Small correction, during floodgate trap hole you said you can still use face down monsters as material for an extra deck summon, this is only true for fusion summons (the dark purple ones) and very specific link monsters (the dark blue ones) such as the ghostrick link one or possibly material cost like lanfalikus (not sure on that one)
@@Eliot_Draws it's because while a monster is face down it's considered hidden game knowledge and thus the game cannot verify anything about it (effect, typing, level, attribute, name etc.), the exception for fusion summon is the same reason you can use cards in the hand for most fusion summons and the link monster either specifying or not carrying about any criteria other than being a card treated as a monster P.S sry if I over explained this I just think it's a cool ruling thing
@@Eliot_Draws 1: no it doesnt??? it says destroy all minions , tho i will admit i havent played hearthstone much or twisting nearther at all since locations were introduced and 2 how is it a nerfed version? it banishes a monster which in hearthstone mechanics is essentialy countering it
@@lovroxyz3119 Twisting nether has been updated recently to "Destroy all minions and locations." as they changed many cards effects to make them more competitively viable. Second banishing trap hole only targets minions with 3 attack or less, less generically usable but still very powerful.
@@lovroxyz3119 and I'm talking about Banishing trap hole that targets cards with 1500 or less attack, the one I did talk about since you were asking how is this a nerf, as Bottomless trap hole would be too strong. The reason why I didn't add bottomless trap hole was because I knew it would be the same as objection. At least with banishing trap hole it targets only small minions rather then all minions.
I believe that Giant Trap Hole is worded wrong, currently playing three minions means you would have to play from hand. Summoning three minions would be more of the effect you seemed to describe, Force of nature or Hogger wouldn't trigger the secret unless it said summoned.
I'm confused about what you were talking about during the Dark Hole Dragon section because in the example you gave it's a card adding a specifically named card to your hand just like the original Dark Hole Dragon but you made it seem like they were two different things. And as just a minor rules clarification the only extra deck summon face down monster can be used for is fusion summoning except for in a few cases.
@Eliot_Draws You specified that the Hearthstone version added a Dark Hole to your hand rather than from the deck because, "It's more common to add cards to your hand than draw a specifically named card from your deck." I was just confused because you made it seem like the YuGiOh effect and Hearthstone effects were different even though they both add Dark Hole to your hand from the deck.
@@ThisisThatman Dark hole isn't drawn though, as adding cards in hearthstone is when the game generates a card where if the card is drawn it is taken from the deck. You can add cards that don't exist in your deck but you can't draw cards that don't exist in your deck. The reason why I specified why it added Dark Hole was because there are many instances where you could generate main deck cards instead of drawing a very specific card like with sleetbreaker ADDING a main deck card like Windchill, i.e you don't draw the windchill from your deck it just appears from thin air when sleetbreaker is played since it was ADDED not DRAWN. This is because generating cards is more versatile and less bricky than drawing them.
@Eliot_Draws That's my bad I didn't realize Hearthstone could have you generate cards from nothing although it makes sense because digital only card games tend to do that. So would that make Dark Hole Dragon a theoretically immortal minion that generates infinite board wipes.
I wouldn't say it would make the game better but it would definitely be interesting. Just like how the YuGiOh community made a Hearthstone inspired format that people love.
Then it would make hearthstone absolutely stupid, and zero chance of being played. It's such a dumb question, it makes people no longer interested in your channel at all. Do better.
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3:08 You predicted a Warlock card from the next Hearthstone Expansion
Small correction, during floodgate trap hole you said you can still use face down monsters as material for an extra deck summon, this is only true for fusion summons (the dark purple ones) and very specific link monsters (the dark blue ones) such as the ghostrick link one or possibly material cost like lanfalikus (not sure on that one)
Yeah I didn't know about the restriction on face down monsters.
@@Eliot_Draws it's because while a monster is face down it's considered hidden game knowledge and thus the game cannot verify anything about it (effect, typing, level, attribute, name etc.), the exception for fusion summon is the same reason you can use cards in the hand for most fusion summons and the link monster either specifying or not carrying about any criteria other than being a card treated as a monster
P.S sry if I over explained this I just think it's a cool ruling thing
Dark hole is alredy in game its called twisting neather
Also bottomless trap hole which is just objection
Technically not since twisting nether also destroys locations and bottomless trap hole is a nerfed version of objection.
@@Eliot_Draws 1: no it doesnt??? it says destroy all minions , tho i will admit i havent played hearthstone much or twisting nearther at all since locations were introduced
and 2 how is it a nerfed version? it banishes a monster which in hearthstone mechanics is essentialy countering it
@@lovroxyz3119 Twisting nether has been updated recently to "Destroy all minions and locations." as they changed many cards effects to make them more competitively viable. Second banishing trap hole only targets minions with 3 attack or less, less generically usable but still very powerful.
@@Eliot_Draws i am talking about bottomless trap hole, the one he didnt mention
@@lovroxyz3119 and I'm talking about Banishing trap hole that targets cards with 1500 or less attack, the one I did talk about since you were asking how is this a nerf, as Bottomless trap hole would be too strong. The reason why I didn't add bottomless trap hole was because I knew it would be the same as objection. At least with banishing trap hole it targets only small minions rather then all minions.
Had to up the speed to make him talk normal
brother puts, so many, commas, in his, speech it’s, kind of, annoying,
@@myrusEW even on 1.25 speed i was getting annoyed lmao
Great video, keep it up!
I believe that Giant Trap Hole is worded wrong, currently playing three minions means you would have to play from hand. Summoning three minions would be more of the effect you seemed to describe, Force of nature or Hogger wouldn't trigger the secret unless it said summoned.
Well the thing is most secrets in hearthstone trigger when a card is played so it's more in line with the standard trigger of secrets.
I'm confused about what you were talking about during the Dark Hole Dragon section because in the example you gave it's a card adding a specifically named card to your hand just like the original Dark Hole Dragon but you made it seem like they were two different things.
And as just a minor rules clarification the only extra deck summon face down monster can be used for is fusion summoning except for in a few cases.
didn't know about the extra deck limitation, for dark hole dragon I'm not sure what you mean.
@Eliot_Draws You specified that the Hearthstone version added a Dark Hole to your hand rather than from the deck because, "It's more common to add cards to your hand than draw a specifically named card from your deck." I was just confused because you made it seem like the YuGiOh effect and Hearthstone effects were different even though they both add Dark Hole to your hand from the deck.
@@ThisisThatman Dark hole isn't drawn though, as adding cards in hearthstone is when the game generates a card where if the card is drawn it is taken from the deck. You can add cards that don't exist in your deck but you can't draw cards that don't exist in your deck. The reason why I specified why it added Dark Hole was because there are many instances where you could generate main deck cards instead of drawing a very specific card like with sleetbreaker ADDING a main deck card like Windchill, i.e you don't draw the windchill from your deck it just appears from thin air when sleetbreaker is played since it was ADDED not DRAWN. This is because generating cards is more versatile and less bricky than drawing them.
@Eliot_Draws That's my bad I didn't realize Hearthstone could have you generate cards from nothing although it makes sense because digital only card games tend to do that.
So would that make Dark Hole Dragon a theoretically immortal minion that generates infinite board wipes.
@@ThisisThatman it still relies on your opponent to resummon it since it only comes back if your opponent plays a 4 or higher cost spell.
Adhesion trap hole has a grammar mistake. Then and than are not the same thing.
10 classes? You forgot about Warlock
Oops I forgot to add warlock in. I just remembered the number ten after demon hunter.
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If Yugioh cards were in hearthstone, the game would finally be half decent.
It would make the game more complex, however it would also increase power creep and potentially push out newer players with the amount of text bloat.
I wouldn't say it would make the game better but it would definitely be interesting. Just like how the YuGiOh community made a Hearthstone inspired format that people love.
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Then it would make hearthstone absolutely stupid, and zero chance of being played.
It's such a dumb question, it makes people no longer interested in your channel at all.
Do better.