Very interesting. I've found that a very strong miniature rare-earth magnet, glued on to a stick as a handle, is useful to lift the reed and make a gap, before slipping the brass/bronze reed lifter under to hold it.
I am so glad this video exists. Just got my hands on two hold piano accordions and was struggling with understanding the process for tuning but this has really made it simple. Great video. I was wondering, do you have any tip for repairing bellows, whether it is possible to apply some sort of adhesive or filler to seal old leathers in the corners of each bellow. For air gaps or small pin holes. Also is the tape merely decorative or does this also tighten up the bellows air pressure? Really appreciate this video and the whole series and its been keeping me occupied during this difficult time.
That would be tremendously helpful, if you have any tips in the meantime i would really appreciate, love these videos and your little jokes every now and then!. Also would you have any recommendations for the cent differences to acheive a sound similar to this recording....th-cam.com/video/rGFnClH0E94/w-d-xo.html Im a realtively young folk musician from nottingham and ive got the accordions to beef up my songs bassically....
Thanks Lester, would you advise taking the reeds out for cleaning and tuning one at a time or replace them all in the block and then tune ? I've made my own bellows set up from a small u/s accordion from e bay for £9 ! Bargain.
@@MelodeonTunes Thanks for the reply but I meant should I put them all back in the block before tuning or try and tune them one at a time out of the block ? Thanks.
It is important that you tune them on the blocks as that is the environment in which they will be played. Tuning off the block will get the reed into the ballpark but when they are waxing in place on the block the tuning may/will change.
@@MelodeonTunes Thanks Lester. My first attempt at repairing so may be some time before I get it done, but I'll try and let you know how I get on. It's an 80 year old stradella accordion that I am working on. I have replaced all the felts, nightmare on the (72) bass side , so many rods , levers and springs etc ! lol
Thank you, Lester. I don't have a method of air push/pull. Do you think a Air Mattress Pump Inflator Deflator has enough pressure ? Or do I need to look for an Air Table ?
Lester, I understand the excellent explanation on the mechanics of the tuning process, but need a further explanation in terms of how to utilize your tuning chart to tune the wet or “musette” reeds in my diatonic accordion after tuning the straight reeds. I don’t understand how to create the deviation of cents or beats based on the number values supplied by the chart, as they are unlabeled, except for ‘beatings’ and I cannot surmise with any certainty whether the chart represents the difference in reeds measured in beats per minute or cents or hertz. Thank you, in advance.
@@Bluegamebird The chart shows the offset for each reed so, for example, D4 Hohner shows 20 cents, I would therefore tune one reed to pitch and the tremolo reed to pitch + 20 cents, and so on for each pitch and its offset. The amount of cents offset decreases as the pitch rises to maintain a consistent beat frequency across the box. Hope this helps
@@MelodeonTunes I just bought the phone tuner. I am quite interested in the Dirks tuner por pc. I leave you my whatsApp number +447450805756, maybe. You can inform me more. Thank you and Regards Néstor
Superb and fascinating video. Thank you. Two questions. 1. I don’t understand the physics. Why does scratching produce change in one direction whilst scraping the tip does the opposite? 2. Do you ever run out of reed to scrape or scratch away?
Filing the tip reduces the mass at the tip and thus increases the frequency of occilation, scraping the other end reduces the mass at fixed end for the opposite effect. Yes you can run out of metal, if you file the tip too much the end becomes too flexible and the pitch will vary.
@@MelodeonTunes Thanks. Very informative. As always. Your videos are a brilliant resource which will no doubt be useful to box enthusiasts in 2060 when we are dead and gone.
Lester. How do we know the beat rates for each note on say a Hohner pokerwork with two reeds per note? Is this charted in that Dirk tuner on your pc? What mini tuner are you using? Is it a Petersen? Which would you advise to get? Thank you for sharing. I am going to have a go as this is just so interesting. Peter
I have derived some beating lists for various wetness of tuning from Hohner (wet) to Castagnari (dry) link below. The phone tuner I use is the Peterson StroboSoft. drive.google.com/file/d/1FrKxs7d_-VcsTpc8qaYLh6qNangOamvc/view?usp=share_link
@@Izakokomarixyz I have never tried using a file to flatten reeds so can't comment on that. When filing reeds I always try to move the file perpendicular to the reed rather than across the reed.
@@MelodeonTunes We are very lucky to be able to learn this valuable information from a master like you. thank you for all of the videos you shares with us. Thank you also for your kindness.
আজকের খোকার খেলনা এগুলো দেখবেন! পাইস হোটেলের শিক কাবাব খাবেন, তৈরী করা দেখবেন । মাঝে মাঝে আমার একোর্ডিয়নের স্বাস্থ্যর সাথে সাযুজ্য খুঁজবেন । বাঙালির স্যুর রিয়ালিস্ট হবার স্বপ্ন পূরণ হবে।
It's always great when a true expert shares his knowledge.
In the old times many skills were closely guarded secrets.
Thank you for passing on your knowledge,
هنا النقطه المهمة التي فعلتها بجد عملك رائع مع تعير الااصوات ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
This is VERY VALUABLE information, thank you soo much!
Thank you so so so much for you kind videos
Very interesting. I've found that a very strong miniature rare-earth magnet, glued on to a stick as a handle, is useful to lift the reed and make a gap, before slipping the brass/bronze reed lifter under to hold it.
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15:17 Lol! Thanks a million, very helpful video!
Very good video!
Keep the videos coming goood stuff
Im very interesting to follow your work im in mauritius
“massive amount of daylight” hahaha, love it
What a great tutorial
Thank you
Классный аппарат для настройки.Обязательно сделаю себе такой.Спасибо за идею.
Spasibo
I am so glad this video exists. Just got my hands on two hold piano accordions and was struggling with understanding the process for tuning but this has really made it simple. Great video. I was wondering, do you have any tip for repairing bellows, whether it is possible to apply some sort of adhesive or filler to seal old leathers in the corners of each bellow. For air gaps or small pin holes. Also is the tape merely decorative or does this also tighten up the bellows air pressure? Really appreciate this video and the whole series and its been keeping me occupied during this difficult time.
This prompt may well get me to finish the Bellows Repair video that I have been going to do for months
That would be tremendously helpful, if you have any tips in the meantime i would really appreciate, love these videos and your little jokes every now and then!. Also would you have any recommendations for the cent differences to acheive a sound similar to this recording....th-cam.com/video/rGFnClH0E94/w-d-xo.html Im a realtively young folk musician from nottingham and ive got the accordions to beef up my songs bassically....
Thanks. Please can you tell me where can i buy the tunning table? Thanks
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have a question what running do you recommend on a gabbanelli three register box
The other advantage you kill a piano accordion. You are the best had me laughing
but , but why? lol
What happens if u take to much material off? Can u fix this somehow?
Estou aprendendo muito com seus videos amigo top
Thanks Lester, would you advise taking the reeds out for cleaning and tuning one at a time or replace them all in the block and then tune ? I've made my own bellows set up from a small u/s accordion from e bay for £9 ! Bargain.
I would remove then all at the same time as it makes cleaning the old wax off the block very much easier
@@MelodeonTunes Thanks for the reply but I meant should I put them all back in the block before tuning or try and tune them one at a time out of the block ? Thanks.
It is important that you tune them on the blocks as that is the environment in which they will be played. Tuning off the block will get the reed into the ballpark but when they are waxing in place on the block the tuning may/will change.
@@MelodeonTunes Thanks Lester. My first attempt at repairing so may be some time before I get it done, but I'll try and let you know how I get on. It's an 80 year old stradella accordion that I am working on. I have replaced all the felts, nightmare on the (72) bass side , so many rods , levers and springs etc ! lol
@@adrianpolley9419 Good luck
Haha, "Never tune drunk"! :D
Thank you, Lester. I don't have a method of air push/pull. Do you think a Air Mattress Pump Inflator Deflator has enough pressure ? Or do I need to look for an Air Table ?
Without seeing/playing with the device it is hard to tell. Really best to source an old piano accordion cheap off ebay and make a tuning table
I use an air matress pump but with a dimmer switch to control air speed
th-cam.com/video/F3awWsucwbM/w-d-xo.html
Lester,
I understand the excellent explanation on the mechanics of the tuning process, but need a further explanation in terms of how to utilize your tuning chart to tune the wet or “musette” reeds in my diatonic accordion after tuning the straight reeds. I don’t understand how to create the deviation of cents or beats based on the number values supplied by the chart, as they are unlabeled, except for ‘beatings’ and I cannot surmise with any certainty whether the chart represents the difference in reeds measured in beats per minute or cents or hertz.
Thank you, in advance.
For further clarification, I desire to use the Hohner set of values.
@@Bluegamebird The chart shows the offset for each reed so, for example, D4 Hohner shows 20 cents, I would therefore tune one reed to pitch and the tremolo reed to pitch + 20 cents, and so on for each pitch and its offset. The amount of cents offset decreases as the pitch rises to maintain a consistent beat frequency across the box.
Hope this helps
@@MelodeonTunes Perfect explanation, Thank You!
Hello, thank you for your video. What tuner do you have in your phone?
Regards
Nestor
I use Dirks Tuner on my PC and iStroboSoft on the phone
@@MelodeonTunes I just bought the phone tuner. I am quite interested in the Dirks tuner por pc. I leave you my whatsApp number +447450805756, maybe. You can inform me more.
Thank you and Regards
Néstor
Awesome video ! i could not see on your tuner HZ. DO YOU TUNE AT 442 HZ OR 443 HZ OR OTHER ?
A 440 standard concert pitch
Superb and fascinating video. Thank you. Two questions. 1. I don’t understand the physics. Why does scratching produce change in one direction whilst scraping the tip does the opposite? 2. Do you ever run out of reed to scrape or scratch away?
Filing the tip reduces the mass at the tip and thus increases the frequency of occilation, scraping the other end reduces the mass at fixed end for the opposite effect. Yes you can run out of metal, if you file the tip too much the end becomes too flexible and the pitch will vary.
@@MelodeonTunes Thanks. Very informative. As always. Your videos are a brilliant resource which will no doubt be useful to box enthusiasts in 2060 when we are dead and gone.
Awesome video would you know the tuning of a paolo soprani thanks.
Lester.
How do we know the beat rates for each note on say a Hohner pokerwork with two reeds per note?
Is this charted in that Dirk tuner on your pc?
What mini tuner are you using?
Is it a Petersen?
Which would you advise to get?
Thank you for sharing.
I am going to have a go as this is just so interesting.
Peter
I have derived some beating lists for various wetness of tuning from Hohner (wet) to Castagnari (dry) link below.
The phone tuner I use is the Peterson StroboSoft.
drive.google.com/file/d/1FrKxs7d_-VcsTpc8qaYLh6qNangOamvc/view?usp=share_link
Existe a book help to tuning accrodion?
15:12 win win situation, really
21:36
Just wondering were you find the tuning chart
Olá gostaria que tivesse como vc fazer um vídeo falando da mesa de afinaçao como construir uma parabens pelo trabalho 🖒
Já resolveu o problema da mesa?
Could you please share " how we can set the papers ?"... Can i iron the papers on the reeds ? or What we are going to use for glue ?
You don’t use the file for lowering pitch?
No I use a reed scratcher
Lester Bailey - Is it bad to use a
file to lower the pitch? Also, what motion should be made when filing reeds?
@@Izakokomarixyz I have never tried using a file to flatten reeds so can't comment on that. When filing reeds I always try to move the file perpendicular to the reed rather than across the reed.
Tune chart link is broken. If you dont mind, can you upload it again?
Sorted :)
@@MelodeonTunes oh thank you. you're so fast :) Actually i thought "weltmeister" was in this tune chart too :)
@@zekidemircioglu Weltmeister's are tuned to the same as Hohner
@@MelodeonTunes We are very lucky to be able to learn this valuable information from a master like you. thank you for all of the videos you shares with us. Thank you also for your kindness.
আজকের খোকার খেলনা
এগুলো দেখবেন! পাইস হোটেলের শিক কাবাব খাবেন, তৈরী করা দেখবেন । মাঝে মাঝে আমার একোর্ডিয়নের স্বাস্থ্যর সাথে সাযুজ্য খুঁজবেন । বাঙালির স্যুর রিয়ালিস্ট হবার স্বপ্ন পূরণ হবে।
What's the name of the application?
Peterson iStrobosoft www.petersontuners.com/products/istrobosoft/
анахронизм