i have one of this with 30#. it's very easy to center shoot. thanks to Mr. Armin making a review for this bow. it's very recommended for the low budget laminated manchu/qing bow
I was biting my teeth when you are fixing it on 35"! I'm happy when I see bow builders trust you expertise. I'm discouraged with AF shipping. Maraming Salamat Armin and AF archery.
@@Alexuuuuus can you please elaborate your question? How what? :) Unfortunately AR Archery doesn't have the Qing Lamitnated. But the Turkish they do have. Maybe you can send them an email asking about th Qing. They were very helpful with me when I wrote them. Cheers
@@Alexuuuuus HI Alejandro. I am not sure it is appropriate for me to be writing about this here at Armins channel. Please write me an email and I will explain it better to you. if click on my name you will be directed to my page (that's completely empty) then clicked on "about" (acerca de) you will have the option to see my email. I tried to send you a direct message but I didn't manage to do it... so write me and I will explain it to you. or if you prefer just give me your email. cheers.
A Manchu bow at that price and see that it works very well . its owner will enjoy it a lot🎯😀 The day I shoot 32 "well, I could think of going up to 33" maybe 34 "but my arms won't help me much🙈🤣 Thanks for the review Mr. Armin. Nice day to all in the Ranch.🙏
I'm always happy to see your movies. It's really interesting to see the different arrow of different part of the world. In France I think everybody are too much interesting about french, us, English bows and we are not too much open of each other's. Thanks Armin, maybe a day I'll come to see you and shoot with you.
This Bow I also have... It's an awesome Qing Bow by AF..specially the quality at this price. This Bow gives you a punch when arrows is shot, which goest straight, fast and accurate.... Ashwood with black lamination looks awesome..the string sound when Armin draws it is bit disturbing, but this doesn't happens with my AF Qing... Bit viberation when string hits the bridges.. but that's where you get feeling of punchy Bow..takes heavy arrows too good. Although I draw till 30 inches... But it does the Work... Very Nice video Armin...too cool
Very nice bow. I can wait to try 34 inches draw. 32 inches was the max I tried. Thank a lot Lois Pasteur for making it possible. Armin.. when you were measuring the draw weight at 28" you said 34.3 but wrote 43.3 (dreiundvierzig oder vierunddreissig - I mix them so often when speaking German) But clearly 34.3 is the correct value. In case you haven't notice... correct the data in your archive.
Do the arrows go where you want them to? Yes Is it a cool bow, the Kheshig factor? Yes Does it draw 34 inches and less for people that want to do the thumb release? Yes Does it shoot heavy arrows fast? Yes! Is this the cheapest laminated manchu bow that you can get and have fun with? Probably yes. AF archery probably has a horsebow for everybody!
I found the creaking sounds the bow made beyond @ 31 in. of draw to be a tad worrisome. I hope this is not a precursor of perils to come. I wish you would have taken a few shots after adjusting the brace height, therefore I look forward to the comparison video. Kia mihi, as always for your entertaining and informative reviews.
Bought one of these a few years ago - love the bow, but I never got longer arrows to test what it could do at longer draw lengths. Lovely for the price, though.
Would love to see a comparison between the MKIII by Fairbow vs this one. This one seems faster idk. I know speed isnt a factor with manchu bows but when comparing them it can be
I have this bow and draw it only to 34 and it’s 45#@34”, what arrow weight would you suggest. I tried the whole the bows weight x 0.6 and that seemed way to light weight. Also wanted to mention finally got my kheshig in the mail and man is that bow a joy to fling arrows from, I made 3 different arrow lengths and weights hit on the target from 85 yards right out of the box. Thank you for your time and effort in your amazing videos.
Armin Hirmer Thanks for the response, always greatly appreciated. I have some 34” 500 spine arrows that weight 490 to 500gpp I got from alibow, should those be fine or to light spine for that draw length? Again thanks for the replies and your time.
Mine is also 35lb at 28(measured 37.5lb). The sound of the bow's firts draw after stringing is terrifing, but its only the string getting aligned on the string bridges. Mine is odlly lighter, only 502grams and with 11.2 gpp arrows it does cca 165-170fps. It really likes heavier arrows. But those are hard to find( especially 35+ inch) and expesive(any tips for long and heavy arrows for good price?). The bow has nice kick when the string lands on the bridges - I like that. Great bow, I'am loving mine. Thanks for the review.
Salogel88: Contact Sarmat Archery, they can make you 36"+ Manchu style arrows, barreled shafts, long fletching, etc.. very durable in ash, someone shot one of them into a brick wall and it survived. Affordable and very good value for the money.
Völlig ausm Kontext aber was hälst du von den Kassaibögen? Und hast du mal einen geschossen? Falls nein, magst du mal einen schießen und Feedback geben? Fänd ich ziemlich interessant, weil man generell wenig zu denen findet :)
The carbon shafts are from Nijora.de fletching had cut by me. The bamboo with long feathers are from fairbow Netherlands and the bamboo with shorter ones are from Sarmat archery
@@ArminHirmer I thought it depends on the length of the bow. Koreans have the aggressive curves but are too short, so they reach 60 at around 28 inches. If they were longer, it would happen after 30 inches, no?
Because the limbs, especially the limb tips with those long siyahs, are heavy, so compared to other bows with lighter limbs and limb tips, a relatively larger proportion of the total energy stored in the bow at full draw is used up just moving the limbs themselves. This makes the dry fire speed of these bows low. On the other hand, the long siyahs and long draw length mean they can store a lot of energy, especially for their draw weight. The result is a bow that, as I said, has a low dry fire speed compared to other bows, but that isn't as strongly affected by increasing arrow mass as other bows as well. At high arrow masses (something like 13 GPP and higher), these bows outperform every other kind of bow until you get to compound bows.
gettin" tired of this style bows i look at the limbs and how they absurdly bend back at the handle and the give up their length of working force applied per length per some absurd 30 plus inches, the "smoothness" of which you comment upon meaning that it's useless energy since that last 4 inches is nothing but wompy uselessness. .performance figures you seem to have demonished ever since you dissed the black hunter at way more effiency yet hung up on a phase in production which resulted in some limb bolt diameters not matching diamondwood risers' previous product runs. .yeah i know your thumb release is unique and right of center arrow rest is along with it but probly for the last hundred reviews all you shoot is these "sija" equipped things that more often than not disappoint
I am sure that there are many channels on TH-cam which show bows you like Phillip. We here are a small family who simply like something different and as we are all archers, we are all accepting the other opinions, right?
Oh my goodness .... 😁 Phil! Why you bothered to watch a review on a bow design you don't like is an interesting waste of your time. I don't watch reviews on women's make-up because it bores me. And I'm certainly not going to watch a video on women's make-up and then complain in the comments about how I don't like it. Dude ..... seriously. Life is short.
@@ArminHirmer yes thankyou, Armin . . b'lieve me i've much appreciated your working with the bows and arrows you have and review, even tho' they're mostly somewhat out of style around here; i guess the only intelligent thing i might try to say is, how come a full working limb, with consistent materials [laminations] throughout, and with heat pressed curves preloading the flexations, cannot seem to impress you much ? . the reverse limb version of the black hunter came out 2 years ago, with many good draw curve characteristics, for u.s. $200. .
i have one of this with 30#. it's very easy to center shoot. thanks to Mr. Armin making a review for this bow. it's very recommended for the low budget laminated manchu/qing bow
Nock to nock length is 65.5". Thanks for being who you are and serving the community as you do.
It’d be amazing if you could do a comparison with the Yarha and other Manchu bows with this AF Qing bow! Great review, so thankful for your channel
I was biting my teeth when you are fixing it on 35"!
I'm happy when I see bow builders trust you expertise.
I'm discouraged with AF shipping.
Maraming Salamat Armin and AF archery.
If you live in Europe you can order many AF Archery bows from AR Archery in England. no taxes until end of 2020, and shipping about 10 pounds
@@EnriqueLUrcia how?? 😳😳😳
@@Alexuuuuus can you please elaborate your question? How what? :) Unfortunately AR Archery doesn't have the Qing Lamitnated. But the Turkish they do have. Maybe you can send them an email asking about th Qing. They were very helpful with me when I wrote them. Cheers
@@EnriqueLUrcia no no :)! I meant how can I get the bow in Europe with no taxes 😳 hahaha
@@Alexuuuuus HI Alejandro. I am not sure it is appropriate for me to be writing about this here at Armins channel. Please write me an email and I will explain it better to you. if click on my name you will be directed to my page (that's completely empty) then clicked on "about" (acerca de) you will have the option to see my email. I tried to send you a direct message but I didn't manage to do it... so write me and I will explain it to you. or if you prefer just give me your email. cheers.
your voice is like the Bob Ross of Archery
A Manchu bow at that price
and see that it works very well . its owner will enjoy it a lot🎯😀 The day I shoot 32 "well, I could think of going up to 33" maybe 34 "but my arms won't help me much🙈🤣 Thanks for the review Mr. Armin. Nice day to all in the Ranch.🙏
I'm always happy to see your movies. It's really interesting to see the different arrow of different part of the world. In France I think everybody are too much interesting about french, us, English bows and we are not too much open of each other's. Thanks Armin, maybe a day I'll come to see you and shoot with you.
This Bow I also have... It's an awesome Qing Bow by AF..specially the quality at this price. This Bow gives you a punch when arrows is shot, which goest straight, fast and accurate.... Ashwood with black lamination looks awesome..the string sound when Armin draws it is bit disturbing, but this doesn't happens with my AF Qing... Bit viberation when string hits the bridges.. but that's where you get feeling of punchy Bow..takes heavy arrows too good. Although I draw till 30 inches... But it does the Work...
Very Nice video Armin...too cool
Always enjoy these reviews! Thanks!!
Very nice bow. I can wait to try 34 inches draw. 32 inches was the max I tried. Thank a lot Lois Pasteur for making it possible. Armin.. when you were measuring the draw weight at 28" you said 34.3 but wrote 43.3 (dreiundvierzig oder vierunddreissig - I mix them so often when speaking German) But clearly 34.3 is the correct value. In case you haven't notice... correct the data in your archive.
yeah the German in me....
What a lovely bow! Even with the shipping it looks a great value. Another great review Armin
Do the arrows go where you want them to? Yes
Is it a cool bow, the Kheshig factor? Yes
Does it draw 34 inches and less for people that want to do the thumb release? Yes
Does it shoot heavy arrows fast? Yes!
Is this the cheapest laminated manchu bow that you can get and have fun with? Probably yes.
AF archery probably has a horsebow for everybody!
another stunning bow .... if my draw length was that big... i'd order one tomorrow ... but i'm at 32" and building up ...
I haven't seen one of your videos in a minute and that new intro is awesome.
Hi Armin, 65.5 from nock to nock. Thank you for all the informative reviews.
Nice i love the idea of hitting the target with those sharp logs ,doesn't smack the target like the tang chang an but its really cool.
Another great and informative review: thank you Armin.
I found the creaking sounds the bow made beyond @ 31 in. of draw to be a tad worrisome. I hope this is not a precursor of perils to come. I wish you would have taken a few shots after adjusting the brace height, therefore I look forward to the comparison video. Kia mihi, as always for your entertaining and informative reviews.
Zacharia teKawaare , the creaking sound makes me nervous.
65.5 inch length! Hope you’re well!
I will wait until the postage cost reduces. 120USD is a bit much. Where do you get your long arrows from Armin.?
Bought one of these a few years ago - love the bow, but I never got longer arrows to test what it could do at longer draw lengths. Lovely for the price, though.
Hi Armin 65.5 inches it looks so much longer!
What a beautiful bow
looks like a very nice bow for that price its amazing. if the shipping could get a reduction it would be a no brain purchase.
Would love to see a comparison between the MKIII by Fairbow vs this one. This one seems faster idk. I know speed isnt a factor with manchu bows but when comparing them it can be
That looks like a nice shooting bow, has a great shape, also I really like the exx long draw.
👍🏼🏹🇺🇸
I have this bow and draw it only to 34 and it’s 45#@34”, what arrow weight would you suggest. I tried the whole the bows weight x 0.6 and that seemed way to light weight. Also wanted to mention finally got my kheshig in the mail and man is that bow a joy to fling arrows from, I made 3 different arrow lengths and weights hit on the target from 85 yards right out of the box. Thank you for your time and effort in your amazing videos.
Min 10gpp
Armin Hirmer Thanks for the response, always greatly appreciated. I have some 34” 500 spine arrows that weight 490 to 500gpp I got from alibow, should those be fine or to light spine for that draw length? Again thanks for the replies and your time.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Keep going Mr Armin 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Great video as always :) How does it compare to the Han Bow Long Fibreglass ?
Mine is also 35lb at 28(measured 37.5lb). The sound of the bow's firts draw after stringing is terrifing, but its only the string getting aligned on the string bridges. Mine is odlly lighter, only 502grams and with 11.2 gpp arrows it does cca 165-170fps. It really likes heavier arrows. But those are hard to find( especially 35+ inch) and expesive(any tips for long and heavy arrows for good price?). The bow has nice kick when the string lands on the bridges - I like that. Great bow, I'am loving mine. Thanks for the review.
Salogel88: Contact Sarmat Archery, they can make you 36"+ Manchu style arrows, barreled shafts, long fletching, etc.. very durable in ash, someone shot one of them into a brick wall and it survived. Affordable and very good value for the money.
Please do Swabi Mukha archery it would be nice
what is that please?
Völlig ausm Kontext aber was hälst du von den Kassaibögen? Und hast du mal einen geschossen? Falls nein, magst du mal einen schießen und Feedback geben? Fänd ich ziemlich interessant, weil man generell wenig zu denen findet :)
Es una maravilla ese arco
Nice bow
Does it kick like the Yarha ( the old Prügel)?? THX Armin
nope :)
Armin i love these arrows please where did order them ?
Which one? Bamboo or carbon?
@@ArminHirmer all of them in these video...::
@@ArminHirmersame kind of arrows but for Turkish or Mongolian traditional bow....I m planning to get a Nawalny bow...:)
The carbon shafts are from Nijora.de fletching had cut by me. The bamboo with long feathers are from fairbow Netherlands and the bamboo with shorter ones are from Sarmat archery
A long limbed, svelte, Asian beauty.A far cry from the beastly self bows I so adore.I should become more civilized,easy to love this one.
Ist das eine Fastflight+ Sehne oder Dacron B50?
Dacron
Are Af and Ali Bow related.? This looks exactly like the bow I got from Ali Bow.
no
Thats look cool !
Ha, again fantastik bow in good hands. ☺
Very nice. I want one :)
Now imagine a Korean bow which would have 60° angle at 34 inches! Does it even exist?
nope, not possible with the design
@@ArminHirmer I thought it depends on the length of the bow. Koreans have the aggressive curves but are too short, so they reach 60 at around 28 inches. If they were longer, it would happen after 30 inches, no?
Is there a website I can get that bow 🤔
link is in description of the video
why is manchu bows so slow?
the design is made to carry heavy arrows at a good distance
@@ArminHirmer
you are going to take side by side comparison with Yarha?
Because the limbs, especially the limb tips with those long siyahs, are heavy, so compared to other bows with lighter limbs and limb tips, a relatively larger proportion of the total energy stored in the bow at full draw is used up just moving the limbs themselves. This makes the dry fire speed of these bows low. On the other hand, the long siyahs and long draw length mean they can store a lot of energy, especially for their draw weight. The result is a bow that, as I said, has a low dry fire speed compared to other bows, but that isn't as strongly affected by increasing arrow mass as other bows as well. At high arrow masses (something like 13 GPP and higher), these bows outperform every other kind of bow until you get to compound bows.
@@aliendoggy1 yes I think so. Soon I have the long draw yarha here too :)
@@ArminHirmer any ideas where I can get 36 inch arrows?
He's put a plexiglass shielding on that device 🙄
gettin" tired of this style bows i look at the limbs and how they absurdly bend back at the handle and the give up their length of working force applied per length per some absurd 30 plus inches, the "smoothness" of which you comment upon meaning that it's useless energy since that last 4 inches is nothing but wompy uselessness. .performance figures you seem to have demonished ever since you dissed the black hunter at way more effiency yet hung up on a phase in production which resulted in some limb bolt diameters not matching diamondwood risers' previous product runs. .yeah i know your thumb release is unique and right of center arrow rest is along with it but probly for the last hundred reviews all you shoot is these "sija" equipped things that more often than not disappoint
I am sure that there are many channels on TH-cam which show bows you like Phillip. We here are a small family who simply like something different and as we are all archers, we are all accepting the other opinions, right?
Oh my goodness .... 😁
Phil!
Why you bothered to watch a review on a bow design you don't like is an interesting waste of your time. I don't watch reviews on women's make-up because it bores me. And I'm certainly not going to watch a video on women's make-up and then complain in the comments about how I don't like it.
Dude ..... seriously.
Life is short.
@@ArminHirmer yes thankyou, Armin . . b'lieve me i've much appreciated your working with the bows and arrows you have and review, even tho' they're mostly somewhat out of style around here; i guess the only intelligent thing i might try to say is, how come a full working limb, with consistent materials [laminations] throughout, and with heat pressed curves preloading the flexations, cannot seem to impress you much ? . the reverse limb version of the black hunter came out 2 years ago, with many good draw curve characteristics, for u.s. $200. .