I think he threw Jen and Lilia in as well because they essentially sided with Agatha regarding Alice's death. I think Alice is the coven member he felt the closest to. She opened up to him a bit in the first trial and he reciprocated, she was the first to notice something wasn't right with him at the end of the second trial, and before the third trial she exchanged the broom with him. Jen basically agreeing that the other's deaths didn't matter as long as they got power from it, and Lilia basically shrugging it off saying everyone dies anyway I think pissed him off. So to him, he isn't hurting innocent people. He's punishing callous people.
Yes, yes, yes!! I definitely agree with this after giving it some thought once I finished the episode. I personally wasn't sure if Teen was bad, good, or even neutral because it seemed like he had moments of both. Alice was easily his favorite, like you said after they bonded. It makes me sad that he genuinely just wants to learn and/or be in a coven with them, but they're so individualistic and out for self that he'll never be able to depend on them like that. Moving forward, I hope to see all of the women shed the years of hurt and trauma to start anew. The callouses didn't grow overnight, so I get where they're coming from. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
@@briianasimone Thank you for your recording your reaction! I enjoyed watching. I do also think a lot of their issues come from their trauma and grief. It was shown that they were growing close as friends and now that Alice is suddenly dead I think they immediately closed off emotionally to protect themselves and focused on why they are putting themselves on this path in the first place. Teen from the beginning has been the one most promoting unity within the coven and I think he realized he couldn't unify them because they couldn't care for each other that way (due to their own fears of being hurt). I'm hoping they can grow but as soon as Alice was able to grow she died so 💀 I'm a tad salty about that because it feels very narratively unsatisfying for her. Justice for Alice! :( But Wiccan has been my favorite superhero for like, the last 15 years so I'm very excited to see more of him :)
Billy has the same reality warping power as his mother but it’s always been ambiguous to if he uses chaos magic too he’s been called the son of chaos and chaos user on occasions. As the demiurge he also has a lot more power then a standard magic user
Oooh okay!! So I wonder what they'll make canon for him in the MCU, but either way I'm excited to see who the real Billy is and how his magic works. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
@@briianasimone I always watch your reactions just after I've watched the ep! Thank you for giving me company in my excitement when I don't have any company for watching Agatha IRL 💙😂
“Alice don’t save Agatha” I’m glad you pointed that out because I would of never noticed :O I’m so sad about Alice but I think maybe it’ll be an arc for Billy like Wanda’s losses Also as a Billy Kaplan Stan I was screaming at the ending 😭😭😍 Btw, I really hope he wishes for his mom or his brother 👀
@andrewvega5567 Yes!! Lilia's premonitions finally had to mean something so I kept them in my back pocket until we got a full phrase, but I'm so sad Alice ended up dying after completing her TRAIL 😭😭😭 I'm just happy she was able to forgive her mother and let go of her anger before she departed. Hopefully, they're together and at peace. I couldn't even contain my excitement at the end, even though I barely knew what I was excited for 🤣 He's most definitely wishing for his family back and I bet he'll get it
I wonder whether Billy throwing the other witches into the quicksand was temporarily sending them off the Road, somehow? Is he powerful enough to do that? In some of the trailer clips we see Jen crawling out from underground back into Westview. In some of the promo/behind the scenes footage Agatha also looks extremely muddy lol. They've got to get back to the Road somehow though, because we know there are more trials with Jen, Lilia, and Agatha to come... I feel like I have so many more questions than answers after this episode, I'm not sure what exactly Agatha and Billy know and how they know it, I feel like Rio is involved but I'm not sure how. What was Nicholas Scratch asking Agatha not to do?? R.I.P. Alice, she did not deserve that. :(
I think your right!!! Billy sent them off the road somehow, but the road may be more powerful than him, so the witches who entered probably have to continue until they reach the end or die. We are always left with so many questions OMG. I know a lot of people have comic book knowledge and Billy Kaplan, so I'm excited to see how it translates into the show considering I have no idea what's going on 😭😭
It's arguable that Billy is more powerful than Wanda, actually. Chaos magic is the element of change, and thus is capable of rewriting reality. Billy's powers, similarly, have always been called "reality warping", but in truth that's not how it works. It only works like that now because Billy wants/needs it to. Eventually Billy will possess the power of true, godlike creation. (His first life was the creator of the marvel universe elder gods or something)
I'm glad they all got there powers back 😊 When the Billie Eillish song came out of nowhere while Teen/Wiccan was looking directly in the camera it was so funny but underrated at the same time but Joe Locke lowkey ate that scene 💙 (It would’ve been so much better if his eyes turned blue like Scarlett’s eyes changed to red)
HE ATE THE WHOLE SCENE SO BAD!!! You saw I was gagged lol. I love moments like that so much. The Billie song for the Billy reveal was so so good. And yes!! Billy's eyes changing would have been a good addition to the scene, hopefully they do that in the future since we got the crown too. I also have no idea where Rio is. Maybe still back at the trial or just doing Rio things. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
From the first two episode people were telling that Teen is Billy. In episode 3 they tried to mislead us that he is Agatha's son, but it was still kinda obvious that he is Billy.
The witches were being callous about Alice’s death then Agatha was still disrespecting him with “pet”. He got mad like Wanda. I do think he wants his mother back
Thank you for pointing that out!!! I wasn't phased by them being callous because that's their reality after living for hundreds of years, but I understand Billy's response because he truly wants them to be his coven. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
Yesss. The death of Alice and the others brushing it off definitely triggered his emotions enough to reveal himself and use his powers!! Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
When Agatha says “Are you sure?” When teen says that he won’t kill for his own agenda, it’s because Teen killed Sharon to gain a spot in the coven and Agatha knows it that’s why her personality changes with him and she’s using that information to keep him loyal to her as a pet.
Oh wowwww i didn't even think to associate Teen with Sharon's death in that way. Most of us think he struck a deal with Rio, but I can definitely see that, too. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
Pretty close. The "Are you sure?" line reads differently after seeing episode 8. When I first saw this, I thought Agatha dropped hard into her villain persona because of a) trauma from the trial (her mother/her son) and b) Billy, whom she'd come to care for, refuses to believe her when she tells him she couldn't control it. Then he rejects her. So, you've been told you're evil all of your life and no matter what you do, everyone will think the worst of you, then why not be a villain? And then Billy f*ckin' Maximoff comes all holier than thou--just like his mother, it's a step too far. Agatha did get punished. Three of Swords, baby, and why not keep being a witch killer? Edit: typos
Agatha figured Billy out and that he wasn’t Nicholas bc he was able to say “Nicholas Scratch”. At that point she realized who he really was. I think Billy placed the sigil on himself. He didn’t know who he was, but he manipulated Agatha to get him on the road to give him the thing he’s missing. Not power. Billy is missing Wanda. I think Billy made a pact with Death. He’s feeding death as many witches as possible to get Wanda at the end of the road. BUT, I think they died on the road but not in the real world.
Yes!! There was realization in her eyes when he said Nicholas and I agree he's looking for Wanda. I love your idea that he mad a pact with Death. You're the first to suggest so and I can see that being true because Billy and Rio showed up on the same day looking for Agatha. I'm so skeptical about the deaths in this show, so I agree that they may not be dead in the real world. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
@@briianasimone with all the deaths so far I’ve noticed 1) Rio is ALWAYS right there when Sharon died and was gone abruptly after Alice’s death in this episode. 2) with every mention of Death, Rio looks to the side. I thought she was looking at Agatha but now I think she was looking at Billy. . 😱
For those who want to understand the full implications of the reveal, but didnt quite understand, spoilers below: The implication, Billy put the sigil on himself in episode 1. It broke when Agatha figured out who he is. This confirms he is Demiurge Wiccan, the embodiment of good chaos magic on Earth, (or should I say Billy Kaplan, the reincarnation of Billy Maximoff, Wanda's son.) And he just deemed the rest of the Coven unworthy to finish the witches' road with him.
@@JeronisLerorSPOILERS waittttttt he's able to dictate if the other witches get to finish the road with him???? I thought he was a little evil himself, but to learn he's the embodiment of good chaos magic OMG. I'm even more gagged 😲😲😲😲😲😲😲 Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
The full implications though are more interesting. He's still on the road. With Lady Death and The Salem 7 trapped there with him. Looks like Agatha has to save him. Uh oh.
@briianasimone Spoilers yup. In order for him to still have powers at all, Chaos Magic needed to have an embodiment. With Wanda dead, his new body would be powerless. So, they are confirming that he has already come into his full power, like Wanda did at the end of Wandavision with that crown. Can he fully control it? No. Neither could Wanda. He is also canonically the only Marvel character who is both pure of heart and good intentioned, but ALSO VERY VERY PETTY.
@JeronisLeror ahhh the Petty Prince to be. Thank you for sharing this omg i think i love his character even more now with this knowledge. I was wondering how powerful he was since I figured he'd have to be pretty powerful to fully control two witches. I can't wait to see where episode 6 takes us. It's looking like it'll be from his pov, so I'm EXCITEDDDDD
My hope is that this will make sense next episode, when I hope it will be Lilia who starts the explanations. Three things to take note of: 1. The tv on in the background showing static 2. It begins with what we think is real, but it was Lilia's dream. She wakes everyone up to tell them the Seven are here. 3. The aspect ratio didn't change this time I'm also just going to mention a few movies here... Mulholland Drive, Paranormal Activity, Fight Club, Inception, Nightmare on Elm Street
Hmmmm okay, I took Lilia's dream as a look into her premonitions, but I like the idea that none of this may be real. I noticed the tv too and there are a lot of scenes in the trailer that supports this, so I'm excited how they explain this in future episodes!! Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
Also one of my crazy theories (which wouldn't make sense probably) is that it's Rio all along lol. If she's lady death and only wants bodies the whole time, it's easy to think she's only playing with this witches and then make some deaths one by one. This time she plays with Agatha's dead mother so that a Protection witch would dispell her, and when Alice did, Agatha's urge to steal power would kill her. Rio then gets what she wants. A body.
Yes!! Rio is connected to this somehow if not a major part, so I think you're on to something. Some else's theory is Billy teamed up with Rio to get what he wants, so we'll have to see how it plays out. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
I'm so happy Billy is back! and I LOVE how he gets the crown like his mother did! so amazing! I can't wait to see his powers moving forward in Agatha All Along (and hopefully he returns to the MCU after the show ends, he'd make an awesome addition!) I do feel bad for Jen and Lilia, yes, they sided with Agatha about Alice's death and out for their own power, but I do think they are only doing this due to their own trauma, after Agatha coming face-to-face with her mom who wanted her dead, I think Jen and Lilia started thinking about what led them to being powerless and such. also I wonder what Rio is gonna do, cause she wasn't with them when they left the trial, so I wonder if she's gonna go into the mud to try and save Agatha or befriend Billy (probably try and save Agatha and then see what's up with Billy imo)
Yes!! I love that he got a crown like Wanda (i didn't know his headpiece was originally a headband, so the crown is definitely an upgrade, lol). He's absolutely gonna be on of the majors players in the MCU moving forward and I'm excited because I love Billy already. I agree about Jen and Lilia they were obviously emotionally about Alice's death, but having lived for so long, they know death is a part of life, and they've had to pick themselves up and move on many times before. I don't blame them for their responses, tho. Now Rio.. i have no idea where she disappears to lol. They do such a good job at distracting me, so I forget she's supposed to be there. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
@@briianasimone I didn't realize his headpiece was a headband either, lol. I just love how this show leaves you wanting for more at the end of each episode! I was talking to my friends and one of them said that Rio probably stayed behind in the trial for a bit with Alice to collect her soul or something, since she tried to make a deal with Agatha in Alice's trial, saying Agatha gets her power and Rio gets her bodies. so my friend was thinking she probably stayed behind to collect her soul or whatever it is Rio does and that's why we don't see her when Billy attacks Agatha
I hope they are still in the trial and it’s a hallucination bc I hated it so much. This was brutal for Agatha and I feel like she absolutely didn’t mean to hurt Alice, just like her first coven. Nobody, starting with her mom, has ever taken care of her or tried to help her. She begged for help controlling it and her mom was ruthless. She didn’t mean to kill then but they deserved it- and her mom was controlling Agatha and baiting an attack just like she was already begging them to hurt her. Everyone in MCU seems to just want to assume she’s evil and did it all on purpose and cast her aside. But once again, this is Agatha’s show and we have 4 episodes left so I don’t buy all this.
I agree. I sometimes don't know how to read Agatha, but when she was alone after leaving the trail there was no need to look as sad/devastated as she did if she truly meant to steal Alice's power and kill her. I think ones someone gives her their power, especially if they aren't stronger than her like Wanda, she ends up consuming them. Idk if Agatha herself is evil or if her power is evil. I absolutely don't mind rooting for a good villain so if she is one than fair, but I want to know if depth if she means to kill people when she steals their power or not. We'll see next week tho!!! 💕
This trial is most definitely for either Billy or Agatha. Agatha in a way for her to face her truth. She's power hungry and manipulative. And probably would've ended with Alice saving her and then realizing they're talking to his son in th Ouija board. She doesn't have to steal Alice's power. In Billy's case, it serves as his awakening. Darkest Hours Wake Thy Power seems like it is to Billy and his powers.
Where is Rio lady death would surely love to have Billy on her side, and maybe possessed Agatha to say those things, and Billy’s more powerful than Wanda, he can warp reality so he can bring them all back
@sundager8735 so what your telling me is that I'm not naive to keep hope alive that everyone whose died/will die may not stay dead? Love that for me because I'm so skeptical of every death in this show 😁😲 thank you for watching and commenting 💕
@@jasonrivera2913 we don't know how close to comic canon they'll be sticking. If this is Wiccan, then it's true Wanda is stronger - if he is The Demiurge then he's more powerful than... well, pretty much everything. There's a reason that even the Celestials in the comics were scared of THAT version of Billy.
@@stephendaniels2213 Even if he were demiurge he would not be more powerful than Scarlet Witch, perhaps at the same power level but no more, taking into account what Scarlet Witch is today if we are talking about comics.
That's exciting!!! He's the most powerful person in the MCU right now right? I can't wait to see the implication of Billy in this series and the whole universe. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
I personally think that's not the Billy we learn about throughout the series. Atleast not entirely. I think he cast the sigil on himself so he kept the desire to walk the road but stayed the way he was enough to not tip Agatha off. When she figures it out, the sigil breaks and he's able to lock back in. Not too sure- but I think the idea of the sigil being self inflicted would be cool
@aspen1889 i definitely agree that he cast the sigil on himself, but like you said, we'll just have to wait and see if he's the same Billy at the start of the season. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
i don't think elizabeth olsen will come back (though i'll be very happy to be wrong about that) so my theory is that billy is looking for tommy. the comics explanation for the twins coming back is, long story short, wanda altered reality so that they were born to different families and existed all along. they are her kids still, but essentially were reincarnated. if that's the explanation they use here, billy would potentially know he has/had a twin, but not know his last name or where he is, even. and it's not like he could track tommy down through any sort of legal records. the witches' road could give him that answer. he also mightve been angry about being compared to his mother and that's why he lashed out. he would have pretty good reason to, given that he's grown up in/near westview and the people there really do not like her. though that would be assuming he knows that he's wanda's son, which is something he doesn't find out until later in comics which sparks the children's crusade storyline
@endless_del Oh, that's an interesting theory that he doesn't know he's Wanda's son!! I just had the strangest thought... they wouldn't make his "boyfriend" his twin brother, right... RIGHT? The actor of said boyfriend told an interviewer he plays a mystery character 🙃😩. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
Yes your 100%right and the thing is she killed Alice for no reason cuz the power burnt out as soon as she stepped in the road it just shows Agatha character
yes, thank you!! when presented with a situation she's experienced thousands of times over her lifetime she chose what she knew: the comfort of power. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
Agatha clearly didn't take lessons quite well isn't she. She messed with the mom and she got what she actually deserved. Now she's messing with the son. And look how she ended up into? And this is probably what Agatha meant by you're so much like your mother. They are very emotional people. Whenever there's a person closest to them who's in danger or worst 'Dead', they get so emotional they're going on spiral. Like Wanda when Pietro and Vision died. This time, Alice.
He may bring the whole family back tbh. Vision, Tommy, and Wanda who is the main person who is absolutely come back!! Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
I've never played with a Ouija board but I think they are dumb. They are made by Hasbro. It's like saying Twister is the Devil's tool. I'm not worried about the actors. ETA: I don't mean to mock, I should say. I know my church warned against them but I think that is giving a commercial product power that it doesn't deserve.
No, worries. I get this perspective, but I've personally had family members experience the opposite, so that's why I'm curious about actors playing with the board. But who knows what real or not. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
Oh interesting!! I wasn't sure what language it was since he spoke Latin earlier so I assumed it was that again, but that's cool to know it's German. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
.....I'm not sure any of this (except Rio) is real...He is JUST Like his Mother......what if most of this is a construct, another Hex. Billy did 'Break' Wandas curse...but what if he didn't? What if he just shifted the narrative?
WAIT!!!! I LOVE THIS. There are so many possibilities now that Teen is confirmed to be Billy. I absolutely think this is a construct of his making. I can't wait to see how they continue this narrative in the last couple episodes. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
You should see me in a crown? More like you should see me with a frown, because that was the expression on my face after they did my girl Alice so dirty.
@@briianasimone That was cruel. She just freed herself from the damn curse, and they just kill her like that? How very dare they? (Thank you for making videos on this show 😄)
someone else said that too. i'm crying😭😭 they probably did that on purpose because they did pause before showing the H. thank you for watching and commenting 💕
I was really starting to like Alice…It’s a shame she died 😢 Her development was so good, she started off self-loathing and blamed herself for failing and not being able to protect her mother. Only to realise it’s not her fault and it was a curse. Her and Billy’s moments were so wholesome, they had the cutest sibling dynamic. But to be honest, I don’t think Alice and Mrs. Hart will be dead; and possibly Jennifer and Lilia as well- I predict that by the end of the show, Agatha once she completes each trial and confronts Teen who is now Billy. She realises that she cares about them, and she reflects on why she walked the Witches’ Road to begin with. Initially, she wanted power. But each trial makes her realise she loves her coven. So I’m predicting once Agatha regains her magic and completes the Road and defeat the Salem Seven, she uses her magic to resurrect Alice, Lilia, Jennifer and Mrs. Hart and makes them part of her coven. A coven not for power, but a coven of sisterhood.
YES!!!!!!! THIS IS MY EXACT WISH. The emphasis on resurrection is so heavy in the show and I don't see them not going down that path. I agree with your point about Alice, I'm genuinely sad they killed her off right after she got closure, but if she actually is dead I'm glad she was able to get closer with her mom and let the self-loathing and anger go... but I absolutely don't think anyone is dying for real in this show because I have a gut feeling about it. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
@@briianasimone Considering Teen is confirmed to be Billy, that just makes the allegations of Wanda being alive even more possible. I truly don’t think any of these witches are dying, considering how a lyric of the Ballad goes: “If one be gone, we carry on. Spirit as our guide.” and “With coven true, glory shall be thine.”
@@elusivo3347 Oh i like your last point with the ballad!! Maybe the true test of the road is the coven's loyalty and that's why Agatha has never walked the road because she would know that
Mrs. Hart/ Sharon Davis is a possibility that Teen had a hand on her demise but Alice's death was obviously Agatha's doing as she drained her powers and her life along with it.
ooooo do we think we're getting a song for him too lol. The Agatha reveal and song was iconic. And yep... he may need to feed Rio bodies like Agatha did. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
Yeah, I had a negative reaction to the "I am judge and jury" teenage temper tantrum. He goes full teen from this point out (complete with the "whatever") for a good bit. I didn't mind the shakeup to his interactions with Agatha. I just didn't find him his most likeable. And worst of all, he ruined the gorgeous coat!! 💔
lol yes!!! We may put too much hope in Agatha, but I love a good villain so she may be one, but with a mother like that??? Idk it's definitely more complicated than being evil. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
UM YOU GUYS????? I don't know how many times I can say that I'm gagged, but I am. Please drop all of your thoughts and theories below
@@briianasimone such a fabulous show, but it is killing me with the deaths first Sharon and now Alice 😭
@lucyhalefan581 Same 😩 but i have a feeling they're coming back 🤞🏾 they have to be one big happy-disfunctional coven by the end of the series
@@briianasimone I hope so 🥰
I think he threw Jen and Lilia in as well because they essentially sided with Agatha regarding Alice's death. I think Alice is the coven member he felt the closest to. She opened up to him a bit in the first trial and he reciprocated, she was the first to notice something wasn't right with him at the end of the second trial, and before the third trial she exchanged the broom with him. Jen basically agreeing that the other's deaths didn't matter as long as they got power from it, and Lilia basically shrugging it off saying everyone dies anyway I think pissed him off. So to him, he isn't hurting innocent people. He's punishing callous people.
Yes, yes, yes!! I definitely agree with this after giving it some thought once I finished the episode. I personally wasn't sure if Teen was bad, good, or even neutral because it seemed like he had moments of both. Alice was easily his favorite, like you said after they bonded. It makes me sad that he genuinely just wants to learn and/or be in a coven with them, but they're so individualistic and out for self that he'll never be able to depend on them like that. Moving forward, I hope to see all of the women shed the years of hurt and trauma to start anew. The callouses didn't grow overnight, so I get where they're coming from. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
@@briianasimone Thank you for your recording your reaction! I enjoyed watching. I do also think a lot of their issues come from their trauma and grief. It was shown that they were growing close as friends and now that Alice is suddenly dead I think they immediately closed off emotionally to protect themselves and focused on why they are putting themselves on this path in the first place. Teen from the beginning has been the one most promoting unity within the coven and I think he realized he couldn't unify them because they couldn't care for each other that way (due to their own fears of being hurt). I'm hoping they can grow but as soon as Alice was able to grow she died so 💀 I'm a tad salty about that because it feels very narratively unsatisfying for her. Justice for Alice! :( But Wiccan has been my favorite superhero for like, the last 15 years so I'm very excited to see more of him :)
Billy has the same reality warping power as his mother but it’s always been ambiguous to if he uses chaos magic too he’s been called the son of chaos and chaos user on occasions. As the demiurge he also has a lot more power then a standard magic user
Oooh okay!! So I wonder what they'll make canon for him in the MCU, but either way I'm excited to see who the real Billy is and how his magic works. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
Can i just say, I'm so happy to be excited about a show after so long? I've missed this feeling
And people said no one asked for this show 😂. Jokes
And it feels like real TV!
same director/team of wandavision so ofc it won’t disappoint 😁
RIGHT???? And people were trying to say no one would watch this Marvel show because it woman lead... well HA. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
@@briianasimone I always watch your reactions just after I've watched the ep! Thank you for giving me company in my excitement when I don't have any company for watching Agatha IRL 💙😂
“Alice don’t save Agatha” I’m glad you pointed that out because I would of never noticed :O
I’m so sad about Alice but I think maybe it’ll be an arc for Billy like Wanda’s losses
Also as a Billy Kaplan Stan I was screaming at the ending 😭😭😍
Btw, I really hope he wishes for his mom or his brother 👀
@andrewvega5567 Yes!! Lilia's premonitions finally had to mean something so I kept them in my back pocket until we got a full phrase, but I'm so sad Alice ended up dying after completing her TRAIL 😭😭😭 I'm just happy she was able to forgive her mother and let go of her anger before she departed. Hopefully, they're together and at peace. I couldn't even contain my excitement at the end, even though I barely knew what I was excited for 🤣 He's most definitely wishing for his family back and I bet he'll get it
Yes because him and Alice built a bond and for him to see her dead like that triggered him and no one care
I mean, if hes already here, i imagine tommy is out there somewhere, speeding around, stealing shit.
I was like, "MR. SHART!?"
@lonelyguy5799 not shart omgg 😭😭😭 i knew i was my girl Sharon as soon as it said Mrs. Also, thank you for watching and commenting 💕
I wonder whether Billy throwing the other witches into the quicksand was temporarily sending them off the Road, somehow? Is he powerful enough to do that? In some of the trailer clips we see Jen crawling out from underground back into Westview. In some of the promo/behind the scenes footage Agatha also looks extremely muddy lol. They've got to get back to the Road somehow though, because we know there are more trials with Jen, Lilia, and Agatha to come... I feel like I have so many more questions than answers after this episode, I'm not sure what exactly Agatha and Billy know and how they know it, I feel like Rio is involved but I'm not sure how. What was Nicholas Scratch asking Agatha not to do??
R.I.P. Alice, she did not deserve that. :(
Nicholas was asking her to stop draining Alice.
Short answer yes.
Billy is very powerful like Dr Strange OP WANDA powerful. He literally warps reality
I think your right!!! Billy sent them off the road somehow, but the road may be more powerful than him, so the witches who entered probably have to continue until they reach the end or die. We are always left with so many questions OMG. I know a lot of people have comic book knowledge and Billy Kaplan, so I'm excited to see how it translates into the show considering I have no idea what's going on 😭😭
It's arguable that Billy is more powerful than Wanda, actually. Chaos magic is the element of change, and thus is capable of rewriting reality. Billy's powers, similarly, have always been called "reality warping", but in truth that's not how it works. It only works like that now because Billy wants/needs it to. Eventually Billy will possess the power of true, godlike creation. (His first life was the creator of the marvel universe elder gods or something)
I'm glad they all got there powers back 😊 When the Billie Eillish song came out of nowhere while Teen/Wiccan was looking directly in the camera it was so funny but underrated at the same time but Joe Locke lowkey ate that scene 💙 (It would’ve been so much better if his eyes turned blue like Scarlett’s eyes changed to red)
HE ATE THE WHOLE SCENE SO BAD!!! You saw I was gagged lol. I love moments like that so much. The Billie song for the Billy reveal was so so good. And yes!! Billy's eyes changing would have been a good addition to the scene, hopefully they do that in the future since we got the crown too. I also have no idea where Rio is. Maybe still back at the trial or just doing Rio things. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
From the first two episode people were telling that Teen is Billy. In episode 3 they tried to mislead us that he is Agatha's son, but it was still kinda obvious that he is Billy.
I think that Billy is trying to to bring his brother back
The witches were being callous about Alice’s death then Agatha was still disrespecting him with “pet”. He got mad like Wanda. I do think he wants his mother back
Thank you for pointing that out!!! I wasn't phased by them being callous because that's their reality after living for hundreds of years, but I understand Billy's response because he truly wants them to be his coven. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
It seems awakening of billy's power, he controlled jen and lilia then overpowered him that he blast off the 2.
Yesss. The death of Alice and the others brushing it off definitely triggered his emotions enough to reveal himself and use his powers!! Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
Welcome to the mcu Wiccan 💯
When Agatha says “Are you sure?” When teen says that he won’t kill for his own agenda, it’s because Teen killed Sharon to gain a spot in the coven and Agatha knows it that’s why her personality changes with him and she’s using that information to keep him loyal to her as a pet.
Oh wowwww i didn't even think to associate Teen with Sharon's death in that way. Most of us think he struck a deal with Rio, but I can definitely see that, too. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
Pretty close. The "Are you sure?" line reads differently after seeing episode 8. When I first saw this, I thought Agatha dropped hard into her villain persona because of a) trauma from the trial (her mother/her son) and b) Billy, whom she'd come to care for, refuses to believe her when she tells him she couldn't control it. Then he rejects her. So, you've been told you're evil all of your life and no matter what you do, everyone will think the worst of you, then why not be a villain? And then Billy f*ckin' Maximoff comes all holier than thou--just like his mother, it's a step too far. Agatha did get punished. Three of Swords, baby, and why not keep being a witch killer?
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Agatha figured Billy out and that he wasn’t Nicholas bc he was able to say “Nicholas Scratch”.
At that point she realized who he really was.
I think Billy placed the sigil on himself. He didn’t know who he was, but he manipulated Agatha to get him on the road to give him the thing he’s missing.
Not power.
Billy is missing Wanda.
I think Billy made a pact with Death. He’s feeding death as many witches as possible to get Wanda at the end of the road.
BUT, I think they died on the road but not in the real world.
Yes!! There was realization in her eyes when he said Nicholas and I agree he's looking for Wanda. I love your idea that he mad a pact with Death. You're the first to suggest so and I can see that being true because Billy and Rio showed up on the same day looking for Agatha.
I'm so skeptical about the deaths in this show, so I agree that they may not be dead in the real world. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
@@briianasimone with all the deaths so far I’ve noticed 1) Rio is ALWAYS right there when Sharon died and was gone abruptly after Alice’s death in this episode. 2) with every mention of Death, Rio looks to the side. I thought she was looking at Agatha but now I think she was looking at Billy. . 😱
@Persephone_Personified OMG!!!! I need to go back and watch because I've noticed Rio looking at Teen, but i thought she was just weary of him
For those who want to understand the full implications of the reveal, but didnt quite understand, spoilers below:
The implication, Billy put the sigil on himself in episode 1. It broke when Agatha figured out who he is. This confirms he is Demiurge Wiccan, the embodiment of good chaos magic on Earth, (or should I say Billy Kaplan, the reincarnation of Billy Maximoff, Wanda's son.) And he just deemed the rest of the Coven unworthy to finish the witches' road with him.
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waittttttt he's able to dictate if the other witches get to finish the road with him???? I thought he was a little evil himself, but to learn he's the embodiment of good chaos magic OMG. I'm even more gagged 😲😲😲😲😲😲😲
Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
The full implications though are more interesting. He's still on the road. With Lady Death and The Salem 7 trapped there with him. Looks like Agatha has to save him. Uh oh.
@@JeronisLeror ohh i actually love that. I'm still gonna get my Agatha as a surrogate mother storyline
@briianasimone Spoilers
yup. In order for him to still have powers at all, Chaos Magic needed to have an embodiment. With Wanda dead, his new body would be powerless. So, they are confirming that he has already come into his full power, like Wanda did at the end of Wandavision with that crown. Can he fully control it? No. Neither could Wanda. He is also canonically the only Marvel character who is both pure of heart and good intentioned, but ALSO VERY VERY PETTY.
@JeronisLeror ahhh the Petty Prince to be. Thank you for sharing this omg i think i love his character even more now with this knowledge. I was wondering how powerful he was since I figured he'd have to be pretty powerful to fully control two witches. I can't wait to see where episode 6 takes us. It's looking like it'll be from his pov, so I'm EXCITEDDDDD
He's the demiurge and he didn't kill them but kicked them off the road and sent them back to Westview....very much Odin banishing Thor
Oh I like that comparison and I agree, I don't think he killed them or truly hurt them either. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
My hope is that this will make sense next episode, when I hope it will be Lilia who starts the explanations.
Three things to take note of:
1. The tv on in the background showing static
2. It begins with what we think is real, but it was Lilia's dream. She wakes everyone up to tell them the Seven are here.
3. The aspect ratio didn't change this time
I'm also just going to mention a few movies here...
Mulholland Drive, Paranormal Activity, Fight Club, Inception, Nightmare on Elm Street
Yeah, this will feel cheap to reel back in, but I am almost certain this is Lilia's premonition dream!
Hmmmm okay, I took Lilia's dream as a look into her premonitions, but I like the idea that none of this may be real. I noticed the tv too and there are a lot of scenes in the trailer that supports this, so I'm excited how they explain this in future episodes!! Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
Also one of my crazy theories (which wouldn't make sense probably) is that it's Rio all along lol.
If she's lady death and only wants bodies the whole time, it's easy to think she's only playing with this witches and then make some deaths one by one. This time she plays with Agatha's dead mother so that a Protection witch would dispell her, and when Alice did, Agatha's urge to steal power would kill her.
Rio then gets what she wants. A body.
Yes!! Rio is connected to this somehow if not a major part, so I think you're on to something. Some else's theory is Billy teamed up with Rio to get what he wants, so we'll have to see how it plays out. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
I'm so happy Billy is back! and I LOVE how he gets the crown like his mother did! so amazing! I can't wait to see his powers moving forward in Agatha All Along (and hopefully he returns to the MCU after the show ends, he'd make an awesome addition!)
I do feel bad for Jen and Lilia, yes, they sided with Agatha about Alice's death and out for their own power, but I do think they are only doing this due to their own trauma, after Agatha coming face-to-face with her mom who wanted her dead, I think Jen and Lilia started thinking about what led them to being powerless and such.
also I wonder what Rio is gonna do, cause she wasn't with them when they left the trial, so I wonder if she's gonna go into the mud to try and save Agatha or befriend Billy (probably try and save Agatha and then see what's up with Billy imo)
Yes!! I love that he got a crown like Wanda (i didn't know his headpiece was originally a headband, so the crown is definitely an upgrade, lol). He's absolutely gonna be on of the majors players in the MCU moving forward and I'm excited because I love Billy already. I agree about Jen and Lilia they were obviously emotionally about Alice's death, but having lived for so long, they know death is a part of life, and they've had to pick themselves up and move on many times before. I don't blame them for their responses, tho. Now Rio.. i have no idea where she disappears to lol. They do such a good job at distracting me, so I forget she's supposed to be there. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
@@briianasimone I didn't realize his headpiece was a headband either, lol.
I just love how this show leaves you wanting for more at the end of each episode! I was talking to my friends and one of them said that Rio probably stayed behind in the trial for a bit with Alice to collect her soul or something, since she tried to make a deal with Agatha in Alice's trial, saying Agatha gets her power and Rio gets her bodies. so my friend was thinking she probably stayed behind to collect her soul or whatever it is Rio does and that's why we don't see her when Billy attacks Agatha
Love the Crown and the Billie Elish crown song 🎵 💕 ❤
such a good needle drop!!!! I'm a sucker for moments like that. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
Happy Agatha along day 💜
@@lucyhalefan581 Happy Agatha All Along day!! Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
@@briianasimone you are so welcome.fabulous channel 🥰
I hope they are still in the trial and it’s a hallucination bc I hated it so much.
This was brutal for Agatha and I feel like she absolutely didn’t mean to hurt Alice, just like her first coven. Nobody, starting with her mom, has ever taken care of her or tried to help her. She begged for help controlling it and her mom was ruthless. She didn’t mean to kill then but they deserved it- and her mom was controlling Agatha and baiting an attack just like she was already begging them to hurt her.
Everyone in MCU seems to just want to assume she’s evil and did it all on purpose and cast her aside.
But once again, this is Agatha’s show and we have 4 episodes left so I don’t buy all this.
I agree. I sometimes don't know how to read Agatha, but when she was alone after leaving the trail there was no need to look as sad/devastated as she did if she truly meant to steal Alice's power and kill her. I think ones someone gives her their power, especially if they aren't stronger than her like Wanda, she ends up consuming them. Idk if Agatha herself is evil or if her power is evil. I absolutely don't mind rooting for a good villain so if she is one than fair, but I want to know if depth if she means to kill people when she steals their power or not. We'll see next week tho!!! 💕
This trial is most definitely for either Billy or Agatha.
Agatha in a way for her to face her truth. She's power hungry and manipulative. And probably would've ended with Alice saving her and then realizing they're talking to his son in th Ouija board. She doesn't have to steal Alice's power.
In Billy's case, it serves as his awakening. Darkest Hours Wake Thy Power seems like it is to Billy and his powers.
Where is Rio lady death would surely love to have Billy on her side, and maybe possessed Agatha to say those things, and Billy’s more powerful than Wanda, he can warp reality so he can bring them all back
@sundager8735 so what your telling me is that I'm not naive to keep hope alive that everyone whose died/will die may not stay dead? Love that for me because I'm so skeptical of every death in this show 😁😲 thank you for watching and commenting 💕
Shoot yes where was RIO?
Nope billy is not as powerful as the scarlet witch
@@jasonrivera2913 we don't know how close to comic canon they'll be sticking. If this is Wiccan, then it's true Wanda is stronger - if he is The Demiurge then he's more powerful than... well, pretty much everything. There's a reason that even the Celestials in the comics were scared of THAT version of Billy.
@@stephendaniels2213 Even if he were demiurge he would not be more powerful than Scarlet Witch, perhaps at the same power level but no more, taking into account what Scarlet Witch is today if we are talking about comics.
In the comics Billy is the Demiurge which is essentially a lot more powerful than the Scarlett Witch.
That's exciting!!! He's the most powerful person in the MCU right now right? I can't wait to see the implication of Billy in this series and the whole universe. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
I personally think that's not the Billy we learn about throughout the series. Atleast not entirely. I think he cast the sigil on himself so he kept the desire to walk the road but stayed the way he was enough to not tip Agatha off. When she figures it out, the sigil breaks and he's able to lock back in. Not too sure- but I think the idea of the sigil being self inflicted would be cool
@aspen1889 i definitely agree that he cast the sigil on himself, but like you said, we'll just have to wait and see if he's the same Billy at the start of the season. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
i don't think elizabeth olsen will come back (though i'll be very happy to be wrong about that) so my theory is that billy is looking for tommy. the comics explanation for the twins coming back is, long story short, wanda altered reality so that they were born to different families and existed all along. they are her kids still, but essentially were reincarnated. if that's the explanation they use here, billy would potentially know he has/had a twin, but not know his last name or where he is, even. and it's not like he could track tommy down through any sort of legal records. the witches' road could give him that answer.
he also mightve been angry about being compared to his mother and that's why he lashed out. he would have pretty good reason to, given that he's grown up in/near westview and the people there really do not like her. though that would be assuming he knows that he's wanda's son, which is something he doesn't find out until later in comics which sparks the children's crusade storyline
@endless_del Oh, that's an interesting theory that he doesn't know he's Wanda's son!! I just had the strangest thought... they wouldn't make his "boyfriend" his twin brother, right... RIGHT? The actor of said boyfriend told an interviewer he plays a mystery character 🙃😩. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
@briianasimone oh i really hope not LMAO
If Alice isn’t brought back in some way or another I’m rioting.
I'll be right there with you, but I have a gut feeling that she'll be brought back 🤞🏾🤞🏾
@@briianasimone PLEASEEEE. May Hecate grant us that miracle. We need our protection queen back.
Well, I'm glad we all got to know who's actual son Teen is now after so many confusing theories being thrown at us 💙 (Where was Rio at in the end? 😭)
Yes your 100%right and the thing is she killed Alice for no reason cuz the power burnt out as soon as she stepped in the road it just shows Agatha character
yes, thank you!! when presented with a situation she's experienced thousands of times over her lifetime she chose what she knew: the comfort of power. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
Agatha clearly didn't take lessons quite well isn't she. She messed with the mom and she got what she actually deserved. Now she's messing with the son. And look how she ended up into?
And this is probably what Agatha meant by you're so much like your mother. They are very emotional people. Whenever there's a person closest to them who's in danger or worst 'Dead', they get so emotional they're going on spiral. Like Wanda when Pietro and Vision died. This time, Alice.
I think Billy is trying to get Tommy back!
He may bring the whole family back tbh. Vision, Tommy, and Wanda who is the main person who is absolutely come back!! Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
What if Billy was there not for himself but to resurrect his mother
Yes!!!! I'd even take that a step further and say his whole family. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
@@briianasimone Wanda is my absolute favorite!! I would lose it if she makes an appearance!! And I love your videos!!❤️❤️
Maybe his point is to bring His mother Back
I've never played with a Ouija board but I think they are dumb. They are made by Hasbro. It's like saying Twister is the Devil's tool. I'm not worried about the actors.
ETA: I don't mean to mock, I should say. I know my church warned against them but I think that is giving a commercial product power that it doesn't deserve.
No, worries. I get this perspective, but I've personally had family members experience the opposite, so that's why I'm curious about actors playing with the board. But who knows what real or not. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
the first reaction that I realized teen spoke German with Hexenbesen, it's as bad pronounced as the stuff in Grimm unfortunately.
Oh interesting!! I wasn't sure what language it was since he spoke Latin earlier so I assumed it was that again, but that's cool to know it's German. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
.....I'm not sure any of this (except Rio) is real...He is JUST Like his Mother......what if most of this is a construct, another Hex. Billy did 'Break' Wandas curse...but what if he didn't? What if he just shifted the narrative?
WAIT!!!! I LOVE THIS. There are so many possibilities now that Teen is confirmed to be Billy. I absolutely think this is a construct of his making. I can't wait to see how they continue this narrative in the last couple episodes. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
You should see me in a crown? More like you should see me with a frown, because that was the expression on my face after they did my girl Alice so dirty.
@luishp3 no right 😭😭 distracted us good and well after doing Alice dirty once she found peace 🥹 thank you for watching and commenting 💕
@@briianasimone That was cruel. She just freed herself from the damn curse, and they just kill her like that? How very dare they? (Thank you for making videos on this show 😄)
Wanda sonnnnn 💙
Team Wanda up 1,000%. Thank you for watching and commenting 😲
I was watching the ouji part and it said m r so I immediately thought mr…. S h a r t, Mr shart????
someone else said that too. i'm crying😭😭 they probably did that on purpose because they did pause before showing the H. thank you for watching and commenting 💕
@@briianasimone np I had to go to sleep halfway through the video so I put it in my watch later
I was really starting to like Alice…It’s a shame she died 😢 Her development was so good, she started off self-loathing and blamed herself for failing and not being able to protect her mother. Only to realise it’s not her fault and it was a curse. Her and Billy’s moments were so wholesome, they had the cutest sibling dynamic.
But to be honest, I don’t think Alice and Mrs. Hart will be dead; and possibly Jennifer and Lilia as well- I predict that by the end of the show, Agatha once she completes each trial and confronts Teen who is now Billy. She realises that she cares about them, and she reflects on why she walked the Witches’ Road to begin with. Initially, she wanted power. But each trial makes her realise she loves her coven. So I’m predicting once Agatha regains her magic and completes the Road and defeat the Salem Seven, she uses her magic to resurrect Alice, Lilia, Jennifer and Mrs. Hart and makes them part of her coven. A coven not for power, but a coven of sisterhood.
YES!!!!!!! THIS IS MY EXACT WISH. The emphasis on resurrection is so heavy in the show and I don't see them not going down that path. I agree with your point about Alice, I'm genuinely sad they killed her off right after she got closure, but if she actually is dead I'm glad she was able to get closer with her mom and let the self-loathing and anger go... but I absolutely don't think anyone is dying for real in this show because I have a gut feeling about it. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
@@briianasimone Considering Teen is confirmed to be Billy, that just makes the allegations of Wanda being alive even more possible. I truly don’t think any of these witches are dying, considering how a lyric of the Ballad goes: “If one be gone, we carry on. Spirit as our guide.” and “With coven true, glory shall be thine.”
@@elusivo3347 Oh i like your last point with the ballad!! Maybe the true test of the road is the coven's loyalty and that's why Agatha has never walked the road because she would know that
plot twist it was wiccan all along....and he killed Sharron and Ali too
Mrs. Hart/ Sharon Davis is a possibility that Teen had a hand on her demise but Alice's death was obviously Agatha's doing as she drained her powers and her life along with it.
ooooo do we think we're getting a song for him too lol. The Agatha reveal and song was iconic. And yep... he may need to feed Rio bodies like Agatha did. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕
lol i no longer like teen. Which is what I’m going to call him.
hahaha why don't you like him???
Yeah, I had a negative reaction to the "I am judge and jury" teenage temper tantrum. He goes full teen from this point out (complete with the "whatever") for a good bit. I didn't mind the shakeup to his interactions with Agatha. I just didn't find him his most likeable. And worst of all, he ruined the gorgeous coat!! 💔
I had a brief second of hope that Agatha would do right by Alice and give the power back but apparently that was too much to hope for 🥲
lol yes!!! We may put too much hope in Agatha, but I love a good villain so she may be one, but with a mother like that??? Idk it's definitely more complicated than being evil. Thank you for watching and commenting 💕