I'd like the devs to speak out on what they are seeing in the community and their plans for the future in general, I guess what WuWa does, I know it's early, but just saying.
Tbh I'd love random maps to fight on, and for trying out all the units: there are so many units that I would love to use, and I'd also love it if we could get more commons, rares and epics later, like the Luccian fighters and such.
imo they'd earn more if they have good value packages, there are only 3-4 packages that worth for casual players, the rest are mostly for dolphins or whales.
Someone brought this up in the last video but we NEED to be able to do memory retrieval twice a day, or once with double rewards. The extra shards are only needed for this next 6 months during the accelerated banner schedule. All the upcoming T0s require high stars to be their best and my Gloria, Col etc aren’t even at 3 stars yet. As was said yesterday we get the same amount of shards as CN/TW but with only half the time, and unlike powder/ores/stars etc we’re not getting any extra from these events to help out
@@seekeroftruth45 yeah that’s probably why they haven’t boosted the rates to begin with, unfortunately. I’ve already spent over $300 dollars which is enough for all the characters I want but I’m not pulling for max dupes. This is a problem for everyone apart from true whales. You literally need to pull 3 dupes per character released to make up for the difference in time. Half the time = half the shards (150/300) which is pulling the new character and then 3 50 shard dupes..
@@Nova_501 The banner pull rate is 50% so you're gonna get some characters you want eventually. The main issue is the banner length period and the lack of solo reruns.
Have you been playing since day 1?i started at launch and reroll for gloria col and beryl and they are all pretty much at three stars now,haven’t spend a dime and i’m been playing pretty slow
@@MinhucVoPham not quite, maybe day 3? Soon enough to get the 5 million accounts 10 pull anyway. I also rerolled for Gloria, beryl and Col. Got inanna with the selector and nonowill and iggy too. The first 4 are all 2 star, Gloria Col and inanna are all over half way to 3 star. I have 350 pulls saved at the moment, waiting for cocoa, saffiyah, homa and maybe Auguste if I’m lucky with the first ones. Which I haven’t been since the reroll, spent over 100 pulls fishing for Edda with no luck. But means I’m guaranteed the next debut SSR in 70 pulls. Cocoa, saffiyah, auguste and homa all need to be 4/5 star for them to be great. I won’t have room/time to get all the shards for them and my current characters since they’ll all drop in the next few months…
Spiral of destiny is amazing. When I'm out of energy I just spend time there. And at account lvl 44 most of my energy is quickly spent on sweeping for gear dust. So after like 20 min I'm in spirals. Lmao.
As gritty as unnecessarily sad as the story can be. The story is actually one of the key things I enjoy the most. I have always wanted a new story with long term character progression after story for a tactics advanced game.
I was really surprised by what they made for the first month as well. And we are all still waiting for those T0 units so I hope it can keep up that pace. I've been really enjoying the game thus far. And I was more excited they gave us radiant powder for that rewards in the mail than the gem currency. And I just hit level 50 too so I'm the same with how low I am on upgrading gear to 60 too. It is quite rough so it is nice that the event has resources for that.
Congratulations to the devs! The game is very niche but I never expected it to earn this much. But yes, it is hars for us f2p. I made a couple of pulls during Eda's banner and got 2 off banners, oof
This game literally f2p unless you play pvp. Anyway SoC really 1 of the best gacha ever cause it's easy to get pity. Got 2x Danta, Nungal, 2x Col, Beryl, Edda. Really enjoy it so far, the only problem is endurance
I choose to have union faction....so simona it is and auguste...will be mine. but for sure I think we don't really have to pull for "tier 0" char. I personally like simona and she is just my cup of tea....while saffiyah is also good, I don't have other unit in the hanged man banner....so saffiyah really go down on my priority so fast.....IF I have nungal and nengal...then yeah I will pull for safiyah...but since I have gloria (the goat), so yeah.....hope to have teadon now LOL
I love FFTA and SOC was the closest but I stopped playing it because I had to wait 8 months for a pity, very close events from others and the excessive use of stamina in everything, the banners were the straw that broke the camel's back I don't like it Not being able to choose the character at all, I wanted Col and I got a second copy of Beryl xd
I'm a dolphin, playing 4 gachas for now... On 3 of those, I have all meta characters, spending between $0 and $50 monthly. By pulling progression and prices, SoC will be the first gacha where I can't keep up with the meta characters (and I mean, only the T0 ~ T0.5 meta characters), even if I spend $200 monthly only on this game (which I did 1st month, but will not, moving forward, if things keep being this way)... It's definitely the most expensive gacha game I've played in last 5 years. I know we can clear most/all PvE content with low rarity units, but let's not fool outselves, this is a gacha game, most players wanna use the new shiny toy and most won't be able to use them at all... I wonder how much the playerbase will drop after the first few months if the devs don't change either prices or event rewards. That's not even considering the resources shortage for the accelerated schedule, even with events back to back we still lose the daily extra rewards we would get by the time we are not getting between banners (specially true for memory shards). I know it's hard to balance out accelerated schedules, but there is much more than just putting back to back events. If something doesn't change, a big portion of the playerbase will left and it will be too late to do something later on, hardly they will come back. Unfortunately, this will be the first gacha game that I, most likely, won't be able to keep up with meta.
Yup, will def happen based on CN/TW revenue trend. Whales can't even keep up at this rate, well their reasoning is a bit different. Whales want to max out 5 stars for every new character, but they release new characters every 2 weeks. And the main thing is the 50/50 + 180 pitty hits hard as fk(for both casual + whales). Someone I know who spends 2k usd/month in CN server just quit lol....
I never whale in any gacha game. I sometimes spend on the battle pass and usually that's it. But SoC will be the first game that I will actually semi whale to pull for the big 3. Assuming I don't get unlucky, I'll probably continue to whale for every T0-T0.5 unit that will come out. The big difference with SoC and other gacha games is the shards are farmable and you can farm 3 units at a time. Most games have none and require you to spend an insane amount of money just to max a SINGLE unit, looking at you Wuwa. Snowbreak you can farm 2 at a time but it's like 6-8 months iirc to finish and only 2 units. SoC you can do 3 in roughly every 3 months.
I also play Langrisser, which has a pretty similar shard farm system as this, and what makes it nice is once your farms get a bit staggered it seems like you rarely go more than a couple weeks without getting a star on a character. The thing that sucks though is the rate of finishing characters likely won't keep up with the rate at which you acquire them. I've got 12 Legendary units in this game already, so if I stop pulling for characters I'm probably already sitting on over a year worth of shard farming to finish them all up. At some point you either have to start pulling for dupes or just accept that some of your characters will be sitting the bench at 3 stars forever.
Bad news is Signature weapon seems like remove completely purpose of shard farming where u only need pull a character and u can farm their dupe for free to unlock their full potential Now u need pull their Signature which means u need pay to fully unlock character potential now 🤣 Dev need to remove Signature weapon banner and put their Signature like in new stage weapon trial 🙃
@@manyblock4192 that's 1 extra thing to pull and that's way into the future when most people will already have a good number of T0 units. Also other games do that as well which I didn't even consider in what I mentioned above. So going back to my example Wuwa if we want to include sig weps, you need SEVEN copies of a unit plus you need SIX copies of their sig weapon to max them out. 0.6% rate btw. I don't even want to think about how much money you need to throw just to max a unit with their sig weapons in other games. A little bummed SoC also has partial problem but still way less than the norm.
I hope they focus on pvp balance. More free resources and more cool characters are not nearly as useful if you only have a limited number of activities to use them. Pvp is how you eternalize chasing them.
I just noted that Miguel and Leonide is missing their builds in the spreadsheet. I just pulled them tring to pull for Simona 😢 Do u plan to update de builds part and add epics too??
That is about where I'm at. A month into it and it seems like I'm already stacking up more and more days where I log in for 5 minutes a couple times to burn off energy and do my dailies and beyond that...not really anything going on.
I'm probably at my luck limit, having gotten Edda on my 5th 10 pull and Dimona on my 1st. I have 9 10 pulld left. I have a feeling Cocoa is probably going to wipe out those reserves, and then I'll join the starvation party. I do hope for a more balanced approach to resources, as the accelerated banner rate is going to get quite painful.
After many rerolls i found a very great account: I got nungal, nonowill and garcia in the second multi in the beginner banner, then in 20 more pulls i got Gloria. Beryl in another 50 pulls, Inanna in the banner of Samantha and Dantalion losing 75 25 (how lucky!) ten pulls later, Guzman in the banner of Beryl and Cole in the next 10 again (losing 75 25). then Col in the next 40. I won the 75 25 in the Liliwill and Alexey banner after 3 more multies and got Alexei. Then i made another 60 pulls and get nothing. However, i took 9 legendary in 180 pulls (now with the last 60 i'm at 240) and i got 70 pulls yet to do (i'm completely f2p by the way).
I'd like the devs to speak out on what they are seeing in the community and their plans for the future in general, I guess what WuWa does, I know it's early, but just saying.
Maybe next year
Tbh I'd love random maps to fight on, and for trying out all the units: there are so many units that I would love to use, and I'd also love it if we could get more commons, rares and epics later, like the Luccian fighters and such.
I hope they'll make constant dev talks like hoyo does. It's a good way to keep up with the pb
I kinda wish there were regional prices, 5$ is quite a Lot here in South America
As a brazilian, blame our communist continent for the worthless paper we call money.
too many people can spoof their location to get the discount
Apart from the low f2p currency given out the game is great
Yea they are not generous
And the rates are a bitch too
We will see next month, my bet is most of that money was legendary selector.
Yup, possible people buy selector for Inanna, unless the Dev gonna release new princess monthly otherwise we may expect the money is drop next month 😅
imo they'd earn more if they have good value packages, there are only 3-4 packages that worth for casual players, the rest are mostly for dolphins or whales.
Someone brought this up in the last video but we NEED to be able to do memory retrieval twice a day, or once with double rewards. The extra shards are only needed for this next 6 months during the accelerated banner schedule.
All the upcoming T0s require high stars to be their best and my Gloria, Col etc aren’t even at 3 stars yet. As was said yesterday we get the same amount of shards as CN/TW but with only half the time, and unlike powder/ores/stars etc we’re not getting any extra from these events to help out
Simple. Spend money.
@@seekeroftruth45 yeah that’s probably why they haven’t boosted the rates to begin with, unfortunately. I’ve already spent over $300 dollars which is enough for all the characters I want but I’m not pulling for max dupes.
This is a problem for everyone apart from true whales. You literally need to pull 3 dupes per character released to make up for the difference in time. Half the time = half the shards (150/300) which is pulling the new character and then 3 50 shard dupes..
@@Nova_501 The banner pull rate is 50% so you're gonna get some characters you want eventually. The main issue is the banner length period and the lack of solo reruns.
Have you been playing since day 1?i started at launch and reroll for gloria col and beryl and they are all pretty much at three stars now,haven’t spend a dime and i’m been playing pretty slow
@@MinhucVoPham not quite, maybe day 3? Soon enough to get the 5 million accounts 10 pull anyway.
I also rerolled for Gloria, beryl and Col. Got inanna with the selector and nonowill and iggy too. The first 4 are all 2 star, Gloria Col and inanna are all over half way to 3 star. I have 350 pulls saved at the moment, waiting for cocoa, saffiyah, homa and maybe Auguste if I’m lucky with the first ones.
Which I haven’t been since the reroll, spent over 100 pulls fishing for Edda with no luck. But means I’m guaranteed the next debut SSR in 70 pulls.
Cocoa, saffiyah, auguste and homa all need to be 4/5 star for them to be great. I won’t have room/time to get all the shards for them and my current characters since they’ll all drop in the next few months…
Spiral of destiny is amazing. When I'm out of energy I just spend time there. And at account lvl 44 most of my energy is quickly spent on sweeping for gear dust. So after like 20 min I'm in spirals. Lmao.
As gritty as unnecessarily sad as the story can be.
The story is actually one of the key things I enjoy the most.
I have always wanted a new story with long term character progression after story for a tactics advanced game.
The localization is mediocre at best
1:00 Bro called me old in 36 languages 😭
I was really surprised by what they made for the first month as well. And we are all still waiting for those T0 units so I hope it can keep up that pace. I've been really enjoying the game thus far. And I was more excited they gave us radiant powder for that rewards in the mail than the gem currency. And I just hit level 50 too so I'm the same with how low I am on upgrading gear to 60 too. It is quite rough so it is nice that the event has resources for that.
Really hope I’ll be able to get one copy of every character down the line.
Please do the survey for the gems, It's driving me crazy xD
Congratulations to the devs! The game is very niche but I never expected it to earn this much.
But yes, it is hars for us f2p. I made a couple of pulls during Eda's banner and got 2 off banners, oof
Just save for pity
It's better for us f2p as long you don't care about pvp
This game literally f2p unless you play pvp. Anyway SoC really 1 of the best gacha ever cause it's easy to get pity. Got 2x Danta, Nungal, 2x Col, Beryl, Edda. Really enjoy it so far, the only problem is endurance
@@nubiiiiinot everyone had that luck i believe. Some just got too much Legendary male Character in 180 summon that they rage quit the game...
@@nubiiiiihow did you get so much pills as a f2p
JP carry this game's revenue, no doubt due to their familiarity with FFT n Tactic Ogre.
Where do we go to input codes
I choose to have union faction....so simona it is and auguste...will be mine. but for sure I think we don't really have to pull for "tier 0" char. I personally like simona and she is just my cup of tea....while saffiyah is also good, I don't have other unit in the hanged man banner....so saffiyah really go down on my priority so fast.....IF I have nungal and nengal...then yeah I will pull for safiyah...but since I have gloria (the goat), so yeah.....hope to have teadon now LOL
also decide to collect union units but decided to save for auguste and skip simona for now..
@@heyitshei100 I pray that you will get auguste in under 5 multi pull
I love FFTA and SOC was the closest but I stopped playing it because I had to wait 8 months for a pity, very close events from others and the excessive use of stamina in everything, the banners were the straw that broke the camel's back I don't like it Not being able to choose the character at all, I wanted Col and I got a second copy of Beryl xd
Can you talk about destined banners next? F2p players are really looking for destined banners
I love spiral of destiny more honestly.... My question is do CN server have update for spiral of destiny story?
I'm a dolphin, playing 4 gachas for now... On 3 of those, I have all meta characters, spending between $0 and $50 monthly. By pulling progression and prices, SoC will be the first gacha where I can't keep up with the meta characters (and I mean, only the T0 ~ T0.5 meta characters), even if I spend $200 monthly only on this game (which I did 1st month, but will not, moving forward, if things keep being this way)... It's definitely the most expensive gacha game I've played in last 5 years. I know we can clear most/all PvE content with low rarity units, but let's not fool outselves, this is a gacha game, most players wanna use the new shiny toy and most won't be able to use them at all... I wonder how much the playerbase will drop after the first few months if the devs don't change either prices or event rewards. That's not even considering the resources shortage for the accelerated schedule, even with events back to back we still lose the daily extra rewards we would get by the time we are not getting between banners (specially true for memory shards). I know it's hard to balance out accelerated schedules, but there is much more than just putting back to back events. If something doesn't change, a big portion of the playerbase will left and it will be too late to do something later on, hardly they will come back. Unfortunately, this will be the first gacha game that I, most likely, won't be able to keep up with meta.
Yup, will def happen based on CN/TW revenue trend. Whales can't even keep up at this rate, well their reasoning is a bit different. Whales want to max out 5 stars for every new character, but they release new characters every 2 weeks. And the main thing is the 50/50 + 180 pitty hits hard as fk(for both casual + whales). Someone I know who spends 2k usd/month in CN server just quit lol....
@@RR-RCBNo way they quit one of the best upcoming gacha games imagine 💀💀💀 they will comeback in a year and have huge regret
No cap I also got Gloria, Edda, Simona and Beryl all in under 60 pulls
I never whale in any gacha game. I sometimes spend on the battle pass and usually that's it. But SoC will be the first game that I will actually semi whale to pull for the big 3. Assuming I don't get unlucky, I'll probably continue to whale for every T0-T0.5 unit that will come out.
The big difference with SoC and other gacha games is the shards are farmable and you can farm 3 units at a time. Most games have none and require you to spend an insane amount of money just to max a SINGLE unit, looking at you Wuwa. Snowbreak you can farm 2 at a time but it's like 6-8 months iirc to finish and only 2 units. SoC you can do 3 in roughly every 3 months.
I also play Langrisser, which has a pretty similar shard farm system as this, and what makes it nice is once your farms get a bit staggered it seems like you rarely go more than a couple weeks without getting a star on a character.
The thing that sucks though is the rate of finishing characters likely won't keep up with the rate at which you acquire them. I've got 12 Legendary units in this game already, so if I stop pulling for characters I'm probably already sitting on over a year worth of shard farming to finish them all up. At some point you either have to start pulling for dupes or just accept that some of your characters will be sitting the bench at 3 stars forever.
Bad news is Signature weapon seems like remove completely purpose of shard farming where u only need pull a character and u can farm their dupe for free to unlock their full potential
Now u need pull their Signature which means u need pay to fully unlock character potential now 🤣
Dev need to remove Signature weapon banner and put their Signature like in new stage weapon trial 🙃
@@manyblock4192 that's 1 extra thing to pull and that's way into the future when most people will already have a good number of T0 units. Also other games do that as well which I didn't even consider in what I mentioned above.
So going back to my example Wuwa if we want to include sig weps, you need SEVEN copies of a unit plus you need SIX copies of their sig weapon to max them out. 0.6% rate btw. I don't even want to think about how much money you need to throw just to max a unit with their sig weapons in other games.
A little bummed SoC also has partial problem but still way less than the norm.
Am spending the event currancy on legendary ore..
I hope they focus on pvp balance. More free resources and more cool characters are not nearly as useful if you only have a limited number of activities to use them. Pvp is how you eternalize chasing them.
Hope PvP rta go fast i need it
same, but sadly there aren't even rewards for that
@@blepbloop2908 it's good to have rewards but hard to outplay whales :V
Game is good but the freaking selector costs $30.
I just noted that Miguel and Leonide is missing their builds in the spreadsheet.
I just pulled them tring to pull for Simona 😢
Do u plan to update de builds part and add epics too??
Tried rerolling on phone and u can't anymore, cuz u have to wait for it to delete the last account u.u
You do it with the guest accounts.
@@KariyahTheKrow yeah, i dont know why it's bugged, ima link it and try a new guest and see how it goes
The way the force us with this banner but the luxit still still slow as F,.. They sud rwd us with some free summon or something
another streamer leaked, cocoa and ina+Xavier next banners
game is good , not super good but only good, feels like there is not much to do imo. also they starve you from pull currency
That is about where I'm at. A month into it and it seems like I'm already stacking up more and more days where I log in for 5 minutes a couple times to burn off energy and do my dailies and beyond that...not really anything going on.
I'm probably at my luck limit, having gotten Edda on my 5th 10 pull and Dimona on my 1st. I have 9 10 pulld left. I have a feeling Cocoa is probably going to wipe out those reserves, and then I'll join the starvation party.
I do hope for a more balanced approach to resources, as the accelerated banner rate is going to get quite painful.
After many rerolls i found a very great account: I got nungal, nonowill and garcia in the second multi in the beginner banner, then in 20 more pulls i got Gloria. Beryl in another 50 pulls, Inanna in the banner of Samantha and Dantalion losing 75 25 (how lucky!) ten pulls later, Guzman in the banner of Beryl and Cole in the next 10 again (losing 75 25). then Col in the next 40. I won the 75 25 in the Liliwill and Alexey banner after 3 more multies and got Alexei. Then i made another 60 pulls and get nothing. However, i took 9 legendary in 180 pulls (now with the last 60 i'm at 240) and i got 70 pulls yet to do (i'm completely f2p by the way).
Yeah for how expensive this game is 10 mill is no suprise
I pulled Simona 2x a few days ago lol
Stingy af devs