Another great review. Too many moto-journalists are always reviewing the top end high performance that few can afford and most would find don't meet their real world riding needs. It's great to see a review of a good learner's bike. BTW, most experienced riders agree that riding small bikes is more fun.
Here I am in America, riding a 300, pining after awesome 125cc machines they don't even sell here. While others start on 650's, buy 100+hp rockets 6 months in, and constantly ask me when I'm going to 'upgrade.' *Sigh*
Last summer on a trip to the Texas Hill Country I met a man (late 20s?) on a K1200RS just like the one I left at home because it is too ungainly for these roads. He said he was having a great time out there on this *His First Bike.* We need a licensing system here similar to that in the UK. All riders should at least experience lighter bikes before making such a dangerous choice.
I'm fairly libertarian by nature, yet I'm inclined to agree. I think weight is the biggest safety factor for beginners. When I started, there was no way I was gonna ride something I couldn't squirm out from under. People's first bikes should be lightweight, something like < 400lbs or better < 350. Realistically less for weaklings and womenfolk, but it's hard to right laws around that. Aside from safety, how do these people even KNOW the prefer powerful, heavy bikes when they haven't tried little ones once?
Yes, not easy to get the legislation right Won't please everyone, that's for sure! The problem tends to be how much time reviewers on youtube and print media spend on powerful and large bikes. It actually has been getting a little better recently, but if potential riders are constantly told that the new Panigale is the best thing since sliced bread, why wouldn't they want one? There's no easy answer to this but channels like Missenden flyer do a good job of showing that practical bikes can be desirable.
I just wanted to say, while there are many motorbike vloggers on YT, you have very quickly become my favourite and most trusted. Your content is great/varied, the quality of your uploads is high/consistent and your reviews/ride along commentary is honest and humble. But one thing trumps all that...YOU! You come across as genuine, passionate, caring, mature but also fun. I believe that no matter how big your channel gets, that is you as a person, so will never change. I hope to one day be able to shake your had to say thank you for the inspiration Many Thanks and keep up the hard/great work! Martyn
Sorry to disappoint...but rather the Welsh masculine form....I imagine I would have a very different life having been born a Swedish female however...hmm?!
I’ve had a number of big tourers etc and bought this as a stop gap at the start of COVID......well it’s great I’ve even used it to go into London 90 mile round trip and it was fine and comfortable. I love these little 125cc bikes and this is a great one - I passed my test in 1971 so had loads of bikes!
I agree this is a quality bike. ive had this for a month and i love driving around on it. one point i didnt see mentioned in the review was it has a Flash button on the front which is very useful for night rides.
Very nice bike. Loving it. So cheap and simple. I have had 5 bikes before, this is my fafourite so far when it comes to daily commuting, city traffic and maintainance, also the lowest fuel consumption ever! While I dont get the advertised 2 litre per 100 km, I easily get 2,5 - 2,6 l/100 km. Its also not to low and it came with touring tires, so you can still comfortably use shortcuts through the forest!
Drive out of the dealership...go around the nearest roundabout...drive back into the dealership...enough said....that should have been the review! Fair play for maximising the review...good work!
Love your channel - very informative especially for someone like me who’s just getting into motorcycling! I did my CBT on a YS125 and pick up my brand new one on Monday, basic but confidence-inspiring bike for a nervous newbie like me!
It's good to see a bike reviewer doing rides on all ranges of bike engine sizes and not just all huge engine bikes... love what your doing keep up the great content (even if I am still waiting for the BMW F800GT review 😉)
I just did my cbt on one of these the other day, after practicing a little on a Chinese bike.. this felt so much smoother! To the point where I just bought one 2nd hand for £1895 with 2000 miles on it.. it was such a pleasing and forgiving machine!
I opted for an Honda Cb125f. But it was very close call. What swung it was I dropped on a pre reg brand new for 2295 and the Yam was 2799 un registered. I did like the clock on the Yam better but not worth that extra cash. Good review
Got my old bike off a review of yours then when my bike was stolen I see your review for this bike, I trust and respect your judgement so as a result I'm having the same bike off this review! Keep up the great work!
I remember well when the new rules (then) came in back in 1980's and learners had to step down from 250cc to 125 restricted to 12hp. 🤤 For reasons too long and boring to mention I was on L plates for eight years and had had just about every type of 125. At six foot four and about sixteen stone then (looking like a gorilla on a monkey bike) the poor old 125's struggled on the open roads but from Eltham to Brixton in the traffic were a delight. Finally got around to doing my test in Catford (passed of course after that length of experience) and jumped straight on the GPZ750 I had in the shed. Wow that was a learning curve from midget to monster!
memories of my cbt two years ago in November It rained like you never seen before an I had the worst one ever made. I loved every second of it on that yb 125........ Cool video as always
I know these are built to a price but it really annoys me that manufactures don't fit their new 125 model with ABS. These bikes are aimed at new riders; just the sort of folks who would grab the front brake in an emergency. I know because my son did just that and went down. If I were now looking for a new 125 for my son or daughter to learn on I would spend a little more and get them one with ABS like the lovely looking Yam MT125.
Could't agree more. I thought it was now compulsory by law that all new bikes have ABS. I know 125 KTM Duke has ABS, didn't the chinese bikes also have them? I like Yamaha , but this is a no no.
Huw Howells Yep all the crashes I've personally been aware of including my lad have involved locking the front up. You would have the daft situation where CBT trainers would have ABS on their larger bikes and trainees wouldn't.
Isn't it better to learn on a bike that hasn't got abs rather than one that has especially at 125cc level where you can't hurt yourself too much, imagine you have only been on a bike with abs when you done your full test, then you do not have a great deal of money for a new bike as most young riders don't so you buy a older 600cc without abs then realise what locking up the front wheels about
James Dean perhaps if you had witnessed a family member hit the deck breaking limbs as a direct result of locking the front wheel then you wouldn't argue for anyone to learn or ride a non ABS machine. ABS is the best safety feature introduced into the motoring industry and I don't think any bike should be sold without it. And no I would not buy an older non ABS bike.
I don't wish anyone to see that but I think you shouldn't be on the road till you can ride a bike without abs, it's good technology but it shouldn't be relied on, what if it fails and you have no experience without it, and it might be ok for those who have 3-4K at 17 to buy a 125cc with abs but for the most part it's going to be £500-1000 on a older 125cc bike without abs and you say they should all learn on bikes with abs because they might lock the front, if there going to lock the front it's better in the car park. This will not be much of a issue in the future as most bikes will have it then but for the moment it's not a good idea learning on bikes with abs
High Wycombe! Born and bred there & still live in Wycombe. I’m 23 and thinking of getting a motorbike license and thinking of getting this is a first bike. Thanks for making this video :)
This is my first bike, bought it last July, and I’ve had a great time on it. The clutch was quite loose when I bought it new that it needed adjusting and after 1300 miles there was a small handling issue and I got the head bearings re-greased. Other than that, it’s been perfect for me to learn on. I passed my Mod 1 last Friday on a MT07 and can’t wait to get the funds together this year and get a XSR700 after my Mod2.
This bike reminds me of my 86 Honda CBX250 - same type of bike - was well appointed, easy to ride and lasted for years. I had it for 15 years - gave it to my Brother-in-law and he managed to destroy it within a couple of years. Like you say - these bikes are fun to ride in town and great on economy to and from work.
I bought a Honda CB125E here in Australia just to commute to work. At the equivalent of £1400 ride away new I can’t think of a more fun way to get around. It reminds me of my first bike, a Honda H100S back in 1983. I’ve taken my CB off road, dirt roads, on the highway (not a good idea) and racing my mate on a Grom up the mountains and it never misses a beat. I get 550km easily out of a tank as well. I prefer the traditional styling of the CB as we don’t get the dinky front end, just a round headlight. I think as we get bigger and more powerful bikes we forget how much fun these little things are.
Up at that price point I think the Derbi Terra Adventure (now rebranded as a Sinnis Terrain 125) takes some beating. Full 15hp, very good build quality, 'big bike' feel, very comfortable riding position & looks-wise has more than a passing resemblance to a mini-GS. Putting about 1300 miles a month on mine and very pleased with it.
I started learning on a honda cbr 125r the bike was responsive quick and easily held 76+mph unfortunately it wasn't amazing on fuel. Recently it got reversed into and I got a ys125 as a courtesy bike and honestly for inner city riding and fuel consumption it is absolutely unreal the fuel tank is huge. The downside being that the bike can't really get any faster then 64mph downhill with wind in my advantage. Perfect bike to learn on but I feel it's a massive downgrade in power but a massive upgrade economically.
I did my CBT on the YBR125 very bland boring and basic bike but was very comfortable, The YS125 looks just like the CB125F. A very good reliable little machine cheap n cheerful & fit for purpose.
Nice little learner bike,in my day the examiner jumped out from a concealed location for the emergency stop,the test has come along way since then hahahahaha “happy days”
In 1987, that man with the clipboard jumped out on me for the ‘emergency stop’ around the very same streets of Desborough Road at the beginning of this video. Only I knew where he was going to appear from on the basic figure of 8 as my mate did his test the week before! Have to agree about the High Wycombe scenery but you chose well with the climb up Coates Lane!
Certainly not a race winner but certainly a winner . For the city jungel a practice motorcycle and for the money bracket a topper . Again an excellent revieuw of the TMF. 100% top !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've had a YBR125 for a year now, it's my first bike and I've put 11k miles on top of the 9k already on it. I really do thrash the thing and don't look after it as well as I should yet it's given me no issues. It really is a great bike and when mine eventually dies I'll be buying a YS125 to tide me over to the A licence at 24 years old. (GOD DAMN THE UK)
I have to giggle as I learned my craft on a Hayabusa, moved to Thailand and then China where I enjoyed the Yammie ybrs a lot. There's just that wonderful ease about 125s, and not just on the wallet.
I just crashed my YBR125 after 10 years and found out that it is out of production. This seems almost identical except for the design parts. I can't imagine a better bike for getting arround town. Almost 500km on a full tank, and handles like a bicycle, unbeatable. I wish it had ABS though. But I'm getting a bigger bike now, since I moved out of town. Kind of fell in love with the mash fife hundret.
Great to see an entry bike review and very positive. Good value bike. My son just bought a MT 125 to learn on and would be interesting to see if you consider it was worth the extra cash in respect of spec and performance.
well i recently got a yamaha ys 125 as my first bike more then my enduro and its a realy nice bike to ride and id recommend it to others who wants a good first bike ...best part is that on tank last me around 70 km since i live out in the country and i take the bike to school
Sell a Chinese 125 and you get buttons for it. The Yamaha isn't just a better bike (that won't fall to bits), you'll also get decent money when you sell her.
By most accounts, it's sucessor was as reliable as the TW125 I had many moons ago. Then again I didn't do what most 17 year olds do, which is leave it outside all winter and never clean or service it. I lost hardly anything when I sold my TW, it was mint.
They do retain their value better than some of the 'Chinese' bikes, however. This is also built in China by a Yamaha Chinese 'partner'....one of the very same factories that produces the 'chinese rubbish' people seem to keep banging on about!
I personally wouldn’t want anything smaller than a 300 cc , get away from the traffic and fast enough to keep with traffic on a dual carriageway,,, you have to thrash small bikes to much to get anywhere, but to be fair you haven’t got the choices when your young and have a learner license, great review mr Fleyer
You always have such positive things to say about the bikes you review (I'm not saying they're fake I think it's just your enthusiasm for motorcycles), are there any bikes you've tested that you didn't like?
I took my license here in Denmark on a Yamaha MT-07 and the new Suzuki SV650 and now I own an Yamaha XJ6 Diversion as my first bike. Im sure it couldnt hurt anyone learning on a 125cc but learning on +600cc machines didnt cause any trouble for me at all. I actually think I would prefer it that way rater than learning on a small bike and then being on my own when I upgrade to a larger motor :)
SunzOffski The rules are the same in Denmark I think its an european thing, but I got my license at the age of 29 so no restriction even though Im still a rookie. Makes little sense to me :)
If the Yamaha website specs are correct they say 0.2 litres per 100km....so roughly 130-140mpg....14 litre tank...just over 3 uk gallons so even if it did 100mpg that's still 300 miles before fill up....pretty impressive as usually these bikes only have 9/10 litre tanks....cracking looking bike....got to love a 125....great review as always👍
i started off learning on the ybr125 too, very basic bike, but it's trying to like buy a brand new iphone 4 in 2018, it works and it's cheap af but really no thanks...
Tony Tng Indeed. Tbh if I was 18 y/o I would definitely go for a duke/rc 125 or mt-125 with 15 hp, abs and 6 gears. I’m 22 now and had a cbf 125, ninja 300 and currently have an xj6-n. My only regret is not buying those higher-end 125’s when I was 18. :p
I've got this one at the moment as a courtesy bike (RIP my little 14 reg ybr) I hated it at first compared to my ybr. Got the clutch sorted as the bite was right at the end of my fingers! Their Standard footpegs are alot bigger than the ybr which I found difficult when putting the kickstand down and just generally moving it around (seated or pushing) got to say I love the gears and the dash (easy to find neutral and had no false so far)! As mentioned in the video I feel the same about my knees being high up and I'm only 5ft4! Still definitely considering getting one once my claim comes through (and will mod the clutch and footrests!)
Love your channel.Thank you. I learned on a Yamaha YBR-G 125 and absolutely love it.I wonder if they sell that motorbike here in Central America.Probably expensive
I'd be interested to see a comparison with ybr for acceleration to 60, plus top end, and max speed up 15% incline. A lot of the 125s I feel put you in just as much danger for the lack of ability to get out of trouble forward (as in pull away from a bad situation rather than brake behind it - for example a car suddenly changing lanes in front could be cleared with acceleration, as opposed to heavy braking which is usually your only choice on a 125 therefore risking being smushed by the car behind)
TheMissendenFlyer 250 would also be realistic in terms of learning to ride something more similar to what you will end up on after you pass your test, as it is the difference between a 125 and a 600/650, which most will jump to, is like riding a bicycle compared to the 125. You do learn road skills, sure, but riding skills more specific to the style you will adopt on a bigger bike - you have to learn all that in a couple days training and overwrite all that 125 *rag it to the bone* riding. At the very least, being able to reliably hit the speed limit on roads you're legally allowed on - being stuck at 40-50 on an incline on a single track A road is dangerous and creates traffic. Alas I doubt the law will change any time soon!
Took my test back in the 80s on a MZ ETZ125 - the only learner-legal bike I could find that didn't make me look like I was riding a circus clown's bike!
Yep! I am 5' 10", and I guess I weighed up around 15 - 16 stone back then, and most of the bikes I looked at probably couldn't even have carried my weight, plus my knees would have been up around my elbows... The MZ was a decent bike for the price, if somewhat basic - it was certainly strong enough!
leaners here start on a 650 now it use to be 250cc when I was in Wales in the 80's I remember seeing full fairing bikes but with the 125 motors ......weird but everyone has to start somewhere ay great vid mate kind regards PHIL
Sounds like my Yamaha TW200 a little bit. Hey have you ever ridden a TW200? You should do a review of one just for fun. They are a lot of fun to ride even though they are slow.
Oh really? Wow I would have thought they would sell them over there. Maybe they don't? There's brand new ones at my Yamaha Dealer here in the USA. It's a dual sport, with fat tires. Low seat, very simple, basically the same since 1986. They lost the kick starter in 2001 and some other minor changes. Very cool and fun bikes excellent for beginners or smaller riders. I bought one last year as my first bike and I will probably never sell it! See if you can ride one sometime, they are a hoot.
I’m a student 12th grade and I use this bike to commute to school it’s very easy but I crashed it once and the plastic guards on the tank saved it from creating a hole on it very brilliant Yamaha 👍👍👍😘
Watching the bike struggle to get past that van at a snail's pace, makes me glad to be in the U.S. and while I agree graduated licensing would be very useful, I am super glad that I can start on a 250 or 300 and still be sane! (though admittedly I did start on a CBR600 years ago - walked right in, plunked down the cash and had to have them deliver it to my house since I didn't know how to ride or have a license)
Had a YBR125, perfect for learners but gets a bit dull after a while in terms of looks and riding. Easy to fix and got me everywhere I needed to go and had many adventures on it (mine didn't like the heat though). Can't say I like the new tank though but I guess it's the more modern design everyone does now. As for schools using these I wish mine had even the YBR since I had to do my CBT on an 80s or 90s 125 that needed to be near the redline just to do slow maneuvers (this was like 2 years ago by the way).
Mom just bought one as her first bike, been riding it a little to practice lots for her until she sits her test tomorrow and it's a really nice little bike. Really cheap bike that honestly doesn't feel cheap at all
Hmmm something doesn't quite add up. You say it has a 14l fuel tank, which is 3.1 gallons, and that it will do over 100mpg. Surely that means the range is over 300miles, not 160 like you said?? 9:00
I’ve got a 2017 baby MT. Great wee bike but yes very expensive for a 125. I do around 150 miles a week on mine riding on A roads, only issues I’ve had on the newer one I’ve got has been electrical. Funny characters some bikes have though. My first MT started every time in the cold and that was being left outside not covered during winter. My newer one lives in a garage and absolutely hates the cold.....can be a right grumpy bugger when she wants to be! Get a shot of MT Mr Flyer and see what you think.
Apart from the 21stC transformer style, basic LED dash and the cast wheels, there doesn't seem much on that bike that wouldn't have been on a decent early 70s 125 roadster. Like the cb125. Oh, FI instead of carbs I guess. None the worse. Yamaha quality is among the best (and real quality not simply 'posh'). Shame the 175 class has long gone - this with 50cc extra and maybe rear disc would be a superb suburban not just urban commuter for those who don't want a scooter.
Afternoon fella, after realising I can afford the bike I really want I have seen a second hand ys125 within budget. Thanks for this review it’s helped in the thought process.my question here is insurance, I’m new to biking Just got my CBT, but have been driving cars for 15 years plus. Insurers are quoting £600 + for me to insure a 125cc, and I’m astonished. Now I’m not expecting to pay peanuts but double what I pay for my 1.8l civic seems very steep. As a new rider is that what I should be expecting to pay?
Got this bike coming next Wednesday! This’ll be my first bike I’m so excited. Unfortunately didn’t get to do my CBT on a manual bike as the bike I was due to use broke down… is it easy to learn gears and clutch control on this?
How did you get on looking for a 125, I’m 6ft3 so understanding the difficulties you face.I see that there is a 125cc bike called the sinnis terrain which is a small capacity adventure type bike, but it does look to be larger than most 125cc bikes.
I carried on and passed to get my full licence. Ended up getting a 650 Interceptor, very happy with it. If taking tests again I think it’s a good idea to get a 125 , gives you the ability to practice
Looking at one of these. But looks so cheap. Drum brake at back. I then looked at a Lexmoto Viper 125. Which is Chinese but quality feels really good. What's your opinion. The Viper as led lights hugger and disc brakes. 2 year warranty
In the Netherlands most bikers don't want to be seen dead on a 125cc bike. A2 license is the minimum but most go straight to the full license so they can buy a 600 or 800cc at least.
Nice little bike and does what it says on the tin. I had a YBR125 and a CB125F the Honda is better in my opinion although the gearbox was a tad clunky. Both great for around town.
If I’m completely honest I don’t think there’s a great deal of difference with the exception of the awful exhausts on them both. But Honda have tried to add some shine bit to break up the black unlike the Yamaha. Maybe it’s down to me being a Honda biker and being loyal to Honda (NC750x and a CBR500R) there is a little extra fairing on the Honda as well and the speedo/display is also slightly better. The more I’m writing I feel, the more I’m splitting hairs. Either are great little commuters and learner bikes.
I owned a ybr and used the Honda for while as a courtesy bike with mce I found the Honda looked nicer but the ybr had much better handling and felt better built
This looks a nice sensible 125 for new bikers to learn on , it’s a far cry from the 2 stroke NS125F I had as a 17 yr old , led flat on the tank with my feet hanging over the rear indicators it was good for over 80 , sounded a bit like an angry wasp with its Nikon power pipe fitted , scary to think it was 30 yrs. ago , it was probably the bike I had the most fun on .
Hehe, the white van thing is only a joke, I'd love one myself with "TMF" emblazoned down the side.....and yes the Sinnis is doing great, even rode it in deep snow over the Christmas break....more vids on that bike soon.
Another great review. Too many moto-journalists are always reviewing the top end high performance that few can afford and most would find don't meet their real world riding needs. It's great to see a review of a good learner's bike.
BTW, most experienced riders agree that riding small bikes is more fun.
Wise men indeed!
Here I am in America, riding a 300, pining after awesome 125cc machines they don't even sell here. While others start on 650's, buy 100+hp rockets 6 months in, and constantly ask me when I'm going to 'upgrade.' *Sigh*
Last summer on a trip to the Texas Hill Country I met a man (late 20s?) on a K1200RS just like the one I left at home because it is too ungainly for these roads. He said he was having a great time out there on this *His First Bike.*
We need a licensing system here similar to that in the UK. All riders should at least experience lighter bikes before making such a dangerous choice.
I'm fairly libertarian by nature, yet I'm inclined to agree. I think weight is the biggest safety factor for beginners. When I started, there was no way I was gonna ride something I couldn't squirm out from under. People's first bikes should be lightweight, something like < 400lbs or better < 350. Realistically less for weaklings and womenfolk, but it's hard to right laws around that. Aside from safety, how do these people even KNOW the prefer powerful, heavy bikes when they haven't tried little ones once?
Yes, not easy to get the legislation right Won't please everyone, that's for sure!
The problem tends to be how much time reviewers on youtube and print media spend on powerful and large bikes. It actually has been getting a little better recently, but if potential riders are constantly told that the new Panigale is the best thing since sliced bread, why wouldn't they want one?
There's no easy answer to this but channels like Missenden flyer do a good job of showing that practical bikes can be desirable.
I just wanted to say, while there are many motorbike vloggers on YT, you have very quickly become my favourite and most trusted. Your content is great/varied, the quality of your uploads is high/consistent and your reviews/ride along commentary is honest and humble.
But one thing trumps all that...YOU! You come across as genuine, passionate, caring, mature but also fun. I believe that no matter how big your channel gets, that is you as a person, so will never change.
I hope to one day be able to shake your had to say thank you for the inspiration
Many Thanks and keep up the hard/great work!
Martyn
Wow Martyn thank you - what would be good is if it now turns out that that spelling of Martyn is the Swedish female form??
Sorry to disappoint...but rather the Welsh masculine form....I imagine I would have a very different life having been born a Swedish female however...hmm?!
yup hes crushing it. all we need now is a motorcycle meet up!
"there are some lovely parts of it (High Wycombe) just haven't found them yet"......................Classic......................
Glad you spotted that ;0)
That park looked decent
I’ve had a number of big tourers etc and bought this as a stop gap at the start of COVID......well it’s great I’ve even used it to go into London 90 mile round trip and it was fine and comfortable. I love these little 125cc bikes and this is a great one - I passed my test in 1971 so had loads of bikes!
Great to hear!
I agree this is a quality bike. ive had this for a month and i love driving around on it. one point i didnt see mentioned in the review was it has a Flash button on the front which is very useful for night rides.
Very nice bike. Loving it. So cheap and simple. I have had 5 bikes before, this is my fafourite so far when it comes to daily commuting, city traffic and maintainance, also the lowest fuel consumption ever! While I dont get the advertised 2 litre per 100 km, I easily get 2,5 - 2,6 l/100 km. Its also not to low and it came with touring tires, so you can still comfortably use shortcuts through the forest!
I like your informal, conversational style. Great as usual. Thanks for not comparing it to a Panigale!
Thank you Mike - I'm an informal conversational type of bloke! All the best - TMF
If you live in a big city, you'll really appreciate a bike like this when moving through traffic.
100% agreed...
Brought back memories of my early days on a Yamaha YB100 back in 88, Cool VID again.
Thank you sir!
Did you really want a RXS100 ?
Drive out of the dealership...go around the nearest roundabout...drive back into the dealership...enough said....that should have been the review! Fair play for maximising the review...good work!
We use to train CBT's on Honda CB125F, CBF125, CG125, Suzuki GSX125, Yamaha YS125 and a Benelli TNT 125. Reliability is important.
Love your channel - very informative especially for someone like me who’s just getting into motorcycling! I did my CBT on a YS125 and pick up my brand new one on Monday, basic but confidence-inspiring bike for a nervous newbie like me!
Hey congratulations Amy and welcome to biking! Best of luck with the full test(s)....
It's good to see a bike reviewer doing rides on all ranges of bike engine sizes and not just all huge engine bikes... love what your doing keep up the great content (even if I am still waiting for the BMW F800GT review 😉)
Cheers Pete - will do...
I just did my cbt on one of these the other day, after practicing a little on a Chinese bike.. this felt so much smoother! To the point where I just bought one 2nd hand for £1895 with 2000 miles on it.. it was such a pleasing and forgiving machine!
Amazing review Thankyou! Helped me decide to get this bike for my first!
I opted for an Honda Cb125f. But it was very close call. What swung it was I dropped on a pre reg brand new for 2295 and the Yam was 2799 un registered. I did like the clock on the Yam better but not worth that extra cash. Good review
Got my old bike off a review of yours then when my bike was stolen I see your review for this bike, I trust and respect your judgement so as a result I'm having the same bike off this review! Keep up the great work!
Brilliant! Sorry to hear your bike was stole…
I remember well when the new rules (then) came in back in 1980's and learners had to step down from 250cc to 125 restricted to 12hp. 🤤 For reasons too long and boring to mention I was on L plates for eight years and had had just about every type of 125. At six foot four and about sixteen stone then (looking like a gorilla on a monkey bike) the poor old 125's struggled on the open roads but from Eltham to Brixton in the traffic were a delight. Finally got around to doing my test in Catford (passed of course after that length of experience) and jumped straight on the GPZ750 I had in the shed. Wow that was a learning curve from midget to monster!
Nice one Scott!
memories of my cbt two years ago in November It rained like you never seen before an I had the worst one ever made. I loved every second of it on that yb 125........ Cool video as always
Yeah I was a yb man too - brilliant first machine to learn the basics on....
I know these are built to a price but it really annoys me that manufactures don't fit their new 125 model with ABS. These bikes are aimed at new riders; just the sort of folks who would grab the front brake in an emergency. I know because my son did just that and went down.
If I were now looking for a new 125 for my son or daughter to learn on I would spend a little more and get them one with ABS like the lovely looking Yam MT125.
Could't agree more. I thought it was now compulsory by law that all new bikes have ABS. I know 125 KTM Duke has ABS, didn't the chinese bikes also have them? I like Yamaha , but this is a no no.
Huw Howells Yep all the crashes I've personally been aware of including my lad have involved locking the front up. You would have the daft situation where CBT trainers would have ABS on their larger bikes and trainees wouldn't.
Isn't it better to learn on a bike that hasn't got abs rather than one that has especially at 125cc level where you can't hurt yourself too much, imagine you have only been on a bike with abs when you done your full test, then you do not have a great deal of money for a new bike as most young riders don't so you buy a older 600cc without abs then realise what locking up the front wheels about
James Dean perhaps if you had witnessed a family member hit the deck breaking limbs as a direct result of locking the front wheel then you wouldn't argue for anyone to learn or ride a non ABS machine. ABS is the best safety feature introduced into the motoring industry and I don't think any bike should be sold without it. And no I would not buy an older non ABS bike.
I don't wish anyone to see that but I think you shouldn't be on the road till you can ride a bike without abs, it's good technology but it shouldn't be relied on, what if it fails and you have no experience without it, and it might be ok for those who have 3-4K at 17 to buy a 125cc with abs but for the most part it's going to be £500-1000 on a older 125cc bike without abs and you say they should all learn on bikes with abs because they might lock the front, if there going to lock the front it's better in the car park. This will not be much of a issue in the future as most bikes will have it then but for the moment it's not a good idea learning on bikes with abs
Simply the best biking reviewer out there, even make 125's sound interesting!
Thank you - they are!
High Wycombe! Born and bred there & still live in Wycombe. I’m 23 and thinking of getting a motorbike license and thinking of getting this is a first bike. Thanks for making this video :)
Go for it! See you on the road!
This is my first bike, bought it last July, and I’ve had a great time on it. The clutch was quite loose when I bought it new that it needed adjusting and after 1300 miles there was a small handling issue and I got the head bearings re-greased. Other than that, it’s been perfect for me to learn on. I passed my Mod 1 last Friday on a MT07 and can’t wait to get the funds together this year and get a XSR700 after my Mod2.
Congratulations Richard and welcome to biking!
This bike reminds me of my 86 Honda CBX250 - same type of bike - was well appointed, easy to ride and lasted for years. I had it for 15 years - gave it to my Brother-in-law and he managed to destroy it within a couple of years. Like you say - these bikes are fun to ride in town and great on economy to and from work.
Cracking little bike. I've got one as a hire bike because I crashed my CB125F. The YS125 feels a lot "nicer" than the Honda, if a little small
Great review, great schenary, love the video quality. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
I bought a Honda CB125E here in Australia just to commute to work. At the equivalent of £1400 ride away new I can’t think of a more fun way to get around. It reminds me of my first bike, a Honda H100S back in 1983. I’ve taken my CB off road, dirt roads, on the highway (not a good idea) and racing my mate on a Grom up the mountains and it never misses a beat. I get 550km easily out of a tank as well. I prefer the traditional styling of the CB as we don’t get the dinky front end, just a round headlight.
I think as we get bigger and more powerful bikes we forget how much fun these little things are.
Exactly!
Up at that price point I think the Derbi Terra Adventure (now rebranded as a Sinnis Terrain 125) takes some beating. Full 15hp, very good build quality, 'big bike' feel, very comfortable riding position & looks-wise has more than a passing resemblance to a mini-GS. Putting about 1300 miles a month on mine and very pleased with it.
well as you may know, thus far I have been impressed with Sinnis machines - defo not to be discounted!
I started learning on a honda cbr 125r the bike was responsive quick and easily held 76+mph unfortunately it wasn't amazing on fuel.
Recently it got reversed into and I got a ys125 as a courtesy bike and honestly for inner city riding and fuel consumption it is absolutely unreal the fuel tank is huge.
The downside being that the bike can't really get any faster then 64mph downhill with wind in my advantage.
Perfect bike to learn on but I feel it's a massive downgrade in power but a massive upgrade economically.
Great video as usual TMF, would be nice to see some content on other 125cc machines for those learning and getting into the bike world.
Stay Tuned!
Ah 125's are fun. I love my Yamaha FZ-S 150cc... something just right about the way Yamaha bikes handle and the engines are refined for city rides.
Buying my first bike soon either cb125f or ys125, thanks for the great review.
I did my CBT on the YBR125 very bland boring and basic bike but was very comfortable, The YS125 looks just like the CB125F. A very good reliable little machine cheap n cheerful & fit for purpose.
Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF
Nice little learner bike,in my day the examiner jumped out from a concealed location for the emergency stop,the test has come along way since then hahahahaha “happy days”
I remember that, same with me lol
With the puny little front drum brake on the fs1e how many of them examiners ended up in hospital?
Ahh, the good old days.
I know the test regime is much harder now, but for good reason, how did we ever think a man on the pavement with a clip board was enough!!
In 1987, that man with the clipboard jumped out on me for the ‘emergency stop’ around the very same streets of Desborough Road at the beginning of this video. Only I knew where he was going to appear from on the basic figure of 8 as my mate did his test the week before! Have to agree about the High Wycombe scenery but you chose well with the climb up Coates Lane!
Certainly not a race winner but certainly a winner . For the city jungel a practice motorcycle
and for the money bracket a topper .
Again an excellent revieuw of the TMF. 100% top !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheers Marc - always good to have you along - TMF
Did my CBT on the SR125. Loved it.
Still on my CBT so appreciate a 125 review
My pleasure - more smaller bike reviews coming soon!
A nice review of a new "old" classic. This review was a great idea on your part..
Glad you liked it...
I've had a YBR125 for a year now, it's my first bike and I've put 11k miles on top of the 9k already on it. I really do thrash the thing and don't look after it as well as I should yet it's given me no issues. It really is a great bike and when mine eventually dies I'll be buying a YS125 to tide me over to the A licence at 24 years old. (GOD DAMN THE UK)
Nice one Ben, ride safe!
I have to giggle as I learned my craft on a Hayabusa, moved to Thailand and then China where I enjoyed the Yammie ybrs a lot. There's just that wonderful ease about 125s, and not just on the wallet.
Admirable, in-depth review, good! Learnt a lot, great thx.
Thank you for watching!
great learner's bike , happy owner of ys125 :)
I just crashed my YBR125 after 10 years and found out that it is out of production. This seems almost identical except for the design parts. I can't imagine a better bike for getting arround town. Almost 500km on a full tank, and handles like a bicycle, unbeatable. I wish it had ABS though. But I'm getting a bigger bike now, since I moved out of town. Kind of fell in love with the mash fife hundret.
Yeah agree, great fun bikes 125s.....
Great to see an entry bike review and very positive. Good value bike. My son just bought a MT 125 to learn on and would be interesting to see if you consider it was worth the extra cash in respect of spec and performance.
I've not ridden an MT125 so can't really comment....
well i recently got a yamaha ys 125 as my first bike more then my enduro and its a realy nice bike to ride and id recommend it to others who wants a good first bike ...best part is that on tank last me around 70 km
since i live out in the country and i take the bike to school
Nice one Rasmus....and welcome to biking!
Sell a Chinese 125 and you get buttons for it.
The Yamaha isn't just a better bike (that won't fall to bits), you'll also get decent money when you sell her.
That seems to be the case doesn't it....
Because people know they'll go for decades :)
By most accounts, it's sucessor was as reliable as the TW125 I had many moons ago. Then again I didn't do what most 17 year olds do, which is leave it outside all winter and never clean or service it. I lost hardly anything when I sold my TW, it was mint.
They do retain their value better than some of the 'Chinese' bikes, however. This is also built in China by a Yamaha Chinese 'partner'....one of the very same factories that produces the 'chinese rubbish' people seem to keep banging on about!
I personally wouldn’t want anything smaller than a 300 cc , get away from the traffic and fast enough to keep with traffic on a dual carriageway,,, you have to thrash small bikes to much to get anywhere, but to be fair you haven’t got the choices when your young and have a learner license, great review mr Fleyer
Always good to hear from you Shane!
You always have such positive things to say about the bikes you review (I'm not saying they're fake I think it's just your enthusiasm for motorcycles), are there any bikes you've tested that you didn't like?
Not really, I liked some less than others though - one day I will list them in order!
I took my license here in Denmark on a Yamaha MT-07 and the new Suzuki SV650 and now I own an Yamaha XJ6 Diversion as my first bike.
Im sure it couldnt hurt anyone learning on a 125cc but learning on +600cc machines didnt cause any trouble for me at all. I actually think I would prefer it that way rater than learning on a small bike and then being on my own when I upgrade to a larger motor :)
I agree, or even make it 250 or 300cc....
SunzOffski The rules are the same in Denmark I think its an european thing, but I got my license at the age of 29 so no restriction even though Im still a rookie. Makes little sense to me :)
I have the same red Yamaha ys 125. Made in 2020. New bike. And it's great :)
@@SylhetyTraveler yes
If the Yamaha website specs are correct they say 0.2 litres per 100km....so roughly 130-140mpg....14 litre tank...just over 3 uk gallons so even if it did 100mpg that's still 300 miles before fill up....pretty impressive as usually these bikes only have 9/10 litre tanks....cracking looking bike....got to love a 125....great review as always👍
Cheers (and thanks for the maths!)
You're very welcome Sir! Keep up the good work.
UK and US gallons aren’t the same?! But a mile is still 5,280 feet? If feet are the same? ...Just one more thing I’ve got to translate here.
Very nice review makes me think about having one to just potter around on short trips etc.
Exactly - every garage should have a 125 in it (mine has!)
i started off learning on the ybr125 too, very basic bike, but it's trying to like buy a brand new iphone 4 in 2018, it works and it's cheap af but really no thanks...
Tony Tng Indeed. Tbh if I was 18 y/o I would definitely go for a duke/rc 125 or mt-125 with 15 hp, abs and 6 gears. I’m 22 now and had a cbf 125, ninja 300 and currently have an xj6-n. My only regret is not buying those higher-end 125’s when I was 18. :p
If you are stuck for a whole 2 years you may aswel have the best. I would go wr125x
I've got this one at the moment as a courtesy bike (RIP my little 14 reg ybr) I hated it at first compared to my ybr. Got the clutch sorted as the bite was right at the end of my fingers! Their Standard footpegs are alot bigger than the ybr which I found difficult when putting the kickstand down and just generally moving it around (seated or pushing) got to say I love the gears and the dash (easy to find neutral and had no false so far)! As mentioned in the video I feel the same about my knees being high up and I'm only 5ft4! Still definitely considering getting one once my claim comes through (and will mod the clutch and footrests!)
Love your channel.Thank you. I learned on a Yamaha YBR-G 125 and absolutely love it.I wonder if they sell that motorbike here in Central America.Probably expensive
Thanks for watching Sven!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Please continue making these amazing videos.Love to learn and also see you ride.It is soothing,relaxing and enjoyable.
btw nice to see Derby :) and ofcose nice review thank you
I'd be interested to see a comparison with ybr for acceleration to 60, plus top end, and max speed up 15% incline. A lot of the 125s I feel put you in just as much danger for the lack of ability to get out of trouble forward (as in pull away from a bad situation rather than brake behind it - for example a car suddenly changing lanes in front could be cleared with acceleration, as opposed to heavy braking which is usually your only choice on a 125 therefore risking being smushed by the car behind)
I tend to agree with that - 125cc isn't really enough power for the road, I think you need a minimum of 250cc if we're forced to go four stroke...
TheMissendenFlyer 250 would also be realistic in terms of learning to ride something more similar to what you will end up on after you pass your test, as it is the difference between a 125 and a 600/650, which most will jump to, is like riding a bicycle compared to the 125. You do learn road skills, sure, but riding skills more specific to the style you will adopt on a bigger bike - you have to learn all that in a couple days training and overwrite all that 125 *rag it to the bone* riding.
At the very least, being able to reliably hit the speed limit on roads you're legally allowed on - being stuck at 40-50 on an incline on a single track A road is dangerous and creates traffic. Alas I doubt the law will change any time soon!
Took my test back in the 80s on a MZ ETZ125 - the only learner-legal bike I could find that didn't make me look like I was riding a circus clown's bike!
That is a problem with these low capacity bikes, they tend to be small don't they...
Yep! I am 5' 10", and I guess I weighed up around 15 - 16 stone back then, and most of the bikes I looked at probably couldn't even have carried my weight, plus my knees would have been up around my elbows... The MZ was a decent bike for the price, if somewhat basic - it was certainly strong enough!
leaners here start on a 650 now it use to be 250cc when I was in Wales in the 80's I remember seeing full fairing bikes but with the 125 motors ......weird but everyone has to start somewhere ay
great vid mate kind regards PHIL
Sounds like my Yamaha TW200 a little bit. Hey have you ever ridden a TW200? You should do a review of one just for fun. They are a lot of fun to ride even though they are slow.
I've never even heard of the TW200 let alone ridden one!
Oh really? Wow I would have thought they would sell them over there. Maybe they don't? There's brand new ones at my Yamaha Dealer here in the USA. It's a dual sport, with fat tires. Low seat, very simple, basically the same since 1986. They lost the kick starter in 2001 and some other minor changes. Very cool and fun bikes excellent for beginners or smaller riders. I bought one last year as my first bike and I will probably never sell it! See if you can ride one sometime, they are a hoot.
hey hey hey, there's tons of stuff to see there! The local Spar, for example, has just been done up
...out of necessity I'm guessing....
You can't beat the 2stroke smell 😍👌
I’m a student 12th grade and I use this bike to commute to school it’s very easy but I crashed it once and the plastic guards on the tank saved it from creating a hole on it very brilliant Yamaha 👍👍👍😘
Hope you were OK?
TheMissendenFlyer I just slide 20 feet across the road nothing serious, but that’s the last time I’m speeding in the rain on metal roads hehehe
TheMissendenFlyer I just slide 20 feet across the road nothing serious, but that’s the last time I’m speeding in the rain on metal roads hehehe
Watching the bike struggle to get past that van at a snail's pace, makes me glad to be in the U.S. and while I agree graduated licensing would be very useful, I am super glad that I can start on a 250 or 300 and still be sane! (though admittedly I did start on a CBR600 years ago - walked right in, plunked down the cash and had to have them deliver it to my house since I didn't know how to ride or have a license)
No ones gives a shit buddy
Would be interesting to compare the Yamaha with the AJS 125 as I believe they are both made in the same Chinese factory! )
Had a YBR125, perfect for learners but gets a bit dull after a while in terms of looks and riding. Easy to fix and got me everywhere I needed to go and had many adventures on it (mine didn't like the heat though). Can't say I like the new tank though but I guess it's the more modern design everyone does now. As for schools using these I wish mine had even the YBR since I had to do my CBT on an 80s or 90s 125 that needed to be near the redline just to do slow maneuvers (this was like 2 years ago by the way).
The place by us still has an N reg cg125 honda with a kick start.
Excellent review
Mom just bought one as her first bike, been riding it a little to practice lots for her until she sits her test tomorrow and it's a really nice little bike. Really cheap bike that honestly doesn't feel cheap at all
Good luck to your mum on the test!
4:18 is that a speed camera?
Hmmm something doesn't quite add up. You say it has a 14l fuel tank, which is 3.1 gallons, and that it will do over 100mpg. Surely that means the range is over 300miles, not 160 like you said?? 9:00
It has unified braking system rather than combined braking.
would’ve been nice with carb and no engine management light
I’ve got a 2017 baby MT. Great wee bike but yes very expensive for a 125.
I do around 150 miles a week on mine riding on A roads, only issues I’ve had on the newer one I’ve got has been electrical.
Funny characters some bikes have though. My first MT started every time in the cold and that was being left outside not covered during winter. My newer one lives in a garage and absolutely hates the cold.....can be a right grumpy bugger when she wants to be!
Get a shot of MT Mr Flyer and see what you think.
Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF
Do you think a 5 foot 6 could put feet properly on ground
Yes I reckon so..
Great informative video
The rear shocks 'are' adjustable. I have to stiffen them to the max as I am 95kg.
I quite enjoyed my two tone grey YBR...
Apart from the 21stC transformer style, basic LED dash and the cast wheels, there doesn't seem much on that bike that wouldn't have been on a decent early 70s 125 roadster. Like the cb125. Oh, FI instead of carbs I guess. None the worse. Yamaha quality is among the best (and real quality not simply 'posh').
Shame the 175 class has long gone - this with 50cc extra and maybe rear disc would be a superb suburban not just urban commuter for those who don't want a scooter.
Yes agreed!
That is why we have 250cc class.
Loving the little burble from that bomb proof engine!
Thanks again ..... A bike to recommend to our starter biker friends ......
Afternoon fella, after realising I can afford the bike I really want I have seen a second hand ys125 within budget. Thanks for this review it’s helped in the thought process.my question here is insurance, I’m new to biking Just got my CBT, but have been driving cars for 15 years plus. Insurers are quoting £600 + for me to insure a 125cc, and I’m astonished. Now I’m not expecting to pay peanuts but double what I pay for my 1.8l civic seems very steep. As a new rider is that what I should be expecting to pay?
Got this bike coming next Wednesday! This’ll be my first bike I’m so excited. Unfortunately didn’t get to do my CBT on a manual bike as the bike I was due to use broke down… is it easy to learn gears and clutch control on this?
Yes no bother - enjoy!
How is the bike? And how's the sound and speed?
Hi what speed would you say she cruises at comfortably
55mph
How does it compare to Honda cb125f? Im torn between the two!
Thank you for the video and Take Care 😎👍🇬🇧.
You're welcome Wayne
I get 500km to a tankful from this bike, so I think you actually meant 300 miles not 300km. Brilliant bike!
yeah i get 300 to 350 miles depending on how much i rag it! around £4.80 per 100 miles from lots of trails using the odemeter.
Great review! Any chance you could get a ride on a Honda CB125F as it is the Yamaha's main rival?
I hope so - stay tuned!
Another great review TMF.
Did my CBT last week on a Kawasaki Z125. I'm 6 foot and found it a bit small.
What is the best 125 for a taller rider?
Congratulations Beverley!! I'm not sure I know I'm afraid....
The honda varadero xl125 is a good bike for taller riders
How did you get on looking for a 125, I’m 6ft3 so understanding the difficulties you face.I see that there is a 125cc bike called the sinnis terrain which is a small capacity adventure type bike, but it does look to be larger than most 125cc bikes.
I carried on and passed to get my full licence. Ended up getting a 650 Interceptor, very happy with it.
If taking tests again I think it’s a good idea to get a 125 , gives you the ability to practice
Are you know,,?,, when it will be come in India?
Looking at one of these. But looks so cheap. Drum brake at back. I then looked at a Lexmoto Viper 125. Which is Chinese but quality feels really good. What's your opinion. The Viper as led lights hugger and disc brakes. 2 year warranty
I don't understand why you don't filter up to the lights, etc? Your putting yourself at risk from rear ending.
Depends how the mood takes me....
In the Netherlands most bikers don't want to be seen dead on a 125cc bike.
A2 license is the minimum but most go straight to the full license so they can buy a 600 or 800cc at least.
It's a bit like that here, luckily there seem to be a lot of sub 600cc bikes coming out, especially around the 300cc mark.
Almost every bike that comes on the market is available here but you won't see much sub-500cc bikes over here.
You flat landers are missing out then, the little KTM Duke is a blast for example! (as is my CRF 250L)
Nice little bike and does what it says on the tin. I had a YBR125 and a CB125F the Honda is better in my opinion although the gearbox was a tad clunky. Both great for around town.
What about the Honda was better do you reckon out of interest?
If I’m completely honest I don’t think there’s a great deal of difference with the exception of the awful exhausts on them both. But Honda have tried to add some shine bit to break up the black unlike the Yamaha. Maybe it’s down to me being a Honda biker and being loyal to Honda (NC750x and a CBR500R) there is a little extra fairing on the Honda as well and the speedo/display is also slightly better. The more I’m writing I feel, the more I’m splitting hairs. Either are great little commuters and learner bikes.
I owned a ybr and used the Honda for while as a courtesy bike with mce I found the Honda looked nicer but the ybr had much better handling and felt better built
i suppose there is no option for a kick starter kit...
Nope - sadly a thing of the past in most cases...
should i buy Yamaha YS 125 or Honda CBF 125? they look same to me. Please is anyone expert here i need advice :)
Yamaha for me!
What about the CB125F, did you get a chance to have a go on that? That said, the new CB125R is sweeeeeet.
Not yet....
Looks quite spindly but I guess that would be right about perfect for a first bike or learner.
Standard gear indicator, VERY NICE.
Agreed
This looks a nice sensible 125 for new bikers to learn on , it’s a far cry from the 2 stroke NS125F I had as a 17 yr old , led flat on the tank with my feet hanging over the rear indicators it was good for over 80 , sounded a bit like an angry wasp with its Nikon power pipe fitted , scary to think it was 30 yrs. ago , it was probably the bike I had the most fun on .
And it’s fun that counts more than HP numbers eh!
Yamaha ys or honda cb125f? which do you prefer and why?
Not ridden the Honda so can't say.....
dpd, nothing wrong with the White van, could be the Hardy jacket on it's way to me! Is the Sinnis still in one piece?
Hehe, the white van thing is only a joke, I'd love one myself with "TMF" emblazoned down the side.....and yes the Sinnis is doing great, even rode it in deep snow over the Christmas break....more vids on that bike soon.