Mary Katherine Higdon | Murder or Self-defense?!

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  • @ninaferg
    @ninaferg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5773

    They're both toxic but she literally admitted to killing him out of anger

    • @Xyzjro
      @Xyzjro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      istg!!!

    • @CandyXVI
      @CandyXVI 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      We don't know that. The audio is unclear.

    • @Hanniekinz
      @Hanniekinz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Yeah, I’m not sure why the police officer in the room couldn’t testify as to what he heard. I know it’s not the same, but I don’t think it should be thrown away completely.

    • @CandyXVI
      @CandyXVI 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@Hanniekinz because we don't know what she said, and he has an interest in putting her in jail. She would probably say she didn't confess. No proof is reasonable doubt.

    • @natalierathbone4349
      @natalierathbone4349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      According to the police, who never lie

  • @Alexandra.4.4.4
    @Alexandra.4.4.4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4182

    Seemed like they were both horrible to each other; I believe she killed him on purpose. GUILTY

  • @naniomitendayo
    @naniomitendayo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1862

    She had all intentions to kill him and she did. Guilty.

  • @cassandratarotspells369
    @cassandratarotspells369 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    Gosh.. sometimes a relationship can really be toxic for both people. I wish people would let go of relationships like this. Both people may have been ok on their own..

    • @clairecarty906
      @clairecarty906 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, I was thinking the same thing. They were clearly terrible to each other. Wish they had just walked away before it got here.

  • @merncat3384
    @merncat3384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8127

    She looks like a totally different person in every photo.

    • @ClaraP23
      @ClaraP23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Tru

    • @AshleyNichole624
      @AshleyNichole624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      i thought the same!

    • @autismstrong9069
      @autismstrong9069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      I thought exactly the same

    • @Pandabear273
      @Pandabear273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      I thought that too. When they showed her at her trail I went back and looked at the thumbnail wondering if it was the same person.

    • @strawbemmy
      @strawbemmy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      was just abt to say the same thing! the mugshot vs the thumbnail picture is shocking

  • @helendrew3640
    @helendrew3640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2438

    I think she murdered him but it sounds like a mutually abusive relationship, very sad.

    • @veronicanonica
      @veronicanonica 3 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      It seemed to be very toxic for both of them... the abuse was mutual... so my question is this... Had it been the other way around, and MK was killed... with the same exact evidence and no confession... and a self defense claim on his part... do you believe that he would have been found not guilty as well?? 🤔 I think he would be found guilty of first degree murder under the same exact circumstances... so because she is a woman, she is able to claim victim?? Unfortunately, our system is very flawed... I don't believe justice was served here

    • @maramonet
      @maramonet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@veronicanonica I completely agree! 1000%

    • @pumpkin1125
      @pumpkin1125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@veronicanonica I agree

    • @shiquonnewinkfield4751
      @shiquonnewinkfield4751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@veronicanonica all the women of the jury thought this girl was guilty but TWO men didn’t . It’s rare that a man fails a man but they chose a case like this to do so 😆

    • @solay825
      @solay825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@shiquonnewinkfield4751 I thought that part was shocking the woman could tell she was wrong but then men couldn’t believe she was capable of doing it

  • @im_mia5864
    @im_mia5864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2390

    Should she not have gotten manslaughter? Even if it was an accident she still killed someone...

    • @kalieXandXkallysta
      @kalieXandXkallysta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      Well if it was in “self defense” a lot of people don’t get charged for manslaughter

    • @joannab7504
      @joannab7504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Agreed

    • @cortney3798
      @cortney3798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      If they don’t make it one of the charges, they can’t charge her with it. Soo many times people that should be doing time don’t because of over zealous prosecution

    • @charlierenee1694
      @charlierenee1694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@cortney3798 I feel like every murder case should have manslaughter as an option. Not every case is black and white.

    • @JazminDaneen
      @JazminDaneen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      im_ mia I was wondering the same thing!

  • @darlabarber6373
    @darlabarber6373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Here in Muncie Indiana we have an unsolved missing person case. Ashley Morris Mullis ended up missing 4 years ago. Her father is desperately seeking answers. He literally stands on the street holding missing person signs. I’d love it if you could bring awareness to the case. Her father is very receptive to interviews.

    • @toothless2690
      @toothless2690 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Theres a link above you can ask her about this

  • @TheEssJay
    @TheEssJay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6304

    Here me out tho: evidence or not, a man died. Why not at the very LEAST charge her with manslaughter or accidental manslaughter. Getting off Scott free is ridiculous

    • @funnylulu2000
      @funnylulu2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      I agree with this!!

    • @lunaquadrophenia17
      @lunaquadrophenia17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      unfortunately that's not how it works

    • @jadynn0019
      @jadynn0019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      exactly what i was thinking

    • @bridgetward9503
      @bridgetward9503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@funnylulu2000 lllllpp poop oppoppppppppp poop olpppppp poop oopppp

    • @therandomgirl5590
      @therandomgirl5590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      I’m pretty sure that it was a debate whether it was murder, or self defense. Cause you have a right to defend yourself if someone if trying to hurt you. So even though she mostly did kill him, it’s not necessarily ridiculous because the ruling (unfortunately) was self defense I’m pretty sure. I hope this helps!

  • @korimesa1869
    @korimesa1869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1959

    She literally admitted that she did it because she was angry. She’s a murderer 🤷‍♀️

    • @illailla5813
      @illailla5813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      We don’t know what she said in that tale that couldn’t be heard. We just know what they said she said. And they wanted her to say she did it

    • @touchedbygrace
      @touchedbygrace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lenimizukami8188 wait how ? I’m only 2 minutes in

    • @rockstar12346c
      @rockstar12346c 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      But we have no proof of that we only have two peoples word agaisnt hers if she confessed in that room or not

    • @llucyclairee
      @llucyclairee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lenimizukami8188 ?

    • @lenimizukami8188
      @lenimizukami8188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@llucyclairee I’m getting my stories mixed up 🥴😅 yikes! I’m sorry

  • @KitLoveless
    @KitLoveless 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6544

    the way you tell these stories is so captivating

    • @haileymccoy5484
      @haileymccoy5484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      i agree

    • @mytwosense4649
      @mytwosense4649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +164

      I swear I can’t watch nobody else’s true crimes she tells them so genuinely like you can tell she’s not just telling a story to tell it she’s telling it because she cares !

    • @Jaker2123
      @Jaker2123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You should hear Mr Ballen tell stories 😃

    • @krisnsons5967
      @krisnsons5967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yes! Some people are just sooo good! They make it look easy.

    • @ellamayoxoxo9510
      @ellamayoxoxo9510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      She’s my fave true crime youtuber! Kendall and Christina Randall! 🥰💕😍

  • @KelCBabez
    @KelCBabez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Now this is just from my personal experience from being in a DV relationship. As a victim we know we can't fight back or anything in private. So in public it looks as if we're the mean one. But really we're just showing all the built up emotions. I also never spoke to anyone about it. But he constantly talked about me to try to make me look bad or like I deserved it. And I also have went looking for him to come home. They break down your soul and who you are as a person, you depend on them to live. Because they make you believe it. My abuser ended up I prison for being a habitual offender. Who knows what really went on with them though. @Kendall Rae

    • @mackenzietruitt11
      @mackenzietruitt11 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      This. They make you this horrible crazy abuser when they brought you to that point.

    • @nicolecataldo2985
      @nicolecataldo2985 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yes.. when I was listening to this it hit home. I would react more in public because it is almost safer? And yes they know exactly how to trigger the response they want out of you so you look like you are unstable. And even though you want to leave if you’re trauma bonded then you feel like you’re dying without them. It’s a very hard situation for outside people to understand but psychologically your abuser is also the person who comforts you so it makes you feel like you need to be with them to survive. It is just a very sad situation for all of the families involved.

    • @TheOneAbbyLee
      @TheOneAbbyLee ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I did not know that it was a normal part of the DV timeline of abuse to make the victim seem like the one abusing………….That’s where I’m at in the timeline now. 😢💔
      I have called back to back like that too and blown up texts….I even called his mom (asking for advice and wisdom…not to stalk the man. To be clear.) all of that because the last thing he said to me before he left, whispering under his breath…was something like: You’re daughter is f*+\# bc of you. I feel sorry for her with you as her mom.
      I would never, ever harm him or anyone physically. I’m getting out. I am just thinking, why was he so vocal about her hitting him or being crazy? I AM a victim. It’s humiliating to tell others, it’s hard, it’s not like I vent and complain openly that he’s this psycho. I say to everyone he’s going through some hard stuff, but he’s a good person. He just needs help.
      No ONE, no one should be harmed physically. And it’s heart breaking the young man’s life was stolen from him. Again - it is NOT ok to harm anyone, if there was abuse - he did NOT deserve this. If this wasn’t abuse - he did NOT deserve this. So it’s irrelevant really. Just hurts the family overall. So sorry for the young man @ his family. 🤍

    • @RainbowPyramid
      @RainbowPyramid ปีที่แล้ว +6

      People have no idea what goes on behind closed doors

    • @whittydee
      @whittydee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Agreed. My ex was extremely manipulative and a total narcissist. He had everyone convinced I was horrible and abusive to him "behind closed doors" and he would push me and push me and any reactive abuse I had in public he would be like "SEE SHE'S CRAZY?" And then when we got home he'd verbally and mentally assault me, throw things at me or just past me, punch holes in walls, hurt himself to "not hurt me" and threaten me physically. I got out before it escalated any further. I do not think it was right for her to kill him, but it may have truly been in self-defense. It's definitely not something people outside of DV can understand. Your abuser will 100% turn the world against you so no one will ever believe you and paint you as the villain so you are completely ostracized and alone without them. Like forced co-dependency.

  • @beautifulrecovery2337
    @beautifulrecovery2337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3496

    Honestly...first red flag..."they dated on and off for 7 years"

  • @elin_
    @elin_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +477

    She did kill him, So therefore she should AT LEAST get a smaller punishment, and not go completely free from all charges.

    • @Crayola.n
      @Crayola.n 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree. Sounds like the state should have charged her with a lesser charge like man slaughter or something that fits the crime just to a lesser degree than the original charges. If that makes sense. Maybe she wouldn’t have gotten off free as a bird. Definitely deserved to go to prison for this.

    • @paigekrzciok9681
      @paigekrzciok9681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Crayola.n Yeah a lot of times the prosecution doesn’t want to charge with the lesser offense because they are afraid the jury will go with that instead of charging them with straight up murder. But that’s always a risky move because then you have situations that turn out like this.. Where because there wasn’t a lesser offense to charge her with she just gets off with not guilty and no punishment. Should have added some lesser charges for sure!

    • @kesharaa2355
      @kesharaa2355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They didn’t charge her with a lesser crime so she couldn’t be found guilty of anything less than murder.

  • @WhatsAOlivia
    @WhatsAOlivia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +570

    And why would she casually “toss” a gun to him during a fight.... who even casually tosses a gun anyway

    • @rocknreeny
      @rocknreeny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      You make a good point. She claimed she was "abused" by him. Who gives their abuser a weapon?? She's a liar and a murderer.

    • @mere2187
      @mere2187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@rocknreeny Right and who lures the man who abuses them to the house by harassing him. He was clearly trying to leave the toxic relationship.

    • @mere2187
      @mere2187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Hays Lanter She can’t truly believe people would believe she tossed a gun and it went off...into the neck 🤦🏼‍♀️

    • @alyssafitzgerald1613
      @alyssafitzgerald1613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly!!

    • @danadane9287
      @danadane9287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly, that’s a very good point...

  • @sadnesssa
    @sadnesssa ปีที่แล้ว +14

    my birthday is August 1st.. it’s such a weird feeling knowing you were having such a a good day when something horrible was happening to someone else on the same day..

    • @jenniferbullett7254
      @jenniferbullett7254 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think about that as well.

    • @xxjlamariexx
      @xxjlamariexx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My birthday too 😢

  • @suzy8109
    @suzy8109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3519

    Easily the calmest and best storyteller in the true crime genre of TH-cam.

    • @Ellen-hs7zb
      @Ellen-hs7zb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      I agree. Doesn't come off as a gossip session, and no phony affects.

    • @intrepidtomato
      @intrepidtomato 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      With the dog in the background, her voice is borderline ASMR. It's amazing.

    • @meghanhenderson8417
      @meghanhenderson8417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      She’s one of only three that I even bother with on TH-cam. I feel like you could probably guess the other two lol

    • @suzy8109
      @suzy8109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@meghanhenderson8417 I am guessing Bella Fiori and Stephanie Harlowe.

    • @brendazohn1791
      @brendazohn1791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I just found her, this is only my 2nd video, but Christina Randall is really good too. But now I have a new channel to binge on lol.

  • @VLM1313
    @VLM1313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2648

    Truth is truth. If you’re being honest the story doesn’t change. Period.

    • @Maya-dw5jz
      @Maya-dw5jz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      This. She changed the story many times and if what happened was true then she'd be repeating that one story all the time not changing it as she pleases unless there is more information about what happened she remembered but she'd keep the first statements as how it is with added info but she kept changing.

    • @VLM1313
      @VLM1313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@Maya-dw5jz right...she’s edited it in her mind(several times) depending on who she’s speaking with to create a more suitable narrative for this outcome, getting away with it.

    • @annettem6129
      @annettem6129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      I don’t believe the jury made the right decision. She should have been punished for her actions. I don’t even believe she was abused. She made herself the victim. She’ll be judged by her maker when her time comes.

    • @Maya-dw5jz
      @Maya-dw5jz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@VLM1313 I think it may also be with how the information given is seen as like the first statement she gave they didn't believe her so she tried to change it into something believable but again it didn't work. I have worked in jury, and took part in court proceedings and this happens a lot. They try to créâte these scenarios. She should have been convicted becsuse she did murder someone whether or not a mistake or with intention.

    • @enbykenz
      @enbykenz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Trauma can really distort memory actually

  • @Ziaberry
    @Ziaberry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2875

    She grew up around guns, worked in a gun store, and she "accidentally" shot him while passing it over? Yeah, okay.

    • @Ellie_baby
      @Ellie_baby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I'm sure she was terrified to admit she did it. Fear can make you do and say some crazy shit. Not saying she's innocent.. I think they were both toxic to one another and since they didn't separate, it could have been a toss up over who ended up dead.

    • @DasnotCool
      @DasnotCool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@Ellie_baby not really. He was trying to get away from her. He was at a friends house the night if his death and she followed and chased him until she made him come over to the house to eat. He didn’t want to stay with her and she went psycho and shot him. Realized what she did and called the cops. Abusive as he was I 100% think it was a reaction to how she was and he wouldn’t have done shit but leave her as he was trying to do.

    • @andreiaanderson3394
      @andreiaanderson3394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@DasnotCool I was in a situation, wow, almost a year ago now where my ex would CLAIM that he was trying to avoid me. It was weird because I knew we had our problems, but I slowly started to see his friends and relatives treat me very coldly. It wasn’t until I became close with one of his friends that I got told what was being said about me. When I confronted him about it, (around the beginning of Covid), he went to work and took my set of keys and my phone so I couldn’t leave. The doors on our unit locked automatically after they close so he did this knowing that I’d have no way to get back to my belongings or my pets if I chose to leave and no transportation or way to call a friend.
      It was bizarre because for months he pretended I was stalking him, pressuring him to stay with me or being some other shade of unreasonable when in reality I desperately wanted to return to my old apartment complex and live peacefully but feared he would hurt my pets or destroy my belongings in the transition.
      People can really lie hard.

    • @DasnotCool
      @DasnotCool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@andreiaanderson3394 in no way at all is your story related. This dude left her ass and she went psycho. She found out where he was and chased his ass till he stopped and came back home lady. She wanted him home to “work it out” and when he didn’t want to she shot him. Her story is muddled and has changed over 10 times. She’s a liar, a murderer, and a downright pathetic human being who should be behind bars.

    • @misspacino4081
      @misspacino4081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      She ended up saying that he came at her and she went blank that’s when she shot him.

  • @slayqueenaaf
    @slayqueenaaf ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Ok I really have an issue w the statement “there’s no way someone w the trauma Mary claimed to have would be looking up these horrible things” uhm hyper sexuality is VERY real after abuse, trauma does weird things to the brain

  • @NaturalhairwithTati
    @NaturalhairwithTati 3 ปีที่แล้ว +535

    The evidence was that they proved he was sitting down when she shot him so that wasn’t self defense. They obviously had a toxic relationship on both ends but she didn’t have to kill him.

    • @lf9341
      @lf9341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe she sent them from his phone to herself? Kind of like that crazy lady who was sending her bf and herself messages from his exes phone pretending to be the ex.......she could have sent them and then deleted them from his phone so when she was planning on killing him it would be "proof".

    • @juliarose7236
      @juliarose7236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lf9341 I mean, from my understanding you know when the text was sent. It wasn't mentioned that it was sent the night of the murder, so he most likely texted it himself

    • @lf9341
      @lf9341 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juliarose7236 I think she could have been planning to kill him and sent those text maybe weeks or days before possible when he was taking a shower etc. The thought came to my mind due to another case. Pretty easy to do if you are a psycho.

    • @allisonovo
      @allisonovo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lf9341 I’m not saying she’s innocent but I’m pretty sure it’s confirmed the texts are from him, they check all of that with the cell towers and the dates and times and location. either way, she did kill him on purpose. the evidence shows he was sitting down away from her when he was shot, how is that self defense? smh. I don’t think this was planned though, they would’ve been able to see if it was, I mean it’s possible it was planned and nobody knows forsure, but I feel like she would’ve slipped up and they would’ve found evidence of her searching things up on her phone/computer, buying things to plan the murder, actual proof of the messages being sent by her, etc. who knows though, maybe she hid it well and got away with it.

  • @Natjnonsense
    @Natjnonsense 3 ปีที่แล้ว +648

    I’m so happy they didn’t have kids. They were both toxic as hell.

    • @elisaacello592
      @elisaacello592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      omg, yes! ty God!!

    • @obeyamichael1947
      @obeyamichael1947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      They probably were going to later down the line and indirectly directly teach their children how to treat their significant other/let their significant other treat them. Sad AF.

    • @elisaacello592
      @elisaacello592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      oh, for sure..

  • @nicholeowens7847
    @nicholeowens7847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +516

    This is a toxic relationship . But she killed him on purpose.

    • @briahawkins6176
      @briahawkins6176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree!

    • @nicholeowens7847
      @nicholeowens7847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@briahawkins6176 kinda makes me mad that she never served a little jail time for killing him. like a few years atleast.

  • @johnnykotema7197
    @johnnykotema7197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I think that with how they uncovered the information, that this was a terribly toxic relationship. I think if he didn’t pass away, that it’s inevitable that one of them would be dead no matter what.

  • @yohanymedina204
    @yohanymedina204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +412

    It’s obvious they had a very toxic relationship but she still killed him. She is guilty.

    • @lf9341
      @lf9341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Maybe she sent them from his phone to herself? Kind of like that crazy lady who was sending her bf and herself messages from his exes phone pretending to be the ex.......she could have sent them and then deleted them from his phone so when she was planning on killing him it would be "proof".

    • @rebeccav4478
      @rebeccav4478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lf9341 i had that thought... but I'm thinking those texts were recieved at times he was with his friends and had his phone with him?

  • @cynthiahirons1203
    @cynthiahirons1203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1090

    This is so idiotic. She did kill him and if he was sitting on the bed then he was not lunging at her and therefore she was not in danger. It is murder.

    • @melissaharrison3686
      @melissaharrison3686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Exactly. The trajectory shows he was sitting down.

    • @4ironblovksonepumokinheady845
      @4ironblovksonepumokinheady845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Nonetheless there’s no confession tape and not enough proof beyond a reasonable doubt. It’s unfortunate but they were both toxic and certainly had issues.

    • @zookeeperzombxx7031
      @zookeeperzombxx7031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@4ironblovksonepumokinheady845 it still doesn’t justify her shooting him in the chest

    • @tntmebs123
      @tntmebs123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree

    • @nancid.9194
      @nancid.9194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yup! She also had time to load it.

  • @kelliemartin21
    @kelliemartin21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +602

    As someone who is a gun owner a gun doesn’t just “go off”. She killed him, and got away with murder because of those texts he sent a year before. Them losing the confession tape was awful. Both toxic af. Omg, where is she??? I hope she’s not in my state......

    • @BubblemouseM
      @BubblemouseM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Hey! I’m from Ireland and we don’t have guns here (well, debated hahah but definitely not legal) can you explain something to me (you have a gun and obv know more than me), when she said on the 911 call her “gun was tampered” what does that mean exactly? Like is that something that can easily happen?

    • @randomfandom101
      @randomfandom101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@BubblemouseM If the question you are asking is "What does it mean when a gun is tampered?", when something is "tampered with" it means someone else other than her messed with it or "sabatoged" it, hope that helps ^·^

    • @BubblemouseM
      @BubblemouseM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@randomfandom101 OHHHHH thank you! I assumed that’s that she meant in the 911 call but then the “tampering” of the gun was never spoken about after that so I wasn’t sure if, when it came to firearms, “tampering” meant something else! Thank you for your reply :D

    • @randomfandom101
      @randomfandom101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BubblemouseM haha no problem :D

    • @MrsSuperman
      @MrsSuperman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      As someone who's lived through an accidental shooting where it wasn't known there was a bullet in the chamber, it can happen... I don't think it's what happened in this case AT ALL, but it is possible.

  • @sarahweigel4361
    @sarahweigel4361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    i think those texts from steven are definitely enough to raise resonable doubt. sounds like their relationship was really toxic and vioent, but "reactive abuse" is a thing. id probably vote to acquit as well

    • @dannisunshine7228
      @dannisunshine7228 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      My thoughts exactly. This case screams reactive abuse, which also makes sense for why she caved when the detective was yelling and cussing at her.

    • @Mrs.Baker8198
      @Mrs.Baker8198 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I agree with you 100%. He sounds like a narcissist, so of course he would’ve always been playing the victim while smearing her name. Just the wording she used describing everything made me think “reactive abuse!” Honestly, not an excuse to take a life, but I believe self defense.

    • @tinab3627
      @tinab3627 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Even if the audio wasn’t ruined, she could have said that it was a false confession

    • @basteque_
      @basteque_ ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly.

    • @John-oo8dn
      @John-oo8dn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From a year earlier after she banged another guy…nah. The forensics showed she loaded the gun and shot him while he was seated.

  • @katew6765
    @katew6765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1244

    They were both abusive towards eachother, but she definitely shot him on purpose

    • @22161
      @22161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I agree. I was in an abusive marriage for 27 years and he would be the hands on abuser and me the voice. When you are in a toxic relationship your nerves and temper and control can make you do things you normally wouldn't do. You feel like you can't live without them. That no one would want you and you wouldn't be happy with no one else. When it's good it's good but when it's bad it's bad and someone always makes the decision to take the bad one step further. There is always a breaking point ALWAYS.

    • @sashwing7726
      @sashwing7726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thing is the truth might be somewhere in the middle. The girlfriend suffered from a traumatic experience this altered her perception of a health relationship is. The mother comments about her sin being afraid that the girlfriend would commit suicide can be used as proof on what might have happened in the end.

    • @jacquelinefirkins994
      @jacquelinefirkins994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreed but everyone has a limit and the gun should of been removed from the house.

    • @Earlofthearies.1982
      @Earlofthearies.1982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yet who started the abuse?

    • @annmarie6870
      @annmarie6870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They seem happy how sad. Makes me wonder how many people who seem happy are actually crazy

  • @MisKChief
    @MisKChief 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1720

    She’s guilty. Not enough evidence to prove it wasn’t self defense though.

    • @prettykush7924
      @prettykush7924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Her simply lying about how she did it was enough thought and tying to play the sad scared girlfriend who “accidentally “ killed their boyfriend on the 911 call (knowing she was drunk or drinking and she probably killed him out of anger especially if they were arguing which can be proved and boom the motive is there and tbh it’s obvious) etc if it was a domestic violence situation and
      She was at risk or getting beat or something the cops would know she would’ve said that first on the 911 call too.
      I just got further in a video more motive he was gonna leave her ass as he should tbh
      And there’s proof she’s pulled a gun on him before just for a fight this time it just so happened that she killed him. Ik you can’t be re trialed for the same crime buttt shiiitt she needs to be cause she probably gonna do it again .

    • @juliaweber212
      @juliaweber212 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree

    • @jenniferhoff1630
      @jenniferhoff1630 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He was sitting u armed on a bed when shot. All the proof needed right there

    • @amiraa1720
      @amiraa1720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They had all the evidence for how many times she would change her story, and evidence that he was just sitting when she killed him. All evidence that she went after him but NOT GUILTY. I really don’t understand the word no enough evidence.

    • @Veladus
      @Veladus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nailed it. I'm fairly certain she's guilty, but not "beyond a reasonable doubt." Pretty damn close, though.

  • @cvers99
    @cvers99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +439

    I believe he could be abusive, those text messages show that. But in that moment when she shot him, it was solely her killing him out of anger. She got so lucky those cops fucked up with the audio, oh my god. She was guilty.

    • @Kamerenhigdon
      @Kamerenhigdon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      It seems to me that they had some type of BDSM relationship and a lot of his texts seemed more like dom/sub consensual roleplay

    • @sarily626
      @sarily626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Kamerenhigdon I agree. They should've shown the context to the messages from him, and included those specific full conversations

    • @Kamerenhigdon
      @Kamerenhigdon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@sarily626 i’m sure they probably did in trial but i doubt kendall could show them without being demonotized. hard to know without looking into how much was actually released to the public

    • @NeptunesSon1
      @NeptunesSon1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I agree that she was guilty. The grease on the gun proves that she was ready and willing to use it. Unlike most of the other comments on this video, yours is less neutral. If the roles were reversed, everyone of the comments would be against him but due to the fact that it was a female committing the crime, the comments are more neutral.

    • @danieckvw3167
      @danieckvw3167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly, she made the call that she ‘accidentally’ shot him and she was still found not guilty? Bullsh**. Yes he could be abusive but she still shot him. She is guilty.

  • @catspaw3092
    @catspaw3092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Imagine the shocked looks Steve's family's faces when they heard the nasty things he was saying man, I know they were so embarrassed.

    • @glentownsend4980
      @glentownsend4980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      we have all said nasty things one time or another in any given situation. These nasty things didn't mean he should have been killed for them!

    • @wtrzs
      @wtrzs ปีที่แล้ว

      @@glentownsend4980the fact some thing couldnt even be published in the news shows how fucked up most of his texts were. nobody said he deserved to die bc of those texts, ur pulling that bs out ur ass

  • @srandom910
    @srandom910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +611

    She’s guilty, I can’t believe they’d let her get off like that

    • @BlueblueN
      @BlueblueN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      S Random The US justice system is crazy. So many killers walk free and innocent people go to jail. Also everyone and their mother has a gun. I'm so glad I don't live there or I'd be paranoid to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

    • @leilani8658
      @leilani8658 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlueblueN where are you from?

    • @ladystardust111
      @ladystardust111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Shes a pretty little white girl, of course she got away with it 🤬🙄😔

    • @missmew3499
      @missmew3499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlueblueN this is true. But I promise you that our Canadian justice system is worse 😤😤🤬🤬😡😡

    • @jan3d3an6
      @jan3d3an6 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      BOTTOM LINE. She just burned out like so many woman and men. There is some nasty mind fuking people. out there. i hope she is doing okay. pleaese do not get involved with any other men in a relationship and yes, when someone says they shot ...it can happen self defense

  • @miajmosley
    @miajmosley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +838

    I was in a relationship with someone that made everyone believe I was doing things to him but he was extremely abusive to me but none of his friends took the time to hear me out because of the idea that he already put in their head

    • @nayshkamariel
      @nayshkamariel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      exactlyyyyy !!

    • @anishastrunk3471
      @anishastrunk3471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Been there.

    • @mimilee7696
      @mimilee7696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Sounds like my ex-husband.

    • @gardneri6390
      @gardneri6390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      i definitely think their abuse went both ways but the prosecutors defenses of “a victim wouldnt do this” is absolutely disgusting.

    • @NT-bz5nh
      @NT-bz5nh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@hermoinekatz9879 do not take him back. Let him go. Hes not worth the tears.

  • @cassidyxandersonn7073
    @cassidyxandersonn7073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +733

    not to mention, if she shot him with her glock, they do not have a safety lock, they have a safety trigger so you REALLY have to pull the trigger on a glock to shoot it. that’s no accident.

    • @ViolentNightshade
      @ViolentNightshade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Even just having her finger on the trigger in order to “accidentally” squeeze it, to me proves her intent to harm. Gun safety is never pointing a gun at someone unless you intend to shoot them, when you’re pointing a gun at someone with your finger on the trigger, it’s pretty obvious how that’s going to end.

    • @lauda6945
      @lauda6945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Was thinking this exactly!

    • @yrozord
      @yrozord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ViolentNightshade also pointing at someone a fake gun is still not ok

    • @christenm3200
      @christenm3200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ViolentNightshade Thank you. The VERY first safety rule you are taught surrounding firearms is that they are NEVER pointed at someone unless you intend to shoot. She would have known that. Guilty af.

    • @kikiprimavera9203
      @kikiprimavera9203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ViolentNightshade I know nothing about guns, however your explanation makes, simple logic sense to me. Yes, she is guilty of pulling the trigger.
      In my moral book, I call an accident, when a glass slips off my hand and breaks

  • @tiffanysowards7787
    @tiffanysowards7787 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    My past always clouds my judgement on these cases. As a domestic violence survivor, no matter how much I've healed, I feel like I'll always be like, "If it wasn't him, it would've been her.".

  • @kim-in4qo
    @kim-in4qo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1509

    imagine how bad the mom feels bc she’s the one who told Mary Katherine where he was.

    • @briannas8806
      @briannas8806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Omg I was thinking that. If only she would’ve never answered .

    • @nataliac.m.1775
      @nataliac.m.1775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@briannas8806 yeah if only... I guess you dont expect her to go and kill your son. What a fucking monster this Mary Katherine is

    • @melaniedavis6989
      @melaniedavis6989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      How does she feel about NOT knowing her son was a violent wife beater?

    • @kim-in4qo
      @kim-in4qo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@melaniedavis6989 I don’t remember the video

    • @haydenh3015
      @haydenh3015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@melaniedavis6989 It was stated in the video that she was distraught about that too.

  • @katiemoore8154
    @katiemoore8154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +544

    EMT here! We aren’t actually trained in what to do when it comes to ‘crime scenes’. We are just taught to remove danger quickly so we can approach and perform life saving treatment. It’s a very grey area unfortunately. We’d see it more as giving us and other members of the public safety by removing or moving a weapon

    • @dillydawgdillon8912
      @dillydawgdillon8912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Well stop...she could be in jail rn

    • @nina.robbs565
      @nina.robbs565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@dillydawgdillon8912 they were just following what they were instructed to do.

    • @duvalpenny100
      @duvalpenny100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@dillydawgdillon8912 keep in mind The boy was still alive at the time. The main thing they're concerned about preserving is that boy's life, not a crime scene.

    • @Itsadewsy
      @Itsadewsy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@dillydawgdillon8912 no. The police move them too. Victim’s safety and emergency first. It’s actually the first thing we are trained to do on scenes like this at the police department.

    • @lize4201
      @lize4201 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nina.robbs565 look

  • @smartwater10
    @smartwater10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +290

    Either way, she took a life. And it wasn’t in self defense since he was sitting down. If that was my son, I would be absolutely devastated with the lack of justice.

    • @reesestark6004
      @reesestark6004 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This!!! I agree 100%! How is it "self defense" when he's sitting down and she's standing!!

  • @kimberlyelliott7933
    @kimberlyelliott7933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have officially binge watched you all day today

  • @ladycwin07
    @ladycwin07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +791

    That lil doggy just laying up living the life we all deserve... just chilling and listening to a good ole murderous story. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

    • @ToxicAfricanKing
      @ToxicAfricanKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol

    • @angelawall9676
      @angelawall9676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      For ages I thought it was a teddy 😂😂

    • @robloxgacha9177
      @robloxgacha9177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol is humans don’t deserve anything

    • @jodiefeighner8685
      @jodiefeighner8685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      At the beginning of the video it was a cat...magic faster than the eye can see. lol

    • @ladycwin07
      @ladycwin07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol I see the cat now 🤣🤣🤣

  • @xOMGZLAURA
    @xOMGZLAURA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1083

    ‘She was an animal lover’
    Also dragged a frog around with a shoelace, hunted animals, and police were involved with animal cases
    Okayyy

    • @peachyqueen4399
      @peachyqueen4399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      I understand the other two, but where's the issue with hunting animals? I hunt. It's proven to be a quicker & more ethical death for the animal that any of the meat you buy from your grocery.

    • @xOMGZLAURA
      @xOMGZLAURA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      Peachy Queen I don’t know it she hunted for meat or ‘sport’ but even if it was to eat, why kill more innocent animals than what are already being killed in the meat industry? I’m English by the way so our attitude to hunting (and gun ownership) is very different to Americans..:

    • @nibekus
      @nibekus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      @@peachyqueen4399 Ethical death towards an animal is any oxymoron. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @peachyqueen4399
      @peachyqueen4399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@nibekus THAT is your only response? That wasn't even worth the likely 7 seconds it took to type. It added absolutely nothing to this conversation.

    • @nibekus
      @nibekus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@peachyqueen4399 Is something morally justified because it's a personal choice? If someone chooses to abuse a dog or a human, they've personally chosen to do that but it's not morally justified. What about the personal choice of the animals? They would never choose to be killed for us. They don't want to end up on our dinner plate. So what about their personal choice to not live a life of human-inflicted exploitation and death.

  • @littlemisssunshine890
    @littlemisssunshine890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2597

    She’s guilty. She made him come home, and he was sitting when she shot him. If he abused her, why did she go and make him come home?

    • @sandraharris2308
      @sandraharris2308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Exactly, that was some jury

    • @mariacastillo3090
      @mariacastillo3090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Sooo pissed at the jurors.

    • @jessicavangenderen6540
      @jessicavangenderen6540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      That's an excellent question. Absolutely ridiculous that she got away with this.

    • @robertleclair5336
      @robertleclair5336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yeah she's the murderer

    • @n.hj0079
      @n.hj0079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      She could of been pushed to that moment

  • @courtneyleigh-anneunderwoo2255
    @courtneyleigh-anneunderwoo2255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This story is so sad. This could have easily been my story. Toxic relationships are so twisted, confusing, and difficult. I'm so grateful I was able to get away from the toxic relationship i was in when i was younger. I was in a relationship where it started out with mild "back and forth" pettiness and it caused both of us to both become more toxic towards each other. I consider myself a pretty decent person over all, but its easy to become someone you dont even recognize under manipulative circumstances.

  • @amandacharlebois9295
    @amandacharlebois9295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    They were in an extremely toxic relationship, and I think she did kill him on purpose, but I don’t think there was enough proof. The shittiest type of case.

    • @rehanne18
      @rehanne18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree

    • @maryevelyn3059
      @maryevelyn3059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cops definitely screwed up not getting her confession recorded.

    • @michalvarado1651
      @michalvarado1651 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. But I think she should've been sentenced to jail at least 3 years.

  • @karlypearl9701
    @karlypearl9701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +333

    Sounds like they were in a terrible relationship. They were both wrong in their treatment of eachother.
    But she killed him. After threating to kill him multiple times.
    So.

    • @leethomas2683
      @leethomas2683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Mo Elm the text messages

    • @Feefs18
      @Feefs18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Mo Elm stop trying to sound objective or play them down. those texts proved some abuse on his end. i

    • @mollyg6042
      @mollyg6042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Mo Elm no one said that justifies murder. Just proves he was abusive as well as she was. She’s guilty of murder definitely, but he still was abusive. It’s not like he couldn’t have been abusive and been murdered in the same token.

    • @nickinguyen8550
      @nickinguyen8550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Mo Elm what the messages proved was that they were both at the very least verbally abusive to one another. Whether or not the abuse was actually physical we can’t know for sure.

  • @mackinzielizabeth872
    @mackinzielizabeth872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +618

    the fact that she was able to work with children as a teacher assistant terrifies me

    • @sandyavalos3305
      @sandyavalos3305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ikr. Her way of being reminds me of someone that acts like her.

    • @dude7937
      @dude7937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      As a former teachers assistant they didn’t drug test any teachers or assistants in my district. Let’s alone do a psych evaluation. They’re desperate.

    • @mackinzielizabeth872
      @mackinzielizabeth872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dude7937 my mom used to work at an urgent care that did drug testing for the school district and other companies but they never had to drug test the bus drivers

    • @CatAlkirePhotography
      @CatAlkirePhotography 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The public school system in general terrifies me. There are a lot of psychopaths teaching children right now.

    • @davelowesky8054
      @davelowesky8054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mackinzielizabeth872 you’re a moron if you think bus drivers don’t get drug tested.

  • @niciaharris2409
    @niciaharris2409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    if my son wrote me that note i would cry my eyes out 😭😭 that man was born with a pure heart

  • @kbearusc
    @kbearusc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +583

    If she claims he lunged at her when she shot when they proved he was sitting down when he was shot totally disproves self defense in that moment. Whether all the other stuff is true or not the moment he was shot he was sitting on his bed. That's murder not self defense.

    • @kelseymercury8779
      @kelseymercury8779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      100%

    • @carolinalobato645
      @carolinalobato645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      THIS!!

    • @MFnMelaroni
      @MFnMelaroni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      100% the rest of it didn't matter, it's what she did in that moment

    • @shortnsweet1980
      @shortnsweet1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. Forensic evidence proved her story was false. You're on it Kristen LR ! I can't believe she got off. Definitely didn't seem like a healthy relationship either way but justice wasn't served.

  • @Condesamontes
    @Condesamontes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2014

    Rule one: Treat every firearm as if it’s loaded with one in the chamber.

    • @breanna8183
      @breanna8183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      yeah and if she’s so into guns and “knows everything” then why wouldn’t she know the literal most important rule i’ve known since i could talk

    • @PokyLilWolfPup
      @PokyLilWolfPup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Right ?! It’s legit one of the first couple rules in gun safety. One would think it’s common knowledge (and common sense lol) but I got in a dumbass argument with some popular model on Instagram that posted a bunch of videos and photos trying to be cool by pointing a loaded fucking gun at the cameraman. When I pointed out why it’s not safe to do so, she argued with me, tried to deny it when her cameraman had a literal picture of her pointing the gun directly at him, tried to sick her crew against me, and ofc ended up deleting all the comments; and I’m still salty about it because it’s so lame that someone is so delusional, surrounded by “yes men”, and has the narcissistic trait of never wanting to be wrong even when they’re provided with evidence disproving their argument 🤦‍♀️

    • @tsmith3286
      @tsmith3286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Once you are 100% sure the gun is empty then you still don’t point it ever!!!!!

    • @PokyLilWolfPup
      @PokyLilWolfPup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@tsmith3286 exactly, unless you’re okay with murdering whoever you point it at 🥴

    • @alexhalliday2666
      @alexhalliday2666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This. Also, most sensible people would check the safety is on before handing one over if its not an emergency

  • @_crestfallen_
    @_crestfallen_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    In the 911 call, she says she "accidentally shot her boyfriend" and that she is "so sorry." How does one accidentally shoot someone if it's self-defense?

    • @mortyjansen399
      @mortyjansen399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dont you just hate when that happens to you all the time. I do. It such a drag.

    • @CelleSleuths
      @CelleSleuths 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She said "accidentally shot him in the neck"... maybe shooting him in the neck was the accident part.. maybe she was going for his arm

    • @thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527
      @thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was sitting down on a bed so I don’t know what she’d be defending herself from

  • @amberpilcher9599
    @amberpilcher9599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I believe she is guilty, my heart breaks for Steven's family! She got away with murder!

  • @marisaguerreroRN
    @marisaguerreroRN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +612

    Crazy to me how police stations don't have the best of the best when it comes to video and audio equipment. These confession videos should be in HD.

    • @Gaius_Sinstone
      @Gaius_Sinstone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Griffin GA is a tiiiny ass town, i’d be surprised if they’re not still recording on tapes

    • @rootsm3
      @rootsm3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      They blow so much money on these souped up Ford Chargers I’m sure they totally disregard their AV systems.

    • @darthphilfy
      @darthphilfy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well judging by your health care system it is a third world country.

    • @emilylandreth3098
      @emilylandreth3098 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      go pro police confessions

    • @MFnMelaroni
      @MFnMelaroni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rootsm3 No, some of these stations just don't have the budget. That's just not how it works. There's an entire commissioning agency that decides where that money goes and sometimes the money just isn't there.

  • @notthegoodgirl
    @notthegoodgirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    At the end of the day, we haven't seen all the evidence because over 60 pages of his text messages were so vulgar they couldn't be released to the public - that is *very* telling. I go back and forth because they *both* seem incredibly toxic, but she does seem like a victim of domestic abuse. I do think she should've at least been charged with manslaughter, but that's only from what we know about this case - which as we've seen, is very little. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Great video - loved that you put in more pics and video from the case. Your puppy is precious and you look gorgeous! Stay safe everyone.

    • @lf9341
      @lf9341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think she set him up. I also think she "sent" those messages from his phone so she can have an alibi and say he was abusive. Reminds me of a case where a woman did that.

    • @allisonovo
      @allisonovo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@lf9341 they don’t just bring screenshots in the courtroom and believe it’s real evidence. they check with the cell towers, the times, the dates, the locations, etc. they would’ve been able to tell if the texts were sent from her and if they had been deleted or not. They do a forensic analysis on all technology involved in cases where it’s present, they even brought up her search history when she babysat for someone. I’m seeing your comment under everyone else’s and I’m just letting you know it doesn’t work like that. just how they were able to tell the messages were sent from that “crazy lady” in that case you’re talking about and in so many other cases, they would’ve been able to tell in this case as well. those messages dated back weeks and months from him, they were obviously real. so real that many of the texts couldn’t be released, both of them are guilty for being toxic and abusive, he shouldn’t have died of course, she should’ve let him go and be with his friends. it’s a tough case honestly.

    • @ljuben5738
      @ljuben5738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@lf9341 So you think for an entire year before the murder she kept sending such messages from his phone to set up her story so far ahead in advance? And he never noticed those messages on his own phone?

    • @lf9341
      @lf9341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ljuben5738 It's easy to erase the messages after you hit send so he would not know it was from his phone. Just another perception. If you are capable of murder you are capable of anything psychotic.

    • @TheGrumpyGinger
      @TheGrumpyGinger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know right. We should all murder people who send us vulgar texts

  • @sad_dad
    @sad_dad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    I think it’s bs she didn’t get charged. She shot him. Ended his life. I feel for his family I really do

    • @xosecox12
      @xosecox12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Agreed. If she was a male she would have been charged and I say this as a female myself. Phil Spector rightfully went to prison despite claiming the shooting was all an accident because it was murder and it didn’t add up. Same should have applied to her.

    • @ClaraP23
      @ClaraP23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xosecox12 agreed 🙌🏼

  • @ashleyauvaa
    @ashleyauvaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The truth never changes but a liar changes their story so many times. She did it. Ugh I hate this.

  • @iamsofia3782
    @iamsofia3782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    Can't imagine how his mom feels for telling this girl his son's location...

    • @kittencaboodle24
      @kittencaboodle24 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh my goodness, I didn't even think of that 😢

  • @beccalynn3879
    @beccalynn3879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    I think she’s guilty, she pulled a gun on him a few times, so why would this last time be a “accident”? Yes the gun was messed with at the scene but there was proof that it was loaded after dinner and I’m sure they didn’t use that in the case even though it was messed with but still. And if she tracked him and was acting a psycho that night he died. I’ve seen domestic violence like that, there is no “accident” in domestic violence

  • @laurajimenez7878
    @laurajimenez7878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    The dogs sleeping in the background is such a plus to this channel he’s so calm😭😭😍

    • @BlueblueN
      @BlueblueN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Laura Jimenez and super cute

  • @lailaes802
    @lailaes802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The friends testimony about the victim can't be taken 100% to heart because a man with his male friends isn't the same with his gf

  • @astrowolvez
    @astrowolvez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    Man, if you have a man go to his guy friends and tell them all he's being abused, then something serious is going on. Because unfortunately of how masculinity is viewed, many men will hide that.

  • @alisse4175
    @alisse4175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +918

    The text messages he sent to her are terrifying and some of the people in the comments are sympathizing too much with him. He was a dirt bag. She was also terrible and definitely shouldn’t have killed him but good lord.

    • @BiiMesiah
      @BiiMesiah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      I agree, those messages are incredibly disturbuing, and are not the same as "reacting out of anger/hurt." It's just as disgusting as when the girl said "he pushed her to overreact". They are both abusive.

    • @mizzypink8
      @mizzypink8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I agree

    • @lf9341
      @lf9341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Maybe she sent them from his phone to herself? Kind of like that crazy lady who was sending her bf and herself messages.......she could have sent them and then deleted them from his phone so when she was planning on killing him it would be "proof".

    • @allisonovo
      @allisonovo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@lf9341 they don’t just bring screenshots in the courtroom and believe it’s real evidence. they check with the cell towers, the times, the dates, the locations, etc. they would’ve been able to tell if the texts were sent from her and if they had been deleted or not. They do a forensic analysis on all technology involved in cases where it’s present, they even brought up her search history when she babysat for someone. I’m seeing your comment under everyone else’s and I’m just letting you know it doesn’t work like that. just how they were able to tell the messages were sent from that “crazy lady” in that case you’re talking about and in so many other cases, they would’ve been able to tell in this case as well. those messages dated back weeks and months from him, they were obviously real. so real that many of the texts couldn’t be released, both of them are guilty for being toxic and abusive, he shouldn’t have died of course, she should’ve let him go and be with his friends. it’s a tough case honestly.

    • @scarlettokeeffe9777
      @scarlettokeeffe9777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@lf9341 how would she have known years before that she was going to kill him

  • @TheWholeEntireCake
    @TheWholeEntireCake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    I genuinely can’t comprehend how people still try to use the “accidental trigger” excuse. This is not the movies nor is it a Hollywood TV series, there’s a pressure value that has to be met for the trigger to pull. Pounds of pressure.

    • @yourmotherbitch2434
      @yourmotherbitch2434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      literally!!! guns don’t ever go off for no reason, even if you drop it guns are manufactured to not go off-

  • @billyraycyree3785
    @billyraycyree3785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Totally guilty, but they tampered with evidence and messed up the confession so the jury made the right call.

  • @kikialdrich4574
    @kikialdrich4574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +362

    This is totally not related to the case at all, but Kendall your hair looks so pretty in this video. I need to figure out how to get those curls. Now back to the story.

    • @carisahtomas1574
      @carisahtomas1574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      try a big barrel curling iron..... for really tight curls i use a wand... but these curls are pretty loose

    • @emaleeclaire9238
      @emaleeclaire9238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I use a curling wand, spray my hair with hairspray, and then brush all the curls out! I think a big barrel curling iron would work well too

    • @Itsmemommio
      @Itsmemommio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was going to comment the same thing. Her hair looks so dang good in this video.

    • @sarahholland2600
      @sarahholland2600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Curling irons etc fry your hair & make the ends frizzy & damaged. Use heated rollers . Or, put in foam rollers on nearly dry hair & leave for 1hour minimum. Your hairs condition will improve noticeably.

    • @dianeparr2483
      @dianeparr2483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And.... The green top coordinates with the wall color!!! Regarding the case, she's guilty AF!!!!-

  • @keiryruiz5116
    @keiryruiz5116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    I think she’s guilty because why would she change her story SO MANY TIMES and I don’t believe it was self-defense they should have charged her with something. Who’s to say she won’t do it again?

    • @keiryruiz5116
      @keiryruiz5116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@DarkAngel71180 First of all I never disrespected you in anyway so please watch your mouth and second of all I know that when it is self defense they don’t charge the victim which is why I said that I didn’t believe it was self defense

  • @DangerWifeDodd
    @DangerWifeDodd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    i feel like she's guilty but i'm not seeing enough evidence to convict. And how do they not have a back up recording?!?!

    • @bjj9711
      @bjj9711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😆😂😆. That's crazy talk. I've watched hundreds of these type of videos and this is the worst case of injustice ive come across. The other day a police officer killed a women and got 7 t 10 years. I thought that was terrible. This is worse

  • @maricszb03
    @maricszb03 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I dated someone that was extremely toxic and pushed me to the edge all the time. He made me look like a crazy jealous person to his friends and family. I’m not saying she wasn’t guilty but he probably drove her crazy! We never know what happens behind closed doors

  • @-e-5341
    @-e-5341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    i love how her pets are just chilling in the background. They're adorable.

    • @Rowm222
      @Rowm222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      IKR!! You can tell they’re so loved, they just lounge around so cozy lookin. 😭

  • @nanakwaku
    @nanakwaku 3 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    Granted, he was toxic too - BUT SHE KILLED HIM - KILLED HIM and she's let off the hook????

    • @mememe217
      @mememe217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      RIGHT!!!!!! Wtfffffff

    • @libby8269
      @libby8269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not only that. She chased him down and killed him

    • @maijashea
      @maijashea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And he was toxic because she cheated on him. Not saying his actions were justified but comparing her to a dead fish when she had cheated does not justify MURDER. I wish that confession hadn’t been corrupted

  • @hannahroznowski
    @hannahroznowski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    Regardless if it was an "accident" she was angry.. and shot him. Guilty.

    • @zacharycoltrane3128
      @zacharycoltrane3128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right

    • @inesmachado3592
      @inesmachado3592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      THIS

    • @raofabdullah
      @raofabdullah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its cases by cases if were talking about accident. but in this one so many evidence point to her as being guilty

    • @therandomgirl5590
      @therandomgirl5590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s because there was evidence of him being abusive, and she was claiming self defense and there wasn’t enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt so the jury ruled in favor of self defense

  • @Kokopuffs27
    @Kokopuffs27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New to your Channel and I can’t get enough!! I’ve been on light duty at work working alone and I put on your videos on all day.

  • @kelsxo4289
    @kelsxo4289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +863

    This was definitely a mutually abusive relationship, but I absolutely think she shot him on purpose. The man still died, to get away with no chargers at all blows my mind.

    • @mar-k7104
      @mar-k7104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      There’s no such thing as mutual abuse, just two toxic people in a toxic relationship.

    • @philosop.HER_
      @philosop.HER_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@mar-k7104 Kind of the same difference

    • @mar-k7104
      @mar-k7104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@philosop.HER_ no, it’s *really* not. Abuse implies a heavy power imbalance between an abuser and victim.

    • @lt.ripley1590
      @lt.ripley1590 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mar-k7104 WHO CARES? Stop arguing over details that don't matter. What matters is a vile woman got away with killing a human being.

    • @Uchiha.Itachii
      @Uchiha.Itachii ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don’t think it was on purpose I think she did it out of anger and didn’t think at all, and just saw red. Cause I have been in that place myself where I would want to hurt my ex/bf really bad because of how he treated me sometimes

  • @paigelarson9279
    @paigelarson9279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +577

    They both sound like trash, but she definitely intentionally killed him.

    • @morgansmith8833
      @morgansmith8833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      He wasn't trash

    • @morganknapp2917
      @morganknapp2917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@morgansmith8833 Did you even see the messages he sent her? They both were not good to eachother. Doesn't make up for the fact she murdered him, but he wasn't an angel.

    • @kayleemariee239
      @kayleemariee239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@morgansmith8833 he was awful. no reason to murder him though.

    • @cherryblossom9472
      @cherryblossom9472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@morgansmith8833 he wasn’t the best person. Doesn’t mean it’s ok for him to get murdered but based off the texts he sent, he was trash! Sorry but the facts are there

    • @morgansmith8833
      @morgansmith8833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@morganknapp2917 so have you ever said anything you regretted in ange before? Also did you know him? Bc anyone who did knew who Steven really was. Just because he was in a toxic relationship doesn't mean he was a bad person

  • @mommabearkmdm5600
    @mommabearkmdm5600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +413

    Don't mean to be a smarty pants but how the heck did you get your blouse to match so perfectly with the paint on your wall? You are beautiful as always and its a great color on you!!

    • @SarahDanielle10
      @SarahDanielle10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Am I crazy or is the background more blue looking in the other videos without the green shirt?

    • @lindasullivan2780
      @lindasullivan2780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is!

    • @jaypauladunne4033
      @jaypauladunne4033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🇨🇮🇨🇮 Ireland needs you Kendell you got it going on with the Green

    • @auriem13
      @auriem13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kendall looks beautiful

    • @staceykersting705
      @staceykersting705 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The EYES have it! Too gorgeous!

  • @cecilialugo6188
    @cecilialugo6188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A killer was set free ....anger conjures up devilish actions.....injustice for that young man , doesn't make sense

  • @theekmac4719
    @theekmac4719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Side note, seeing that sleepy puppy behind you sleeping just melts my heart.

    • @danadane9287
      @danadane9287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Seriously!!! So stinkin cute!!!

    • @NunyaNomi
      @NunyaNomi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s amazing how much our pets can sleep

    • @raofabdullah
      @raofabdullah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      her mic is also pretty good

  • @audreyturner5122
    @audreyturner5122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    They were both very toxic. But still...Whenever there's a case like this, where domestic violence is involved, it is hard for me to come to a conclusion. What I can say for certain though, is that changing the story 10 times, is very suspicious 🤷

  • @andreawhite6585
    @andreawhite6585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +368

    I live in Georgia. We own many guns. You don’t “accidentally” shoot someone when you’re supposed to be an expert gun owner. And usually gun owners ALWAYS have a loaded gun nearby bc it’s for protection. If someone breaks in you don’t have time to get a gun out of a safe, then load it, then protect yourself... no. Idk man. It sucks.

    • @rachelr.n.3563
      @rachelr.n.3563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm from Georgia too! Us folks here in the South know our guns

    • @MG-oc2us
      @MG-oc2us 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I thought the exact same thought! How tf would you accidentally pull a trigger?! Stuff like this just doesn't happen. Guns don’t shoot people on their own. Other people do.

    • @MG-oc2us
      @MG-oc2us 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      + you ALWAYS check if the gun is loaded or not if you are handling it to someone... that’s gun safety 101.

    • @susiefoxy8130
      @susiefoxy8130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There seems to be a lot of accidental shootings in the US. Never happens in the UK as most people do not own a gun.

    • @missameowica
      @missameowica 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@susiefoxy8130 There are 4 rules of gun ownership that responsible gun owners abide by. You have them in your head AT ALL TIMES because guns aren’t toys, they’re for safety.
      This whole story is... off.

  • @brandyfaceylarche3562
    @brandyfaceylarche3562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve been in an abusive marriage with a narcissist that constantly gaslighted me and broke me down but came off as the nicest man in the world. It cause a toxic co-dependency with the abuser, cant stand the abuse but can’t be without the abuser. Also, victims of violent sexual acts often use graphic pornography and fantasies to help dissociate the actual events they suffered.

  • @janeconquest
    @janeconquest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    Ignoring the fact she chased him in her car, so she was looking up violent adult content to "please" him the same night she planned to break up with him? Too many contradictions.

    • @PuertoRicanqueen90
      @PuertoRicanqueen90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly

    • @Spiddal_mary
      @Spiddal_mary 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      And made him a whole entire dinner? Was she gonna break up with during dinner?

    • @angiecats5298
      @angiecats5298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It’s not contradictory at all, she was clearly being abused but couldn’t leave him and he clearly couldn’t leave her either even though he didn’t want to be with her. She made him his favourite dinner to make him happy, she even was going to go out of her way to let him abuse her sexually to make him happy.. this is what happens when you’re being abused.

    • @carriecagnon411
      @carriecagnon411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@angiecats5298 as someone who has been in an abusive relationship and got out, I can tell you that what you described is not always how it is. Some domestic abuse victims do get out and live relatively healthy lives, some turn into murderers, and others turn into the victims of murder. It's not clear cut across the board. Also, in my opinion the story was extremely contradictory given she was chasing him and his friend down in a vehicle, yet was so terrified of him and was breaking up with him that night. The original call said "I accidentally shot my boyfriend" as well, and it was only changed to self defense after her defense team knew that her confession tape was not usable. At the point where a life was taken and there was that much evidence but the nail in the coffin was not usable I get why the jurors made the decision they made. Unfortunately that family doesn't get justice for an obvious murder because of the failures of first responders and the interrogation team. Justice was not served and she should consider herself lucky to have had that evidence be screwed up because that would have landed her in jail had they not screwed it up.

    • @overlordkartoffelkopf4108
      @overlordkartoffelkopf4108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@carriecagnon411 As someone who has also been in an abusive relationship, I don't think it's contradictory at all. Some abusive relationships can make the abused person become extremely toxic as well as it gives them some semblance of control in the relationship.

  • @katyhofmann1259
    @katyhofmann1259 3 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Guilty! Can't believe she got away with a clean slate. This is so disturbing

  • @mars7493
    @mars7493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1911

    “he still had a pulse but sadly died at midnigh-“
    the people in the ads: 💃🏼🕺🏻

    • @oliviathornell342
      @oliviathornell342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      The comericals be doing too much. Frl. Like can't watch anything serious

    • @mars7493
      @mars7493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      when i’m weeping over the death of a child i really don’t want to know how to make a quick and spicy chicken fajita

    • @rachwilliams3118
      @rachwilliams3118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@mars7493 lmfaoooo fr

    • @bonniehumble4545
      @bonniehumble4545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Right... hahaha

    • @cherrymetha3185
      @cherrymetha3185 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mars7493 👍🏻

  • @ashleighparish9127
    @ashleighparish9127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can’t believe this she was so guilty, she said on the 911 call that it was an accident, but then claimed self defense, why wouldn’t she have said that she shot him in self defense on the phone with 911 operators

  • @evelynperez9093
    @evelynperez9093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    im so mad.. she is so guilty. MA'AM I'm trying to go to bed but now im gonna be thinking about this case

    • @manchestermania9873
      @manchestermania9873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      exactly im so upset shes so guilty

    • @Kristy0780
      @Kristy0780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ditto!!! Agree with Evelyn!!! 🤯🤔🥱😵

    • @manchestermania9873
      @manchestermania9873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@buttcheeksunite theres witnesses she was the abuser towards him but why are u taking her word only she has no witnesses and used that defense to get away with murder

    • @manchestermania9873
      @manchestermania9873 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @SpaceWolf who’s Steven lol?

    • @manchestermania9873
      @manchestermania9873 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @SpaceWolf oh lol been a while I forgot his name so I was confused

  • @haley2684
    @haley2684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Stephen's friends are real ones. The fact that they testified for him like that is amazing.

  • @jasonhorton
    @jasonhorton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2168

    Was about to go to sleep but why do that when I can obsess over this?

  • @hunterwoodall3233
    @hunterwoodall3233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    He was literally sitting on the edge of the bed when she shot him so how tf was he apparently “lunging” at him?! This case makes me so angry. I do believe he was abusive but she was too. It was a very toxic relationship. He didn’t deserve to die though. Like if it’s THAT bad and you’re so scared that you have to pull a gun on him multiple times, why was she always making him come home and not letting him break up with her?

  • @natashamcglynn1995
    @natashamcglynn1995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    There IS such a thing as a mutually abusive relationships and this seems like one.

    • @lynne1517
      @lynne1517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They both clearly brought the very worst out of each other x

    • @KayCeeTX21
      @KayCeeTX21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed. It’s not an excuse to kill someone. However...this level of toxicity leads to tragic and terrible outcomes. The things we say to one another can have devastating results. This Was the culmination. I’m so sad for his family. I don’t think she should have gotten off entirely. There was at the very least a case for manslaughter. I have seen women who have documented cases of savage abuse from their partners, clear cases of self defense and they were still charged with murder and given hefty jail sentences. It’s all terrible. I wish couples could take the hint that HEY! We don’t bring out anything good in each other. Let’s get out of this before someone gets truly hurt....wishful thinking for a more perfect world. Sad.

    • @xosecox12
      @xosecox12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely! The neighbors across from me were in one. They attacked each other physically, not in self-defense, and would threaten each other. They are horrifying relationships to witness. There is no side you can take. Two toxic and abusive people fighting for power.

    • @xosecox12
      @xosecox12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KayCeeTX21 unfortunately these kinds of relationships leave both people feeling trapped just not in the same way as one-way abusive relationships. When both are abusive, each one wants to get the last word and have the “power” in the relationship. The anger can turn into complete obsession. It’s scary as hell to witness. My neighbors have come close to killing each other and the police tried so hard but they couldn’t keep them away from each other

  • @cordelia7830
    @cordelia7830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    Miss Ma’am is sniffling and crying but has no tears with dead eyes. Girl, be a better actress AT LEAST

    • @ciaravalenzuela2467
      @ciaravalenzuela2467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I noticed that too. So fake

    • @gwen08g
      @gwen08g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's what I was thinking! He did text her some BS though. Sounds like they were both ridiculous!

    • @shelbywhitaker8279
      @shelbywhitaker8279 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My exact thoughts. I still have monster tears when talking about my past. Not fake cry.

  • @marcibarnett9944
    @marcibarnett9944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +539

    I recently found Kendall and I’ve been binge watching. I’m addicted.

    • @nikkijohnson1455
      @nikkijohnson1455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I love Kendall too!! If you like true crime you should look up Christina Randall. Her introduction is a bit off putting at first but after three or four videos in you're like saying it with her like it's a catchy tune ha!

    • @jadebriggs8958
      @jadebriggs8958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Elenor Neale is a good one too and is from the uk 😊

    • @lizhunter3998
      @lizhunter3998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too

    • @caitlinkornilov3278
      @caitlinkornilov3278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same girl, same :)

    • @annmarie6870
      @annmarie6870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha me to

  • @Earlofthearies.1982
    @Earlofthearies.1982 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how she expose police mess ups.

  • @aubomatic19
    @aubomatic19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    They were both sucky partners. Sad they couldn’t come to terms with it. She definitely killed him, but not enough evidence to convict her.

  • @squeakybeak7832
    @squeakybeak7832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    "Mary loved animals (she once tied a shoelace to a frog and forced it around the neighborhood...) and she loved to hunt animals" I already am suspicious of and not liking Mary. 2:21 in

    • @commonsense571
      @commonsense571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Was looking forward this comment! I thought exactly the same thing!

    • @crimetimeAU
      @crimetimeAU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      so true! I'm sure the frog loved being walked around the neighbourhood on a leash. They didn't mention it died, which would be highly likely since frogs shouldn't really be over handled.

  • @Jess-jt4zf
    @Jess-jt4zf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Off topic but I love it when they fall asleep like that, just nodding off... So cute... My heart literally melts. 03:36

  • @JaclynKovach
    @JaclynKovach 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With those texts he sent, there's absolutely no way I could have just found her guilty.

  • @jessicafaith125
    @jessicafaith125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +349

    She’s guilty. Jury made the wrong call 100%.

    • @lilgass7648
      @lilgass7648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes. Men go through abuse too

    • @a2point083
      @a2point083 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lilgass7648 yea but no one here said they didnt

    • @lilgass7648
      @lilgass7648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@a2point083 I mean obviously otherwise this comment would be under that post. Did you wake up and chose to try and start an argument over the internet because I was literally making a comment based on the lowkey bias I felt from the jury in agreement with the statement the person who’s comment I commented on. Duh.

    • @PeterGriffin11
      @PeterGriffin11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lilgass7648 The unfortunate thing is if he was still alive he'd possibly get more ridicule than Mary and be treated as the villian despite there being more evidence toward her being the aggressor I've seen too many stories where this happens to Men who are accused of rape and or abuse the most recent example that comes to mind is Johnny Depp.

    • @shaysshoo4179
      @shaysshoo4179 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lilgass7648 well no shit stop with the boy and girl battle bullshit

  • @ashroman6163
    @ashroman6163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    I think the forensic evidence showing that she lied about him lunging toward her is enough to negate the entire story that she shot him in self defense. If she pointed guns at him in the past, and in the incident where he died, he was still on the corner of the bed when she shot him, she couldn’t have feared for her safety.
    That being said, I do take issue with the comment in this video that a survivor of sexual violence would not look up sexually violent videos on the internet. Not everyone reacts to trauma in the same way. Sometimes exposing yourself to that stuff gives you a sense of desensitization and control over what happened to you. I’m not saying it’s a healthy coping mechanism, but it is one that exists for some people.

    • @GabrielleHayes1921
      @GabrielleHayes1921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I agree, I think they abused each other and he was better at hiding the abuse he did.
      But I also agree that victims react differently, I have two friends that have been raped by people they knew and they both tried to reconnect with the rapists and have a "rego" over the sexual encounter because they didn't want to feel like victims and wanted to change the memory of the event, the one friend even tried killing herself afterwards and although she's doing better years later, it still has a bad effect on her to this day.

    • @Uchiha.Itachii
      @Uchiha.Itachii ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree with the last thing you said, everyone deals with trauma differently and some completely different from most people, I know it’s hard for people to believe how people cope with things but I don’t feel like people actually understand that not everyone reacts to trauma the same way. She may also have tried to get back at him by stalking him and screaming at him to get back home or something idk

    • @shelbyratterree2889
      @shelbyratterree2889 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good old Spalding county... I'm so happy I moved out of Griffin

    • @bigbootyboy420
      @bigbootyboy420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah it seemed really problematic to say she never would have looked at that stuff. Even if it’s not likely, talking about it in absolutes is crazy to me

  • @PinkamenaDianePle
    @PinkamenaDianePle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    I honestly think they were both toxic. But in the end she’s the one who pulled the trigger. She’s guilty.

  • @kara.0248
    @kara.0248 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m late to the game on this one but a. The way you tell stories is so captivating lol and honestly this case is perplexing!!!