"You should really, keep your mouth shut and mind your business." I love you for saying that, I laughed so hard. Cuz I always felt weird for having these fantasies.
These are my favorite recs on your channel. Thanks for being strong enough to give these recommendations for those of us who know it’s fictional and fun to read. I would love to see a stalker rec if you have some.
Oooo, about to deep dive into these. Like I’m a healthy person with good boundaries and I love and respect myself as much as other. But sometimes I need to experience some of this in a safe way. I like thunderstorms, not everyday has to be sunshine. 🤍thank you!!
Carter Mahoney❤️ and Zoe have my heart❤️..I love how you handled this video ..i feel like this could be such a wonderful conversation once there's understanding what these mean..I will definitely read the Asking for it duet..
I mean, I've had this conversation SO many times I feel blue in the face but I know it needs repeating every little to remind the people who get a bee in their bonnet about fiction.
I wish I posted this disclaimer on my last video… it’s important that people know their triggers and limits with dark romance. Thank you for providing this!
"Get in those furs, girl" 😂🤣 You're fantastic! CNC is my favorite kink and I wish there were more well written books with it like the Asking For It duet was. That and Bait by Jade West are probably the best I've read and I've read a lot 😁
Yes, Sam Mariano knows how to write a villain as a "hero" you can't help but love...(cough, cough...Mateo Morelli...cough😉) Adding Stealing Cinderella to my TBR. I like her mafia stuff, and this may be a Cinderella story I can enjoy. 😆 I've been enjoying the Horde series by Zoey Draven 🔥. Yes, if you make an agreement you Should have to honor it. That thing bothers me too. Adding the Claire Kent series too. I've never heard of it before, but it sounds interesting. 🤔 There you go again, not helping my ever growing TBR. 🤣 A Hunger Like No Other is still a favorite of mine despite the misleading cover. Greivous Loss by Adelaide Forrest is 🔥 🔥 and my favorite from the series. Side Note: It's such a shame that in today's world you have to explain that Fiction is Fictional and just because you read dark romance doesn't mean you want it in your real life or maybe you do 😉 as long as it's consensual. Funny, you don't have to hear these kinds of disclaimers with mysteries. Like just because I read a book 📖 with Murders in it doesn't mean I'm going to get all stabby 🔪 after reading it 🤣...or maybe 🤫
Dark Duet by CJ Roberts I remember being good but it's been years since I read them. The first is called Captive in the Dark then there's Seduced in the Dark - I believe that's the name of the 2nd book! I think she even made an Epilogue book, too
Omg nobody talks about this duet!! Someone should. Those books have stuck out to me through the years. It’s probably because of the authors style she just hooked me in.
I reccomend checking out God Of Malice by Rina Kent. It's her newest release and even if her other books haven't worked for you,you should check it out.The main character kinda gives off Untouchable vibes
I read the Asking for It duet per your recommendation and loved it. I completely agree with you that this is a great way to read this trope ans try to understand the reasoning behind it.
Thanks for your recs! I'm not really a fan of NC, but I'm really happy when there are recs like yours that include even controversial topics. Furthermore, as a proud supporter of all kinks, I really appreciate CNC! I think I'll try to read Hold, as you said, sex as a survival method is absolutely real and it's fascinating! 😍
This video was recommended to me on TH-cam, and I just have to say: thank you so much for it and for how you talked about the whole topic. I often find the book community shames people for liking this stuff, without understanding it and why they like it - it’s a lack of understanding and often a lack of empathy too. But also, a lot of people in the book community lack introspection on what these tropes they like are, if that makes sense? Anyway, sorry to ramble! Just wanted to say I love the video and thank you for talking about it in a sensitive and sensible manner. I’ll definitely read Asking for It!
Thank you for your thoughtful comments! This is how I feel about the topics too. I'm never about the shaming attitude. But it is also fair to wonder why we might be attracted to some disturbing things. It's just not something people are always willing to see the nuance in.
Awwww. HOLD has me swooning for Cain. I’m more into Noncon, like full on.. twisted, dark, violent. Take by force by the evil MC. But when I started reading the ending where Cain was feeling guilty like he took something from her at the beginning of the book? I just died inside. He’s such a strong MC AND he’s not just some monster… He had a conscience wondering if he forced or took what wasn’t his. I love how much they grew to care for each other and how he protected her. 😩🥺❤️😭 Love all your recommends .
Thanks for these! I’m dying while i wait for The Bully to come out on audio 😅😭. Debt by Nina G Jones and Cruel Idols by Sorcha Black are a couple of my favorite cnc books.
A great dark rec, NonCon that develops into CNC is This Love Hurts by Nikita, by far the darkest thing I’ve read and a rollercoaster but I enjoyed every second of the torture. I had to skim read a chapter or two because it is that dark lol
I’m on a Draco Malfoy rampage, and when you said ‘The Bully - Malfoy’ I was like “Imma get it!” I feel like Manacled would fit perfectly in this video :P
You have done such a great job with this video! Thank you, love cnc, dc, and I literally just added Descent, by Sam Mariano to my TBR earlier today ❤ I think the first cnc I fell in love with was Desperate Measures. Mafia Mistress also was great and had some of that!
Ok but why have I read all of these books except for Truly 😅 I’m so happy to find someone on book tube who likes these tropes because I need more recs but no one talks about these types of books on book tube. There’s a new wave of people that like dark romance on booktok but there’s so many different tropes and levels to dark romance. Lots of people draw the line at non con/dubious consent/ cnc/forced breeding etc.
I want you to do a recommendation video on books available on kindle for the same genre, I’ve read some and those are - RINA KENT ALL BOOKS ARE THERE EXCEPT TEAM ZERO SERIES AND RHODE’s series
Great video Jen. I have to add Clarie Kent series to my tbr. Thanks for the recommendation. Would you be willing to do a recommendation on books with breeding kinks in them. I know you name a few in this video. I would like to read more of those.
In theory i like dark romance, but while reading I always have issues with the themes. Like right now I'm reading a book were the hero (mm romance) is kidnapped by a serial killer that assaults him, yet his body is getting pleasure from the encounter, and I'm thinking to myself; how dare he get pleasure from the villain, and how dare his body react... I haven't yet refined what i like and what I'm comfortable with, but dark themes keep me engaged with a book, lately i dnf most cutesy fluffy books i attempt to read.
Hey, this is one of my favorite troops so I've read a ton of books. I really liked your suggestions, I've read almost all of them so if you want to discuss more titles or exchange recommendations with me, please reach out!
I veiw the reader as giving the consent,mainly because of how I read books,so NC and (c)DC are faves of mine. I do wish there were more somnophilia books out there though. I read an erotic romance where the heroine gave her consent on camera,in writing etc and then had her memory wiped of it. So much fun. My poor tbr list is dead already so what's few more.
Hi Jen, do you know if Jade West write any books for those of us girls who don’t get turned on by painful sex???? I love her writing but, me and my vaginismus can’t take it. Or if you know of any other dark romance books/authors?? If you’ve already done a video and I somehow haven’t watched it, please let me know so i can run to go watch it. Have a lovely day or night wherever you read this. ❤❤
i feel like in the book called Little Dove there could be parts that are considered Dubious Consent (pls correct me if im mistaken, if youve read the book, i have read it but i could be inccorect)
That's been a long time for me as well... I think it had Consensual stuff. But she is kidnapped and kept my the hero. When her father is *unalived*. But he gives her a choice in all the relationship stuff. But it is a taboo romance because he is her guardian... But it's been awhile for me as well.
I'm new to your channel, love your video BTW. Have you ever read the Skals series by Adriana Noir.The first book is called sinister kisses, I just read it and OMG. Must read
It starts with non-con. But is mostly dubcon or consensual after that. That's why it reminds me of Untouchable but Noah isn't quite as crazy as Carter.
Loved this! Thank you for being so open minded when it comes to dark romance. Your channel feels like a safe space 🧡
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"You should really, keep your mouth shut and mind your business." I love you for saying that, I laughed so hard. Cuz I always felt weird for having these fantasies.
These are my favorite recs on your channel. Thanks for being strong enough to give these recommendations for those of us who know it’s fictional and fun to read. I would love to see a stalker rec if you have some.
Til my dying breath!. Okay, not quite that dramatic... but I will never stop while I still have a channel. 🥰🥰
Oooo, about to deep dive into these. Like I’m a healthy person with good boundaries and I love and respect myself as much as other. But sometimes I need to experience some of this in a safe way. I like thunderstorms, not everyday has to be sunshine. 🤍thank you!!
Rina Kent’s new book God Of Malice fits this trope.
Carter Mahoney❤️ and Zoe have my heart❤️..I love how you handled this video ..i feel like this could be such a wonderful conversation once there's understanding what these mean..I will definitely read the Asking for it duet..
I mean, I've had this conversation SO many times I feel blue in the face but I know it needs repeating every little to remind the people who get a bee in their bonnet about fiction.
@@TheBookRefuge that last part!💯
I wish I posted this disclaimer on my last video… it’s important that people know their triggers and limits with dark romance. Thank you for providing this!
"Get in those furs, girl" 😂🤣 You're fantastic!
CNC is my favorite kink and I wish there were more well written books with it like the Asking For It duet was. That and Bait by Jade West are probably the best I've read and I've read a lot 😁
Yes, Sam Mariano knows how to write a villain as a "hero" you can't help but love...(cough, cough...Mateo Morelli...cough😉) Adding Stealing Cinderella to my TBR. I like her mafia stuff, and this may be a Cinderella story I can enjoy. 😆 I've been enjoying the Horde series by Zoey Draven 🔥. Yes, if you make an agreement you Should have to honor it. That thing bothers me too. Adding the Claire Kent series too. I've never heard of it before, but it sounds interesting. 🤔 There you go again, not helping my ever growing TBR. 🤣 A Hunger Like No Other is still a favorite of mine despite the misleading cover. Greivous Loss by Adelaide Forrest is 🔥 🔥 and my favorite from the series. Side Note: It's such a shame that in today's world you have to explain that Fiction is Fictional and just because you read dark romance doesn't mean you want it in your real life or maybe you do 😉 as long as it's consensual. Funny, you don't have to hear these kinds of disclaimers with mysteries. Like just because I read a book 📖 with Murders in it doesn't mean I'm going to get all stabby 🔪 after reading it 🤣...or maybe 🤫
I absolutely love this reading recs list! And I 100% agree with you about the respecting the kinks thing. No one should judge ❤
Dark Duet by CJ Roberts I remember being good but it's been years since I read them. The first is called Captive in the Dark then there's Seduced in the Dark - I believe that's the name of the 2nd book! I think she even made an Epilogue book, too
Omg nobody talks about this duet!! Someone should. Those books have stuck out to me through the years. It’s probably because of the authors style she just hooked me in.
@@figueroabrigyt Yes!!! Me too!! Sooo different from anything else I've read in this genre. Very haunting
This trope is my jam. And I love that you still find some that I've never heard of before. 😍🥰
I read manacled because of you and it was amazing. Your recs are so good.
I reccomend checking out God Of Malice by Rina Kent.
It's her newest release and even if her other books haven't worked for you,you should check it out.The main character kinda gives off Untouchable vibes
You took the words right out of my mouth.
Yesssss
People need to remember reading is an escape, it's just fun.
Descent is crazy AF but it was an interesting journey. I won’t read it again, because I don’t think I’d like it a second time again.
I read the Asking for It duet per your recommendation and loved it. I completely agree with you that this is a great way to read this trope ans try to understand the reasoning behind it.
the losers series is my fav of this trope!! should read!!
The Ritual by Shantel Tessier is a great one for this recc. DubCon and a good consent non consent scene
Considering how much I loved The Bully and A Hunger Like No Other, I need to read the other books on this list.
😘😘😘 Hahaha! Yes you do
Thanks for your recs! I'm not really a fan of NC, but I'm really happy when there are recs like yours that include even controversial topics. Furthermore, as a proud supporter of all kinks, I really appreciate CNC!
I think I'll try to read Hold, as you said, sex as a survival method is absolutely real and it's fascinating! 😍
So true! I don't know why I find transactional situations so interesting but I really do. Haha!
Thank you! I always appreciate you for being such an open minded person, and you literally cater to every interest💞
This video was recommended to me on TH-cam, and I just have to say: thank you so much for it and for how you talked about the whole topic. I often find the book community shames people for liking this stuff, without understanding it and why they like it - it’s a lack of understanding and often a lack of empathy too. But also, a lot of people in the book community lack introspection on what these tropes they like are, if that makes sense? Anyway, sorry to ramble! Just wanted to say I love the video and thank you for talking about it in a sensitive and sensible manner. I’ll definitely read Asking for It!
Thank you for your thoughtful comments! This is how I feel about the topics too. I'm never about the shaming attitude. But it is also fair to wonder why we might be attracted to some disturbing things. It's just not something people are always willing to see the nuance in.
Oh my, I can already tell that this video is going to destroy my TBR list.
Damn, now I am so curious what the trauma was for the boy in asking for it. You describe books really well🌺🍧🌷
Awwww. HOLD has me swooning for Cain. I’m more into Noncon, like full on.. twisted, dark, violent. Take by force by the evil MC. But when I started reading the ending where Cain was feeling guilty like he took something from her at the beginning of the book? I just died inside. He’s such a strong MC AND he’s not just some monster… He had a conscience wondering if he forced or took what wasn’t his. I love how much they grew to care for each other and how he protected her. 😩🥺❤️😭 Love all your recommends .
Can you please recommend me some books that are full noncon ? Just like you said, violent and twisted and extreme .
can you give me recommendations too? Thank u!
Thanks for these! I’m dying while i wait for The Bully to come out on audio 😅😭. Debt by Nina G Jones and Cruel Idols by Sorcha Black are a couple of my favorite cnc books.
A great dark rec, NonCon that develops into CNC is This Love Hurts by Nikita, by far the darkest thing I’ve read and a rollercoaster but I enjoyed every second of the torture. I had to skim read a chapter or two because it is that dark lol
I’m on a Draco Malfoy rampage, and when you said ‘The Bully - Malfoy’ I was like “Imma get it!” I feel like Manacled would fit perfectly in this video :P
The only reason it isn't for me is because I kind of feel like they are mutually forced... and that's a whole other video. Hahaha!
@@TheBookRefuge I hadn’t thought of that!
You have done such a great job with this video! Thank you, love cnc, dc, and I literally just added Descent, by Sam Mariano to my TBR earlier today ❤ I think the first cnc I fell in love with was Desperate Measures. Mafia Mistress also was great and had some of that!
Hi Jen thanks for providing other dark romance authors to explore enjoyed this vlog. Thank you😇😈
This is my "thing"... or one of them,lol! Great video with many of my top choices and a few new and exciting! Thank u!
Adding Stealing Cinderella and bloodied hands to my tbr, thanks Jenn ☺️
I read the first Bellande crime syndicate novel a couple months ago and I absolutely loved it! I have to read the other books!
Ok but why have I read all of these books except for Truly 😅 I’m so happy to find someone on book tube who likes these tropes because I need more recs but no one talks about these types of books on book tube. There’s a new wave of people that like dark romance on booktok but there’s so many different tropes and levels to dark romance. Lots of people draw the line at non con/dubious consent/ cnc/forced breeding etc.
I want you to do a recommendation video on books available on kindle for the same genre,
I’ve read some and those are
- RINA KENT ALL BOOKS ARE THERE EXCEPT TEAM ZERO SERIES AND RHODE’s series
Great video Jen. I have to add Clarie Kent series to my tbr. Thanks for the recommendation. Would you be willing to do a recommendation on books with breeding kinks in them. I know you name a few in this video. I would like to read more of those.
Can you make a recommendation video for breeding kinks? 🥺👉👈
Captive of hoard king... Love how you recommend nd criticized at the same time 😂😂
My TBR is FULL now - thanks!
In theory i like dark romance, but while reading I always have issues with the themes. Like right now I'm reading a book were the hero (mm romance) is kidnapped by a serial killer that assaults him, yet his body is getting pleasure from the encounter, and I'm thinking to myself; how dare he get pleasure from the villain, and how dare his body react...
I haven't yet refined what i like and what I'm comfortable with, but dark themes keep me engaged with a book, lately i dnf most cutesy fluffy books i attempt to read.
I’m literally looking all over for the Lilah pace duet. You can find book 2 easily for a decent price but the first book is so hard to find.
Yeah, it's so sad that it's out of print now. I'm glad I was introduced to it before it got scarce.
@@TheBookRefuge wow I’m so dumb I didn’t even think that was the reasons.
Thanks so much for the breakdown love cnc!
dean and cat are my favorites
Hey, this is one of my favorite troops so I've read a ton of books. I really liked your suggestions, I've read almost all of them so if you want to discuss more titles or exchange recommendations with me, please reach out!
Stealing Cinderella was ok to me. I agree it was spicy.
Ooh I have the whole sophie lark series.
I veiw the reader as giving the consent,mainly because of how I read books,so NC and (c)DC are faves of mine.
I do wish there were more somnophilia books out there though.
I read an erotic romance where the heroine gave her consent on camera,in writing etc and then had her memory wiped of it. So much fun.
My poor tbr list is dead already so what's few more.
Hi Jen, do you know if Jade West write any books for those of us girls who don’t get turned on by painful sex???? I love her writing but, me and my vaginismus can’t take it. Or if you know of any other dark romance books/authors?? If you’ve already done a video and I somehow haven’t watched it, please let me know so i can run to go watch it. Have a lovely day or night wherever you read this. ❤❤
God of malice , rina Kent . Highly recommend.
i feel like in the book called Little Dove there could be parts that are considered Dubious Consent (pls correct me if im mistaken, if youve read the book, i have read it but i could be inccorect)
That's been a long time for me as well... I think it had Consensual stuff. But she is kidnapped and kept my the hero. When her father is *unalived*. But he gives her a choice in all the relationship stuff. But it is a taboo romance because he is her guardian... But it's been awhile for me as well.
I'm new to your channel, love your video BTW. Have you ever read the Skals series by Adriana Noir.The first book is called sinister kisses, I just read it and OMG. Must read
Thank you so much!!! ❤
Hold is good, read it years ago.
I read DESCENT ❤
I love your channel, I think you are awesome 👏. Great books recommendations too. Keep up the great job.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍👍👍
How can I order wrong by Adelaide Forrest?
It's available on her website only! It's been banned on the zone! But you can get the ebook and paperback on her website.
Hey Jen where does Truly by Carmel Rhodes fall under cnc, non con or dub con?
It starts with non-con. But is mostly dubcon or consensual after that. That's why it reminds me of Untouchable but Noah isn't quite as crazy as Carter.
Who's the author of "Wrong"? I'm having trouble with the link. Thank you so much-
So, it has been banned since I made this video. So you can buy it directly from her website now.
It's Adelaide Forrest.
@@TheBookRefuge Thank you so much! I love your reviews!!
I've always disliked the cover of a hunger like no other lol doesn't even seem like that's what he'd look like.
I think the cover has been changed now .
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Loved this and looking to read a few from your recommendations 🫶