Did I waste money on an electric chainsaw?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.พ. 2021
- #diy #woodworking #chainsaw
Tool: Makita 36V (2x18V) LXT Lithium-Ion Brushless Cordless Chain Saw (XCU04PT1 )
I got a bunch of free logs from a friend. So I figured I would try and cut them up using a electric chains saw. Can a non gas chainsaw keep up? I am not a reviewer but thought it would be fun to share my experience with this saw in case anyone wanted to get one.
Watch a great review of this tool and other electric chains saws from project farm
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I just bought one of these myself and I love it. I previously had a gas powered Stihl, and I didn't use it very much. I got maybe 6 uses out of it before it started leaking. When I took it to a shop they said I'd be better off buying a new one because they'd have to dismantle the engine to fix it. So I said forget gas, I went to an electric one. I already own compatible Makita tools that I also love so the decision was a no-brainer. I won't be cutting anything near as thick as this guy was, so I don't anticipate many problems.
The right tool for the right job, I own this saw and it’s perfect for most of my needs. Mostly liming and turning downed trees from storms on my property into next years fire wood. This saw your using is probably a little overwhelmed by the size of your stumps there. You’re review is accurate but most wouldn’t use this medium duty saw for this size of work.
These saws are fantasic for timber up to 200mm, i generally grab this over the petrol for that size .
NEVER cut on rocks, and worse, near a block wall...
I’m a tree surgeon by trade. Iv always used stihl or husky saws but want a saw to use at home that’s quieter than a petrol driven, all my tools are makita ltx so I’m tempted by one of these, I’m impressed it got through that log Union in the direction of the grain, most top range saws take longer getting through them. I’m not sold just yet, il be watching more reviews I think. Good demo you done though 👍
usually I put the saw right against the log and take advantage of the teeth on the saw's face, some might call it the "fence"-it allows leverage to pivot the saw and increase the blade bite! It's also safer. And wear some leather gloves!
It’s a great saw. Just picked one up and used it. Keep a sharp chain on it and it will will get the job done. I’ve cut some big trees with it to.
Great review 👍❤️
bought this model around 4 years go (around 2018). did nto want ot mess with gas mix, spar plugs, cord pulling, noise, smell and so on. it's been great.
what you did here is a bit extreme. you cut continously slabs. this is why you only get around 20 minutes of runtime and hot batteries. usually you cut a bit, then reposition and then cut some more and so on.
i used this saw to fall old, deseased fruit apple and plum trees, willows, black locust. made them into a bunch of firewood.
the way i work a set of 5 amps last 40 minutes. when spent they are warm, not hot. now i have 4 sets of batteries: 3 sets of 5 amps, 1 set of 3 amps. they allow me to do 2,3 hours of work. when a set is spent i slap it on the charger and in an hour it's charged. so if one has 4-5 sets of 5 amps he could do a lot of hours of work. one could optimize this by getting two double chargers or charge the batteries to 80% that goes fast. you can tell the 80% level when both green and red are lit.
You can throw trees cuz you got 1.3 bar and chain, i cant do it with 1.1, whenever i lay saw horizontaly my chain falls off immediately. But it cuts better, faster and with less vibration
@@i1bike the 1.1 millimetres is the thickness of the guide teeth on the chain. It should not cause the chain to fall. Perhaps your chain is set way too loose. I was able to fall tens of trees.
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Noup, 1.1 falls off when saw is placed horizontally, regardless of chain tension, while 1.3 doesnt fall off. I put the 1.1 bar and chain on my ms231, it falls off :)
That's some pretty big logs for a battery powered saw lol
This is the perfect chainsaw for your application. Soon, In Ca, all small gas engines will no longer be sold a few years from now. Electric will be the exclusive option.
Or a buck saw. Better find an antique one. They'll be better quality.
You will always struggle cutting down the grain with a battery saw . For cutting discs its a great tool
I wouldn't be cutting with the tip of the blade so close to the stone wall, kickback issues
I agree, it made me cringe watching that.
Me too, dipping that chain into something hard or even soil will strip the edge off the chain instantly.
The fact that you have managed to do the cuts hows you that it is capable of doing stirling work, but whatyou have done is better suited to be done by a gas powered saw. We keep ours as an emergency saw in our vehicles. It is ideal to use up in a tree to cut thru the top cover as it is light, manouvarable and safe, but battery is not there yet to cut down large trees or engage in heavy timber work.
All chainsaws are going to collect debris in the chain drive case. The nice thing about this saw, is that you need no tools to clear it out. The only thing I am not too keen on is the chain tension adjustment, as I find the adjustment knob too small.
Agreed, I have trouble adjusting the slider mechanism, it is rather finicky
I’ve been using chainsaws for over 40 years and have one of these Makita battery saws also. Initially I didn’t like it because I was using it like one of my petrol Stihl’s and putting too much pressure on for a battery saw. If you push them hard they will stall and your battery life will go down. The second problem was that I was adjusting chain tension like I do the Stihl's and they they would come off and ding the drive links which usually means a new chain, as I haven’t got time to file each link down. You need to tighten these chains right down hard! Each time you change batteries you need to fill the bar oil and clean under the plate. If you don’t clean them out you block the oiler, then run the chain hot and lose the temper. It collects far more shavings than any of my petrol saws and requires more cleaning.
Once I learned how to handle this saw I find it very useful and carry it everywhere in the back of my Polaris and use it for light work. It can do heavier work but is more suited to lighter wood. I’m about to buy one of the Makita battery 4” or 6” pruning saws for one handed cutting up of branches for light firewood. I’m sure I’ll be happy with that too!
I’ve got the X 40 volts it’s pretty good
Looks like you needed either a better chain, or to sharpen that one. Throwing small flakes and cutting slow.
Chainsaws are also primarily suited for cutting green wood. Hardened, dead, dry wood doesn't "peel" out how the chain teeth are designed to, and dulls the chain teeth what-quick. This is why sawmills use circular and bandsaw blades, not a green wood saw. I preferentially use a (kids, avert your eyes) cordless 10-1/4" circular saw for dead stuff if it's small enough for the saw to get far enough into (to cut or to notch & drop).
@@indigophox I've been using chainsaws for the better part of 40 years, and for a number of those years I sold firewood for a living. Sure, 'green' wood cuts easier, but if the teeth are sharp and the rakers are filed down, cutting even the densest dry hardwood is easy. And by the way, chainsaw mills are used when the log is too large for the bandsaw or circular saw and the desired product is as large a slab as possible, for countertops and tables, etc.
By the way, I bought one of these little Makita 16" cordless chainsaws. Works great, but it's no replacement for a gas-powered saw at all. I like it, and it's handy, and it always starts (unlike some saws I've owned, especially Stihl saws), but for real work, you need a lot more saw. If I tried to use it to cut a cord of pine, I think I'd need at least fifty battery changes. My big Husqvarna will cut a cord on one tank of gas, and do it ten times faster.
Yes
You are right in your comments.
How about the capacity of the batteries? I mean, the duration of the battery untill a New charge?
Re batteries. I had a whole bunch of fake batteries which lasted for years, then I bought a reciprocating saw which munches batteries, about 50% of batteries Brocken within 2 months. Now on genuine batts, so hopefully they will last. But I do wonder re discharge date with heavy gear
So dead wood is going to dull the crap out of a chain REALLY fast, and looks like it already has from the sawdust (not ribbons) coming off the chain. The teeth are designed and suited for green wood that will "peel" out of the cut. What you want there is a bandsaw, or a circular saw if you're up for getting something big enough to cut those pieces (probably not, it's $$$$$ and ill-suited for funny-shaped pieces). There's a reason mills use circular and bandsaw blades.
Your right, full chisel chains are quite violent on deadwood and blunt quickly. Semi chisel chains are better on deadwood they don’t blunt as quick but don’t rip through wood like full chisel do,. It’ll be plenty of sharpening practice lol
I am very seriously considering the 10.25" cordless or even 16.xx" corded Makita circular saws for exactly this reason. Positive-rake, fast cutting blades that don't die on me all the time :)
At some point you'd think you'd see something like the portable metal-cutting bandsaws but with a wood blade on them for such work...
Для таких работ надо брать сетевую цепную пилу Макита! Вы же не в лесу работаете.
So do you recommend this model ?
I am very happy with the saw. I dont have any other electronic saw to compare it to but I love using it if you have enough batteries or a small enough job.
The duc405z with captive nuts is better 400mm bar
Get the bar away from the wall!,,
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We have a saying horses for courses meaning depends on your needs. I lived in a suburban home for decades and used plug in electric chainsaws of that size and found them excellent extension cords reached the extremes of my property and the saws were adequate power and size. I now have a 4 acre property with lots of trees some of them very large I am considering a saw like this however for the cost I feel a larger petrol saw would be better for me. Cost is also a consideration petrol saws are half the price of Battery saws (of this quality) corded saws are half the price again.
Generator! And use you electric one. Then you don’t have to breath in exhaust fumes.
1st cut right downward dust will accumulate, Not the smartest 1st cut
Thanks for the advice! Im really new to chain saws.
so this is the DUC353?
This is the XCU04. The DUC353 appears to be very similar just a 14" bar vs the 16"
Big logs for electric saw so not for you but it'll do most things . Stick to gas .
6Ah batteries @ Makita don't have more cells in them than 5Ah ones. They just have 3Ah cells instead of 2.5Ah cells, and as usual with cells of larger capacity, their max current draw is lower than that of 2.5Ah cells. So, you're actually worse off in terms of max amperage with 6Ah cells.
A cheap "no name" corded chain saw will do the same thing. A lot longer.
I'd never own a corded saw, unless you like dragging extension cords everywhere you go. Everywhere I've lived I use the saw not very close to my house or garage, cutting down trees and limbs around the property, and having to drag a cord around behind me would be a real pain.
You need corded. Cordless tools for for quick burst projects not hour long projects.
Ya take the corded into the bush maybe with an inveter and battery bank 😆
@@globalphotobank Dude depends on the usage. His project was in the garage, there corded is a better tool than a battery. if you are going into the woods, you need either gas or a battery. If you are cutting too much you need gas. Common sense. I have all 3 and use them depending on what I am doing.
@@SwapnilBhartiya I live off grid Husky chain saws and the Makita 36v chainsaw solar charge multiple batteries full days work no prob. Only time battery operated tool gives me a hard time is near the end of the life off the battery. 5 Amh batteries or six no problems .
@@globalphotobank Makes sense. Thanks.
If you didn't waste your money now, you would have later when they stop making batteries for it. Don't buy anything battery powered. They have built in obsolescence. It's safe to buy a battery powered flashlight, but that's about it.
Eh, I've been running makita tools for a long time, and I even have one battery that has lasted more than ten years.
@@shanemedlin9400 I have 2 sets of tools. I have Bosch and DeWalt and none of the batteries lasted more than 3 years. That's all I'm saying. I had to replace 4 batteries in total during that time.
Batteries are a consumable item, who thinks they will last forever 🤦♂️
@@chasp_0784 The bad part is, when you can't even get batteries any more from the makers of the tools. All the batteries I have had to buy were after market batteries that the manufactures just stopped making. Mind you, Bosch and DeWalt too. The tools aren't even 5 years old either.
@@magoolew5131 maybe dewalt and Bosch aren’t the company’s for you, hopefully tool manufacturers keep innovating so you actually want to buy something new not railroad you into the decision with cynical design but new shiny usually means new platform