Some corrections to this video regarding the Mellotron choir part: The augmented chords in the 7/8 buildup to the Squonk section should be in root position at the lowest available point on the 8 CHOIR sound. The first two chords of the Sqounk riff should be the organ part I did in my Squonk video: Dm7 root position (D-F-A-C) to C/D triad in 1st inversion (DEGC). I assumed this was simpler for Los Endos but upon further listening to live recordings in which he used the vocoder it's easier to hear all the pitches.
4:10 - I only noticed that in bootlegs (Seconds Out has been mixed to smooth-out a lot): in the sustained A+ chord in root position, Tony lifts his left hand a few times, obviously to allow for the tapes to snap be brought back by the spring, just enough to sustain again. I guess he tried alternatives such as jumping an octave. Must have been a nightmare playing the Mellotron, knowing it can tear apart the tapes at any moment. As always: thanks for sharing all your skills and information!
This is absolutely fantastic, Matt. I see many other tribute acts and serious keyboardists have come here to pay tribute to your tribute! Now, our tribute in Australia is to play this too, using your work as a guide. Thank you so much, you have helped keyboardists everywhere that want to tackle this stuff (and can't be sure which bits were guitar, or pro soloist.) Bravo, Brava and Bravissimo. Greetings from Australia.
Matt Thomas Overdrive yep it’s quite an interesting challenge in an otherwise ‘fairly simple’ piece of music! Makes you kinda wonder how Tony came up with it?!
I play this by memory but with one or another thing wrong... With this I can correct most. This is one of my favorites versions. Some people say this is the definitive version, that with this tour the song actually took form.
It was never done live, but I have considered doing an edit on my PC so that the outro to It's Yourself segues into Los Endos. In other words, the rhythm section comes in rather than the outro just trailing off. Another possibility is to let the It's Yourself outro play to the end, but have the final few notes morph into the opening notes of Mad Man Moon.
Pro soloist! Finally Cherry Audio has made a great VST for all us Genesis addicts. BUT I assume you MUST have a controller with aftertouch , and be able to assign it to upward pitch bend to make it sound perfect... ;-) do you think (and how) this can be made with "our faithful" Arturia Mark II ? TIA ( note: I was there in '77 - London 25 June - that final D-9 chord literally made the Arena rumble all round. Oh well the Taurus too made its work ) 🙂
BTW: I always got the chord voicing on the Mellotron wrong until I was aware of the 8 second limit a few years ago. Of course you need to change all voices with each chord, to avoid running out of tape (real or virtual). Again: thanks so much for this. It clears up a lot of things!
Matt, awesome work as always!! Can you please list the notes in that really quick arpeggio at 2:47? Sounds like 4 bars? Your hands are so fast it's hard to tell what you're playing. Also how do you get that after pitch bend on the Aflat, F, D, A, G run at the end (5:50). Sounds like after touch but it isn't. Sounds like after glide in which the harder you hold the note you get more of a glide than a vibrato? Thanks a lot man! Keep 'em coming! You are teaching me!
That riff can be thought of as four sextuplets, moving across four hand positions that are octaves: F#, B, E, A. Within each octave the phrase turns inward with the bottom note continuing up the D major scale. The final sextuplet is a slightly different one in that the upper octave note (A) stays on top. The pitch bend is an analog aftertouch proprietary at the time to ARP's Soloist line and later the lead section of the Quadra.
@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 thanks Matt! Not sure if I have that option on the Nord Stage 3. So you would just play doublets to get that effect then? F-Aflat, D-F, A-D etc?
When I was using my Odysseys to do the early 80s version of Los Endos, I did what you described during the Squonk reprise. With portamento already on, playing them as grace notes sounds like the way he did it on the 1978 tour with the ARP 2600.
Now I understand how that synth worked on the studio intro. I think that sound is nearly impossible to get on any other keyboard. It sounds almost like a virtual oboe
What are the exact inversions for all of the mellotron chords? Same with Squonk. I’ve watched the Tony Cams and listened to some bootlegs and i’m hearing some notes that don’t match up
I am! I’ve been doing a lot of producing and session work lately and my recording rig is situated elsewhere at the moment, but in the past few weeks I’ve been tweaking my arrangements making sure all the left hand organ accompaniment is perfect for Firth of Fifth and Supper’s Ready. My goal is to finish Seconds Out soon.
Yes, the ProSoloist plus Hammond are a match made in heaven. That looks like a sweet organ you have there. What model is it? Anyway (pun always intended) fantastic tutorial. Thanks for sharing!
It can easily be done, but many of the aftertouch modulations and delayed onset of vibrato would have to be done manually. I suspect that’s why he liked the Quadra so much.
I’ll be back with more soon. I have been doing a lot of producing, arranging, and session work, so these videos had to be put on hold because I do these for free! I’ll be finishing Seconds Out, was just revisiting the organ for Firth of Fifth yesterday.
I’m learning Los endos and when I put my pro soloist on fuzz guitar1 it sounds a bit dry it works fine but I was just wondering if you have any pedals or anything plugged in while doing the fuzz guitar section. If you have any tips on how to make the fuzz guitar to sound better it would be great?
Check out the first minute of my Squonk video, my captions describe this sound. I’m using a tape delay plugin, but any delay will do. The Pro Soloist needs A LOT of help.
hey matt. since you seem to know a little bit about vst's, i got the aruturia synclavier V recently. do you know how to set it up? would you need a DAW?
@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 i have a usb from the computer into midi in/out to a korg wavestation. would i need to change the keyboard, or would that set up work?
I do, The Genesis Show. I am also the music director for that band. On the home page of this channel is a link to our Facebook page. I definitely would never have done this if that wasn’t my job 😀. We had plans to do the Duke tour throughout fall/winter, so I made this channel as a way to keep me motivated working on this stuff.
@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 Nice work man! I was planning to do this type of material(overhead view playing) because i'm forgetting a lot os songs i used to play for my band too. And so many i've already forgotten! But yeah man some day i hope to see you guys on stage (i'm from brazil) and if anyday u come down here to sp let me know to introduce you to my band too!
@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 yes of course, genesis came here in 77 and since them we went nuts on the prog hahaha but we will welcome you with arms open!
Some corrections to this video regarding the Mellotron choir part:
The augmented chords in the 7/8 buildup to the Squonk section should be in root position at the lowest available point on the 8 CHOIR sound.
The first two chords of the Sqounk riff should be the organ part I did in my Squonk video: Dm7 root position (D-F-A-C) to C/D triad in 1st inversion (DEGC). I assumed this was simpler for Los Endos but upon further listening to live recordings in which he used the vocoder it's easier to hear all the pitches.
4:10 - I only noticed that in bootlegs (Seconds Out has been mixed to smooth-out a lot): in the sustained A+ chord in root position, Tony lifts his left hand a few times, obviously to allow for the tapes to snap be brought back by the spring, just enough to sustain again. I guess he tried alternatives such as jumping an octave. Must have been a nightmare playing the Mellotron, knowing it can tear apart the tapes at any moment. As always: thanks for sharing all your skills and information!
Yes, he lifts his hand and rearticulates the chord in the vocoder years, too. 1980-82.
@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 thanks for the information. Will check. I guess a necessity on the Mellotron turned into part of the arrangement. Cool!
There is an angel behind his keyboards 😉👏👏
Free to get back home
This is absolutely fantastic, Matt. I see many other tribute acts and serious keyboardists have come here to pay tribute to your tribute! Now, our tribute in Australia is to play this too, using your work as a guide. Thank you so much, you have helped keyboardists everywhere that want to tackle this stuff (and can't be sure which bits were guitar, or pro soloist.) Bravo, Brava and Bravissimo. Greetings from Australia.
I love your covers of these classic Genesis songs! You do an amazing job!
pro soloist is so Magic 😍
Awesome work, as ever! I've always kind of loved that weird/awkward part at 2:47!
That riff you pointed out is my favorite part of any set! It’s really hard but once you lock into it it really builds excitement.
Matt Thomas Overdrive yep it’s quite an interesting challenge in an otherwise ‘fairly simple’ piece of music! Makes you kinda wonder how Tony came up with it?!
@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 That part is the only one I couldn't get right. I should practice that part, but I'm afraid I will give up
@@andym0908 I think Tony just really loved playing with the Portamento on the ARP!
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Impressed... Respect!
Beautiful! Needless to say, the sounds are spot on. Thanks for all the information!
I play this by memory but with one or another thing wrong... With this I can correct most.
This is one of my favorites versions. Some people say this is the definitive version, that with this tour the song actually took form.
2:46 amazing ,good job
I'm wondering if Genesis ever performed "It's Yourself" (the song that birthed "Los Endos") live....
I doubt it. There’s not bootleg evidence. I don’t think it was released until as a B side to a W&W single.
It was never done live, but I have considered doing an edit on my PC so that the outro to It's Yourself segues into Los Endos. In other words, the rhythm section comes in rather than the outro just trailing off. Another possibility is to let the It's Yourself outro play to the end, but have the final few notes morph into the opening notes of Mad Man Moon.
Pro soloist! Finally Cherry Audio has made a great VST for all us Genesis addicts. BUT I assume you MUST have a controller with aftertouch , and be able to assign it to upward pitch bend to make it sound perfect... ;-) do you think (and how) this can be made with "our faithful" Arturia Mark II ? TIA ( note: I was there in '77 - London 25 June - that final D-9 chord literally made the Arena rumble all round. Oh well the Taurus too made its work ) 🙂
BTW: I always got the chord voicing on the Mellotron wrong until I was aware of the 8 second limit a few years ago. Of course you need to change all voices with each chord, to avoid running out of tape (real or virtual). Again: thanks so much for this. It clears up a lot of things!
Matt, awesome work as always!! Can you please list the notes in that really quick arpeggio at 2:47? Sounds like 4 bars? Your hands are so fast it's hard to tell what you're playing. Also how do you get that after pitch bend on the Aflat, F, D, A, G run at the end (5:50). Sounds like after touch but it isn't. Sounds like after glide in which the harder you hold the note you get more of a glide than a vibrato? Thanks a lot man! Keep 'em coming! You are teaching me!
That riff can be thought of as four sextuplets, moving across four hand positions that are octaves: F#, B, E, A. Within each octave the phrase turns inward with the bottom note continuing up the D major scale. The final sextuplet is a slightly different one in that the upper octave note (A) stays on top.
The pitch bend is an analog aftertouch proprietary at the time to ARP's Soloist line and later the lead section of the Quadra.
@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 thanks Matt! Not sure if I have that option on the Nord Stage 3. So you would just play doublets to get that effect then? F-Aflat, D-F, A-D etc?
When I was using my Odysseys to do the early 80s version of Los Endos, I did what you described during the Squonk reprise. With portamento already on, playing them as grace notes sounds like the way he did it on the 1978 tour with the ARP 2600.
Now I understand how that synth worked on the studio intro. I think that sound is nearly impossible to get on any other keyboard. It sounds almost like a virtual oboe
It is possible with midi controller and VST :) that's the way i do it
@@MathGsr I was talking about giving a 70s synth a realistic oboe sound
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What are the exact inversions for all of the mellotron chords? Same with Squonk. I’ve watched the Tony Cams and listened to some bootlegs and i’m hearing some notes that don’t match up
@@samanipreston yes, I corrected these for myself since. There should be a pinned comment from me about this. I hope to do a corrected video soon.
Awesome man!! Are you planning to continue these?
I am! I’ve been doing a lot of producing and session work lately and my recording rig is situated elsewhere at the moment, but in the past few weeks I’ve been tweaking my arrangements making sure all the left hand organ accompaniment is perfect for Firth of Fifth and Supper’s Ready. My goal is to finish Seconds Out soon.
Yes, the ProSoloist plus Hammond are a match made in heaven. That looks like a sweet organ you have there. What model is it? Anyway (pun always intended) fantastic tutorial. Thanks for sharing!
That’s an early 1960s ebony B3, the jewel of my collection.
@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 fantastic! Nothing like a vintage Hammond console
Have you ever tried to replicate a pro soloist sound on either of the Odysseys you have?
It can easily be done, but many of the aftertouch modulations and delayed onset of vibrato would have to be done manually. I suspect that’s why he liked the Quadra so much.
@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 thanks!
Epping forest next pls?
Ooh, that’s out of the scope of my tribute band, we do 1976-1982 tours. But...at some point that would be an easy one to do.
Funny how this song is your final video; guess I started following you when you were doing a TH-cam blitz.
I’ll be back with more soon. I have been doing a lot of producing, arranging, and session work, so these videos had to be put on hold because I do these for free! I’ll be finishing Seconds Out, was just revisiting the organ for Firth of Fifth yesterday.
Lovely sound man!!! what are the settings for the hammond?
Try 848868666. That’s the Theater Brass 16’ preset he would have used on his T-100 series spinet.
@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 thanks man!
I’m learning Los endos and when I put my pro soloist on fuzz guitar1 it sounds a bit dry it works fine but I was just wondering if you have any pedals or anything plugged in while doing the fuzz guitar section. If you have any tips on how to make the fuzz guitar to sound better it would be great?
Check out the first minute of my Squonk video, my captions describe this sound. I’m using a tape delay plugin, but any delay will do. The Pro Soloist needs A LOT of help.
@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 this helped a lot thanks. I managed to get my hands on a mxr echoplex pedal and it sound 100x better.
Our guitar player uses that as a backup for his real Echoplex and likes it a lot.
hey matt. since you seem to know a little bit about vst's, i got the aruturia synclavier V recently. do you know how to set it up? would you need a DAW?
I have that and most of the Arturia plugins. It runs in standalone in addition to DAW.
@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 i have a usb from the computer into midi in/out to a korg wavestation. would i need to change the keyboard, or would that set up work?
The standalone versions of Arturia’s synths have a pop up window which allows you to select MIDI and audio routing.
Boss has a new space echo.
Nicely executed at 2:48. That flurry of notes is not easy to play.
Matt do you have a cover band? Or you just play for fun alone?
I do, The Genesis Show. I am also the music director for that band. On the home page of this channel is a link to our Facebook page. I definitely would never have done this if that wasn’t my job 😀. We had plans to do the Duke tour throughout fall/winter, so I made this channel as a way to keep me motivated working on this stuff.
@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 Nice work man! I was planning to do this type of material(overhead view playing) because i'm forgetting a lot os songs i used to play for my band too. And so many i've already forgotten!
But yeah man some day i hope to see you guys on stage (i'm from brazil) and if anyday u come down here to sp let me know to introduce you to my band too!
It seems South America and Brazil in particular has a robust amount of Genesis fans. I’d love to go there!
@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 yes of course, genesis came here in 77 and since them we went nuts on the prog hahaha but we will welcome you with arms open!