It's amazing to me how people like John are so skilled, knowledgeable, and smart and yet they are willing to put all of their expertise right here for us to learn from. this video was so helpful. Thank you BFA!
Thank you so so so so much! I couldn't even sit on my bike for 30 seconds with feeling intense pain and after the adjustments I made (raising the handle bar on my stationary bike) following the advice from the video, I can finally use it!!! I'm very grateful for looking for this video!
I'm a brand new Biker - started 3 weeks ago on a mountain bike. My sitbones/arse hurt so badly that I found it very hard to cycle more than 20 km. I then bought the expensive gel-cushioned trouser and could do a 51 and 75 km ride. My arse still hurt but it is sooooo much better!!I agree with your advice to first look at other factors before changing the saddle - thank you from South Africa !!
Got to say this actually works! I wrote on another comment previously I won't ride my bike anymore because of the pain and after about 3-4 more times with the adjusted seat I can! It does also help that I bought a wider springier seat but still until I adjusted the height it was still hurting. Now I can ride for hours so thank you so much #Bike Fit Adviser !!!!!
This is by far the BEST setup info I have seen. 3 yrs biking, seldom comfortable until I followed every step suggested (even using my 24” level) to make correct adjustments. Thanks
Wow... you are so spot on.. Unfortunately I was talked into having my seat tilted down as much as 6mm. I ended up with, as you said all sorts of hand pressure problems. Now that my seat is back to flat, I am doing so much better.
All good, sound suggestions from a chap who clearly knows his stuff. Only thing I can add from 60 years of cycling is consider a Brooks saddle, especially if you are cycle touring or bike backing.
My butt hurt a lot when I started, I thought a bigger and cushioned seat would be better. I stuck it out, and weirdly, my tiny, and firm seat is now comfortable
This video and "4 Signs that your Saddle Discomfort has nothing to do with the saddle itself" were extremely helpful. I stumbled upon them because I was shopping for a new saddle. I was talking all sorts of smack about my 25 year old Vetta SL saddle because it was so uncomfortable. I knew I was onto something important when BFA started talking about hand pain . Yup, I had that too. I realized I was reaching too much. So I went out for a ride and I started weakling my body positioning. I engaged my core and it pulled my body weight back more over my sitting bones . My saddle immediately felt more comfortable. The pressure on my hands was dramatically reduced. The orientation of my hips , knees, and feet changed and I felt I was in a more powerful position. In this new position my seat suddenly felt too high. Next ride I'm going to try dropping it an inch. Thanks BFA! But I might buy a new Brooks B17 anyway!
Whoa wait up, after you explained how important it is to get the weight distribution between pedals and saddle right, you skipped ahead and started talking about saddles, without going into HOW to achieve the perfect weight distribution, but you say that's the most important thing so....
I’m so glad it’s not only me! You mention how important handlebar position is, yet you skip over the explanation of what it should be, very disappointed
Actually, the saddle profile and wing height do make a lot of difference. On the Sella Italia site, they pointed out how to test pelvic tilt and what saddle fits me. I used to buy a wave profile or a raised tail saddles but only to find out my pelvic requires either a flat or neutral profile. And wow, now it fits!
You need to break your bottom in slowly not do everything that everyone else is doing . You are sitting on what? Not your entire seat , you are sitting on your sit bones and that is a lot of weight on a very small patch of your Butt.
I was the same as you 3 weeks ago when I got my new GIANT Trance. I adjusted the seat height and angle in accordance to my sit bones and all is good now. Set the seat height to suit your body size.
i really like your approach and find your vids very helpful. Though, imho, this one is too vague. Please elaborate on the topic of the relation between saddle heigh/for-aft and handlebar position, regarding saddle discomfort and other symptoms. Thank you for sharing your knowledge
I came back to cycling 4 months ago, I have ridden bikes for many years but stopped for a few years. Of course my ass was sore the first several weeks. I wear bike shorts with padding and that is a big help, I tinker with the seat adjustments until it feels right for me, which also means comfortable. As I continue to ride, 5 times per week, up to 30 miles per ride, I find that changing up my position as I ride, not staying locked into just one static position can give me more duration on the bike as well as relief. l am a MTB rider and when in the woods much of my time is standing, that helps. My latest issue to deal with is the spin bike I have bought for the winter snow days and daily workouts. The seat is plusher than what I ride on my real bikes and butt soreness for my one hour a day spins has been minimal however……a hemorrhoid has appeared and created an issue that most of these videos don’t seem to mention. Life is full of challenges and no one says that staying fit is easy!!!
Very good advice. Sit bone width can be misleading. Borrowing a range of saddles is a great idea. Could have saved me a lot of money had I done this. It sure is a complex subject.
Would like some tips on following pts. pl. 1.should the seat be in level with the level of handle? 2. Are the leather seats good? my experience is they are too uncomfortable for long rides.3. Then which material is good for seat top? I have old Raleigh superb 26 and Roadster deluxe 28 in .
This video was very helpful and informative, thank you! I just bought my first bike and I’m very excited to start biking. The only problem with me is I have neck problems, so I’ll have to figure out how to adjust myself to where my neck isn’t hurting me.
I appreciate this; there are various steps and factors to consider; however, they are explained well. Is there a process that will, potentially, provide the a balanced distribution? Perhaps saddle position, relative to position of arms to handlebar, to pedals? Thanks
I agree with too much padding being bad. Years ago I tried a saddle with more padding and it hurt so bad. I immediately returned that thing. I like saddles with moderate cushion vs. those with heavy padding.
Just found your channel and LOVE IT! Thank you so much for the time you have put into all your vids. Learning so much from it. Had a bike fit a year ago but my current saddle basically collapsed (selle italia diva gel flow). Totally flexible now so changed to bontrager anja. But my sit bones feel so pronounced. Haven't changed anything else but will make sure the saddle is level and the reach is far enough. Where are you based? Would be great to actually visit!
I think this video ignores an important point, at least in my experience, which is that some ass pain is inevitable when starting out. Even with a good saddle position, it takes a couple of weeks of regular riding before you can endure long rides with no discomfort.
Just found your channel so much great information. I have a question I ride mountain bikes in a mostly upright position and have a lot of pain on my tailbone after riding is there a method or saddle to reduce pressure on the tail bone or coccyx thank you.
You can watch as many videos as you like about bike fit it took me over 2 years to get my fit right only after suffering hours and hours on the bike, now i can just jump on any bike and make it fit without anything in 2 minutes. one thing else i noticed that every few months i was getting lower on my bike and my reach was getting longer because my flexibility was increasing because of spending hours on the bike every week over the 2 years now i can even touch the floor with my knuckles with my legs straight in the standing position and hold it there for 1 minute.
Changed into slim tyres and cutout saddles recently. Speed has been fantastic, but now the slightest bump on the road seems to crush my pubic bones lol. Got myself some bike shorts with pads and will take your advice in adjusting the handlebars-pedal-saddle weight distribution. Thanks!
I don’t generally have a problem with saddle comfort but do feel like I am reaching for the aero bars when in that aggressive position. If I shorten that reach then I am also losing elbow position in the cups. That also results in my knees hitting my elbows, particularly when standing. Too many variables to figure out and hard to find a really good bike fitter.
Does rider weight matter when selecting a saddle? More or less cushion? Rail material? Any other factor? I have a custom made bike, selle italia gel slr max, getting post ride, tenderness in perineal area. I'm a heavy rider.
Julius Dizon Yes, rider weight will matter. How much "give" you should go for will depend on what saddle shape in general works best for you. For instance if you do well with a mildly curved profile (not selle SMP curved) but are a heavier rider, you might actually be able to get comfortable on some flatter saddles because your weight may curve the saddle. In that same vein, if you find a semi-curved profile that has a vert rigid structure to it, that has a chance of working too. I know this can get confusing because it definitely adds to the number of variables out there, but this is exactly why everyone should test drive a saddle before buying it.
I was hurting so much I could not ride 1 mile. Got a comfort seat and was able to ride with little to no pain still think I need to do more research on my bike adjustments to make sure I fix any and all issues
trying out different saddles or going for a bike fitting is a nogo for me because even though my arse does get quite sore, it takes a couple of hours of riding. I wish it would happen quickly so I know right away if the changes I make are for the better or not.
I went to a bike shop in our high street to buy a saddle. I like to support High street traders. The guy was reading a magazine. I said that I wanted a saddle for a touring bike I had been given. Did he have any & could he offer any advice. He pointed at one wall & said " there they are. Up on the wall mate" & carried on reading. I went & looked & then said " so what would you suggest for me". " It is up to you. Anything you fancy" Without even looking up from his mag. At that point I left. I bought a saddle on the internet. Not particularly comfortable but what choice did I have? If one does not have a local bike shop. Next nearest 50 miles apart from Halfords & one of those national bike stores that are part of a chain where there are just a load of kids serving. Different one every week. No means to try a saddle out. What does one do. I cannot afford to keep buying them until I get the right one.
I'm 300lbs. I'm luckily 6'1" with size 14 shoes so I don't look that terrible. I have a Trek Wahoo 29er (2012/3 it's the blue one) and I primarily ride paved tails and hard gavel chip tails. I swapped the hard, narrow saddle for a Bell from Walmart. I know, buys $700 bike, rides $15 saddle. I don't want to resort to a tractor seat but my rear hurts. The fleshy bits around/under my ischial tuberosities feel bruised. The narrow saddle hurt my perineal area. What do you recommend for someone that's my size? I don't know what to do. With this virus I can't get to my local shop. Part of the reason I swapped saddles is I was riding a backcountry trail, hit a thick branch, lost my footing and basically baseball slid whilst jamming the front of the seat into my prostate. I bent the saddle bars and likely the mount a little too as my current saddle is slightly off, but not really noticeable. Anyway, recommendations on a seat for a fat guy would be appreciated. I destroyed my knees snowboarding and I need to lose about a hundred pounds. Biking is about my only option. Please please please help...
You need the right seat My seat is too long wore thin shorts couldn’t ride again with it. Felt so much pain thought I had a uti😩trying different style seat. Can’t find good Cannondale shape with a bit of padding
Hi good stuff. What would you recommend for a forward crank cruiser type bike where you sit straight up? I ride hard and about 40-50 miles a day. Thank you Currently has the big padded seat which is terrible
I would like to ask, if set the saddle straight horizontally, I feel that there is a pressure at the groin area when I ride. I am riding a road bike. So what should I do?
What if we have a pretty aggressive position riding the bike? Shouldn’t we till the saddle nose down to match our pelvis angle relating to the position? Thanks before.
Nope, you shouldnt really need to tilt your seat much. As you lean forward, the saddle becomes thinner to match your pelvis becoming thinner. Im not an expert though, but he mentioned this in the video as well, and i know a downward tilt usually pushes your weight forward
So I feel like my issue with riding is the 1st part you talked about. I do arch my back a little when riding and it makes me sit weird but I'm also a big guy. Are there any seats you could suggest for me? No matter what I do after about an hour ride my ass is rashed and feels bruised lol. I'm currently using a bicycle for physical therapy so as I'm trying to make myself feel better its almost impossible cause of the seat. I can't even sit correctly on a couch now cause it hurts so bad lol.
Im 13 i got a 26 Zoll but im not so big when i get on the seat i cant touch the floor that's why i got my seat down and im a little bigger than others and my ass really hurts when i just sit on it but when i have my feet pushing the paddle it gets really better but still it hurts so much i dont know if i should get a New seat i mean im small and fat
Very helpful. Thanks. Going on from this theme, what considerations do you need to make when selecting a pair of cycling knicks? In my case, what would I need to look at for a pair if underliner shorts for mountain biking and doing some long distance (100km give or take) rail trail riding?
I've found that finding the right chamois material is really important -- I've had certain fabrics that just didn't play well. Also, and probably a bigger deal, is to make sure that the chamois actually covers the full width of your bony sitting structures. You'd be surprised at how many shorts don't once the rider is on the bike. I'm not a big person and I've had shorts where the chamois ends in the middle of my sit bones. A few manufacturers have begun to address this with multiple widths of padding -- Endura is one that comes to mind (but then for me, I didn't like the material in the padding). Make sure the shorts fit everywhere else too -- the longer we ride, the more we rely on the elastic on the legs to help keep the padding in place. Try chamois creams if you'd like - I don't have a favorite, there's a lot of decent ones out there. Lastly, stand up regularly. Pretty simple and kind of a no-brainer, but especially on mountain bikes (and certainly in rail trail situations) we can get lulled into sitting too much.
Okay, you told us what might be wrong. How do you fix it? For example, if my feet aren't far enough in front of me, exactly what would you do to change that? Just lower the seat? Raise it? Cut the bike in two and weld on longer bars? lol
what are your thoughts on switching to a folding bike from a comfort bike, where I sit up straighter and shift my weight backwards. i am shorter, have sciatica and carry a lot of weight near my middle. some comfort bikes work for me, others not--cause sciatica pain
Thank you for your videos. Do you have any quick suggestions for cruising bikes like the Lectric xp 2.0 - in regards to handlebar height? My hinden gets extremely sore when riding this... Although I am very new at riding pedal bikes. I was curious if leaning down more on the handlebars or raising the handlebars would be helpful. Thanks so much for any thoughts that you might have. Maybe I overlooked a video that you dealt with this already. Thanks again!
my hight is 5'11 inchs. but my cycle fram 26'' and body 18. if sit up for leg pain then start hand or wrist pain. what can I do sir? if u give me any like I will give u pic cycle and sit position. plz answer and help. thx
Hi there, I have glute pain and unable to find a right spot for pelvis to sit on the saddle. The pain is only on the left glute. Can you please advice?
Hi there, is specialized romin aa good choice for mtb and road should i level it as well or fallow specialized instructions and level the mid third part of the saddle?
nice vid.....what is the best way to level saddles with kicked tail like Antares and nago evo?? level it from front to back or just the front portion like manufacturers recommend?
Yes, generally I level them from the front, but if the rider has a slightly more upright torso, some do well with just the slightest amount of "nose up" position. It also may depend on where the saddle is clamped in the rails...if the saddle is slid all the way forward (so that the clamp of the seatpost is grabbing the back of the saddle rails, that saddle with preferentially flex nose down when it's weighted. In this case you might also need to start with it barely nose up so that it levels when you sit on it. The reverse is true if you have a saddle slid back further so that the clamp is grabbing the front of the saddle rails. Good luck!
Hello, I recently lowered by stem, by a spacer, probably a 5mm spacer. I have been experimenting with various positions of the saddle. Ranging from moving the saddle forward on the seat post and thereby being able to sit on the wider part of the saddle; to moving the seat back on the seat post. However, i still experience some sort of discomfort in the pelvic area. I am hoping for a more aero position by dropping my stem, do i simply sacrifice comfort for this aero position or should I look else where to solve my problem? Thanks.
+jj95east it's not always the case that in order to gain aerodynamics we have to trade comfort. But when a rider is at the end range for what their body can tolerate (due to trunk strength, flexibility issues, etc) going beyond that range to force an aerodynamic position will almost definitely result in saddle pain. If it's a position your body is capable of, then finding the right pelvic tilt on the right saddle matched to the right bar position can lead to comfort
I will never ever go back to an upright bike. Recumbents have a lot more choices in size, length, and speed or touring and always far more comfortable than any upright.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Isn't there quite a learning curve to riding a 'bent? One of the local bike shops has a couple in their showroom. I sat...or tried to sit on one and couldn't seem to get my feet under me (if that makes any sense). I feel like I would likely tip over before I got going fast enough to establish a balance. But they do look like a lot of fun to ride.
@@NJP76 The best way of getting used to something so different from a diamond frame bike is to sit up and don't try to get your feet on the pedal as you coast down a slight slope. You need to get the feel of the bent before you take the plunge and pedal. This of course assumes you are starting out with a recumbent not made for racing or high speed like a dual 26 or 700C wheeled high racer. The more upright you can sit ,is the better bent to learn on. It may take you 30 minutes before you get your feet up on the pedals and another 30 minutes to get some idea that you will not tip over. One of the major differences from DF to Bent is the grip on the handlebars . You need to feel the bars as if they were ripe bananas as that is how sensitive the steering is . You do not pull on the bars for transmitting as much power to the bike as you would on a DF. As there are so many different recumbents on the market I would need to know what you sat on as I have no trouble putting my feet flat on the ground with my Giro A 20 touring bent but no way can I put my feet flat on the ground with a racing bent. After you get used to the position of riding, you then get to work on acquiring your muscles to work slightly differently from what you are used to. Remembering to unclip before you stop and also being in a low gear when you stop ,prevents you from entertaining people on sidewalks and in cars. So yes there is a learning curve , but it really depends on what bent you have as some are easy peasy and others are for people who like to go fast all the time.These others are not recommended for beginners.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Oh man! Thank you so much for the in-depth reply. Very informative. I am not really interested in going super fast or racing. At my age I am in it more for the health benefits, and of course the joy of riding. What you say about learning the balance before peddling makes a lot of sense. As for clipping in/out, I don't use any kind of clips. Just a good pair of Specialized bicycle shoes. It looks like I am going to have to do a bit more research on recumbents to see just what I am going to be most comfortable learning on before taking that next step. I just learned that one of the local shops up here actually has a 'bent that they rent out by the day. That might be the place to start and see if a 'bent is really going to work for me. Of course now that winter is coming on (Wisconsin) it will likely be some months before the shop will be renting out bikes again. In the meantime, you have given me a lot to think about and consider as I start to develop more of an interest in recumbent riding. Anyways, thank you once again for this reply. Much appreciated.
@@NJP76 A word about clipping in and out , My feet are 21-34" off the ground when pedaling , and yes I could pedal without clips but as I tend to spin at 85-90 rpm my feet will fly off the pedals above 60 rpm. The clips are set to one step above minimum and I do little sprints up to 140 rpm and try to hold that for 30 seconds but rarely get past 13 seconds before the lungs start complaining . Some bents do not need your feet to be clipped in and some do. Having a foot come off the pedal can be destabilizing! Try to find a cheap recumbent on craigslist or in the paper and ride it till you get your bent legs ( same muscle group used slightly differently ) and get a feel for it . I am on my 9th bent now and if I was to buy another ,it would be used as I will modify it to what I want in comfort. Seats and handlebars are the only exotic parts as either road or mountain bike parts will fit. Once upon a time I tried a Bacchetta Cafe and rode for 20 minutes impressed with the bent , took some time and eventually bought it. First 45 mile ride was when reality set in as the seat was not as comfortable as I wanted for distance.. Short rides are fine but distance will tell you more. I picked up a seat frame from recycledrecumbent.com and comfort over distance was accomplished. I watched my beloved bent being ridden off by a thief one day and bought a Bacchetta Giro A 20 touring recumbent to replace my beloved bent. Sure enough replaced the seat and still comfortable after any ride .. Take your time and remember the first bent will not be your last as there is so much difference between these creatures.
Sorry to sound like a grump but I've watched a few of your videos and I feel like it's putting me off cycling. I'm a new cyclist and was looking for information to make my cycling more enjoyable however, your videos make it sound really complicated and sometimes impossible to achieve the objective. Surely there's a simpler way to get in the right position with more comfort? I'm sure all this information you're giving out is correct but there must be another way?
Hi , I hv bought a MTB last week and I am pretty happy with performance. It has 3x9 gears in combination. So my 1st ride was for 10Km 2nd 24KM and 6th ride was 60KM which is a big incrementing numbers for my kind of guy who never ride a Geared cycle ever before this long. So here is my question, I always have this tail bone pain if I ride for long, I have bought cycling shorts keeping in mind that it would gv me some comfort but still have kind of pain.Moreover, I have a gel seat cover over the saddle as well ,I guess i should remove and try with gel Cycling shots alone. But how do I get to know whether my saddle doesn't require to move forward or Backward as per my height i.e; 182CM . Could you please suggest me something on this so that I can ride comfortably as I know I have the potential to ride long just need a guidance.
I beg to differ. To the contrary there are in fact very uncomfortable bike saddles that should be replaced. He clearly hasn't ridden on a Bontrager Evoke 1.5!
People, how can you sit on such stiff saddles? Received my Canyon with Selle X3, it hurts just to sit on it. Even with 3 paddings it hurts..am i the only one complaining on it?
I have not rode a bike for a few years. I stop because end of my penis when numb and after 30 minutes of so the feeling came. Happen two days in a row. But been starting riding, but but concerned
One of those reasons I went to a recumbent bike so that I could ride as far as I want pain free and still be sitting in a comfortable seat at the end of 170 km. If you can get past peer pressure from your riding buddies , constant compliments from kids and just plain like to ride , this is an alternative. Come to the dark side and enjoy cycling pain free. BTW recumbents are banned from UCI events for a good reason. Aerodynamics.
On a normal bike your legs are hanging off the seat vertically breaking the wind whilst on a recumbent your feet are out front and that reduces the drag. Slicing through the air vs pushing it out of the way. Recumbents are, and are not expensive. Obsession bikes on the North Shore of Vancouver BC has a nice road bike for sale at 16,400.00 and yes it is light and has all the bling that will go on a bike of that price range, and without changing body position on either bike or bent I will coast down hills faster. Aerodynamics in play. Will he go faster on the flats or up hills , you bet he will but at the next stop sign he will be unable to put his foot down flat on the pavement and he will not be sitting comfortably on that narrow saddle after 160 km. Been there ,done it, on a regular bike before I got any recumbent. Top of the line recumbents do not get past 12 thousand unless you are doing something inside for some sort of record. If you buy a recumbent , buy used as the first one will set you up for the next one , a bit like N+1. I have bought a recumbent as low as 163.00 used and after my last touring recumbent was stolen ,I bought a Giro A 20 from Bacchetta for 2200.00 US plus exchange and tax and I put a different seat and shorter crank arms on it and suddenly I am at 3100.00 Speed and comfort , what more can you ask for? A Tour de France race bike is geared roughly 30-135+ gear inches and my touring bent is geared 16-104" and so far I have not met a hill that makes me get off and walk. However my bent is built for touring and it is the engine that makes the bike go up hills not the bike itself. Gear inches are defined here, www.sheldonbrown.com/gear-calc.html The next time you see some cyclists go by on the road keep an eye on them as there might be someone sitting upright with no hands on the bars shaking his hands to get the circulation back , relieve numbness and another one might stand to pedal for no apparent reason to relieve his sore bottom. I used to do that as well as I thought this is what you do. Now I sit comfortably and watch others do what I used to do.
I’m enjoying the bike so far th-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA My only real complaints are the brakes and the pedals. I feel like a bike designed for bigger people should have much larger pedals and more heavy duty brakes. I’ve only gotten two really good rides out of it, minimal downhill action, and the brakes feel like they’re already going out. A larger person has more momentum, so I think this wasn’t thought through very well. Also, I wear size 13-14 wide shoes. My feet cramp up on these pedals that are clearly made for smaller feet. Since I’m not a pro rider (and I don’t think many are who purchase this bike) I don’t think that the straps on the pedal are necessary at all. None of this takes away from the enjoyment I get from riding, however. I’ll just head to a bike shop to improve on a few things.
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Far and away the best bike fit channel. Very knowledgeable, clear, to the point and no silly gimmickry.
It's amazing to me how people like John are so skilled, knowledgeable, and smart and yet they are willing to put all of their expertise right here for us to learn from. this video was so helpful. Thank you BFA!
My butt hurts so bad after biking today
i got ed after biking for 5 hours a day for about 2 weeks!
@Kaleb Pedro why the fuck would i do that? lol yall need help
@Frank Rogelio noisy ass nigga
@@Saulele-le buy a wide seat
That’s why I’m here today my ass is on 🔥😩😩
solving a problem involves patient analysis and first principles. this seems exactly what you do in a calm step by step manner. thank you.
Thank you so so so so much! I couldn't even sit on my bike for 30 seconds with feeling intense pain and after the adjustments I made (raising the handle bar on my stationary bike) following the advice from the video, I can finally use it!!! I'm very grateful for looking for this video!
My butt was cramped from cycling. An older woman hit me on my butt, till it was better. 🥵🥵 What do you think ??
I'm a brand new Biker - started 3 weeks ago on a mountain bike. My sitbones/arse hurt so badly that I found it very hard to cycle more than 20 km. I then bought the expensive gel-cushioned trouser and could do a 51 and 75 km ride. My arse still hurt but it is sooooo much better!!I agree with your advice to first look at other factors before changing the saddle - thank you from South Africa !!
Got to say this actually works! I wrote on another comment previously I won't ride my bike anymore because of the pain and after about 3-4 more times with the adjusted seat I can! It does also help that I bought a wider springier seat but still until I adjusted the height it was still hurting. Now I can ride for hours so thank you so much #Bike Fit Adviser !!!!!
What did u adjust? Forward aft?
I was waiting for a comment on seat position forward or back. Odd it wasn't discussed in relation to reach.
This is by far the BEST setup info I have seen. 3 yrs biking, seldom comfortable until I followed every step suggested (even using my 24” level) to make correct adjustments. Thanks
Wow... you are so spot on.. Unfortunately I was talked into having my seat tilted down as much as 6mm. I ended up with, as you said all sorts of hand pressure problems. Now that my seat is back to flat, I am doing so much better.
All good, sound suggestions from a chap who clearly knows his stuff. Only thing I can add from 60 years of cycling is consider a Brooks saddle, especially if you are cycle touring or bike backing.
My butt hurt a lot when I started, I thought a bigger and cushioned seat would be better. I stuck it out, and weirdly, my tiny, and firm seat is now comfortable
I could not ride for 5 minutes. I adjusted accordingly and just did a 60 minute ride. I am sooo grateful!!!
What did u adjust?
This video and "4 Signs that your Saddle Discomfort has nothing to do with the saddle itself" were extremely helpful. I stumbled upon them because I was shopping for a new saddle. I was talking all sorts of smack about my 25 year old Vetta SL saddle because it was so uncomfortable. I knew I was onto something important when BFA started talking about hand pain . Yup, I had that too. I realized I was reaching too much. So I went out for a ride and I started weakling my body positioning. I engaged my core and it pulled my body weight back more over my sitting bones . My saddle immediately felt more comfortable. The pressure on my hands was dramatically reduced. The orientation of my hips , knees, and feet changed and I felt I was in a more powerful position. In this new position my seat suddenly felt too high. Next ride I'm going to try dropping it an inch. Thanks BFA! But I might buy a new Brooks B17 anyway!
* tweaking my body positioning
Whoa wait up, after you explained how important it is to get the weight distribution between pedals and saddle right, you skipped ahead and started talking about saddles, without going into HOW to achieve the perfect weight distribution, but you say that's the most important thing so....
I’m so glad it’s not only me! You mention how important handlebar position is, yet you skip over the explanation of what it should be, very disappointed
Actually, the saddle profile and wing height do make a lot of difference. On the Sella Italia site, they pointed out how to test pelvic tilt and what saddle fits me. I used to buy a wave profile or a raised tail saddles but only to find out my pelvic requires either a flat or neutral profile. And wow, now it fits!
I think you really know what you’re talking about and your advices seem correct, I will use them to fit my new gravel bike, thank you.
i just got my mountain bike yesterday and omg i cant even go ride today because my arse is in pain lol
Litterally same only i got mine today
me too
You need to break your bottom in slowly not do everything that everyone else is doing . You are sitting on what? Not your entire seat , you are sitting on your sit bones and that is a lot of weight on a very small patch of your Butt.
I was the same as you 3 weeks ago when I got my new GIANT Trance. I adjusted the seat height and angle in accordance to my sit bones and all is good now. Set the seat height to suit your body size.
Me too
i really like your approach and find your vids very helpful. Though, imho, this one is too vague. Please elaborate on the topic of the relation between saddle heigh/for-aft and handlebar position, regarding saddle discomfort and other symptoms. Thank you for sharing your knowledge
I came back to cycling 4 months ago, I have ridden bikes for many years but stopped for a few years. Of course my ass was sore the first several weeks. I wear bike shorts with padding and that is a big help, I tinker with the seat adjustments until it feels right for me, which also means comfortable. As I continue to ride, 5 times per week, up to 30 miles per ride, I find that changing up my position as I ride, not staying locked into just one static position can give me more duration on the bike as well as relief. l am a MTB rider and when in the woods much of my time is standing, that helps.
My latest issue to deal with is the spin bike I have bought for the winter snow days and daily workouts. The seat is plusher than what I ride on my real bikes and butt soreness for my one hour a day spins has been minimal however……a hemorrhoid has appeared and created an issue that most of these videos don’t seem to mention. Life is full of challenges and no one says that staying fit is easy!!!
Very good advice. Sit bone width can be misleading. Borrowing a range of saddles is a great idea. Could have saved me a lot of money had I done this. It sure is a complex subject.
Would like some tips on following pts. pl. 1.should the seat be in level with the level of handle? 2. Are the leather seats good? my experience is they are too uncomfortable for long rides.3. Then which material is good for seat top? I have old Raleigh superb 26 and Roadster deluxe 28 in .
This video was very helpful and informative, thank you! I just bought my first bike and I’m very excited to start biking. The only problem with me is I have neck problems, so I’ll have to figure out how to adjust myself to where my neck isn’t hurting me.
Can you recommend a saddle seat for women
I appreciate this; there are various steps and factors to consider; however, they are explained well. Is there a process that will, potentially, provide the a balanced distribution? Perhaps saddle position, relative to position of arms to handlebar, to pedals? Thanks
Precious information if you are a beginner
I agree with too much padding being bad. Years ago I tried a saddle with more padding and it hurt so bad. I immediately returned that thing. I like saddles with moderate cushion vs. those with heavy padding.
Just found your channel and LOVE IT! Thank you so much for the time you have put into all your vids. Learning so much from it. Had a bike fit a year ago but my current saddle basically collapsed (selle italia diva gel flow). Totally flexible now so changed to bontrager anja. But my sit bones feel so pronounced. Haven't changed anything else but will make sure the saddle is level and the reach is far enough. Where are you based? Would be great to actually visit!
Wow I found you here 😊. I love your channel too.
Can we have video explaining how to adjust these other things before buying new saddle.thank you
I think this video ignores an important point, at least in my experience, which is that some ass pain is inevitable when starting out. Even with a good saddle position, it takes a couple of weeks of regular riding before you can endure long rides with no discomfort.
Years*
Best tips I see for sadle fitting. Thanks 😊
Watching this during quarantine because my new indoor bike is hurting my bum😭
Just found your channel so much great information. I have a question I ride mountain bikes in a mostly upright position and have a lot of pain on my tailbone after riding is there a method or saddle to reduce pressure on the tail bone or coccyx thank you.
V good analysis and scientifically helpful..thanks
You can watch as many videos as you like about bike fit it took me over 2 years to get my fit right only after suffering hours and hours on the bike, now i can just jump on any bike and make it fit without anything in 2 minutes. one thing else i noticed that every few months i was getting lower on my bike and my reach was getting longer because my flexibility was increasing because of spending hours on the bike every week over the 2 years now i can even touch the floor with my knuckles with my legs straight in the standing position and hold it there for 1 minute.
Fantastic advice thank you!
Changed into slim tyres and cutout saddles recently. Speed has been fantastic, but now the slightest bump on the road seems to crush my pubic bones lol. Got myself some bike shorts with pads and will take your advice in adjusting the handlebars-pedal-saddle weight distribution. Thanks!
That’s why I love beach cruiser
I don’t generally have a problem with saddle comfort but do feel like I am reaching for the aero bars when in that aggressive position. If I shorten that reach then I am also losing elbow position in the cups. That also results in my knees hitting my elbows, particularly when standing. Too many variables to figure out and hard to find a really good bike fitter.
Really good. Very helpful and informative. Thanks!!!
Does rider weight matter when selecting a saddle? More or less cushion? Rail material? Any other factor? I have a custom made bike, selle italia gel slr max, getting post ride, tenderness in perineal area. I'm a heavy rider.
Julius Dizon Yes, rider weight will matter. How much "give" you should go for will depend on what saddle shape in general works best for you. For instance if you do well with a mildly curved profile (not selle SMP curved) but are a heavier rider, you might actually be able to get comfortable on some flatter saddles because your weight may curve the saddle. In that same vein, if you find a semi-curved profile that has a vert rigid structure to it, that has a chance of working too.
I know this can get confusing because it definitely adds to the number of variables out there, but this is exactly why everyone should test drive a saddle before buying it.
I was hurting so much I could not ride 1 mile. Got a comfort seat and was able to ride with little to no pain still think I need to do more research on my bike adjustments to make sure I fix any and all issues
trying out different saddles or going for a bike fitting is a nogo for me because even though my arse does get quite sore, it takes a couple of hours of riding. I wish it would happen quickly so I know right away if the changes I make are for the better or not.
I went to a bike shop in our high street to buy a saddle. I like to support High street traders. The guy was reading a magazine. I said that I wanted a saddle for a touring bike I had been given. Did he have any & could he offer any advice. He pointed at one wall & said " there they are. Up on the wall mate" & carried on reading. I went & looked & then said " so what would you suggest for me". " It is up to you. Anything you fancy" Without even looking up from his mag.
At that point I left. I bought a saddle on the internet. Not particularly comfortable but what choice did I have? If one does not have a local bike shop. Next nearest 50 miles apart from Halfords & one of those national bike stores that are part of a chain where there are just a load of kids serving. Different one every week. No means to try a saddle out. What does one do. I cannot afford to keep buying them until I get the right one.
I'm 300lbs. I'm luckily 6'1" with size 14 shoes so I don't look that terrible. I have a Trek Wahoo 29er (2012/3 it's the blue one) and I primarily ride paved tails and hard gavel chip tails. I swapped the hard, narrow saddle for a Bell from Walmart. I know, buys $700 bike, rides $15 saddle. I don't want to resort to a tractor seat but my rear hurts. The fleshy bits around/under my ischial tuberosities feel bruised. The narrow saddle hurt my perineal area. What do you recommend for someone that's my size? I don't know what to do. With this virus I can't get to my local shop. Part of the reason I swapped saddles is I was riding a backcountry trail, hit a thick branch, lost my footing and basically baseball slid whilst jamming the front of the seat into my prostate. I bent the saddle bars and likely the mount a little too as my current saddle is slightly off, but not really noticeable.
Anyway, recommendations on a seat for a fat guy would be appreciated. I destroyed my knees snowboarding and I need to lose about a hundred pounds. Biking is about my only option. Please please please help...
Such a great explanation!
You need the right seat My seat is too long wore thin shorts couldn’t ride again with it. Felt so much pain thought I had a uti😩trying different style seat. Can’t find good Cannondale shape with a bit of padding
My butt was cramped from cycling. An older woman clapped me on my butt till it was better 🥵🥶🥵 What do you think ??
Hi good stuff. What would you recommend for a forward crank cruiser type bike where you sit straight up? I ride hard and about 40-50 miles a day. Thank you
Currently has the big padded seat which is terrible
just learned how to ride a bike today, and it hurts so badly.
Me too
This was really insightful! Thank you!!!
I would like to ask, if set the saddle straight horizontally, I feel that there is a pressure at the groin area when I ride. I am riding a road bike. So what should I do?
What if we have a pretty aggressive position riding the bike? Shouldn’t we till the saddle nose down to match our pelvis angle relating to the position? Thanks before.
Nope, you shouldnt really need to tilt your seat much. As you lean forward, the saddle becomes thinner to match your pelvis becoming thinner. Im not an expert though, but he mentioned this in the video as well, and i know a downward tilt usually pushes your weight forward
Hes right, and I'm reaping the benefits!
Is all the bike fit stuff apply to MTB too?
Excellent. Thanks.
can you make video for Saddle height for MTB? your are video really easy to catchy
Very informative
So I feel like my issue with riding is the 1st part you talked about. I do arch my back a little when riding and it makes me sit weird but I'm also a big guy. Are there any seats you could suggest for me? No matter what I do after about an hour ride my ass is rashed and feels bruised lol. I'm currently using a bicycle for physical therapy so as I'm trying to make myself feel better its almost impossible cause of the seat. I can't even sit correctly on a couch now cause it hurts so bad lol.
Im 13 i got a 26 Zoll but im not so big when i get on the seat i cant touch the floor that's why i got my seat down and im a little bigger than others and my ass really hurts when i just sit on it but when i have my feet pushing the paddle it gets really better but still it hurts so much i dont know if i should get a New seat i mean im small and fat
Very helpful. Thanks. Going on from this theme, what considerations do you need to make when selecting a pair of cycling knicks? In my case, what would I need to look at for a pair if underliner shorts for mountain biking and doing some long distance (100km give or take) rail trail riding?
I've found that finding the right chamois material is really important -- I've had certain fabrics that just didn't play well.
Also, and probably a bigger deal, is to make sure that the chamois actually covers the full width of your bony sitting structures. You'd be surprised at how many shorts don't once the rider is on the bike. I'm not a big person and I've had shorts where the chamois ends in the middle of my sit bones.
A few manufacturers have begun to address this with multiple widths of padding -- Endura is one that comes to mind (but then for me, I didn't like the material in the padding).
Make sure the shorts fit everywhere else too -- the longer we ride, the more we rely on the elastic on the legs to help keep the padding in place.
Try chamois creams if you'd like - I don't have a favorite, there's a lot of decent ones out there.
Lastly, stand up regularly. Pretty simple and kind of a no-brainer, but especially on mountain bikes (and certainly in rail trail situations) we can get lulled into sitting too much.
Many Thanks sir I ride my bike for 3 days straight and my ass are in pain! Now i have a clue
Okay, you told us what might be wrong. How do you fix it? For example, if my feet aren't far enough in front of me, exactly what would you do to change that? Just lower the seat? Raise it? Cut the bike in two and weld on longer bars? lol
The exact problem I have! I mean I understand what he's saying but how am I supposed to fix it? Haha
what are your thoughts on switching to a folding bike from a comfort bike, where I sit up straighter and shift my weight backwards. i am shorter, have sciatica and carry a lot of weight near my middle. some comfort bikes work for me, others not--cause sciatica pain
Use same bike indoors and out ... I only get saddle discomfort if I’m indoors cycling
Do you have a spacer under the front wheel to get it level when it is hooked up to the indoor trainer?
Thank you for your videos. Do you have any quick suggestions for cruising bikes like the Lectric xp 2.0 - in regards to handlebar height? My hinden gets extremely sore when riding this... Although I am very new at riding pedal bikes. I was curious if leaning down more on the handlebars or raising the handlebars would be helpful. Thanks so much for any thoughts that you might have. Maybe I overlooked a video that you dealt with this already. Thanks again!
I got a new softer seat the other day and it still hurts while riding . Idk what to do
I'm an amateur and this went right over my head! Lol 😅🤔
my hight is 5'11 inchs. but my cycle fram 26'' and body 18. if sit up for leg pain then start hand or wrist pain. what can I do sir? if u give me any like I will give u pic cycle and sit position. plz answer and help. thx
Thanks for all the great advice about fixing my pain I use a assomitor but only at work
I'm 6'2 260lbs and can't find a good saddle. I have a 29 inch mountain bike. What do you recommend? Can you send me links to some please
Hi there, I have glute pain and unable to find a right spot for pelvis to sit on the saddle. The pain is only on the left glute. Can you please advice?
Hi there, is specialized romin aa good choice for mtb and road should i level it as well or fallow specialized instructions and level the mid third part of the saddle?
i know its an old video but what about tt position? especially for triathlon where saddle is much more forward
nice vid.....what is the best way to level saddles with kicked tail like Antares and nago evo?? level it from front to back or just the front portion like manufacturers recommend?
Yes, generally I level them from the front, but if the rider has a slightly more upright torso, some do well with just the slightest amount of "nose up" position.
It also may depend on where the saddle is clamped in the rails...if the saddle is slid all the way forward (so that the clamp of the seatpost is grabbing the back of the saddle rails, that saddle with preferentially flex nose down when it's weighted. In this case you might also need to start with it barely nose up so that it levels when you sit on it.
The reverse is true if you have a saddle slid back further so that the clamp is grabbing the front of the saddle rails. Good luck!
thx!
when you says slighest bit of nose up...do mean a degree or 2...or more like .5?
Like a degree or less most of the time
k thx....keep up the good work
Hello, I recently lowered by stem, by a spacer, probably a 5mm spacer. I have been experimenting with various positions of the saddle. Ranging from moving the saddle forward on the seat post and thereby being able to sit on the wider part of the saddle; to moving the seat back on the seat post. However, i still experience some sort of discomfort in the pelvic area. I am hoping for a more aero position by dropping my stem, do i simply sacrifice comfort for this aero position or should I look else where to solve my problem? Thanks.
+jj95east it's not always the case that in order to gain aerodynamics we have to trade comfort. But when a rider is at the end range for what their body can tolerate (due to trunk strength, flexibility issues, etc) going beyond that range to force an aerodynamic position will almost definitely result in saddle pain. If it's a position your body is capable of, then finding the right pelvic tilt on the right saddle matched to the right bar position can lead to comfort
This is convincing me more that I should get a recumbent
I will never ever go back to an upright bike. Recumbents have a lot more choices in size, length, and speed or touring and always far more comfortable than any upright.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Isn't there quite a learning curve to riding a 'bent? One of the local bike shops has a couple in their showroom. I sat...or tried to sit on one and couldn't seem to get my feet under me (if that makes any sense). I feel like I would likely tip over before I got going fast enough to establish a balance. But they do look like a lot of fun to ride.
@@NJP76 The best way of getting used to something so different from a diamond frame bike is to sit up and don't try to get your feet on the pedal as you coast down a slight slope. You need to get the feel of the bent before you take the plunge and pedal. This of course assumes you are starting out with a recumbent not made for racing or high speed like a dual 26 or 700C wheeled high racer. The more upright you can sit ,is the better bent to learn on. It may take you 30 minutes before you get your feet up on the pedals and another 30 minutes to get some idea that you will not tip over. One of the major differences from DF to Bent is the grip on the handlebars . You need to feel the bars as if they were ripe bananas as that is how sensitive the steering is . You do not pull on the bars for transmitting as much power to the bike as you would on a DF. As there are so many different recumbents on the market I would need to know what you sat on as I have no trouble putting my feet flat on the ground with my Giro A 20 touring bent but no way can I put my feet flat on the ground with a racing bent. After you get used to the position of riding, you then get to work on acquiring your muscles to work slightly differently from what you are used to. Remembering to unclip before you stop and also being in a low gear when you stop ,prevents you from entertaining people on sidewalks and in cars.
So yes there is a learning curve , but it really depends on what bent you have as some are easy peasy and others are for people who like to go fast all the time.These others are not recommended for beginners.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Oh man! Thank you so much for the in-depth reply. Very informative. I am not really interested in going super fast or racing. At my age I am in it more for the health benefits, and of course the joy of riding. What you say about learning the balance before peddling makes a lot of sense. As for clipping in/out, I don't use any kind of clips. Just a good pair of Specialized bicycle shoes.
It looks like I am going to have to do a bit more research on recumbents to see just what I am going to be most comfortable learning on before taking that next step. I just learned that one of the local shops up here actually has a 'bent that they rent out by the day. That might be the place to start and see if a 'bent is really going to work for me. Of course now that winter is coming on (Wisconsin) it will likely be some months before the shop will be renting out bikes again. In the meantime, you have given me a lot to think about and consider as I start to develop more of an interest in recumbent riding.
Anyways, thank you once again for this reply. Much appreciated.
@@NJP76 A word about clipping in and out , My feet are 21-34" off the ground when pedaling , and yes I could pedal without clips but as I tend to spin at 85-90 rpm my feet will fly off the pedals above 60 rpm. The clips are set to one step above minimum and I do little sprints up to 140 rpm and try to hold that for 30 seconds but rarely get past 13 seconds before the lungs start complaining . Some bents do not need your feet to be clipped in and some do. Having a foot come off the pedal can be destabilizing! Try to find a cheap recumbent on craigslist or in the paper and ride it till you get your bent legs ( same muscle group used slightly differently ) and get a feel for it . I am on my 9th bent now and if I was to buy another ,it would be used as I will modify it to what I want in comfort. Seats and handlebars are the only exotic parts as either road or mountain bike parts will fit. Once upon a time I tried a Bacchetta Cafe and rode for 20 minutes impressed with the bent , took some time and eventually bought it. First 45 mile ride was when reality set in as the seat was not as comfortable as I wanted for distance.. Short rides are fine but distance will tell you more. I picked up a seat frame from recycledrecumbent.com and comfort over distance was accomplished. I watched my beloved bent being ridden off by a thief one day and bought a Bacchetta Giro A 20 touring recumbent to replace my beloved bent. Sure enough replaced the seat and still comfortable after any ride .. Take your time and remember the first bent will not be your last as there is so much difference between these creatures.
If your upper body is heavy get a wider cushion seat boom that fix my bs ..
Any experience with the Infinity Bike seat which is a more radical open design?
+Joel Berman no direct experience, but I'd be interested in testing one out. I'll see if maybe they're interested in sending a demo...
i really hurt ,my butt biking,skin is pinched,on both sides,hard too sit.i was wearing jeans.
What about seat height?
Sorry to sound like a grump but I've watched a few of your videos and I feel like it's putting me off cycling. I'm a new cyclist and was looking for information to make my cycling more enjoyable however, your videos make it sound really complicated and sometimes impossible to achieve the objective. Surely there's a simpler way to get in the right position with more comfort? I'm sure all this information you're giving out is correct but there must be another way?
Take your bike to a bike shop and have them help you adjust everything so that you’re positioned correctly
I encounter back pain please help
Hi , I hv bought a MTB last week and I am pretty happy with performance. It has 3x9 gears in combination. So my 1st ride was for 10Km 2nd 24KM and 6th ride was 60KM which is a big incrementing numbers for my kind of guy who never ride a Geared cycle ever before this long.
So here is my question, I always have this tail bone pain if I ride for long, I have bought cycling shorts keeping in mind that it would gv me some comfort but still have kind of pain.Moreover, I have a gel seat cover over the saddle as well ,I guess i should remove and try with gel Cycling shots alone. But how do I get to know whether my saddle doesn't require to move forward or Backward as per my height i.e; 182CM . Could you please suggest me something on this so that I can ride comfortably as I know I have the potential to ride long just need a guidance.
Thanks very informative 👍🇬🇧
What if you get a sharp pain in one buttock but not the other? What does that say about your saddle/positioning?
Same. I'm getting pain/sprain only in my left ischium if that's what u call it.
Wonderful info.. I have riding for a while, but I stand wiser today :)
Why can't the industry design a safe saddle and evolve standards?
Interesting but didn’t tell us how to solve some of the problems.
Exactly!
Laconic please
I beg to differ. To the contrary there are in fact very uncomfortable bike saddles that should be replaced. He clearly hasn't ridden on a Bontrager Evoke 1.5!
But what about protecting your junk from actual damage/ED?
Get on with it !!!
This is good stuff I’m a woman and I want to ride very very much but the saddle is super important for real 😳
be sure to get a Cloud 9 seat :)
People, how can you sit on such stiff saddles? Received my Canyon with Selle X3, it hurts just to sit on it. Even with 3 paddings it hurts..am i the only one complaining on it?
happens to me too
I have not rode a bike for a few years. I stop because end of my penis when numb and after 30 minutes of so the feeling came. Happen two days in a row. But been starting riding, but but concerned
One of those reasons I went to a recumbent bike so that I could ride as far as I want pain free and still be sitting in a comfortable seat at the end of 170 km. If you can get past peer pressure from your riding buddies , constant compliments from kids and just plain like to ride , this is an alternative. Come to the dark side and enjoy cycling pain free. BTW recumbents are banned from UCI events for a good reason. Aerodynamics.
Recumbents are more aerodynamic?
Are recumbents more expensive? I guess they are geared so you can tackle hills well? I'm a newbie.
On a normal bike your legs are hanging off the seat vertically breaking the wind whilst on a recumbent your feet are out front and that reduces the drag. Slicing through the air vs pushing it out of the way.
Recumbents are, and are not expensive. Obsession bikes on the North Shore of Vancouver BC has a nice road bike for sale at 16,400.00 and yes it is light and has all the bling that will go on a bike of that price range, and without changing body position on either bike or bent I will coast down hills faster. Aerodynamics in play. Will he go faster on the flats or up hills , you bet he will but at the next stop sign he will be unable to put his foot down flat on the pavement and he will not be sitting comfortably on that narrow saddle after 160 km. Been there ,done it, on a regular bike before I got any recumbent. Top of the line recumbents do not get past 12 thousand unless you are doing something inside for some sort of record. If you buy a recumbent , buy used as the first one will set you up for the next one , a bit like N+1. I have bought a recumbent as low as 163.00 used and after my last touring recumbent was stolen ,I bought a Giro A 20 from Bacchetta for 2200.00 US plus exchange and tax and I put a different seat and shorter crank arms on it and suddenly I am at 3100.00 Speed and comfort , what more can you ask for?
A Tour de France race bike is geared roughly 30-135+ gear inches and my touring bent is geared 16-104" and so far I have not met a hill that makes me get off and walk. However my bent is built for touring and it is the engine that makes the bike go up hills not the bike itself. Gear inches are defined here, www.sheldonbrown.com/gear-calc.html The next time you see some cyclists go by on the road keep an eye on them as there might be someone sitting upright with no hands on the bars shaking his hands to get the circulation back , relieve numbness and another one might stand to pedal for no apparent reason to relieve his sore bottom. I used to do that as well as I thought this is what you do. Now I sit comfortably and watch others do what I used to do.
Thanks, Bruce, for the very informative reply, including gear inches, as I was thinking "what's that mean", lol.
6:00 whom the fuck you killed dude to show us that skeleton skeletron?
I’m enjoying the bike so far th-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA My only real complaints are the brakes and the pedals. I feel like a bike designed for bigger people should have much larger pedals and more heavy duty brakes. I’ve only gotten two really good rides out of it, minimal downhill action, and the brakes feel like they’re already going out. A larger person has more momentum, so I think this wasn’t thought through very well. Also, I wear size 13-14 wide shoes. My feet cramp up on these pedals that are clearly made for smaller feet. Since I’m not a pro rider (and I don’t think many are who purchase this bike) I don’t think that the straps on the pedal are necessary at all. None of this takes away from the enjoyment I get from riding, however. I’ll just head to a bike shop to improve on a few things.
Oh yeah I have Wilier's laying around all over the place lol.
Excellent!