I really liked the story told this way! It reminds me of my training days where my peers would pretend to understand what the facilitators were saying (to stay safe) and I genuinely felt dismay that I was so lost by comparison. Keeping my role as the "smartest" in the group (also to stay safe) kept me silent - until the day I found out the truth from an amused facilitator. In learning the lesson I became the person who would ask questions, and I kept realising over and over how often they were questions the whole room was wondering. These days I seem to carry the energy that allows others to feel comfortable enough to do this too. It's a relief. I never claimed to know everything or even to be the best for the job - I was the one who stepped up to protect others even when I thought I wasn't capable of surviving.
New subscriber! 👋 This interesting edition of an old story could be good for me as a possibly autistic older woman finally considering unmasking, trying to embrace the weirdo within. I learnt quite young to go along with the crowd for fear of ridicule and bullying for being different and odd. I studied 'normal' people and society and bent myself to fit in, to conform, but never felt quite right, and nowhere near good enough. Now I'm ageing, my IDGAF levels are increasing... 😂 But my compassion and empathy for others, which I have always felt at overwhelming levels, is now my superpower. We must embrace our childlike logic and care for others.
Oh, I love this!! Huge congratulations on this change (or maybe this return/homecoming?) Either way, it’s great. Thanks for commenting, and for following 🖤
Something tells me that in most of the cases during history, the child would've been shunned and even punished for speaking the truth. I know I was quite a few times... I do hope this trend will stop some day...
Wow. I’m in a moment of big transition, from a career that did not allow me to be …whole or happy, to one that requires me to be everything I truly am. In the lead-up, my competence, reputation, even mental state, have been called into question by a covert workplace bully (in my old workplace). One of my core values is compassion, but I’ve found it really hard to know how to have compassion for the bully. Now I can see how much effort she has put into building a persona, simply because - like the rest of us - she just wants to be accepted and respected. That persona is everything to her now and has required that she deny some of the very creativity and passion that my choices are enacting. That must be really painful. I won’t accept the behaviour, but now I can have compassion for her.
This just gave me goosebumps. What an amazing perspective to take. I have huge respect for this. And good luck in the new job!! It sounds like an excellent change 🖤
“Don’t be overheard complaining…Not even to yourself.” - Marcus Aurelius "The brighter the light the darker the shadow" - Carl Jung The world which I quietly have observed is so full of complaining, deceivement, and faking that I do not need to add to it by spilling out my deepest darkest experiences, especially if they don't have any value to people other than myself. The world indeed needs more sharing and that I love to do, if I find it uplifting for myself and to others. I am not lying about me having gone to the depths of the human psyche through deepened states of mind and being. And what did I learn? Choose love, everytime, even if it appears as longing or misery. Because too few do so and the spark of light from which all of us are borne shines more brightly when it is united.
Betwixt has actually helped me tremendously with this very monster. Growing up in some very unhealthy family circumstances, I was cast in the roles of scapegoat and fool. My takeaway from hearing this story at age 8 or so was that people shouldn't get above themselves, or they'd exposed and ridiculed, and they'd deserve it. At home, the narrative about me was that I could never be part of the in-group. I wallowed incorrigibly in intolerable hubris, pretending to be competent when I wasn't, savvy when I wasn't, normal when I wasn't. My constant attempts to prove that I was worthy were what earned being tricked and laughed at. What's obvious to me now of course is, that if an 8 year old hears that story and it confirms that presumption of one's value and worthiness of inclusion is offensive, and that insecure hypervigilance is the best way to shield against the contempt of both family and society...well, it's not the child that's failing the tribe, obviously. The game has helped me to really feel that insight in more immediate daily way. I really enjoy it.
@@weaviejeebies Oh my goodness! I’m so, so thrilled to read this (though not of the hugely challenging childhood experiences, of course). I’m really glad Betwixt could help you make sense of this and disentangle yourself from the old narrative. Well done!
I'm not sure if it's because I'm on the autism spectrum, but I never had a problem exposing my own ignorance because I realized from an early age that admitting I didn't know something could create an opportunity to learn something new from other people. When I admit out loud to other people that I don't know much about a certain topic, the reactions vary from agreement from those who share my circumstance, to mocking (often from people who also don't know but are still trying to keep the facade of knowledge), to praise for having the courage and the humility to admit that I don't know something. But, to me, it never feels like I am being brave, it just feels like I'm being curious. I guess I just never really lost that childlike curiosity of always wanting to learn new things.
I’m glad I waited until now to watch this. On the day it was released, I’d had a full and dangerous breakdown at a two-week music festival I was playing at, because I was wrestling with a similar ultimate question. The support I received, and a particular concert I played in a few days later, made me feel reborn to an extent I never thought was possible, and everyone there knows how grateful I am. Having returned home yesterday, I feel like I’m now much more the child than I’ve ever been, and am genuinely excited to see where that can take me in a ‘new life’ of honesty and candor.
i would play the uno reverse card.. wearing those clothes with much more confidence than expected, wiggling around my stuff and body in the most akward ways, until everyone cringes to pieces, or, stands up and wiggles with me😂
I can't tell you how much light and positivity your videos bring in my life with your extraordinary gift. thank you for being so "naked" infront of us all. - I was always annoyed und uncomfortable when listening to this fairytale and now I know why - I wondered why it should be wise to be cruel. Now that interpretation makes finally sense. One always has the possibility to change direction, but only if one is brave enough to start moving. I was bullied in my early life quite a bit, but the less masks I was wearing, the easier it was to listen to the uncorrupted child, the more I realized, that the only person who can truly hurt me is me, and everything can be a glorious experience - in retrospect.
Oh, wow. This is an incredible comment. Huge congratulations on the work you’ve done, and I’m so glad you’re enjoying these videos! This means a lot to me, thank you! 🖤
Hazel!! Hazel!!!!!! What a video, what a topic! I’ve heard this story a lot as a kid but this retelling really makes it something else even when very little is different. Thank you for this video!
Thank you! I can’t claim the genius of the reframe as that’s all down to Pinkola Estés, but I had exactly the same reaction when I heard her tell it empathetically, and I’m so glad to have done it justice! 🖤
@@richelle5899 I definitely will! The next batch is already recorded, and there are a few more of this kind in there. I really, really love the topic of myth and fairytale. I’m thrilled you do too!
I knew this story with a difference: the king was the one always asking for more beautiful attires so the most famous tailor of the kingdom came up with this lie to get away with the king's foolish demands. there is something lacking to your story: the child was not scolded. people don't like to face the truth even told by a child, and this is my most frequent experience in this kind of situations. I am actually often the one saying the truth to people, and they usually get back at me for that. they all gracefully accepted that, and that's the part I find the more amazing, today. when I first heard the story, I was a child, and I found it normal, I realize that I have changed, my experience of life changed me. thank you!
I love this story, Hazel, thank you! You make me curious about the work of Estés. I'll have a look. I am most touched by the dynamic in the story of the emperor by the holding up of the 'lie' by the whole group / society. I cannot seem to shake that type of peer pressure (or rather habitual relating) in real life. But you have inspired me to keep trying! ❤
I’m so glad! I’m also fascinated by the idea of stories pulling the rugs out from beneath conditioned/assumed untruths. And you should absolutely check out Estés. I have called head over heels in love with her work. The audiobooks based on her resurrection of the Wild Woman archetype, in particular, are amazing.
I do believe individuals in the nutrition industry are presently attempting to debunk some long-held truths in the Standard American Diet - this is going to take a while. 🙈🙉🙊
@@Betwixt_App No, not at all, but if it has any potential to heal multiple persistent neurological issues, or commonly accepted signs of 'early aging', I think it's a worthy pursuit. I'm most aggravated when 'symptoms' are qualified as 'causes' and the standardized protocols to address these issues are nothing more than rote practice at this point. I just found your channel and have some more listening to do - definitely subbed.
Our egos are competing among themselves while we lose the capacity to be authentic and therefore live a meaninful live. I believe all systems, especially religions, are shame-based and we give our power to others to decide how meaninful our lives are or have been.
I couldn’t agree more. It’s a sad, sad state of affairs that has its roots in the genesis of patriarchal religion (and therefore society), and I truly hope it will one day change.
Because of the emperor's act of public indecency, Saracens detected his weakness and invaded his kingdom. The emperors grandson became a woodsman and one day shared food with a hernit who later showed him an oak tree where his grampa hid his money while he was on the run. But the woodsman squandered all the money trying to build a castle on top of a hill that belonged to two dragons who hated each other. The woodsman was so miffed that he went to a crossroads in Georgia and fought the devil to win a fiddle of gold.
04:00 I became confused about who was opening "their" mouth(s) and who was pushing "them" back because of the use of "they" as a gender neutral pronoun. It just doesn't work. Works in German, but they have a separate word. English needs a new word for this. "They" doesn't cut it.
We do have new words for this - neopronouns such a xe/xem and ze/zem - which I actually prefer but they aren’t in common (enough) parlance yet. That said, I do think we’ll get used to they/them. We already use those pronouns for individuals when the gender isn’t known, so it can’t be too much of a leap. I think we’ll get there with a bit of practice :-)
@@Betwixt_App I agree with luke, 'they' to me is plural. by my understanding of your story here, don't be afraid to take of your clothes and use the new terms!
@@-astrangerontheinternet6687 perhaps you're right in this particular instance, but when has lack of need ever stopped humans from injecting flavors of nuanced complexity?
I have been hoping for a new singular pronoun to replace they (plural pronoun). I heard about ze a few years ago but it's not taking on... I have been called petty and told to "get over it", but they is so grammatically confusing! In French there are many pronouns being offered but for me the pronoun iel is a beautiful hybrid of il (he) and elle (she). ❤
Yes, and everyone else in the story. Jungian interpretation of myth and fairytales sees each archetypal character as an aspect of self. So the story can be understood as a dramatisation of internal conflict rather than a tale of real events between individuals 🖤
I really liked the story told this way! It reminds me of my training days where my peers would pretend to understand what the facilitators were saying (to stay safe) and I genuinely felt dismay that I was so lost by comparison. Keeping my role as the "smartest" in the group (also to stay safe) kept me silent - until the day I found out the truth from an amused facilitator. In learning the lesson I became the person who would ask questions, and I kept realising over and over how often they were questions the whole room was wondering. These days I seem to carry the energy that allows others to feel comfortable enough to do this too.
It's a relief. I never claimed to know everything or even to be the best for the job - I was the one who stepped up to protect others even when I thought I wasn't capable of surviving.
Oh, I love this! Such a brilliant example. Thanks so much for sharing it 🖤
New subscriber! 👋
This interesting edition of an old story could be good for me as a possibly autistic older woman finally considering unmasking, trying to embrace the weirdo within.
I learnt quite young to go along with the crowd for fear of ridicule and bullying for being different and odd. I studied 'normal' people and society and bent myself to fit in, to conform, but never felt quite right, and nowhere near good enough. Now I'm ageing, my IDGAF levels are increasing... 😂
But my compassion and empathy for others, which I have always felt at overwhelming levels, is now my superpower.
We must embrace our childlike logic and care for others.
Oh, I love this!! Huge congratulations on this change (or maybe this return/homecoming?) Either way, it’s great. Thanks for commenting, and for following 🖤
Only by being comfortable in our own skin we can make others comfortable in theirs. There is no shame in accepting our humanness.
Something tells me that in most of the cases during history, the child would've been shunned and even punished for speaking the truth. I know I was quite a few times...
I do hope this trend will stop some day...
@@awesomebearaudiobooks I couldn’t agree more 🖤
Wow. I’m in a moment of big transition, from a career that did not allow me to be …whole or happy, to one that requires me to be everything I truly am. In the lead-up, my competence, reputation, even mental state, have been called into question by a covert workplace bully (in my old workplace). One of my core values is compassion, but I’ve found it really hard to know how to have compassion for the bully. Now I can see how much effort she has put into building a persona, simply because - like the rest of us - she just wants to be accepted and respected. That persona is everything to her now and has required that she deny some of the very creativity and passion that my choices are enacting. That must be really painful. I won’t accept the behaviour, but now I can have compassion for her.
This just gave me goosebumps. What an amazing perspective to take. I have huge respect for this.
And good luck in the new job!! It sounds like an excellent change 🖤
@@Betwixt_App thank you! I can only hope my work is as awesome as yours 😁
“Don’t be overheard complaining…Not even to yourself.”
- Marcus Aurelius
"The brighter the light the darker the shadow"
- Carl Jung
The world which I quietly have observed is so full of complaining, deceivement, and faking that I do not need to add to it by spilling out my deepest darkest experiences, especially if they don't have any value to people other than myself.
The world indeed needs more sharing and that I love to do, if I find it uplifting for myself and to others.
I am not lying about me having gone to the depths of the human psyche through deepened states of mind and being. And what did I learn?
Choose love, everytime, even if it appears as longing or misery. Because too few do so and the spark of light from which all of us are borne shines more brightly when it is united.
🖤🖤🖤
Betwixt has actually helped me tremendously with this very monster. Growing up in some very unhealthy family circumstances, I was cast in the roles of scapegoat and fool. My takeaway from hearing this story at age 8 or so was that people shouldn't get above themselves, or they'd exposed and ridiculed, and they'd deserve it. At home, the narrative about me was that I could never be part of the in-group. I wallowed incorrigibly in intolerable hubris, pretending to be competent when I wasn't, savvy when I wasn't, normal when I wasn't. My constant attempts to prove that I was worthy were what earned being tricked and laughed at. What's obvious to me now of course is, that if an 8 year old hears that story and it confirms that presumption of one's value and worthiness of inclusion is offensive, and that insecure hypervigilance is the best way to shield against the contempt of both family and society...well, it's not the child that's failing the tribe, obviously. The game has helped me to really feel that insight in more immediate daily way. I really enjoy it.
@@weaviejeebies Oh my goodness! I’m so, so thrilled to read this (though not of the hugely challenging childhood experiences, of course). I’m really glad Betwixt could help you make sense of this and disentangle yourself from the old narrative. Well done!
I'm not sure if it's because I'm on the autism spectrum, but I never had a problem exposing my own ignorance because I realized from an early age that admitting I didn't know something could create an opportunity to learn something new from other people. When I admit out loud to other people that I don't know much about a certain topic, the reactions vary from agreement from those who share my circumstance, to mocking (often from people who also don't know but are still trying to keep the facade of knowledge), to praise for having the courage and the humility to admit that I don't know something. But, to me, it never feels like I am being brave, it just feels like I'm being curious. I guess I just never really lost that childlike curiosity of always wanting to learn new things.
I’m glad I waited until now to watch this. On the day it was released, I’d had a full and dangerous breakdown at a two-week music festival I was playing at, because I was wrestling with a similar ultimate question. The support I received, and a particular concert I played in a few days later, made me feel reborn to an extent I never thought was possible, and everyone there knows how grateful I am. Having returned home yesterday, I feel like I’m now much more the child than I’ve ever been, and am genuinely excited to see where that can take me in a ‘new life’ of honesty and candor.
@@AidanMmusic96 Oh, wow! I’m so glad you’re okay, and that the whole episode resolved so positively 🖤
@@Betwixt_App Thanks Hazel! I’ve been away from the Discord for a while but will dip in occasionally.
Ah, well we’re not going anywhere. Drop by any time! 🤍
i would play the uno reverse card.. wearing those clothes with much more confidence than expected, wiggling around my stuff and body in the most akward ways, until everyone cringes to pieces, or, stands up and wiggles with me😂
😂😂😂
I can't tell you how much light and positivity your videos bring in my life with your extraordinary gift. thank you for being so "naked" infront of us all. - I was always annoyed und uncomfortable when listening to this fairytale and now I know why - I wondered why it should be wise to be cruel. Now that interpretation makes finally sense. One always has the possibility to change direction, but only if one is brave enough to start moving. I was bullied in my early life quite a bit, but the less masks I was wearing, the easier it was to listen to the uncorrupted child, the more I realized, that the only person who can truly hurt me is me, and everything can be a glorious experience - in retrospect.
Oh, wow. This is an incredible comment. Huge congratulations on the work you’ve done, and I’m so glad you’re enjoying these videos! This means a lot to me, thank you! 🖤
Thank you for this. Im in such a creative block lately and it definitely has to do with how much im waiting for someone to approve of what im doing.
you're doing great😊
Argh. Yes, I know that feeling.
Excellent! Inspiring!!! I liked your interpretation of the story ! Thank you!
You’re so welcome! Really glad you enjoyed it 🖤
Lovely. Soo well done to you. Thank you 🙏
Thank you!
Hazel!! Hazel!!!!!! What a video, what a topic! I’ve heard this story a lot as a kid but this retelling really makes it something else even when very little is different.
Thank you for this video!
Thank you! I can’t claim the genius of the reframe as that’s all down to Pinkola Estés, but I had exactly the same reaction when I heard her tell it empathetically, and I’m so glad to have done it justice! 🖤
Your evolution as a storyteller and a host is a delight
@@alexlindbjerg Oh, thank you!! 🖤
@@Betwixt_App well, you did this to yourself 😉
@@alexlindbjerg Hahaha! I mean, that sounds mildly ominous 😂
@@alexlindbjerg But thank you. It does mean a lot 🖤🖤🖤
@@Betwixt_App Well, mission accomplished ❤
Thank you for sharing this story 💜
You’re so welcome! 🖤
You are such a brilliant storyteller! And your stories change me and deepen my understanding of myself. Such good work.❤
Thank you! I can’t claim the genius of this reframe, really, as that’s down to Estés, but I’m very glad to have done it justice! 🖤
My sister is a narcissist. She's 9 yrs older and lived for humiliating me about intimate things. Still dealing with her. Its exhausting.
I’m so sorry to hear this 🖤
Brilliant, I really enjoyed this. Can you please do more of these
@@richelle5899 I definitely will! The next batch is already recorded, and there are a few more of this kind in there. I really, really love the topic of myth and fairytale. I’m thrilled you do too!
I knew this story with a difference: the king was the one always asking for more beautiful attires so the most famous tailor of the kingdom came up with this lie to get away with the king's foolish demands.
there is something lacking to your story: the child was not scolded. people don't like to face the truth even told by a child, and this is my most frequent experience in this kind of situations. I am actually often the one saying the truth to people, and they usually get back at me for that.
they all gracefully accepted that, and that's the part I find the more amazing, today. when I first heard the story, I was a child, and I found it normal, I realize that I have changed, my experience of life changed me.
thank you!
🖤🖤🖤
I love this story, Hazel, thank you! You make me curious about the work of Estés. I'll have a look. I am most touched by the dynamic in the story of the emperor by the holding up of the 'lie' by the whole group / society. I cannot seem to shake that type of peer pressure (or rather habitual relating) in real life. But you have inspired me to keep trying! ❤
I’m so glad! I’m also fascinated by the idea of stories pulling the rugs out from beneath conditioned/assumed untruths.
And you should absolutely check out Estés. I have called head over heels in love with her work. The audiobooks based on her resurrection of the Wild Woman archetype, in particular, are amazing.
I do believe individuals in the nutrition industry are presently attempting to debunk some long-held truths in the Standard American Diet - this is going to take a while. 🙈🙉🙊
@@steffurnessOh god. Yeah, that’s no small task 😂
@@Betwixt_App No, not at all, but if it has any potential to heal multiple persistent neurological issues, or commonly accepted signs of 'early aging', I think it's a worthy pursuit. I'm most aggravated when 'symptoms' are qualified as 'causes' and the standardized protocols to address these issues are nothing more than rote practice at this point. I just found your channel and have some more listening to do - definitely subbed.
This is excellent ❤
Wondering ❤. Saved so I can listen again. Thank you ☺️
You're super welcome!
@@Betwixt_App that was supposed to say wonderful 😁. Predictive text 🙄😁😘
You are brilliant. Really love the way you ao beautifully explain the complexity. Keep it up. Always look forward to your videos
Thank you so much! I’m really glad you’re enjoying them 🖤
Our egos are competing among themselves while we lose the capacity to be authentic and therefore live a meaninful live.
I believe all systems, especially religions, are shame-based and we give our power to others to decide how meaninful our lives are or have been.
I couldn’t agree more. It’s a sad, sad state of affairs that has its roots in the genesis of patriarchal religion (and therefore society), and I truly hope it will one day change.
very beautiful indeed, thanks for sharing :)
You’re super welcome 🖤
Okay 😊 i am a subscriber now
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Love this!!!
Thanks! 🙏🏼
Ooooo! It took a while to wrap my head around that one! I love when that happens!
Yes!!! That’s the best! Brain percolation 🧠 ✨🧠
Because of the emperor's act of public indecency, Saracens detected his weakness and invaded his kingdom. The emperors grandson became a woodsman and one day shared food with a hernit who later showed him an oak tree where his grampa hid his money while he was on the run. But the woodsman squandered all the money trying to build a castle on top of a hill that belonged to two dragons who hated each other. The woodsman was so miffed that he went to a crossroads in Georgia and fought the devil to win a fiddle of gold.
keep it up plz xx
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04:00 I became confused about who was opening "their" mouth(s) and who was pushing "them" back because of the use of "they" as a gender neutral pronoun. It just doesn't work. Works in German, but they have a separate word. English needs a new word for this. "They" doesn't cut it.
We do have new words for this - neopronouns such a xe/xem and ze/zem - which I actually prefer but they aren’t in common (enough) parlance yet.
That said, I do think we’ll get used to they/them. We already use those pronouns for individuals when the gender isn’t known, so it can’t be too much of a leap. I think we’ll get there with a bit of practice :-)
@@Betwixt_App I agree with luke, 'they' to me is plural. by my understanding of your story here, don't be afraid to take of your clothes and use the new terms!
We don’t need new words. Just pick “he” or “she” it makes absolutely no difference to the story at all.
@@-astrangerontheinternet6687 perhaps you're right in this particular instance, but when has lack of need ever stopped humans from injecting flavors of nuanced complexity?
I have been hoping for a new singular pronoun to replace they (plural pronoun). I heard about ze a few years ago but it's not taking on...
I have been called petty and told to "get over it", but they is so grammatically confusing!
In French there are many pronouns being offered but for me the pronoun iel is a beautiful hybrid of il (he) and elle (she). ❤
So the Cheats, the Emperor and the Child are really all the same person.
Yes, and everyone else in the story. Jungian interpretation of myth and fairytales sees each archetypal character as an aspect of self. So the story can be understood as a dramatisation of internal conflict rather than a tale of real events between individuals 🖤
@@Betwixt_App That is a more positive way of looking at the story.
@@gaebren9021 Definitely. I think that’s basically always true