How to Hand Sharpen a Twist Drill

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  • Knowing how to hand sharpen a twist drill is a basic skill every machinist should possess. It will not only save money, it will also enable you to grind better performing tools for use on the lathe and mill.

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  • @kevinblakely7349
    @kevinblakely7349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I've been a machinist for 40 + years....I don't do everything exactly as Tom does.......but what he is showing you.....will certainly work. Watch, listen and learn. This man does know what he is talking about.

  • @rprichard8452
    @rprichard8452 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Very nice job. I've been a machinist since 1973, and I am impressed how well you translated your actions. It is quite hard to show someone how machinists do quick fixes On-The-Fly. Some of your viewers seem to think it's a natural thing and why don't you just say "blah blah", but I don't see thier version on TH-cam. Very few people understand what it takes to get a point across. Pun not intended.

  • @fisherguy12345
    @fisherguy12345 9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    my father was a master tool & die maker .....he taught me how to sharpen drill bits in the shop at 16 years old much the same technique as you are doing now........he started his apprenticeship at age 14 and worked until age 65 at a machine shop then taught at trades school until he was 74 and his eyesight was not so good ......he was so skilled he never had to use the measuring tools himself to check the angles or lengths when sharpening bits or tools ......the other tradesmen used to call him Peter Perfect ........great video !

    • @doright6461
      @doright6461 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Wilbert Michielsen With lots of experience it can be done "bye eye" and be close. Especially on little drills. Personally it is harder for me to do larger ones or tiny ones that way. Plus keeping in mind if you want to go deep improper sharpening can have problems and some probs on diam. even with thin material. It only takes a second to use a protractor n scale or even dial caliper. I throw away babies like up to1/8 or so with the time vs cost and quote for the job in mind plus with a replacement supply of course.

  • @seejayszolc8415
    @seejayszolc8415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I have no idea why anyone gave this video a thumbs down. This was an outstanding explanation of how to sharpen a drill bit effectively.

  • @adriancollins
    @adriancollins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've sharpened my own drills by eye for at least 20 years now and they work 'ok'
    I've just resharpened one of my drills using this method and oh my, what a difference, they cut better now than my shop bought drills, I have a lot of drills to resharpen now.
    Thank you for posting this, I only wish I'd seen it 9 years ago 😊

  • @johnvitz310
    @johnvitz310 9 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I was very successful with using Toms techniques. I also found his teaching instructions very easy to understand and duplicate. I can't stand all you You tube hot heads that criticize a good man sharing knowledge.

    • @rprichard8452
      @rprichard8452 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      True, true, every once in a while I see someone do a proper job and some idiots can't do it, but critique the shit out of it.

    • @rogerbroadwater7084
      @rogerbroadwater7084 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am having trouble getting the 58 degree angle min looks like a permid.am I getting the bit off center need some advise

    • @rogerbroadwater7084
      @rogerbroadwater7084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am not a machinist by any stretch,the reason for sharping bits is I watched a friend try to drill out exhaust studs and now this is what I am doing to learn the art of drill bit sharpening ,thanks for all the help and I am retired dozer operator.

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      @muharremaksoy3220 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @gravityalwayswins1434
    @gravityalwayswins1434 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really superb tutorial by old school guy that knows his stuff. As a carpenter for 43 years I have learned to sharpen all manner of tools, all by hand and eye. This guy is spot on about using your hands and eyes as guides. Gimmick sharpening devices are actually detrimental to developing 'feel' so necessary for sharpening. Great vid. Thumb WAY up.

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Robert.
      Well said about "developing the feel".
      Tom

  • @killerseddie8295
    @killerseddie8295 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Tom. I hadn't sharpened a drill bit in over 10 years so I needed a refresher.

  • @TomsTechniques
    @TomsTechniques  11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    THAT"S what I like to hear Tom! The whole point of making these videos is to hear that someone actually got their hands dirty, applied some of this stuff and learned something while doing it.
    Good job.
    Tom

  • @willingwalers
    @willingwalers 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Tom, I need to add to my previous comment. You have not only saved me loads of money (that I don't have) you have saved my sanity. I have been struggling with blunt drills for about 25 years. I was very good at making real hard work out of drilling into steel, until now. I stopped trying to sharpen the drills, because I only made them worse. You explained it so well I found it easy, at long last. Instead of dreading the thought of drilling into steel, I can't wait to do some more.Thanks for kindly sharing your wisdom. Janette

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Once you get the hang of it, it's kind of fun sharpening them and as you say, you also save a lot of money doing it. Glad you enjoyed the video.
      Be sure to check out my website, tomstechniques.com.
      Tom

  • @Jasta315
    @Jasta315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Have a stockpile of old dull bits in my basement. Just tried this and right off the bat the first bit drills through steel like butter! Thanks for saving me hundreds of dollars worth of old bits!!! Couldnt have been easier!

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's good to hear that a video I made nine years ago is still being used!

    • @marcripoche
      @marcripoche 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It definitely is. I just used your technique to sharpen some old bits of mine. Thank goodness for the Internet and people like you 👍.

    • @leoneddy1492
      @leoneddy1492 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your old drill bits are probably made from decent HSS material

  • @TomsTechniques
    @TomsTechniques  11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is why I do these videos. To hear that someone actually applied what they learned in them is great to hear.
    Thanks!
    Tom

  • @77appyi
    @77appyi 9 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    very good....what i use to get the angel instead of a protractor is 2 hex nuts pushed together..you push the tip of the bit between them ...it also gives you a guide if you have got both sides the same as the 2 nuts will sit wonky if you have not,,so no need to use a ruler

    • @jbbauer0
      @jbbauer0 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +david appleton Good idea

  • @broken1965
    @broken1965 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tom im a machinist well over 30years that was a perfect demo. faster then some mechanical grinders ive used which can burn the edge an soften it, i know used them for drills waste unless your in the business and have lots of resharps of the same sizes to do.

  • @stewart9723
    @stewart9723 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I got taught when I was an apprentice mechanic 50 years ago. My boss taught me to slightly roll the drill bit from the cutting edge, the main thing is practice. I can still do it today, keep at it.

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Conical clearance will work fine (that's the way I learned as well), but faceted clearance angles are a bit easier to grind and generate less heat.
      Thanks for watching.

  • @pamoffa
    @pamoffa 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Tom, I have a drill doctor and got pissed off at it because the grinding wheel wears out so quick so I looked up sharpening a drill bit on youtube and after watching a few good ones I found yours to be the cats ass thanks I was drinking some wine and watching this and had to go to the bench grinder right away to play. I promise I will get good at this because of good people like you sharing your trade

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. It's always good to hear that the videos are being used.
      Tom

  • @yelyab1
    @yelyab1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This guy has done 22X10 power 100,000, yeah it looks easy. I’m 73, engineering degree with honors, had a toolmaker give me a one hour lesson on drill sharpening and I still reduce a 6” long bit to 3” long before I get it right! He discounts his years of experience and knowledge. If you ever have to recreate our civilization make sure you have at least 1000 tool and die makers. They are use to working 7-12s so that should be enough, don’t forget donuts on payday!

  • @haaspapa
    @haaspapa 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excellent! Been doing it that way for decades, only tip I might add, because I work with some pretty large drills that often get really mangled, is remeind folks not to overheat the tip while grinding, tuning it blue or gold, thus softening up, annealing the tool steel.
    Thanks for that

  • @tomasclasson
    @tomasclasson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How can there be 2.1k dislikes of this?! I'd say it is one of the better hand grinding tutorials here.

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks, but out of 8.7 million views, that's only .03%, pretty much on par with other videos. Some people just have to have something to complain about.

  • @maur210
    @maur210 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent instructions! Went through my entire working career as a motor mechanic and never sharpened a drill bit properly till now. Had a great afternoon sharpening about 20 dull bits after viewing your video.
    Cheers

  • @Twistnthewind
    @Twistnthewind 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very good video................clear and concise.................ty

  • @crazyfingers_kc
    @crazyfingers_kc 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im in a trade school for half of my day every day in high school. Im learning to become a metal machinist, so I watched this video to try and get a head start in my class. Thanks for the video, it definately gives me a good idea of what I'll be doing

  • @marvinostman1378
    @marvinostman1378 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I liked your presentation. I have sharpened my own bits for years. I was taught by an elderly (I use that term with the deepest respect. I wish I knew half of what he knew and be able to recall a quarter of what he taught me). one of the first th I ngs he taught me was the easy way to check to check the angle. take two he's nuts and hold two flats together. there's your 120 degrees. put the bit in with the Web parallel with apex of the angle. bring one cutting edge into contact with the wheel with the center of the bit just ever so slightly below 90 degrees. contact the wheel at the center line of the wheel and the cutting edge level. as soon as you contact the wheel start to move the shank of the bit own and to the left at the same time. not too much relief behind the cutting edge. to much relief makes the bit feed too fast causing grabbing and also results in a weak cutting edge. when you add those two things together it is easy to break the bit. you can check the length of the cutting edges seeing how much of the flats of the nuts are showing. pick nuts that have flats as close to the size of the cutting edges as you can. if you did it right when you are done it will look and cut like a new bit fresh out of the package. as for the Web not cutting, he also taught me that on bits much above 5/16 in thicker material use a pilot bit that is one size smaller than the web. my grandfather also taught me to always keep the bit cutting. he said "if you let the bit idle in the hole you will dull even a new it. I am now 60 and have discovered that if us young pups would listen and pay attention first to these wealth of information before we assume we have all the answers. how can we have all the answers when those guys had not yet heard all the questions.

    • @saijames635
      @saijames635 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marvin Ostman Thank you for the tips, is there any chance you could share a few more?

  • @TomsTechniques
    @TomsTechniques  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, brass and plastic require either zero back rake or a slightly blunted cutting edge so they don't screw into the work.
    Glad you enjoyed the video.

  • @scottherr642
    @scottherr642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How could anyone find anything wrong with this tutorial-best I've ever seen on how to sharpen-natural born teacher-thank you sir

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wrong to most negative responders is simply anything other than the way they do it. It's sad to see how many people are not receptive to new ideas.

    • @tmaclee2737
      @tmaclee2737 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TomsTechniques it's always nice on paper...know what I mean.

  • @24-7lockouts9
    @24-7lockouts9 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably the best video online that I've seen, making it look easier than it is, but covering all aspect thoroughly

  • @rabwoody264
    @rabwoody264 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Perfection in motion, skilled craftsmanship, not forced just fluid from years of experience these are the things that are slowly disappearing, thank the lord for TH-cam and thank you sir for sharing..

  • @NoFNclue
    @NoFNclue 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is exactly how I've been doing it for 40 years. Self taught, my Dad always doubted me, but couldn't argue with the results. Single curled chip even on hard metals.... Excellent demonstration...

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks.
      There have been a few "doubting dad's" on here as well, but as you say, you can't argue with the results.
      Glad you enjoyed the demo.
      Tom

  • @dynamikausa
    @dynamikausa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now first of all, Thank You! I tried this technique and it worked like a charm. I wish my teachers showed it to me when I started. Amazing!

  • @stacysimon8864
    @stacysimon8864 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello. I just found your Channel. I been machining for over 20 years as a trade. Of the videos I personally have seen on how to sharpen a drill, you Sir, are at the top of that list. Excellent work.

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Stacy Simon
      Thanks! Hope you enjoy the rest of the channel.
      Tom

  • @tomskinner7306
    @tomskinner7306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Tom, I learned how to do this in 1966 my Grandfather taught me. Nice to relearn. Great Video - only add start with eye protection.

  • @ultrapan64
    @ultrapan64 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best instructions I've seen, I just sharpened a 5/16 drill bit and it cut like new. Thanks

  • @stevenmassey7586
    @stevenmassey7586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was taught the old school way and later learned the facet method. Both are good to know as larger bits 1 1/4 + lend them selves to the conical method especially in a job shop environment.
    Two things I recommend get yourself a drill point gauge w/6"scale 4R preferred. It's just handy as hell and the angle 118° is set and the most common. These are not expensive .
    Secondly do as Tom says and practice practice practice.
    People do things differently it's natural but most machinist sharpen drills the same way as shown.

  • @vekmk2
    @vekmk2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Many thanks , as a 65 year old, ive never been able to sharpen a drill bit, after watching your video ive just been in the workshop and in under a hour ive back to life a box full of bits that I'd saved for a rainy day!!! Many thanks again and best regards, Andy

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Andy, It's good to hear the video was of use to you.

    • @vekmk2
      @vekmk2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TomsTechniques Hi Tom, thanks for the reply, I never really had an engineering background, though my 20!s and up to 40 I was a coal miner, at 40 the coal mine closed and I went into the diving trade until a major injury I received whilst coal mining took its toll, nowadays ive found a passion in making stuff from metal and wood. Your video has been to me the answer of black magic art !!! Thanks again and best regards always, Andy

  • @BrantleySmithNC
    @BrantleySmithNC 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very good, thanks for the effort and instruction. I have always struggled with this and I even get inconsistent results from my Drill Doctor. Now that I understand the concepts and goals we're trying to achieve, I can make it happen.

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Brantley, glad I could help.
      Tom

  • @BoldUniverse
    @BoldUniverse 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant Brilliant Brilliant! Without a doubt the BEST way to sharpen a drill!! I back it up with personal experience!

  • @jaileal8806
    @jaileal8806 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks Tom. Very clear. Appreciate the time and effort put into this. Going to practice this weekend.

  • @guymanicone7921
    @guymanicone7921 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the first video I found that talked about the clearance angle which I found to be the most important part. Finally got my lug drilled out

  • @steviezxr
    @steviezxr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just guessed and it worked brilliantly. I sharpened a broken drill bit and it was better than new.

  • @THOMASTHESAILOR
    @THOMASTHESAILOR 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice Video, I been a machinist for 40 years now. Most people think you have to be a wizard to do that.. Once You understand cutter geometry, it's just a matter of hand/eye coordination..
    Years of practice, 8-10 hours a day 5-1/2 days a week for decades, helps too.

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup. You don't have to play video game to develop good hand/eye coordination.
      Thanks for watching.
      Tom

  • @diggascryptoawarenessdownu7246
    @diggascryptoawarenessdownu7246 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome, it helps so much when teaching anything to explain WHY you're doing what you're doing! A+

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. Knowing "Why" definitely adds validity to learning "how". Thanks for watching.

  • @FAF575
    @FAF575 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is why I never throw away dull bits, in the hopes that one day I would be able to do this without ruining the bit for good! I have tried over the years with limited success and this video just crossed my "t's" and dotted my "i's"! I think I can do this now! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's good to hear that the video helped out.
      Thanks for watching.

  • @drumcdoo9050
    @drumcdoo9050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good tips showing how easy it is for beginners. I tend to roll the drill rather than taking it in two stages which also works well with practice. Using a bench sander works well too in upright position. An overhead spotlight looking directly down helps to get precise angle each time you repeat action along with using permenant marker to draw line on base plate showing correct angle
    On a really knackered drill bit be careful to go in stages to avoid overheating or drill cutting edge will become soft and will quickly become blunt.

  • @TomsTechniques
    @TomsTechniques  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks.
    The ability to hand sharpen a tool is definitely a plus for any machinist.
    Tom

  • @alanporter2694
    @alanporter2694 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I learned to sharpen twist drills when I was an engineering apprentice in a Textile Machinery Manufacturer. I did it a little bit different:- rather than create a series of individual 'flat' angles, I would have an upward and slight rotating motion that created the clearances. Whatever works is good.
    Thanks for sharing

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's the way we were all taught in shop class, but this technique is actually more efficient. Do a little research on multi-faceted drill point geometry to see why I do it this way instead.
      Thanks for watching.

  • @feedinc2735
    @feedinc2735 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I learned how to do this about 15 years ago and haven't practices. I needed a good refresher course. Thanks!

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  11 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, you need to practice to keep the skills current.
      Thanks for watching.
      Tom

  • @gregshea1018
    @gregshea1018 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It was my first job out of school in a fabrication shop.
    But I had forgotten...thanks for the refresher..😊

  • @wrthrash
    @wrthrash 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Many thanks for the great tutorial, fixed three of my formerly useless bits in just under 20 minutes.

  • @gregmccarter2176
    @gregmccarter2176 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I learned many years ago how to sharpen...I just found a 5 gal bucket full of drill bits..every size there is...most of them are made in USA old stuff, but good brands..millerfalls etc. So far I have 50 good as new bits....most people just toss drill bits...

  • @SkidinDingo
    @SkidinDingo 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    im glad i saw your comment. you know more than me, surely, and whenever i see someone working with stuff like table and band saws, grinders, anything like that with leather gloves for "protection" it has only made me thing "wouldn't the glove catch and pull your hand into the saw/grinder/whatever?" and you just proved my point.

  • @narddawg2718
    @narddawg2718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, thanks! I’ve quickly learned it requires lots of practice and much PATIENCE sharpening bits

  • @TomsTechniques
    @TomsTechniques  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ability to hand sharpen a drill bit is a basic skill, and one of the first skills I learned as a machinist. I make it look easy because I've been doing it for so long. The faceted clearance angles demonstrated in the video is much easier for the beginner to master than the rolled clearance commonly taught. Get your hands dirty and try it out, it's the only way to learn.
    Tom

  • @tammineuman5983
    @tammineuman5983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If in a bind, placing two nuts flat to flat, gives a 120° angle for reference.

    • @astc593
      @astc593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! A nice trick to remember.

  • @thegoodguy7978
    @thegoodguy7978 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been buying new drill bits every time i needed a sharp one for years ,, I will certainly give this a try THANKS

    • @GrammarNazi0000
      @GrammarNazi0000 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for actually calling it a "bit."

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +GrammarNazi0000
      Am I missing something???

    • @thegoodguy7978
      @thegoodguy7978 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Toms Techniques Of course !

    • @thegoodguy7978
      @thegoodguy7978 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      GrammarNazi0000 No problem !

  • @glencoughlan2209
    @glencoughlan2209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tom, anyone ever told you that you sound like Kevin Costner ? anyhow, ignore the trolls that have nothing better to do than leave a negative or facetious remark on the interestingly put together tutorials you have taken the time and consideration to educate those that have boxes of twist drill bits that accumulate and never see a wheel stone. Keep up the good work and enjoy what your doing. Ignore the pods.

  • @TJ-jx6dx
    @TJ-jx6dx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My teacher couldn't show me this is. 6hrs...you taught it to me in 11mins.
    Thank you.

  • @nicksim1602
    @nicksim1602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent demonstration. Thank-you Tom.

  • @harley121
    @harley121 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, Very informative. My dad was a tool & die maker, he sharpened all our bits. Now its my turn and your video really helped me to recall how its done. Many thanks! Bob R.

  • @Golfing422
    @Golfing422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been grinding drills for 30 years, some as large as 2" in diameter. How you know you've done them right is the drill will cut the hole to size. If one side is longer, the hole will be larger which is good if you want slightly bigger. It's best to learn how to roll the clearance and count for each side to get them even. Using the side of the wheel is also a nice place to roll. You can rough the clearance on the front and roll on the side to finish.

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I used to grind my drills with conical clearance as well, until I discovered the benefits of multi-faceted technology. Check out the following article by Joseph Mazoff:
      www.newmantools.com/machines/drillpoint.html

  • @danielhanawalt4998
    @danielhanawalt4998 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After watching several videos comparing various drill bit sharpening machines and the prices for them, the bench grinder seems the most practical by far since it can be used for other things, not just sharpening drill bits. So it will take some practice but from what I've seen the results are at least as good with the bench grinder and the most cost effective. Nice work on your video and explaining how to do sharpen bits.

  • @davidskipperskip5403
    @davidskipperskip5403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very nice explanation thank you!!

  • @malochala
    @malochala 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently taught myself how to do this as I got tired of having to get new drill bits all the time. I was surprised at how easy it is to sharpen a drill bit successfully. As Tom has illustrated here, the critical thing is to pay attention to the angles and keep them consistent.
    This is an excellent video!

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Mark Lochala
      Thanks for watching Mark.
      Tom

  • @TomHaroldArt
    @TomHaroldArt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this tutorial. I work in a stainless sheet metal shop, and we are forever dulling bits, as you can imagine. I've been shown a couple times, but never thoroughly, and there's only one guy in the shop that can do it predictably well. Now I need to practice, and since I do my art in stainless at home, I've dulled plenty of bits there as well. I appreciated the tips on hand positioning and bit position on the wheel. That's what I was trying to figure out today! I was trying to do a couple at work, and for the life of me couldn't figure out how I somehow kept putting the wrong ramp on the grind, with the back side of it being level or even higher than the front edge. I'm sure I had the bit held too low on the wheel.

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Tom.
      Drill sharpening takes good hand/eye coordination, but that comes with practice.
      Tom

  • @killawatt8243
    @killawatt8243 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you a machinist job never goes away or is lost in the trade world

  • @dennishein2812
    @dennishein2812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always freehand sharpened my bits. I went by the angle the bit originally had and sometimes I did change it some. I didn’t use a protractor or ruler but I wasn’t a machinist. I was a diesel mechanic. I did have a machinist teach me how to notch the bit so it cut faster and lasted longer. It worked great when working on frame rails. You called it thinning the web.

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't use a ruler or protractor either, but I've been hand sharpening drills since the 60's. However, I do recommend using them for those developing their skills.

    • @dennishein2812
      @dennishein2812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TomsTechniques I agree, it takes time to develop the eye and feel.

  • @johnbentley4922
    @johnbentley4922 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us (me) beginners. I rely on you videos very much and hope you continue sharing. Thank you

  • @SilverMiraii
    @SilverMiraii 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very useful video, didn't know you can sharpen bits like that, thought I need a special tool.
    As for the angle, I just eyeballed it and it worked fine.
    Had to resharpen it a few times because I drilled two stainless steel knives and they were tough af.

  • @emiliog.4432
    @emiliog.4432 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent teaching. This is a good basic skill to learn and master. Thanks Tom. Keep 'em coming!

  • @prodoverjeff2876
    @prodoverjeff2876 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your grinding technique is nearly identical to mine, I've done thousands in 40 years. Here's a tip. To get that last fraction of a degree, the last few thousandths of lip, I shut the wheel off and touch the drill as it slows down. Lots of control, easier to get the results I want. Great finish, too. I often do the same thing when thinning the web, for the same reason

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. I'll have to give that a try.

    • @prodoverjeff2876
      @prodoverjeff2876 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What I like about it is things are happening just like they normally would, only slower. Mistakes are more easily avoided. Too much coffee can make my hands shake, slowing the wheel helps.

  • @jamesculp3622
    @jamesculp3622 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Most videos don't make or speak about that secondary cut or the third. Thank you for covering those.

  • @dadejazzba402
    @dadejazzba402 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The best explanation I've seen...good job

  • @manosparavida3551
    @manosparavida3551 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    An old engineer taught me how to sharpen drill bits when i was 16. Several decades on and guys in the workshop still ask me to sharpen drills for them. I can also resharpen rotary cutter bits for mag-drills. i.e. Rotorbroach, Jancy Slugger etc, etc.

  • @freestyla101
    @freestyla101 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing. Easily the best video on the topic

  • @joentexas
    @joentexas 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An engineering school I attended in the '70's had us twist the drill after we had establish the angle and length. Twisting the drill as we fed the drill gently into the grinder to lower the heel of the flute. Seemed to bring dull drills back into service. Thanks though, it's been awhile.

  • @donyboy73
    @donyboy73 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    nice job, I have to try this method

  • @hhoward14
    @hhoward14 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Tom.
    First rate guide for those of us that struggle with this.
    From Scotland.

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad the video has lessened your struggles.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @andrewmckeag2025
    @andrewmckeag2025 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi if you hold two hex nuts together they have an angle of 120 degrees if you don't have your protractor handy and its only 2 degrees out!

  • @TomsTechniques
    @TomsTechniques  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, I have been doing it a long time but like anything else, hand grinding has to be practiced to get good at it.
    I was teaching in the 70's, but I never wore a neck tie, gloves or a ring for that matter. In fact, the wedding ring is still safely stowed in my tool box.

    • @Fanta....
      @Fanta.... 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The last thing you want is your ring on when you're plowing hoes at night. they be slippery lil thieves.

  • @irishtino1595
    @irishtino1595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    we own a company that makes machines that sharpen and reshape drills, and every kind of cutter under the sun. i just bring my destroyed drills to the factory and they are automatically done in minutes (granted some of the units cost 6 or 7 figures). i appreciate the talent of craftsmen who can eyeball a bit and grind it out!

    • @langora5804
      @langora5804 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jim Alley keep it up brother. Consistency is key!

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty amazing to see him get his targeted angles so precisely and quickly.

  • @nooki1102
    @nooki1102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Worked beautifully.. I recovered about 6 big expensive bits this morning that have been in the draw for years. Thanks

  • @MyNewUserName47
    @MyNewUserName47 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    my Dad sharpened drill bits on bench grinders for many years dating back from the late 40s when he worked in a shipyard. he would sharpen bits based on what he was doing with them, some stuff he rolled them, for other things multi-faceted.
    the larger bits, over about 2 inch he would clamp in a vice & use a hand grinder. once done he didn't have problems with them drilling over sized holes.
    on my best day i never was as good at as he was on a bad day.
    in his later years he did start to have problems with smaller bits being off center, his eyes were not what they use to be. i got him a Drill Doctor which he did use & liked it for the most part, but it did take him longer to sharpen a bit with it than what it did when he had good eyes.
    some of the places he worked were like some people here "you can't properly sharpen drill bits on a grinder",.. cause of that he had more high quality drill bits than some shops.

  • @jvpa7125
    @jvpa7125 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see a craftsman do a real job this is how I was told to sharpen a drill over 38 years but I reduce the chisel point with a rad still sharpening drills I must have done hundreds over the years

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I definitely becomes second nature after a while. I check every drill before I use it and if necessary, take a few seconds to give it a quick touch-up.
      Tom

  • @toddjacobs5660
    @toddjacobs5660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You do a machine quality job on yr sharpening skills, i can do a pretty good job, but i watched yr video again because im going to sharpen all my bits today & want to do as good as possible 👍

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you are going to sharpen a lot of drill bits, be sure to spot check a few as you go. Look for how easy they feed, equal size chips coming from each cutting edge, and acurately sized holes.

  • @apached343
    @apached343 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As an apprentice we were taught by having to practice after watching an instructor. Your step by step explanation makes the whole process so much easier to replicate. Thanks..

  • @xPixelationNationx
    @xPixelationNationx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very helpful thank you

  • @51diogenes
    @51diogenes 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video: Clear, concise, and to the point. Thanks for posting this.

  • @Jeff-kr2xw
    @Jeff-kr2xw 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    great info ..and you didnt yack just to hear yourself talk,theres alot of those out there..thanks

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Jeff Smith
      Thanks Jeff

    • @Chuffin_ell
      @Chuffin_ell 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is exactly what I was thinking, and why I'm here.....

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Chuffing Ale
      Don't know about you, but I get a heck of a lot more done by doing than by talking. :)
      Tom

    • @Jeff-kr2xw
      @Jeff-kr2xw 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      dido kido

  • @garrybasham7882
    @garrybasham7882 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well explained Tom, I have no idea why some people have given you a thumbs down, you get a BIG thumbs up from us.....!

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +GARRY BASHAM
      Thanks Garry.
      I've always felt that an explanation for a thumbs down should be required. What good is criticism without justification? Is it because there is something in the video that the viewer disagreed with or didn't understand, or is it just someone doing it because they can without fear of recourse? No where in real life can you get away with that. Only on TH-cam.
      Tom

  • @charlesarthur1014
    @charlesarthur1014 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First have a square flat sharp grinding wheel. I assume you had this. Never let the bit become hot. Annealing. I ALWAYS have a cup of water for cooling. Smaller drills will heat up fast and anneal the tip (soften). Tool Maker 40 years and ALOT of drill /mill sharpening. Good video and angles used are correct. I always use the corner of the wheel to open up the flute like you did. The flatter the wheel the better the corner.

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was one of the first videos I made, just as sort of an experiment. Never thought it would become so popular. I'm planning on remaking it using a more appropriate wheel and also some better camera work. Check out the red hardness of high speed steel and you will see the fallacy of having to keep the tool cool. Pretty sure you'll find that it doesn't start to lose its hardness until it gets around 1100ºF. In fact, I made a video demonstrating that very point.
      Tom

    • @Spark-Hole
      @Spark-Hole 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good vidio but I think Chuck was right about drill bit can be softening. At the point that stone hit metal local temperature can be very high carbon at the surface combine with oxygen in the air. Make you loose carbon at surface. I normally hand stone after bench grinding that would remove soft low carbon layer and drill would stay sharp longer.

  • @adithmart
    @adithmart 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, I was just thinking about making a video about splitting a point. Very well done. Drill bit looked very nice. Having the skill to split a point is an asset. I would say that this skill may be the deciding factor if you are applying as a machinist. If you can't do this then that is a red flag to a future employer, just my opinion.

  • @andyburnett6490
    @andyburnett6490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m just BARELY starting to think about maybe possibly tinkering with some machine tools and I have been binging your vids as I prep for my first little project. You experience and willingness to put it out for other to benefit from is appreciated.

  • @sprungeredthesnook3892
    @sprungeredthesnook3892 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why have I never thought to sharpen my bits? Smh.. this video just made me kick myself in the ass.

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Incentive is good.
      Thanks for watching

  • @pugwashsecond
    @pugwashsecond 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work Tom, certainly one of the clearest, simplest and best explained videos on the 'mysteries' of twist drill sharpening. Your method is the way I was taught many years ago now and I've used ever since, it has never yet falied to produce a well sharpened tool, again, thanks.

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Peter, I'm glad you liked it.
      Tom

  • @brucemoyers1006
    @brucemoyers1006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Tom's technique is spot on. BUT, Tom didn't get this right the first (or second) time he did it. Tom perfected his art with an ancient secret, PRACTICE. He routinely dulls bits as he uses them all the time. It's the only way to get it right. Grab some "dead" bits at a flea market or use a few of your duplicates. When it is sharpening time, start with a throwaway first, the success rate on the good bits will soar. THEN, reach for a 1/16th bit and try that! Time for you to leave, Grasshopper.

  • @buddyh17
    @buddyh17 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is one of the best videos i have seen yet

  • @thomaspasqualone7584
    @thomaspasqualone7584 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. Just wondering though, you made no mention of truing up the face of the grinding wheel. Your thoughts please?

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Thomas Pasqualone
      I just do it as needed. If the face starts cupping or I need a nice sharp corner on the wheel, I'll clean it up with a star wheel dresser for coarse wheels or a silicon carbide dressing stick for the fine ones.
      Tom

  • @Oldbugssy
    @Oldbugssy 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Tom for this straightforward technique. Dull and improperly sharpened bits cost many hours of work over time with less than desirable results. I told the boss to stop buying so many new drill bits. I can save us some cash and get back in production faster if I don't have to struggle with a repair. Subscribed!

  • @cnccarving
    @cnccarving 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    grab a handful of bit
    practice 100-200 times
    then you kno weverything
    thats how we learnt in the early 70's

  • @fgleich
    @fgleich 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanted to see how well that drill cut metal. You show some easy to learn, quick and effective techniques. Thank you :)

  • @TechTins_Projects
    @TechTins_Projects 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Should you use water to quench to avoid losing the tempor

    • @TomsTechniques
      @TomsTechniques  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not true. High speed steel bits can get red hot without losing their hardness. Check out my video on the subject of red hardness: th-cam.com/video/jQ648eDA7V4/w-d-xo.html

    • @haldyordan2316
      @haldyordan2316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TomsTechniques Good point! 👍