Why does God allow natural disasters?
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- I can’t see any good coming out of a natural disaster. Can you? But can God? Frank’s answer includes the ripple effect (see his book “Stealing from God” for much more on why God allows evil).
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"The Ripple Effect causes me to trust God although I cannot see the outcome" Speaker. What a fine discourse and great analogy!!!!!!!!
'Boom! Butterfly effect!' (Until Dawn, PS4 game quote). Good explanation here by Dr Turek.
Beautiful...just beautiful! Like the "..butterfly effect.." wow. Many thanks.
This is Frank giving an answer because he does not know the answer. He is a Dr. and cannot say he doesn't know. He does not know why there is suffering, anguish, despair on earth and why god allows it and uses it on us. Isaiah 29:13 - The Lord says: “These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught. Matthew 15:9 - They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules. These are things Frank says to make himself feel good. Frank has never had a child kidnapped, raped and beheaded. He has never felt the "business end" of your god's Job attack. You god had Job who was the greatest man on earth according to your god attacked,had his family murdered and your god took away all his wealth and health...just for a bet. Your god is a blood god. He is no better than the Aztecs.
@@bensurrey6836 God allowed the devil to attack Job, not because it was just a bet, because God had a teaching to give Job and all of us, which is the wisdom of God is infinite and we can never know why God does what he does. Job understood why God did what he did, he may not know why, but he understood, he understood that if u are God, u would change everything that is wrong with ur own wisdom, but if u had the wisdom of God u wouldn't change anything.
@@bensurrey6836 Frank when giving his answer about the ripple effect, did admit that he doesn't know why bad things happens, but he knows that whatever the devil meant for evil, God meant it for good. God has a plan for the future. Frank is saying as a human he doesn't know why, but he knows that God allows these things to happen cause God knows something we don't, that is the future
I prayed intensely for my mother to be cured of pancreatic cancer. She died. But 25 years later my husband was supernaturally cured of stage IV metastatic melanoma. He saw his daughters graduate and grow up. He’s still with us in perfect health 18 yrs later.
So why did god kill your mom and spare your dad? Even Satan isn't that cruel.
This is the reason i hate god
and your point is......what does one have to do with the other?
@@robertkauffman8137 Why do you have to be so outright rude with people on TH-cam? Are you normally like this or are you one of those people who gets their jollies from insulting total strangers on SM because you know you could never get away with it so easily in person?
Maybe she meant back when her mother passed away from cancer, it set off a ripple effect in which she otherwise would not have met her current husband who survived a devastating cancer, which restored her family’s faith and perhaps reached even more souls.
Idk if this is the moral of her story, but it is not your place to come along and scrutinize her testimony.
If you don’t have anything positive or valuable to say, say nothing and move on.
@@lynnef9330 People need to use the brain God gave them and not just talk. They can say whatever they want to the whole world. A simple short reply....no name calling, no profanity, no lecture from me, and apparently soomeone needs a safe space?
none of us will ever know or give God credit for all of the evil he ALREADY holds back... think about that.
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What if our perceived(God) is actually just a more evolved and intellectual advanced version of an earlier civilization that evolved into the NEXT level of intelligence necessary to survive the earth cataclysmic events and keep "planting" us ( humans) back on here to just "harvest" us for something else later and REALLY the "scourge" of the universe that SHOULD have NOT made it through YET somehow was ALWAYS destined to do JUST that very thing HOWEVER I'd bet there's ANOTHER one looking down on THEM and waiting to "reset" the whole thing in motion AGAIN and likely ANOTHER watching over THEM....and so on and so on....LOL
@@frankmoser6251 Big brain 🧠
Do you give God the credit for his "delighting" to inflict rape, kidnapping and parental cannibalism (Deut. 28:63)?
I did not see Satan prevented from reaching this world? Or info that Adam and Eve had any idea he existed? I am also waiting to hear what became of Canaanite captives in Numbers 31:17?
Dr Turek is raising the bar of apologetics to an all new high.
GOD bless Dr. Turek with more wisdom
Lol if he keeps raising it at this rate who knows one day it may actually rise out of the gutter.
The truth is that unless God specifically says so, we don't know why He does what He does or allows what He allows. When tragedy strikes, we don't get those answers right away. As believers, we come back to what we know of God. It's not Him that should come down and answer our demands, it's us who should submit to His power, authority and sovereignty over all things. Job is an excellent reference to illustrate the difference between our position and God's position. He is God and we are not.
Ok. Let's pray. God, send us all a SMS with your requests.
Dear Christian Commenters:
You realize that your god belief is obstructing your critical thinking and making you say crazy things?
You say:
God is all knowing so he decided to run a test on Job.
God is everywhere so he went searching for Adam and Eve when they hid from him.
God is all powerful but he needs your support and your worship
or he will retaliate against you.
I say:
God is an imaginary, man made character who does not exist in the world I live in.
James Richard Wiley James Richard Wiley God didn’t run a test on Job. He made a deal with Satan because he knew Job would be faithful. When your parents asked you as a kid “where were you last night?” Or “what time did you get home last night?” It’s not because they didn’t know. And God does not need our support and praise. This is obvious because many do not support him or praise him, yet he is still here and he is the one above all.
Natural disasters are not from God. They are the devil's and demons. God has given man charge over the earth. The Governance depends solely on human . God needs human to help Him come in . He can't break His own principle s
@@CalebMartinPercussion thank you for the reply, was utterly shocked at his last comment, sad.
It rains on the just and the unjust.
yep.. jeeee.. that almost look like a world where no god exists ... Food for thought
So why worship god?
@@bensurrey6836 GODS grace extends to the Just and the unjust. A perfect merciful GOD worthy of worship.
@@believeonjesus7215 Thank you, Believe on Jesus for responding. Have you ever had a kidney stone? Have you ever watched a woman deliver a child? Your god curses Adam to till the earth as well as all of humanity and weevilsYou do not and cannot connect the tortures we all suffer with the fact that god created, thought up, all of the tortures. God created everything that is created. This means he made Job suffer horribly on a
bet. Job was innocent. If he would do that to Job what is keeping him from doing that to you? Doesn't matter how much you tithe, how much you pray, how much you love god, your time will come. God created the common cold so that we cough, especially at night. God made the cold so that when we sinusesimpossible without a very powerful topical numbing agent. These are the elephants in the room Christians do not ever address. What is the purpose of the flea? Why Believe on Jesus are you not in heaven? Ecclesiastes 5:2 (NIV) - "Do not be quick with your mouth, do not be hasty in your heart to utter anything before God. God is in heaven and you are on earth, so let your words be few." In other words this says, "shut your mouth, you are on earth, god is in heaven so what do you know. Proverbs 16:4 (Amplified Bible) - "The LORD has made everything for its own purpose, Even the Columbineshooters. He birthed them to shoot up their high school. God let them shoot innocent children. He is in collusion with Ottis Ellwood Toole who decapitated 7 year old Adam Walsh during their, Ottis and Adam's "day of evil". God's Word Translation - "The LORD has made everything for his own purpose, even wicked people for the day of trouble." Still worthy of worship? Why couldn't god just vanish the Canaanites? Instead he commanded the Israelites to "completely destroy" them in a scorched earth policy. Men, women, children, elderly, infirmed, chickens, donkeys, pets all dead, hacked to death. Did they separate the women and children from the men? Did they kill the children first and then the women? What did they do with the bodies? Did they construct ovens to burn them? Did the Israelites spend days hacking the Canaanites in a bloodbath equal to the Canaanites religion they are being punished for performing? Why didn't the Canaanites fight back? How did they allow themselves to be holocausted? Sin is S - SELF CENTEREDNESS, I - INDIFFERENCE AND N - NEGATIVITY. God sins. He is SELF CENTERED in that all is for his pleasure. He is a "my way or the highway" guy. God does not care about the negative repercussions or ramifications of his acts. He is INDIFFERENT to the suffering he inflicts on humanity and he is NEGATIVE, wrathful and jealous when we do, in his eyes, bad or go against him. You have your beliefs and are stubborn against anything that does not sound or feel like you. In this way you are safe. Rose colored glasses only give you one view. As long as you stay in the safety of what you have created as your religion you do not have to see the world as it is. You believe that religion gives you what you need to know; it supplies everything so you do not need anything else. You are complete in your beliefs. This is hiding from fear not true religion. Your god is not merciful. You need to work in a children's ICU ward for at least 5 years. You will see how "merciful" your god is. I was on god's side for a while. I thought children with cancer were hard lessons for the parents. I used to believe that god infected the children to teach the parents to care, to love, to have empathy. Then it struck me. Why? Why are we tortured with death, disease, money, greed? I too could see that the wicked prosper and the good do not. Then when the good prosper they fight off corruption. If god is loving why treat his children the way he does? It was only at that point where I could see that god infected us before birth with pride, contention, SIN - god created our "Fallen Nature", we are innocent of the Fall but not the life we live on earth. Why aren't you in heaven? Think about it. Your god has placed you on a hostile planet. You share a planet with cannibals, murderers, child rapists, Otty Sanchez ate her babies brain and fingers. She opened the baby's head while it was still alive. Stay in your self constructed beliefs - it's too scary out here. Can you explain to me why Ottis Ellwood Toole ate Adam Walsh's 7 year old body, tossed the head and why Otty Sanchez was allowed to torture and eat her child?
@@bensurrey6836 tldr
Gods patience blows my mind. I am so grateful that I’m still here as I should’ve been done away with (and almost was) many times before. It’s on us to show others the love and patience God has for us. He chooses to use broken people for His good by taking the mess that evil and we have chosen and can work wonders from them. Some things in my life, I can see why they happened, others I let go. Once I let my anger go, I was able to understand way more about God and He reveals something new to me almost every day. People cannot help themselves just as I cannot help myself. God is all that is good.
Of course he is patient. Everything is going according to his plan. Including my dad's throat cancer. Such a good god he is for planning that.
@@2ndPigeon I have had a brain tumor, since I was a child. It kept my father from “disciplining” me… God can use anything for the good for those who love him. God bless your father and your family.
@@austinnevels7447 You think throat cancer is a blessing and a brain thumor is part of disceplining?
What is wrong with you?
@@2ndPigeon no way, you misunderstood. God did not make that stuff happened, but he used my condition to keep my dad from beating me, until he tried and I split. I was just trying to give you an example of the lord using a terrible thing in my life and made something good happen from it. I don’t know why your dad has throat cancer, and it’s not fair. God is near and he will take care of you if you love him. I didn’t mean to set you off. I pray for peace in your life, I know it’s hard believe me from personal experience. Just trying to share the love…
@@austinnevels7447 That just leaves me with more question.
How was that stuff not according to God's plan when everything is suposed to be? That's not biblically accurate.
But your dad eventually did beat you, or at least tried, so how exactly was this a good thing? Why coudn't god just not let your dead beat you instead of giving you a tumor? Even Satan doesn't do something so horrible.
Nothing about this is worthy of worship.
I like when the answers are more bible based. Thank you sir for the good answer.
Same here. That's where we should always start. I find that when I attempt to answer from my own viewpoint that it falls apart until I go to the word of God and start there.
Yes. More fun. Like asking question: If Harry Potter is real, why magic is not used for avoiding causalities of natural disasters?
Maybe they want us not know about their existence.
What answer? All he said: we can't know god mind, and thank him for not hitting us harder. Are we god bettered spouse?
So how do you respond to the biblical answer of Deuteronomy 28:15-63...God not only inflicts kidnapping, rape and parental cannibalism on disobedient people, he also "delights" to inflict such misery no less than he delights to comfort obedient people? Does God "delight" to inflict such misery on disobedient people, yes or no?
If you wouldn't interpret Paul in the light of Augustine, then I don't interpret Deut. 28:63 in the light of Ezekiel 18 or any bible verse that makes God sound more loving. I want to know what 28:63 meant in the estimation of its originally intended addressees, not what it meant according to future evolutions of Judaism hundreds of years afterward Moses said it.
More info on James 3:15 also, and what is or is NOT natural, please.
I would also like to ask of fate of captives in Numbers 31:17...
“Maybe because if He did, He might start with you, with me, because we do evil every day.” Oh my God this gave me chills.
Amen to that!
Me too
I received the same challenging question yesterday. This sentence should exactly be the answer that that person
A man’s wife left him right after they lost everything in the fires of CA two years ago. He worked from home and took care of their two year old. He had overcome alcoholism ten years prior. He was tempted to drink, but he held firm in Jesus Christ. One year later...he and his wife have worked through all their issues, they buy a new house and are very happy now. He has said that the fire pushed them to face their shortcomings and problems and because of it, they are stronger and happier than ever!
You ought to wonder why people don’t wanna look at story’s like this. Satan wants us blinded from the good that is.
1. This shows how stubborn these people are and the bad that has to happen to them so they can see -
assuming they are really happy. 2. They and we have to go through these horrible trials because of god and his curse on humanity. This couple divided because of what god did to them and us through his curse(s). Genesis 3:15 (NIV) - And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers. Their lives were destroyed by god.
@@bensurrey6836 GOD gave a clear instruction - eat everything except 1 tree. Only 1. Think about it, The Tree of Life was among the trees they could eat, and all other trees were equally pleasing in the sight of man, but the devil brought Eve's attention to the only parameter GOD put.
And I love GOD so much because HE is very Loving, detailed and straight to the point - you eat the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and you will die. Period.
But what did Eve do and Adam (who wasn't even tempted but willingly obeyed GOD's creation and gift to him over GOD HIMSELF) do, they ate the only tree that brought spiritual and physical death.
It's just like you. It's the one thing that GOD warns you of, that HE knows will bring you death, that you like. Literally, GOD has so many blessings for you but all HE requires is you trust HIM and obey. That's it. Why the rebellion? Why the hatred?
Their lives weren't destroyed by GOD. Their lives were destroyed by themselves because they transgressed GOD's Divine Law. Don't blame a judge for sentencing a murderer to jail. Rather, the murderer must repent and serve his time for his wrongdoing. That's justice.
But GOD is also Infinitely LOVING that HE is calling you to reconciliation with HIM. HE has washed away your sins and paid your debt of death. Once again, all you have to do is Trust fully and only in Your LORD JESUS CHRIST and obey HIM by forsaking all iniquities and transgressions. That's it. HE will credit HIS Free Divine Righteousness to you so you can enjoy an intimate relationship with our GOD on earth and in Heaven when HE Returns.
Don't be deceived by the devil. Cling to the Only One GOOD and forsake every appearance of evil. JESUS LOVES you! GOD Bless you and we are praying for you!
James 4:8
"Draw near to GOD and HE will Draw near to you. Cleanse your hands ye sinners and purify your hearts ye double-minded."
"All things work for the good for those who love God and are called according to His purpose"
@@bensurrey6836 it's so much easier to blame God and other outside sources for what's wrong in your life than to actually be accountable and accept responsibility for your part, understand that we don't know all ofwhat God does or why He does it and Trust that being perfect He is the correct Judge of right and wrong so whatever you feel God did, if he actually did it was for a purpose even if it's one we don't understand and if a sinless God did it then you know what He did in that moment was not wrong and He knows all and truly understands it's us who don't understand many things about the world, life, after life. Etc we don't understand it, he does yet you want to lecture Him on Hos actions?
Frank is looking at the big picture through the lens of Scripture and that's what we must do, too. Joseph is a great example.
How do you know scripture is true..? We have no original documents at all..The scripture you read is a translation of a translation of a copy of a copy of a copy etc etc..Paul for example,never met Jesus..there are no eye witnesses to the resurrection,all the testimony is 2nd hand.Out side the bible there is arguably no documentation that Jesus ever existed,let alone that he performed miracles or was crucified and the Jesus birth story is a historical disaster area.
Its interesting that Christians often refer to Tacitus as evidence for Jesus' existence..Tacitus wrote in the 3rd quarter of the 1st century..We do not have the original documents,the earliest "copy" we actually have of Tacitus alleged comments on Jesus was written in the 10th century,that's almost 1000yrs later..Can you honestly say that scripture is true...??
I love the way Frank relocates the ripple effect butterfly from South America to 'South Africa'... because that's a really long way away from Murica.
John 16: Jesus said to his disciples..."In this world ye shall have tribulation..."
I pray for everyone who feels troubled and weary. Let the peace of God which surpasses all understanding guard your hearts and minds. I break every chain and stronghold in the name of Jesus
Amen!!
Did anyone ever provide you evidence to prove resurrection & other miracle stories were not made up by anonymous hoaxer Christian writers by falsely passing themselves off as someone who existed years before them from some other place claiming to be eyewitnesses & talking to eyewitnesses?
Atam
Obviously you don't believe in any god at all, but why complain about those that do? This is their choice, isn't it?
Why should you decide what others should believe?
If you don't like hearing christians spout off about God then kindly excuse yourself and move on.
@@RustyGunn7 I defend your right in wanting to believe in stories that help you get through life. I also like to defend your claim that the stories you believe in are facts, but I can't unless you provide evidence to prove they are not just made up stories. So, I ask you again: When you started to believe the religious stories, did you ask anyone to provide you evidence to prove resurrection & other miracle stories were not made up by anonymous hoaxer Christian writers by falsely passing themselves off as someone who existed years before them from some other place claiming to be eyewitnesses & talking to eyewitnesses?
@@AtamMardes did you ask the same thing when you were being taught the big bang and macro-evolution? Your grandparents didn't come from rocks my friend
The movie Where Was God (about the Moore, OK tornado survivors) did a great job dealing with this topic on a personal level rippling out during this particular disaster.
When a tornado rips apart my town and kills my family and friends it only serves to strengthen my faith in a loving and compassionate god.
I guess the takeaway from many of these comments is, “I didn’t get my way therefore there is no God.” :-)
Awww they lost their car keys. Well... Guess God doesn't exist lol
The argument is a lot closer to "I see no evidence to suggest that a god does, or ever has existed."
@@somerandom3247 yeah let's ignore the universe and all his Miraculous Creations. We know a painting had a painter because the painting couldn't have painted itself. No actually if you put some paint and a canvas in a bag and wait a billion years it would paint the Mona Lisa all by itself. Right?
Some Random the operative phrase here being “I see no...”
what exactly would qualify as evidence sufficient to you?
@@choosejesus1910
The good old watchmaker fallacy.
You're awesome Frank! The Williamson family from Australia.. 😃🙏🙂
Nicely done!!
Get some education kid. Put down that bible. first. Talking snakes dont exist
Wow Frank sounds like Ravi Zacharias when he gave that story!!
Interesting observation, they were pretty close friends.
Great explanation Dr. Turek!
Thats a really good biblical answer. Thank you and God bless.
Unfortunately Bible is right just sometimes.
@@johnmakovec5698 its always right
@@HassanMadeov It isn't. Noah's flood didn't happen. Lion - vegetarian - is also silly.
When they were indoctrinating you with religious stuff, did you ask for evidence to prove that resurrection & other miracle stories were not made up by anonymous hoaxer Christian writers by falsely passing themselves off as someone who existed years before them from some other place claiming to be eyewitnesses & talking to eyewitnesses?
@@johnmakovec5698 every single word is true and one day you will remember this. See its cutting you
As an atheist I gotta say he’s a great speaker and an amazing salesman. But a great salesperson can convince people of things that aren’t true. Do you want to believe in things that are true? What method do you go about determining whether or not something is true? Is it reliable? Does it work for other things? To clarify: atheism doesn’t mean holding the belief that god doesn’t exist, rather it means lacking the belief that a god exists. For me, I lack the belief that a god exists because there isn’t enough evidence or reason to support the claim that one does exist.
@Modern Machiavelli Everything I said can be applied to any god, not just the christian god. I care about whether the things I accept as true are true or not. For that reason I wouldn't "find a way around it". As for morality I basically think that actions that improve people's well being are moral.
You say, there is not enough evidence. I say, there is evidence. Whether or not it is enough cannot be objectively evaluated. For half of the population in the world it is, for the other half it's not. And that is consistent for cultures, educational level, gender, ...
@@BizarrePhotoshop Jesus loves you. Please repent and be saved. Have a nice day
Fear not fellow atheist. You are not alone in this comment section.
I too think the same as you.
See you later at the secret atheist meetings that Christians think we attend where we think of ways to kill god in the illuminati headquarters and preform blood rituals together
@@ivoryghost7080 Jesus loves you. Please repent and be saved
awesome response dr.Frank
Wow.. So powerful message
These questions are probably the hardest to explain to an atheist. Now that I see things from the Christian side, I can understand, in the abstract, that pain and suffering may be necessary to lead us stubborn humans to God. But it's extremely easy to reject this on emotional grounds, from the sense that if God can do anything, he can do it without hurting, or even inconveniencing us.
If God really wanted to win us over, he should have tried creating that "ultimate heaven where no suffering or need will be felt" in the first place. 100% success chance.
Instead, he chose to play this cruel, mocking, sadistic game with us as puppets.
God is a cosmic horror, it has nothing to do with love.
@@haitaelpastor976 Hi there!
Creating a perfect paradise in the first place is exactly what God did! The problem is that the first generation of people chose to disobey every single rule that had been set (literally just one simple rule), and the second generation of people decided to proceed with murder. It only got worse and worse from then onwards. God has been working on cleaning up the mess we made, and make, ever since.
And sometimes, cleaning up that mess means doing things that genuinely upset us, even hurt us, in order to solve the much bigger problem: our very, very rotten souls. God's one and only activity with us is to heal us from our own sinful state, without deleting our ability to decide for ourselves. It is a very, very delicate process.
And in case you are thinking about making creatures that do not sin in the first place, He did exactly that. They are called angels. But He also wanted us, the sinful humans, to exist, despite our flaws. So, He made us, and continually endures all the trouble that results from that decision.
I hope this helps. Have a great day!
@@haitaelpastor976 Hi there!
I have excellent news! God anticipated your objection, and therefore, He did *exactly* what you said! He started us off in Paradise, in the Garden of Eden, where no suffering or need was felt in the first place! Unfortunately, it turned out that the success chance was less than 100% after all, but at least that takes away your objection, so now there's nothing stopping you from accepting and receiving His magnificent Grace and Mercy!
PS: I suggest that you go for the Eastern Orthodox Church. It turned out to be the only true Church, the Church which Jesus Christ started in the first place.
@@haitaelpastor976 Good news, my friend! God did exactly that! He started humanity off in Paradise, where no suffering or need was felt!
@@SimpleAmadeus But that was too boring, so he devised this sick game of his.
Isaiah 45:7 KJV
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things". (evil = bad things of calamity like natural disasters, not moral wickedness). Ultimately disasters are from the Lord. It's not fuzzy and fun, but neither is God's attitude towards sin and wickedness. So He brings judgement on this earth as well.
Does the bible say evil= bad things of calamity like natural disasters, not moral wickedness?
This is the part where christians always try 2 avoid n be blind n give excuses
For me, it has to do with free will again. For free will to happen, there need to be two choices. Therefore, God creates these things because they come together. Everything comes in a pair because of free will. If you give the option of love, it would also come with hate. If you gave light, it would come with darkness. WHY? Because darkness is the absence of light. Therefore, hate is the absence of love. God creates things, and because He creates things, there is also the absence of the things He has created. Therefore, your choice isn't to love or hate. Your choice is to have love OR to not have love. You are choosing whether you would like to have what God has created, therefore if you choose to have it, you can have it. But, if you choose not to have it, then you don't have it. You have the absence of the thing God has created. For example, choose not to have love, then you will not have love, love would be absent in your life, and the absence of love is hate. Hate is the absence of love.
@@nothingamlyngdoh.t3883
This is the part where atheists want to be ignorant.
The context refers to calamity, hebrew word refers to calamity and the other translations say calamity and bad things as well
@@fancopy12 Does the bible say evil= bad things of calamity like natural disasters, not moral wickedness? Or youre making this up
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Tribulation: Yes
Sustainance and Reward: A definite and loving Yes
“If you declare with your mouth “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved” (Romans 10:9). Now is the time to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior. Obey His commands and repent of your sins because Jesus is coming back soon. Tomorrow isn’t promised.
Because their are not walking with God they want a blessing but don't want the blessed. I'm on that same boat of trying to overcome my own trials. I pray we all walk with God before it's too late
may Dr. Frank Turek live more years and propagate the word of God more in this evil world!!
Seek Gods will early daily.💕Love Him with all your heart and strength, learn His word and help others.💕
1 John 4:18
Just beware of Jehovah. Jesus is much better.
Do you seek the will of the god who 'delights' to inflict rape, kidnapping and parental cannibalism on people (Deut. 28:15-63, see esp. v. 63 "delight").
Help by filling in gaps as well, if possible.
help others? why ? i mean your god will send them to hell no matter how good they are if they dont believe in your zombie. So why Lisa why oh why do you want to help others when you support that disgusting injustice? You're like a like a german citizen that with a membership to the Nazi party encouraging others to help jewish people in 1930s Germany. Pat yourself on your back
Note to self: Wow good analogy. I'll be sure to use it again.
Note to Lisa: sincere thanks for inspiring me.
The Apostle Paul wrote in Romans 8:28 (KJV) And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
Note he said "all things" not "some things" or "good things".
@Awesome American Atheist Unless you can point to a source for morals, other than yours or someone else's opinion (all moral teachings of any individual or group are all their opinions unless referenced to some kind of divine inspiration), then what's your point? If you don't accept that Paul's teachings are divinely inspired then those words are merely the opinion of a "moist robot" just like you and are just as much of a "moral argument" as any other.
@@sewing1243 Sure. So why quote him?
@@johnmakovec5698 Because I believe his words were divinely inspired.
@@sewing1243 If creator of universe can make universe, why use fallen people write his words with mistakes in soon to be ancient language?
What is the proof of "deviness"?
@@johnmakovec5698 So you get to determine how the creator of the universe is supposed to communicate with humans/you? What moral or ethical standard are you using to come up with that theory/conclusion?
When I was little, my parents and I went through a devastating typhoon. In the wake of that typhoon, the people of the island where we lived saw the love and grace of God first hand. The out pouring of love was so great that it effects people to this day 45 years later.
You call a devastating typhoon love? Why?
@@2ndPigeon For several reasons. First, when it was over, my parents had a chance to send one message back to the States. The message they sent was "We're okay. Everything is fine. We'll write soon." The message my grandparents received was "Everything destroyed. Need supplies." Due to that mix up, my grandparents organized a drive in their respective churches to send care packages to my mom and dad. Second, one of their friends owned a plantation on the south side of the island, an area of the island which got hit the worst. The winds from the typhoon created a sand wall that protected his house from the brunt of the storm, and he and his family rode it out in relative safety. Third, everyone on the island pulled together after the typhoon and pooled their remaining resources to help one another, especially those who lost everything. Fourth, my dad, who was in the Navy at the time and formerly in the Army during Viet Nam, was out in the storm saving women and children who had got caught in a collapsed building. He had a rope tied around his waist, which was held onto by the others of his unit while he went out into the storm. Because of his bravery, he managed to save the lives of over a dozen women and children.
The typhoon was Super Typhoon Pamela, which hit Guam in 1976. It's still registered in the top 10 most devastating typhoons to hit the area. In the midst of God's big show, he showed just how far his love can go for those who believe in him.
@@grahck4391 Tell me how this was an act of love again.
Would you do this if you had the ability?
@@2ndPigeon God shows his love all the time, and many people see that love being revealed at the worst of times. This typhoon helped to shape the man I am today, and I was just a baby at the time. When I've shared this with others, I've heard of similar stories from other people who went through some terrible disasters, such as a story I heard from a survivor of Hurricane Katrina who said the levies held long enough for the people of one community to evacuate, and didn't break until everyone was gone. Another story I heard was during an Earthquake that hit LA back in the 90s. There was a ballgame going on at the stadium, which held together during the quake, and yet engineers said that the stadium should've collapsed. Yes, natural disasters are terrible experiences, and I don't want to go through another typhoon again. However, I and my parents, plus many others have experienced the love of God first hand through many of these disasters.
@@grahck4391 You probably would have turned out much better without your family going through such a horrible disaster.
Have you also heard of stories where people died? Nice that you ignore the horrible things. I bet you woudnt' say the same thing if you found out Satan actually cause the typhoon.
But again, would you do this if you had the ability?
this was great!
I'm Christian but sometimes when I listen it all sounds barmy. I struggle with the hiddeness of God.
We’ve all heard “seeing is believing”, but I propose more often we have to believe first to really see.
Is he hidden? It is easy to look but not see. God is everywhere he is just discreet.
god doesn't promise us healthy, wealthy and security, right now all the problems like natural disaster and human disaster, i have a problem with my health since high school until today im 30+ i have this low potassium problem every month that i cannot move my body and i cannot walk until i recover, since high school im a buttered kid my mother hurt me always, im not rich also i can make only 1 dollar per day that is why i budget my food, i got bullied always don't have any real friends coz they backstab me if im not useful to them, i don't have a love relationship due to my ex's always cheating, until now since childhood im not lucky about relationship but god promise us that he will be with us in our bad days AKA tribulation, that's why God said pick up our cross and follow him
@@ohyeah5172 You actually sound hardy and resilient with plenty of tenacity to me. Disregard your ex relationships why dwell on the past. With the determination you've shown I think you'll do well at anything.
@@Shamsi419 pain and suffering will strengthen your faith and also apologetics, that's why i read and watch about about god so that my faith will strengthen more
A tear got out of my eye when I listened to this, there was a time I lost faith because I blamed God of the tragedy happened to me
"Why did you allow me to be raped multiple times by my own neighbors when I was a child? Why didn't you stop it?" I said to God with anger
Thank God two years ago I was saved, but this event left me deeply wounded even now, as I've heard the story of Jospeh, and the words:
"What you intended, God intended for good"
-It hit me so hard
I many never know why He allowed it to happen (me being raped many times, my family doesn't even know it) but now I'm reminded, it will all work out for good
Are you man/woman? When I checked your youtube channel I saw you are a Man. Is this true testimony?
If not please don't make false testimonies.
@@yashwanthbabu324 it's true
@@yashwanthbabu324 and yes I'm a guy, you can try search in Google, that guys all over the world are also getting sexually harrased/abused
@@monsur-adamjundam3656 😓 you surprised me 😰. Any way you were saved good to hear it brother. Good bless you and let him use for his glory
@@yashwanthbabu324 rape isn't just done to women! YES, men get raped too, I'm sure it happens a lot in prisons. It shouldn't happen AT ALL but that's the evil world we live.
I love how he jumps around with that kind of questions,, in other words he has no answer
bro what? did you not watch the video?
Awesome answer!
How can you reconcile the existence of a "ripple effect" causality with "free will". It seems that one cancels out, at least, all or part of the other.
If Yahweh is all powerful then your free will does not exist.
If Yahweh is not all powerful then you have limited free will.
Which is it?
@@JamesRichardWiley It's a little of both
Free Will exists, but if we choose the one that's not for God we are condemed with sin and he'll as our reward. *Because we choose a different will*
If we choose God our lives, thoughts, activities, and even death become God's and not ours because we submit to the father who *Knows* what's best for Us
Religious people aren't known for their critical thinking skills.
@@davidlegkodukh6969 how do you know free will exists? because science has already proven the opposite.
Underrated comment
I absolutely love how well mannered and educated this man is! Godbless him!
Gods spiritual redemptive power overcomes any “bad” earthly things by far anyway. Salvation is what it’s about no. There may or may not be positive Ripple effects on earth in this life but in his divine just mercy , everything is worth it
Really good answers
He mentioned luke 13:4. (Tower falling on the people in solom.)
Frank lives in a Bronze Age world of Hebrew fairy tales. When you finish with Frank be sure and visit Ken Ham's "Ark Encounter" for another round of laughs.
Entertaining
but not very useful
James Richard Wiley If there is no God then everything is permissible ; murder, rape etc. , you call the Bible a fairytale but if you’d actually spend the time to research the historical and archeological evidence of the Bible you’d see how much prof there is for it BUT YOU WON’T , why won’t you? Because you’re a hater of God , you hate the idea of religion and love living in Sin. It doesn’t matter how much proof we give you you’ll always find another reason to doubt and ridicule
"I will have compassion on those I will have compassion on" .... "my ways are not your ways" ... it's in scripture just read the living word
God allows?
Who or what is god allowing
that is different from his Divine Plan
which is perfect in every way and cannot be changed?
And how many will perish for it? And for doctrinal disputes, as in past?
I just watched this video. So here is what to consider, if God set for certain laws that requires or dictates the need for hurricanes for example and we understand that hurricanes exists and yet we build our homes an lives where hurricanes are possible is that God's fault. To that end, when a natural disaster occurs and devastation happens, is the lack of a universal response (love thy neighbor) from us to help those impacted God's fault?
I see in my mind's eye, lots of Calvinists burning their brains to find a valid reaction to the idea that God has not pre-planned everything we do.
Because we live in a (real) world and His will has allowed creation to exist and gave us free will to choose.
Ok then I choose for natural disasters to stop.
@@170221dn you are not God. Having free will doesn't give you power over the elements.
Gerardo Lopez
So natural disasters aren’t something I can control. The question stands why does he either sit back and let them happen? Maybe he is impotent to intervene?
@@170221dn How real do you want this world to be 40% 60% or a 100%?
Gerardo Lopez
% of what?
Why is it Scientists say the earth is 4.5 billion years old? The Bible has it at 6000. There's a lot of questions that DR. Turek doesn't answer in a way that makes one believe. Why have there been other Gods that rose from the dead, and ascended into Heaven and down to Hell? These are very very valid questions. I honestly believed in God until I found out there's been Gods before that performed miracles and rose from the dead. Also the earth age is a big one for me. There can't be that much of a gap.
Nice response.
I think the answer to natural disasters is a bit more complex then saying 'because of sin.' We live in a dynamic world. There are huge amounts of things in our ecospace that do various things we are unaware of. Some of them can cause tragic things to happen to humans in the wrong conditions, but most provide important functions. For example, we see earthquakes as bad when we are in the thick of them. However, earthquakes release pressure between tectonic plates that are vital to a number of other natural functions in this dynamic world. Simply put- without earthquakes our planet would be a lifeless husk.
And ultimately we will all die. There is no escaping it. So why does it matter if we die in an earthquake or on our death bed at 80? The question shouldn't be why didn't we get to live longer. It should be why did we even get to live at all? Our dynamic world created by our amazing God made it possible. God gives us a chance at life. We should be thankful for the time we have.
I think it’s funny people still ask these questions, expecting to get straight answers from people like Turek
Franks "god" is nothing but a puppet that he controls in front of his audience.
Wake up.
He is very clear. It may seem bad now but it will be well later. The ripple effect.
@@logan3741 But God is all powerful so he can bring good without bringing the bad no?
@@user-ky8ym7le9m Yes, he can.
But chooses not to, because he's a cosmic horror, and we're playthings in a sadistic, mocking, cruel game of his.
I just got done explaining this to an atheist who claimed God is evil because He allows evil in the world. Even after I explained free will and sin, the atheist still tried to say God is evil because He doesn't stop evil. So I just reversed his logic on him and said since God allows good to exist He must be good.
lol what utter piffle, what has freewill or "choice" got to do with BONE CANCER that causes untold suffering and death to millions of innocent children and their families. ? Just what "purpose" does it serve ? Did God not have a "choice" to create a world without bone cancer?
How about the multitude of other Diseases, Tsunamis, Viruses, birth defects, Earthquakes, Floods, Famines, ect ect. ??
I think Epicurus put it much better than I ever could........
_"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able_ ? _Then he is not omnipotent_
_Is he able, but not willing_ ? _Then he is malevolent_
_Is he both able and willing_ ? _Then whence cometh evil_ ?
_Is he neither able nor willing_ ? _Then why call him God"_ ?
Epicurus
Secondly, is heaven not supposed to be a place of perfection ?? a place where there is NO EVIL and sin is not possible !!
If people DO have "freewill" in heaven then it is entirely possible for God to have created an environment where there is NO EVIL and people still have freewill 😜
If people DO NOT have "Freewill" in heaven then it's entirely unnecessary for people to have freewill in order to be happy 😜
So which one is it cupcake ?? 🤔😜
All of us are dancing on a stage that was given to us with instructions on how to care for it.
None of us took much notice.
The stage is rotting.
Some performers can see the decay. Others ignore the decay. Still more deny the decay.
The Theatre Owner is waiting to see who will apologise for wrecking the stage, especially as He lost a family member amongst the broken planks and nails.
There will be an Encore, a Final Curtain and a Whole New Stage for the forgiven to dance upon.
The New Show will be the Greatest Show on Earth...
🙂
Asking Jesus into my heart to be my Lord and Savior is the best decision I ever made. All the questions went away. Now nothing but God's grace, peace and love. Thank you Jesus.
The man asking the question prayed that Florida would be spared from the devastating hurricane that decimated the Bahamas and wondered why a loving God would give a free pass to terribly destructive natural disasters he could vaporize in a blink, but think about it,...
Thanking God for 'sparing' you from a natural disaster is a bit like sending a thank you note to a serial killer for stabbing the family nextdoor. 🤨 🤔 😮
That doesn't make sense
@@attav8 it does because this guy just views god as evil
@@attav8 but it DOES make sense that a loving God allows terribly destructive storms to tear across coastlines, heartlands, and every place in between, killing millions because some guy ate an apple several thousand years ago? 🤔 O.K.
@@davidlenett8808 your fallacious attempt to oversimplify something greater than your comprehension is amusing. It's crazy how prideful people really are. But yet here you are, I would assume you are an anti-God person on a Christian TH-cam channel. What is you hating God going to accomplish? Fame? Pride? Money? You gain nothing from hating God. And it's quite sad that people are actually like this. Hypocrite! You'd judge the all powerful God about letting evil happen, but when he stops its now he's a moral monster? I will never understand the mind of an unbeliever. "I need proof", you dont want proof! Because even if given, you'd still reject God. If you want to hate God? Fine, go ahead but no need to waste your precious life arguing with people that will die for the faith. DIE FOR THE FAITH. You're not convincing or persuading anybody and if you do, they were most likely a subject of false convergence so you really didnt accomplish anything.
David Lenett, If a person is spared from a natural disaster, the person's life is spared even though the person or people may lose their possessions.
You have to understand that bad things happen to everyone. You're example wasn't a good one because that's not the same thing. You're expecting God to comfort every person and stop every disaster. He would be a different god and certainly not the God of the Bible if he did things according to how you think it should be done.
Great video
Didn’t, for me, come close to answering why planet earth has earthquake, tsunami, volcano... or are these considered to be post fall?
Why wouldn't God allow it?
Why didnt he just refer to Isaiah 45: 7
“ I form the light and create darkness , I bring prosperity AND CREATE DISASTER: I , the lord do all these things “
Hmmm ...
Because it doesn't answer his question of WHY
@@wildninjaturtle6715 It's obvious. Because He is crazy
Jan Makovec yeah he sounds pretty gnarly..
@@wildninjaturtle6715 Ok, does the word "delight" in Deuteronomy 28:63 answer the question of why God inflicts egregious suffering on people?
@@barryjones9362 on certain people yes
I heard this once, what is acid rain? we put out the co2 and other pollutants into the sky, and then it naturally rains right...
"Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding." Proverbs 3:5
Trust in the all-knowing and all-powerful God of all creation. He loves you so much and showed that through Jesus. Hopefully this blessed you today. God bless you!
That what a con artist would say as well. "Don't think for yourself, just trust me."
2 Consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters, whenever you face trials of many kinds,
(James 1)
For those who believe in Jesus Christ, this is what he said:
33 “*I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.*”
(John 16)
andrew matsuda
You’re very welcome, my brother in Christ
So if you came home to find the babysitter had raped your little girl to death, then your religion would require that you consider it all joy?
And what becomes of Jews?
chris sonofpear1
You can only go to the father through Jesus.
Barry Jones “But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.” Mathew 18:6
God is a God of Justice, and you have a wrong understanding of that verse:).
That verse isn’t saying have Joy in the thing that was done🤦♀️.
James 1:2, KJV: "My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;" [KJV has the most accurate translation of Hebrew]
The verse is talking about when you are struggling with sin, even though it’s hard count it a Joy because that struggle will make you stronger
James 1:2-3 King James Version (KJV)
2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience
Well, if you want to know why a just and loving God lets evil run rampant, you are in good company. Jesus pretty much asked that question on the cross. (Why have you forsaken me?"
Amazing 😍
In his book, The Problem of Pain, CS Lewis wrote that pain and suffering want to be attended to immediately. God whispers to us in our successes. God talks to us in our consciences. God shouts at us in our pain and suffering. It is his megaphone to arouse a deaf world…
1:43 - "We live in a fallen world... initially, this world got fallen because of our own sin..."
Why should Adam's descendants be punished for his actions?
you answered it yourself, Adams descendants....Adam's bloodline....Adam's legacy....children of Adam. do I need to explain more?
Adam didn't just pass suffering to us, he also passed down the burden of the knowledge of evil. not even one on earth is truly sinless to stand before the almighty.
remember when God said go forth “multiply and replenish the earth” tell me something what actions of man have actually replenished the earth? when the earth tries to to balance itself, man starts to complain. there's literally no other entity at fault here apart from man and the devil. ponder on that fact.
Adam and Eve's sin was disobedience from God. They gave in to the temptation of deciding what was best for their life and being masters of their future, rather than trusting that God had their best interests at heart. That is in essence original sin. Every day humans fail their own Adam/Eve choice by making lifestyle choices that they feel are best for them in that moment even though they fall short of what God wants from us. It's the same as "why doesn't god stop all evil?" What's to say he wouldn't start with me and you?
@@enneth8435 If I'm evil enough that I'm going to physically hurt other people, then it seems reasonable to say that God *should* stop me.
I guess I'm still not understanding what you and Mr. Turek are saying. Are you saying that we're all evil, and therefore the victims of natural disasters deserved their fate?
Or... are you saying that natural disasters started when Adam sinned, and we are suffering under the results of his decision?
Either way seems very unjust and immoral, doesn't it?
@@dudleyokon7708 How does this justify letting the victims of natural disasters be killed? Because they hurt the environment? That doesn't seem very just at all.
Essentially God is perfect. People belly ache about suffering when they are living as if life is a line segment that begins at birth and ends at death. But according to Christianity, life is not a line segment. It's a ray that extends past death and goes on for eternity. When we complain about suffering, we measure the suffering according to time lost.
That's a problem for atheists who believe in a line segment. It shouldn't be a problem for Christians who believe in a ray.
Taken from J. Warner Wallace.
@Awesome American Atheist can you state exactly what is concocted there? what as man actually done for the earth apart from taking continuously and not replenishing. when the earth tries to do so, humans start whining and complaining.
@Awesome American Atheist Actually it sounds like a fact of "behavior". Prove me wrong.
@@goor1322 Or Hindi have it right and we will be reincarnated.
@@goor1322 God is perfect, because God said he is perfect?
And why did angels not all know this? Free will, maybe, but if they had no real reason to be unhappy...
This guy is brilliant
I prayed the other night that god would bring me closer to him. And at same time, I said I feared he would do something bad to me to make me do that. Nuff Said. I was falsely arrested a few years ago by police for trying to reporting cop. I got to witness to three people while there and tell them I expected the worst yet still I have hope. I expected to lose everything, be homeless, and on streets. I witnessed I still have hope to cellmates, who had some christianity.
Few years before. I needed roommate and accepted offer online to move back to the very city I was born. Spent all my money with 3 suitcases to get there....was kicked out same night. Oddly, was able to contact a community of nonbelievers, fans of mine, one of them lived 2 miles away and offered me shelter for a few days till another offered me a place to live for a bit. I kept a journal of the promise of god I would never go hungry or homeless. He will take care of flowers..Kept it for a few years during bad times. Things happened to fulfill that always at last day or day before to rub my nose in it, he was doing it, making me worry.
Is a world without pain possible, then dont ask for the impossible.
-Marcus Aurelius.
Don't you believe God can create a world without suffering because he can do anything?
@@ryanvandermerwe5587 Don't ask for the impossible.
-Marcus Aurelius
@@raymondtendau2749 "with God, all things are possible" - somewhere in the bible
@@ryanvandermerwe5587 With God, not all things are possible. God cannot create another God like himself.
-ME
@@raymondtendau2749 I agree 👍
Hey Turek, you deleting my replies here or allowing other people to do the same? I just quoted deut. 28 and gave my own arguments in rebuttal in the last 10 minutes, and now both are gone.
Don’t think he deletes anything but idk
Replies are deleted by TH-cam if you keep giving replies and messages too often
@Barry Jones, if what Jesus said was true, would you believe in Him?
@@lookupromans109jesusiscomi4 Yes. If what Hitler said was true, would you believe him?
@@barryjones9362 Yes man! If we really follow the truth, it'll lead to Christ. Evidently through Hitler's life, I don't believe he has truth in him though. Killing and everything else, I don't think so.
There are hurricane benefits like cooling sea temperatures, they can end droughts, and other benefits. Sadly, most impacts weigh more than benefits.
So why won't God simply cool the seas instead of sending hurricanes that kills and destroys people lives?
Religious people need to get better with their critical thinking skills.
For he says to Mosheh, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that wills, nor of him that runs, but of Elohiym that shows mercy. ROMAIYM (GALATIANS) 9:15-16 את CEPHER
Do you live in Charlotte!!!!! how can I know where you will be talking so I can go!!!
The death toll is almost 30 in Nashville and Frank thought it would be a good idea to post a video hinting to disasters like this can actually be a positive thing. Frank loves to talk about morality, here is his morality.
Thanks
I love this
What we call natural disasters, are necessary physics for the Planet itself to survive and support us. The whole life cycle "gig" is quite intelligently designed.
The rain falls on the righteous and the unrighteous alike. Bad things happen to good people.
Great answer on a Theological level, i.e. - ripple effect. Thanks.
So all these bad things would happen if god didn’t exist?
@@170221dn If God didn't exist neither bad or good things would happen because nothing would exist
But God is all powerful so he can bring good without bringing the bad no?
@@user-ky8ym7le9m if he got rid of the bad he might start with us, according to the video
Indeed, it’s natural events.
However, if it’s supposed to be designed, it’s rather flawed. A product killing it’s customers not exactly great.
But for a natural situation pretty awesome.
Dr. Frank is like God's spokesman on earth. He takes all the shots. And he does justice to them real good.
It doesnt strike you as odd that an omnipotent being needs a spokesman to defend him from scrutiny?
HotdogTurtle he doesn’t Gods will will be done regardless
HotdogTurtle God didn’t say he NEEDS a spokesman to DEFEND HIM
I think it’s a problem when we start asking a man to answer all the questions we have about God... we should instead learn to talk to God ourself
@@jaydaboi8990 Are you sure? The only reason you even know about God is because some other human being told you about him
Without challenge, how do you expect to have a genuine built emotional mentality.
Is this speaker a pastor? Where can I find him online? Anyone ?
Great message and very timely as we are all concerned about the spread of coronavirus. Trust God even when you can see the outcome.
Your god will not protect you from covid-19. Wash your hands and stay away from sick people.
@@somerandom3247 You are right washing your hands and staying at home are the number on action we can take to protect ourselves. I love the saying - Trust in God and tether your camel. I think this applies now more than ever. Many who get covid-19 and die will believe in God. The difference for those who believe is they won't be alone.
Maybe we live in a fallen world, and people suffer because of it. It's not Gods fault his just letting free will run its course.
How does free will cause hurricanes again?
@@hansdemos6510 -- When man rejected God in the garden, God took away his blessing and protection. Man wanted to be god, so God allowed them to experience all the consequences of their choice. Terrible circumstances often cause people to face their mortality and question their place in the universe. Adversity is sometimes the only impetus for people to seek God. Natural disasters are not evil, but they are the indirect consequence of evil. Evil is always a potential outcome of free will, but never a necessity.
@@enonknives5449 I see the embers of enlightenment in your answer, but they only glimmer very faintly. Doesn't this story sound contrived to you at all? Doesn't it sound like people sitting around the campfire telling stories and musing how it must have gone, way back when?
I reject the link you propose between inclement weather and the fall. Dr. Kent Hovind says that because of the ice canopy, it didn't even rain until it broke when the flood in the days of Noah started, so storms were also not a thing after the fall. That only got started after the flood, when the protecting ice canopy had disappeared, just like earthquakes, by the way. None of that before the flood, so no connection with the fall.
Or maybe your god doesn't exist and natural disasters have natural causes(hence their name)
The bible says out of the mouth flow the issues of life, people can curse and or bless, people can speak and it can cause a hurricane, just like people can pray and prevent a hurricane from killing people. The bible says life and death is in the power of the tongue. So yes people have free will to do good or too do evil both in the natural and spiritual.
How can killing innocent children thru natural disasters bring any good? And if killing babies will do any good ripple effect, then the God you know is not ALL good.
If a person walks with Jesus and is taken out by natural disaster the next step for them is the kingdom of God we all must die so how and when makes no difference when the next step is the kingdom of God
I’m pretty certain God knows that all these disasters are no longer ‘NATURAL’
I think it’s a problem when we start asking a man to answer all the questions we have about God... we should instead learn to talk to God ourself
So he causes them. nice god
@@francoisona
Spoken in ignorance obviously.
I can’t help but wonder if you think God is responsible for this fake pandemic and the loss of your rights and freedoms as well.
Edward South he doesn’t believe the pandemic is fake and we’re losing our rights. I see it and you see it, but he doesn’t see it.
@@edwardsouth1711 If God created everything, isn't he responsible for the diseases that kills millions of people every year.
Didn't he create our bodies in a way that are susceptible to said diseases.
That's the wrong question.
The real question is, why do we have it so good?
We all deserve hell.
Amen
A lot of times the things that “go wrong” are the very things that place us on the right path/ perspective/ revival etc. God is sovereign, His ways are not ours. That’s something to consider when you feel like that. We can’t ask to never suffer. He already answered that prayer. We are to endure until the end. That’s the problem with Christianity these days. No one wants to inconvenience. But this isn’t our home yet.
But God is all powerful so he can bring good without bringing the bad no?
Another easy one. It's because gods aren't real so therefore have no effect on discernible reality.
What is real then Bob?
@@Yumi-vk6mm What do you mean?
Not god's, God only one God,and he exists.
@@nicoya-ru8sx Only in the sense that thigs exist in people's imaginations.
Just remember this words,the fool in he's heart says their is no God..
It's not hard to say "my worldview is 100% true and compatible with reality" when you justify every inconsistency appealing to hypotheticals, ad hoc explanations and excuses.
True that
Essentially God is perfect. People belly ache about suffering when they are living as if life is a line segment that begins at birth and ends at death. But according to Christianity, life is not a line segment. It's a ray that extends past death and goes on for eternity. When we complain about suffering, we measure the suffering according to time lost.
That's a problem for atheists who believe in a line segment. It shouldn't be a problem for Christians who believe in a ray.
@@goor1322
I'm agnostic but the atheist has a much more meaningful life because they don't treat this life like a doormat waiting for the afterlife.
This life is much more important to them because it's the only one they think they have.
Hallelujah
God bless
Everyone always asks "Why God"
But no one ever asks "How God?"
The problem is that if I were all-powerful, I would show more humanity than does the Christian god. If I have a pet dog, I will not allow him to feel pain needlessly and if I could help it, I would not allow him to feel pain at all. Same is true with the birds nesting in the tree outside my window. I think part of my observation goes to the notion that God is generally declared as merciful. By my standards he is not.
That's the thing friend. Everyone has their standards Vs God's. No one can determine what he is planning. Our minds are restricted and we are finite. But I need you to go more in-depth with me. If there was a human, bleeding out in an alley way from a robbery gone wrong and you were in God's position what would you do?
@@Yumi-vk6mm To some degree my complaint is that God has been mislabeled. That means that people like Frank have to concoct excuses for God. If it were said that God was generous enough to put life on earth but had a cruel streak that made him add natural disasters, hatred, etc., then the only complaint I would have is that there is not enough evidence for me to believe in the existence of a god, _any_ god. Anyway, if there were someone bleeding in an alley from a robbery gone wrong, I would immediately stop the person's bleeding and pain. Then I would commence making the global environment such that there would be no need, and no desire for robberies or any other kind of wrongdoing against one's fellow man.
@@jacksfavorite4808 if there is no desire for robberies or any kind of wrong doing, then there can be no desire for love, or acceptance, or mercy or anything good. You would have to take away free will in order to get rid of desires.
You have any standar at least there is a God you complaint because there is something that you do not undestand
If everybody were God everybody will do something God for other and bad for others so we would not know love withouy suffrering and when you undestand the suffrering is something will vanish for those who believe in him and even in suffrering we rejoice.
And if were not merciful he woould kill everyone except the children because everyone is bad and you might have lie
And stole or kill someone so we are not God person and the children dye but they go to heaven according to God.
So everyone wants God to stop one things but about us
@@Thanos-kp5jr I don't know why an all-powerful entity cannot make a world that has no wrongdoing but yet has love.
I just feel like some people should just accept the fact that we’ll never really know why God does the things he does or why he allows certain things to happen until we die and enter that divine state. But that’s why Isaiah the prophet rightly says “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Dennis Kenta Masamune dont worry they will “‘As surely as I live,’says the Lord,
‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will acknowledge God.’”
God used devastating events in my life to draw me towards Him and then full faith in Christ, that couldnt have happened without the prior events i thought nothing good would ever come.
Okay😂😂😂 whatever keeps you going in life I guess
@chrisking8579 hysterically laughing at a snippet of someone's testimony says an awful lot about you my friend.
@@chrisking8579Exactly it's a coping mechanism.