world. Absolutely fantastic.
This whole piece, but especially the ending (8:20) has a ton of what sound like modulations. I realize they could be interpreted as a departure from a traditional key signature, but they way they are used really sounds like they are meant to be perceived in the context of what might traditionally be thought of as a modulation. This makes each little "key change" hold a bit more weight and pack a harder emotional punch. Enhances the dizzying effect of the piece.
Hmm, sounds a quarter tone flat... in fact, it is, I checked it. I've always believed that playing in quarter tone intervals can expand the emotional capabilities of key signatures. Interesting to hear the first note right in between b and b flat
It's probably because of the quality (inconsistency of production) of the LP. I had LPs that would play sharp.
Sounds almost half tone flat
I immediately noticed when he was tuning
Oistrakh at 415 ! Rare indeed 😂
2 GREAT MUSICIANS!
Oistrakh is the best ever!
Fantastical
I think its a dignified sober look of a violinist who just finished a great piece.
schöner Ton von Herr Oistrakh!
The only one violin player ever, born in Odessa, who died too young....
Oistrakh's jacket reminds me of what a butcher might wear. His play, however, is remarkable. My favorite belongs to Heifetz, but Oistrakh does things that I truly appreciate; such as jumping right into a new phrasing pattern & not overduing with excessive bowing & vibrato.
Oistrakh never felt that his harmonics were all that great. His left-hand pizz may not have been all that strong, but his harmonics were superb.
Bravo!
Soviet chic😉
i have to laugh and cry the same time when i hear that! O_O
Oistrakh, number one.
schöner ton von Herr Oistrakh!!
thanks for post this, amazing!
so stately and graceful
Это такое счастье это слышать !!!
The video response posted by Darren Leaper, is an excellent performance of the piece, despite the lights in the concert hall going off unexpectedly half way through! The two musicians carry on unphased, and fortunately the lights return before the climatic end.
Superb 😍
King David
Dear OriginalMoonshooter: There you go again! Ravel ready to fight a duel? Ravel was a weak, sickly man who couldn't have fought his way out of a paper bag. The love of his life were his cats which he insatiably talked about as though they were his children.What about Oistrakh? No doubt you rate the amateur Bell higher. Notice that when Oistrakh plays it, images of Looney Toons characters aren't conjured up. Nothing is exaggerated.The integrity of the musical score is respected.Your Uncle.June.
king of the violin...
@cellist18 around this time period, many argued that the standard tuning note shouldn't be A440 and that it should be A432, so that may be why it sounds the way it does. Or like you said, it could be the old recording, I could see either being true.
Брависсимо!!
Bello!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
the greatest! listen to his Tchaikovsky's violin concert....!!!
I love the piano part from 0:00- 3:48! hahahhahaha.
But really, great piece from a master composer played by a master vioilnist
Lindíssimo
It was suposed to be a Guarneri Del Jesu ! Right `? Menuhin himself said Oïstrakh was the BEST !
No I didn't mean that he didn't on purpose, I just meant that it happened to add an emotional effect to the pice. Obviously the reason it is a quarter tone flat is because of the recording technology, which is odd because usually old recordings are sharp lol
THE violin!!!
Quelle intelligence et humilité …
simplemente espectacular. mi idolo
The Master!
When I say perfect, I do not mean note-perfect, but perfect in a musical sense.
I have listened to many recordings of the Tzigane, but only the one that I posted actually satisfies me, in a musical sense.
But certainly, I'm not claiming that he's the best -- Chacun son goût!
marvelous, really impressive
@cteno411 yes it is sl "tame" listen to kogan's version for some more beefiness raw power. however here we have the gentle giant of the violin the great and lovley mr oistrakh. he personna overflows when he plays one can feel his wonderfulness coming out from the violin. truly one of the greats
His strad from 1705 is called "Marsick" after the previous owner.
king david
@iWyke2 , not he tuned, it is needed. Did you notice that the piano tuned lower that A440 too? Why? Because in the past, people use gut string but not steel string.
moya muzika-moy ispolnitel-geniy-eto svolschebstvo-ya ego raba
Genial
thanks for ur invaluable advice. as if i wasn't already going to do so. and i do believe this "comments" function in youtube is meant for giving comments isn't it.
yeah he does, it's kind of weird actually, usually old videos are a half step sharp, not flat
As a response, I posted another one of Oistrakh's recordings -- the only perfect recording of the Tzigane I've ever heard.
who cares about perfect? the music is implied in every note. this is brilliant to watch!
I watch many of these great artist play and I am amazed by the stupid remarks some people make about this and that mistakes they think they hear. they Should get hearing test. These are probably violinist themselves and are not aware that they can't even tune their violins as well as the people they are talking about.
I love listening to classical music. But it would be better without reading so many pretentious, haughty comment under the videos. Thumbs up if you agree
Eh, it can be funny. Sometimes people have good anecdotes too. It's just like the sports video comments: "WTF! Yeah, Three Finger Brown had a 1.12 ERA in 1912! That was in the dead ball era when 10 home runs led the league. Clemens faced guys on roids that were all 200 lbs. plus. And they never proved he juiced!"
wat a BEASSSSSTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!
very beautiful
shoutout to the pianist too
now that was just badass
Immenso
If the video is slowed for some reason then the pitch will drop. My guess is that he tuned to 440 and actually played it much faster.
The pitch needs to be corrected. The whole tape is about a half-tone flat, unfortunately, which also makes the tempo a bit slower than it actually was.
Glad I'm not the only one that caught that!
It might be in baroque tuning
No I’m pretty sure that’s how he intended to play it
No, it isn't flat. And if you are sharp enough eyed when the camera is on Frida Bauer you will see that it is not.
fantasztikus
oistrakh is the best
David Oistrakh was a genius, a máster, but Heifetz was God playing violín!
@madmax8903 woah just because they remind you of " a couple of ugly music teachers" YOU had doesn't mean they actually " reflect no fun or enjoyment in what they are doing,and give the idea that it's all grim and emotionless." They make look stiff, rigid and not as wild and carefree as musicians nowadays but it doesnt mean that they don't enjoy it or there's no fun in it at all. I besides,that happiness they have is sometimes hidden in the way they immerse themselves in the music and performance
¡¡¡¡ El MEJOR!!!
agreed
I like the way he tunes to Ab, I'm wondering why he does that.
genial
Surprisingly tame for Tzigane. I think the piece does much better with larger dynamic fluctuations... or maybe I'm just noticing the difference between live performances and video/audio recordings.
although i prefer kogan's clarity and masculinity in more technical pieces, oistrakh played in that eerie, as menuhin would phrase it, "demonic", form; similar to enescu his violin weeps here, rather than sings. i wish i could play in darker tones such as this. not my favorite violinist but a fantastic tone!! perlman once commented that although oistrakh's violin wasn't the finest, he played it magnificently.
@007TheViolinist no, its definitely the sound quality. first, people still use gut strings (i do), and second, they have nothing to do with the tuning of an instrument.
perfect.
You might want to check out your facts sometime. This piece was written by Ravel, read the title, who was far from baroque. The tuning is because of the recording, check out many of the old videos here, the greatest musicians did not play out of tune as the recordings would lead you to believe.
Few baroque pieces call for different tunings, a notable example is the 5th cello suite by Bach (a baroque composer, just in case you are confused) because changing the tuning makes it easier to play.
i like this more than Perlman's version.
ke potenza!!!