Classic Stossel: Stupid in America
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- Exciting things are happening in education suddenly. In some places, charter schools bucked the unions, and got results. Inner-city kids do well on benchmark tests.
They are excited to learn! When Stossel tells fourth graders that school is boring, they yell at him, “No, it’s not!” Says one boy: “Reading is rockin’ awesome!”
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Stossel reports on the innovations at the Success Charter Network and Harlem Village Academy in New York, and at the American Indian Public Charter School in Oakland, California.
“Let’s destroy the system… create a system that serves kids,” says charter school director Deborah Kenny. Hurricane Katrina made that experiment possible by destroying much of New Orleans. Now 70% of New Orleans students attend charters, and they’re learning more.
A Classic Stossel from 2011
I'm a teacher. In schools you have so much administration and bureaucracy it is unreal. Director of this, director of that, blah blah. Should be Principal, teachers, period.
and Parents!
I was a teacher in remote Canada and it was the same. Bad teachers were moved up the ladder to get them out of the class and teachers never got any real help from them.
Teacher as well here, bureaucratic red tape coupled with extreme gate keeping and outright political witch-hunting of staff that isn’t part of the hive mind is absolutely toxic for our students.i think some elements within the charter video go a little too far but the results speak for themselves compared with most public schools.
@@TriZaba I doubt the charter schools deal with kids with autism or Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. Also anyone can screen a large urban population to get students that want to go to school. The fact the parents want the kids in a school where their kids learn screens the kids from the ones that dont care.
I'm retired from a school district.
School districts have so many Assistant Superintendents; it's laughable. They have to create more space to provide offices for all of these new six figure administrative positions and their administrative assistants. There is a large chunk of the cost of your child's education.
Throwing money at the problem doesn’t work, school choice and competition does.
I spent 15 years in government, money was always the answer.
If I'm running a failing school and the government gives me more money to help, why would I ever start succeeding?
Crappy, selfish, constantly fighting parents also don't help.
@@dictatorenvy472 welcome to humanity and all its sins. Unfortunately that exists so it's something you have to work with
@@mudbucket1650 But its for the kids
Wow, teachers actually concerned about their student's learning. Funny, how things that were commonplace 50 years ago are now revolutionary today.
"Everything that's old is new again."
Even that saying is old.
Exactly
This should be the standard for all schools, not the exception. Every position I have ever held came with the implication that, if my performance were sub-par, my employment would be terminated. Teachers should be no different. It's an extremely important job because these children are the future, they will be running the country, so their teachers need to be phenomenal. If they are not, they need to be terminated . Everything should be done to insure their education is as exceptional as possible. Instead, parents wishing for a top notch education for their children must hope they have a winning ticket. I'm serious when I say as education goes, so goes our nation, and our nation is looking bleak.
I'm friends with my kids charter school teachers... believe me there is major burnout also. My kids kindergarten teacher is quitting after this year after 22 years with this school (her entire teaching career)
Or being fired for incompetence.
When we first moved to AZ I signed my kids up for public school, three weeks in I sent my son to his JR. High math teacher to explain how to do some problems and her response was, “don’t worry, I don’t know how to solve them either…” I pulled him out and sent him to a Charter school with high expectations and scores.
This will scare you more. When I was in college, I went to ask my professor a question. She told me that she was not there to teach us. She's there to guide us and gives us assignments only. She would assign homework and her way of teaching and explaining the homework assignment was to copy what was on the teacher's solution manual to the white board. Both her and her husband have tenure. I heard her husband was good but teaches another subject. A lot of times, the professor has a reputation of being good not because they are really good but because they are easy on the grades. ... Yes, I'm talking about you Mrs. Watermelon!!!!!!!!!
@@monkeyking-self-proclaimed7050 That’s terrible. I had great teachers in college who could explain (multiple ways) how to solve the problems. The worst college instructor I had was a philosophy teacher.
@@hs5167 philosophy cannot be taught it can only be learned
My old animation teacher, who taught us how to use Autodesk Maya, retired halfway through my senior year. She was replaced by another teacher who didn't know how to animate or use Autodesk Maya, so we had to learn the rest of what was left for the school year by ourselves. She was a very condescending jerk too, especially for a teacher who knew less than all of her students did about the subject (that's not even an exaggeration).
She even had the whole summer or teach herself how to use Maya, and she refused, but instead came back to school still not knowing how to use it. Thankfully for me, I was already in college when she returned for the new school year, but I know this because someone who was a grade below me told me.
It's not like I went to a really bad school either. It wasn't the best of the district, but it wasn't the worst either. I can't imagine how huge of a problem it must be in schools with even less funding.
Exactly. Sad about the decline of public schools in my area and worse that some people do not care about responsibility and are just going along with whatever free thing they can have. And Giving all the kids cell phones.
John is a treasure. Those parents waiting in line FOR THE CHANCE TO GET THEIR KIDS INTO A SCHOOL ARE HEROES. THOSE ARE THE BEST DAMN PARENTS! WE NEED MORE LIKE THEM!
Unfortunately, we keep voting for mayors and city councils who pander to teachers' unions and oppose charter schools.
And we need to help these schools expand so more of those parents can get their kids into the programs.
If those parents were heroes wouldn’t they take an interest in there own local public school to facilitate change or Is that to much work or is it just about there child.
@@juanone66 It has nothing to do with government policy. It has to do with culture. The fact of the matter is that you can only teach content only a certain amount of ways
You have a low bar for hero.
Remember, it's the teacher's union, not the student's union. When the parents cannot choose, there is no incentive for the school to ensure that the student success.
That’s a great point, no students union or parents union.
Like your logo!
Unions first step to socialism. in the day say the slaughter houses of Chicago they had there place. Today their only as strong as the weakest link, you don't see the navy using bailing wire to repair an anchor chain. That's what you have, you give up the ability to fire someone for not doing the job hired for substandard outcomes is inevitable.
@@jamesk641 never said they were good. Just pointing out who they represent, so you know that anything they do is for their members, or more likely for their leadership.
Love the logo!
My kids are in the Common Core curriculum and the math assignments are reprehensible. I can only conclude that the government is intentionally giving our children bad educations.
Yes they hand pick kids from other countries that our gov is in bed w America is out even mexicans are getting all our good const jobs sending riches back to Mexico and retiring early while there's no such thing for over worked Americans 200$ in Mexico is 4000
To send them from the Lunch Line to the Bread Line. From the wings of freedom to the yoke of Communism.
Im curious what you are going to do about it?
@@vince1638 I and my wife, are and will remain Child free. However, I see the danger in the Country's future if the course of education doesn't change. Public Schools are beyond repair. Homeschooling, charter schools,private schools and non public internet options are the best hope to save this Republic.
I'm curious what state you live in. Lots of states have dropped common core now. Some have quietly renamed it.
"My grandfather once told me that there were two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was much less competition" - Indira Gandhi
out of all u got indira gandhi, btw she too took other people credit, ask sam manek shaw.
Seeing the kids that are really enthusiastic about school really warms my heart. Kids truly thrive when you set high expectations and hold them accountable. They feel loved when they are in an environment like that.
Also, it really angers me that Teachers Unions and Liberal politicians do what they can to obstruct charter schools and school choice. They are the ones that are depriving our next generation.
I'm convinced that Teachers Unions are the reasons why American Education is so fucked up. People keep asking for more money but if Carter Schools are able to do this with less cash, there is clearly another reason why America comes dead last in terms of education. It's not the politicians that don't seem to care, it's the teachers.
Most people want to be held to higher standards and love the feeling of success. It is easy to give up and not succeed though when you have s-bags around you including crappy teachers.
@@googleisevil8958 Oh it's absolutely the case. It makes everything so bureaucratic and inefficient. And not getting rid of people that are underperforming is also a real killer.
The system is working as designed. Food for thought.
@@googleisevil8958 Do police unions share the same drawbacks as teacher unions?
It's really simple.
They are teaching students practical and applicable education.
These teachers are actually teaching so their students are actually learning
Beyond that: the students want to be there and the teachers love to devote their time to those children. Even if you don't believe them when they're telling you, you can see it on video.
Gee, it's like "old school" teaching techniques work! When teachers could use and adapt their teaching techniques to fit what works for each kid. Also natural consequences work. Nothing wrong with kids doing push ups for punishment if they are capable, doing real physical activity in PE, etc ...
I LOVE to hear that children love to learn. Its natural for them to learn. It takes boring, anxiety -ridden schools to grind that out of them.
As a public high school educator, I approve of this video.
Much respect to you.
Thank you! I had a great history teacher that taught me the horror socialism. I don't think he is still a teacher because the school board didn't like him. It is a sad now where I graduated. They hired more security. They treat students like prisoners.
America, where do you get so many black people?
It seems to me the money being spent by the government on public education goes to pay the salaries of administrators and pet projects, not on actual students.
I'm a high school dropout from Arkansas who has had to correct the grammar of college graduates. Something is very wrong with that picture. I can't tell you how many college graduates I've met who were dumber than dirt. Education =/= intelligence. By 6th grade I knew I was being told a bunch of horseshit. It was mostly platitudes about "America the Magnificent", interspersed with math, English and (not enough) history. The fact that I couldn't get a study guide and 'take the finals' before age 16 told me something: School is indoctrination.
@johncollins7062 Someday, those administrators will be dragged from their offices, lined up against a wall, and machine-gunned. Then, and only then, will we be able to un-fuck our school system.
"Embarassment keeps people in line, whether we want to admit it or not." If there's no shame, there can't be pride.
Thank you John. You are one of a small handful of journalists still committed to the craft. Always insightful and interesting.
He really is one of like a handful of journalists that are actually worthy of your time & respect. One of the few who is objective in their presentation of the news.
Yes, like Charter Schools. Also really appreciate John Stossel over the years.
Indeed
*Like these kids weren't coached.* *Parents need to stop sending the children to institutions, giving your child over to the enemy which is the state.*
*"The Craft" code for Masons.*
My high school teachers were absurdly pathetic. Some felt there was nothing wrong showing up late to class on a daily basis. Others felt it was ok to give busy work on a near daily basis. Others felt it was ok to show movies on a near daily basis. If I could, I would have fired about half the teachers I had. Of course there was a teachers union.
Mine did that too. My college professors were no better. I had a professor complain about teaching, showing up for work and then ended up failing the majority class and lecture the class about being lazy. This was just a small time college.
I had an English teacher in high school who would show up hungover on a fairly regular basis, we could tell she had a hangover because she would wear her sunglasses all day and turn on a movie. She would also have us read books with tons of swear words out loud and lose her mind if someone read exactly what was on the page. Finally after missing a week and half due to bronchitis during which time the class had started a group project, I was told to do the project on my own and given the same deadline as the other students.
This is the secret why Vietnamese students are crazy good. We got disciplined. I appreciate my teachers everyday. They did a great job educating children.
My kids were having a really difficult time in public school. I pulled them out and home schooled them in conjunction with a charter school for three years. They are now getting straight A's and performing exceptionally.
Aw'ight, I'll do so. You've earnt that Legend.
Beyond schools, textbooks, even teachers, the #1 factor in determining the success of a child in school (and in life) are his/her parents. Your kids are lucky to have you as a parent.
So good to hear! kudos.
Stossel, you’ve been killin it for as long as I can remember. Don’t stop… more people need to see what you show them. You’re amazing. A true national treasure.
Stossel tells the story of the poor boss being driven into the poor house by taxes and the unions while laughing all the way to the bank. The man is nothing but highly paid stooge for capitalism.
@@kimobrien. Capitalism works for the educated, the prepared and those who work hard. Not for the stupid, lazy stoners on government support. (Actually, it works for them, too, but by being on government support, they have limited their success and freedom.)
@@kimobrien. Screw your communism!
Betcha they aren’t teaching critical race theory !! 👍🏻
@@newerafrican If capitalism worked for those who work hard, immigrant workers would all be millionaires. Get real.
I grew up in south America and went to private school my whole life. We had waaaay! less resources that public schools here and we learned way more.
Yeah grammar's never been my strong point but if you're going to bash the US educational system you best be on point just saying
@@hambone7181 the US public "education" system is run and controlled by freemasons. The system was created by 33rd degree freemason Horace Mann. He created it to indoctrinate not to educate. "I want a nation of workers, not a nation of thinkers."
John D Rockefeller
"Shortly, the public will be unable to reason or think for themselves. They'll only be able to parrot the information they've been given on the previous night's news."
Zbigniew Brzezinski - former US National Security Advisor and father of msnbc's Mika Brzezinski.
The public is beeing intentionally dumbdowned. They don't have the mental capacity or will to question anything, research anything or self educate. Now they are all controlled by the tell-lie-vison.
English is probably not their first language. Lots of PHD holders maintained bad grammar. I do agree grammar is important but apparently it is not a reflection of intelligence, Einstein was known to be a bad speller.
@@Sycosoulreaver It makes sense. I think he had dyslexia, no?
In Democrat run institutions (public schools) the intention isn't to learn. You can't have educated slaves now can you?
I love John Stossel. I used his stuff when I homeschooled my daughter. She liked him too.
Great video. I have never understood why a college educated person needed a union. Being an engineer, I didn't. If I failed I got fired.
Minimal unions are helpful in making sure wages match inflation, have breaks, vacation and sick time. They are not helpful when they get so powerful that they kill competition amongst workers and incentivize everyone to do nothing for higher rewards. I do not think you should eliminate unions, until the beforementioned list is all adequately met, then the Union should exist only as a check and balance in case of a future violation where the workplace decides to violate those terms.
@@jason200912 I agree that unions have a place, but a college degreed person should be able to handle their job professionally and not require protection of a union.
@@joeyoboy1369 See john Stossel's video on the college degree and it's degraded value. They don't require the protection of a union, but inflation match per year is really the only thing a Union should be working towards. There is no advantages of fixed wages that do not adjust with the 2% inflation of the US Fed
Shouldve mentioned Thomas Sowell's recent book, 'Charter Schools and Their Enemies'!
this is a reupload this vid is 11 years old
That's because this was an older piece he had dusted off, I do believe, so that book had not been published yet.
This is from 2006.
Sowell’s book only came out last year. This is a reupload of an old Stossel story
Thomas Sowell is a national treasure
Can you imagine a little kid crying because he was not accepted into an amazing school like that? Wow. Heartbreaking.
Love the reactions from the kids in the first group. You were totally feeding them the opportunity to say how they hated school, math, reading, etc, and they totally disagreed and showed how much they loved it. That's huge.
it starts in the home. yes, i did everything i could to get my son into one of these schools. the home work didnt stop there. my son is now 18 and started his own business. these schools and programs are a blessing, but parents have to want it and be willing to do there part
Hello, may i ask you some questions about this school?, could you confidently confirm this method work? Did you saw a noticeable improvement in your kids overall performance? And what do you believe its the main factor/factors for the overall success?
Thank you :)
*their. Education is everything.
“She was incompetent”
You can tell in one day
“Yep she was incompetent”
Straight to the point and so true!
Exactly. People are so used to sugar coating things nowdays, it's nice to see someone who speaks to frankly.
I mean she might be a good teacher after a week, but to be honest, she's not entitled to the job. If she's not doing a good job day one, firing is justified.
And that's the beauty of incompetence, you can see it immediately. We're just used to seeing these idiots teach for 30 years despite everyone knowing they're unfit.
Incompetence in any field can be spotted in a matter of minutes. People who are incompetent at their jobs are always incompetent at everything across the board. I can determine if someone is incompetent by talking to them for 5 minutes.
I love that Principal, not PC at all. Fired in 1 day, he has an eye otherwise he would never get 100% passing scores from those kids. Schools like this should be standard and for less $$$, I call it a win - win. Great for tax payers and wonderful for students
The amount of enthusiasm for helping them learn and find true happiness is so beautiful. This is good
The charter school in my community opened mid year last year. They began here in the middle of the pandemic, and it is one of the best, most positive and encouraging schools I have seen, and I've worked in quite a few. I love charter schools done right.
"Learning is work"
"It don't matter"
I love that kid ahahah.
Brought a tear to my eye. So American.
If the majority of the students would think that way, then we may have a chance for a better tomorrow. Unfortunately, it seems that many schools around the country just want to teach more of the "wokeness" and less of the math, science, reading & writing etc.
"it don't matter" that's just...gross.
Grammar aside, I love that kid. No obstacles. No victimization.
@@abad-enoughdude._.3919 ~ SAME here!!!! 🥲🥲🥰
This is the type of thing REAL teachers love and Union Liberal Political Partisan educators fear. A child having a REAL quality education and not just narratives on a piece of paper is the future. Charter Schools are the best of both world. Much cheaper and much more effective
I live in a town with a good public school. But yet, I put my kids in a 4-12 charter school that opened up 1/2 miles down the road from my house.
My reason was that the public school teacher thought they were God and I don't know what I was talking about.
But yet, I train apprentices in plumbing. That's pretty much teaching But, with grown adults.
The charter school let give let me have a voice and bad teachers were fired.
The principal when I met him said.
"We don't go by a piece of paper, we give the required topics to cover to the teacher let them do what they do and let them get creative. "
I went there when they first opened up and now there's a waiting list to get in.
@@Plumber1111 its folks like you teaching a trade that makes people marketable as soon as they complete their training. My brother does HVAC and was instantly brought on. Didn't crush it money wise at first but then again he didn't know anything. X3 years forward... he's absolutely crushing it. So thank you for being a teacher.
Secondly your correct. If anything positive came out of the Pandemic it's that parents are finally waking up to these activists (not teachers) who only think you can succeed if you go through them... narsacist all day.
The biggest lie was in the 90s that you need a college degree to survive. High Schools let kickback from Colleges based on the amount of kids head to their schools and the government adds fuel to the fire with tax money for unions to become an even more pain in the ass. It's a racket.
Lines at the Charter Schools will continue until they decide to build more. Good Conservative Million and Billionaire class should be signing on to build more imo so we can forever crush this ridiculous narrative you need thr public school system to survive.
Lol ok lady. Teachers are just trash looking for as much pay for the least amount of work. Some rare teachers do put in the effort!
@@one.2622 trying to understand your comment... please elaborate
I just really hope that these teachers are reminded on a daily basis that they are appreciated and essential
Absolutely !
My grandkids go to a classical education charter school. They are getting an excellent education and they learn to reason well. My husband taught in one of their schools for several years after teaching in a very good public school for 25 years and was so pleased with the education he was seeing the kids recieve. We live in a right to work state so you cannot be forced to join a union.
This is why as a public school teacher, I quit to homeschool my children.
So they'll never be smarter than you. Sounds like a vanity project
@@zapkvr sure they will. I am constantly learning new things to teach them beyond things I already knew. Also they are all on track to attend college. It has nothing to do with Vanity and everything to do with giving them a better education than the public school system could ever wish to give.
@@zapkvr You have a nasty attitude and a sad point of view if you can't recognize love and dedication. I'm sorry your parents didn't care for you as much.
@@KathrineJKozachok you missed it entirely. That was one of the best pieces of sarcasm I've seen in a while. You have to remember that there is a mindset of people who are "for Education " as long as those "Educated Fools " know their place. So education has been the political hot potato since the 1950's only the conservatives were oblivious. Hence, we're in the nightmare we're in now.
@@byronhk4197 depends on what you call educated Angela Davis is a Prof at UC Santa Cruse spewing hate is hip and yer a tortured rock star in every class. UNIONS have thugs that "persuade" teachers to keep the farce going. Its money laundering scheme to keep mandatory UNION dues flowing to the left. The "woke" don't get it the " aware" know the "woke" have been used by Marxists for their anger.
Love to see these kids valuing their education.
Turns out less bureaucracy, more freedom for teachers, and the ability to fire an employee who isn't doing a good job makes for a better result? Who knew!
Love the analogy about athletes, she's completely right.
And discipline
Justin, You're right. They knew many decades ago what works. Power, money are their goals. Not educating our children. Home schooling, charter schools are the savior of children's futures. The majority of kids will never have a chance to learn and grow intellectually in a public school. My kids, grand kids have the World by the tail to do whatever they desire because their parents knew the advantages of knowledge in spite of going to public schools.
nonsense, a conservative hit piece convincing fools like you our public education system is bad, going private is better?? lol, their has never been a conservative idea that has lasted the test of time- NOT 1
@@azhardav ummm.... public education, in general, IS bad....
When you have teachers (protected by the union, with NO fear of being fired) lazily 'doing their job' while the students suffer.
I went to public (government) school BUT, I was fortunate enough to attend a smaller school district AND in a time when teachers actually took pride in their work and were also concerned (for the most part) about the students.
I have friends that work in 'union' factories, and from what I've been told over the years (decades), has NOT impressed me in the least when it comes to 'protection'.
@@billwilson2160 effective* discipline
The problem isn't that we don't have enough punishments, it's that we need punishments that are effective. It's like with spanking. It's a punishment, but the question is, is it actually effective?
The solution to public education in the USA is obvious: Charter schools, school choice, vouchers. All things the teacher's union tells us won't work, but there it is, succeeding. Another great video from Stossel.
NO way, most Charter schools want to teach the earth is less than 10,000 years old.
Teachers' Union: "No it doesn't! If it does, then that mean I actually have to try! I don't want to actually work!"
@@jammer6524 Can you even prove your claims? Prove the age of earth?
Hearing about the teacher making her student do pushups reminds me of my drafting teacher in high school. She would give us the option of 50-100 pushups or the principal's office when we acted up. From my experience, it worked well. Students got in less trouble with the powers that be but were still punished for acting up. Plus we had the added benefit of doing something healthy.
Damn that's a lot of push ups 😳 😅
John is an absolute genius journalist
He is? The teachers are unionized in central europe and they have a fantastic educational system. 40 percent of the students sit on the floor in chicago because they don't have desks. Teachers have to pay for school supplies out of their own pay. Property tax is $10000 dollars a year for the average home in Illinois. U.S. government corruption is the reason why u.s. schools are so bad. Mr Stossel is an awful journalist that did not to any research on the subject and is attacking the working people the teachers and their union;while he puts the cash in his pocket from a corporate,elitist controlled news agency
Back in the 80s, in my wealthy college town, my mom, who was acknowledged as the best English teacher in town including the university, worked for years documenting the incompetence of one of her staff. A certain Ms Pfannenstiel, who got in through the back door as it were, when another teacher fell ill. I'm not actually sure if she succeeded before retiring. This woman, made "egregious grammatical errors" yet was teaching office occupations in a post secondary public trade school- Unaccountability is a major problem with any publicly funded job...
Very few young 'mericans' speak English well today. Apparently, the level of English that is being taught in US schools today, is only enough to get the meaning of the sentence across.
'English still isn't common in many parts of the world,
it hasn't been spoken in America for years'
What I noticed when I was in education in CA, was that the teachers who really cared, who chose the profession to help & educate children, most often eventually wound up leaving the public system to teach at charters or privates. Especially those in Special Education where the politics & bureaucracy just beats you down & restricts how much teachers can help kids.
I think there will be, or could be, thousands of teachers commenting here like I am about to do.
My school went "woke". They gave all students the authority to anonymously evaluate teachers, and it was hated. Students, generally, did not want to do it, other than the ones who had grievances, and they wielded enormous power.
I had 1% (approx. 1 out of my 100 students) accuse me one year of, "Mr. X is having sekksual relationships with students". These were 12 and 13 year olds. This was clearly an outlier comment. Do you not think that if it were true that more than one student would know it and report it anonymously at that age? I was threatened with a "forensic investigation". This was the last straw.
In this video, about the 05:00 mark the student used the term "mean". After 25 years of teaching, with no serious mark against me for anything, admin. put me on an "Action Plan" because of a comment I made. I'm not going to say what it was, but I assure you it was harmless. The admin. did not know the backstory to the comment, and made a false assumption. He, the self-proclaimed "social justice warrior," had it in for me since I am conservative. The Action Plan said that if another student made a comment with the word "mean" in it, that I would fail the plan and be fired. Think about that. Strict, demanding responsibility, having standards can be construed as "mean" by a 12 year old. I was called mean for not letting students text friends in other classes.
I was given a text to use in class. Seven teachers, the other 6 women, used this text over about 6 years. It was approved by the principal, and chosen by his wife, the librarian. I didn't read two pages, nor ask the student to, since the previous year I had been disciplined when a parent complained that the text (a section about forced migration), included the terms, "prostitution," and "brothel". Remember, this was assigned to me to use in class, and approved by the very same principal who disciplined me for using it. The next year, I avoided the text, but an avid reader turned to the pages, later went home, and asked her mother what a "brothel" is. Another phone call, another trip to admin., and the explanation that I did not read the text nor assign it, but it didn't matter. I was labeled a "problem" teacher unofficially. It probably happened long before that. I was never openly rude, but I never just went along with the woke initiatives forced on us.
Two months after the above "brothel" issue - the second one - the admin. approved a mural in the hallway of the school : "LGBTQ-GF-PS-TS-++Ally, all spelled out with definitions, over the rainbow. I was threatened with investigation for a one off comment, remember, and disciplined for using an assigned text - that the Director of Learning also told me was appropriate to use.
All this to say, I retired. Good thing I saved my pennies. Education is a disaster these days. You may think that all those horrible "woke" teachers are in the public school, but they are everywhere, and many become administrators.
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Keep the government out of education.
Who's gonna pay for it then?
Sadly after the lockdowns, this is more relevant than ever.
Maybe it's better after lockdowns, aged like fine wine.
I just listened to a long interview with the soon-to-be governor of California Larry Elder and yes, this IS more relevant than ever! We need school choice, more charter or private schools, and way way less powerful teachers unions.
Elect Larry Elder!
"Reading's work, but it's rocking awesome!"
Thanks little man. You made my day.
This is awesome. Who wouldn't want their kids excited to learn. I went to private school and public school and I can say, private schools did more with less. Keep up the good work.
*@John Stossel is so AGELESS it’s impossible to tell if/when he ever blends old footage with the updated and new!*
*Not that it matters… Even as a kid I enjoyed watching him on TV! Some things never change.* 🥰👍
The unions do not advocate for the students, only for the administrators and teachers. They don't care about either quality or quantity as long as their pay comes in regularly.
What a silly blanket statement. Class sizes and program funding are often stumbling blocks in contract negotiations, and most union folks are teachers themselves. Easy scapegoat, though.
Yes those greedy filthy rich teachers are too busy guilding their yachts to care about the students.
@@gst013 So, why are union run public schools failing and charter schools succeeding? Keep it simple so stupid people like me will understand.
Is it the strange magnetic forces that emanate from the Continental Divide? Failure to mandate burkas for the girls? White privilege? Inability for minorities to get photo ID's?
Maybe, failure to provide high quality, effective and relevant fundamental education oriented toward the ability of the student to function in the real world with the goal of providing better products and services while receiving appropriate remuneration?
If you have a modern college education I absolve you of answering this as you have not been educated in such.
@@palmereldritch_6669 The teachers are not the main problem. It's the unions, as I stated in my comment. However, as you've likely been educated in public schools and have a college degree, you were never taught critical thinking and the ability to perceive cause and effect without the help of a Marxist professor.
@@davidwinokur2131 ANd you think a spray tanned buffoon who can't close an umbrella and suggests drinking cleaning products is a remedy to a pandemic is a swell leader. You make me laugh gramps.
"teachers can be fired at the drop of a hat" Hey, welcome to the real world where your job performance is judged by results.
Have you seen some of these tick tock teachers there are a lot of them that deserve it
You are obviously not a teacher.
@@galgamekthegreatlord4823 that's true. But do I really need to be? Just look at the public schools in NYC. Once they're tenured, it's very difficult to fire them. Numerous complaints but very few terminations
@@galgamekthegreatlord4823 Those that can't do, teach.
@@jrr___7902 says someone who was taught to read and write
This is amazing!! We need more schools like this...our kids are thirsty for learning!! These are our future leaders, we must invest in them!! If a teacher is fired, so be it!! This country needs to be SMART again!!!
One of my favorite journalist/reporter-investigator, story-teller, WOW! Just a great, intelligent guy whose "biases" are only based on facts. No GENDER BENDING HERE!!
The education system as a whole needs to realize that the most successful schools get better grades for a reason and should look to those schools as a role model. Great story
The education system is another big government entity concerned only with enriching itself.
@@cheebawobanu like the ccp
Dave- unfortunately that won’t happen because the teachers’ unions are so pent up with pride they will never see the truth
The reason the “most successful schools” get better grades is because they cherry-pick the best students. Public schools, which often serve the most disadvantaged communities, don’t do that…. yet so many folks would, if they could, starve those schools of funding in order to continue to provide advantage to the already advantaged. Stupid In America…. indeed.
@@Gk2003m "most successful schools" generally are NOT public schools. The successful schools focus on the students, not retirement funds.
I was able to get my oldest son into a charter school. It cost 15% less taxpayer dollars and provides a stunningly clear improvement. Sadly next year is his
last year as they only go k-6.
Consider another charter or honeschooling
Unfortunately no other charter School in the area, but we're seriously considering homeschooling or moving.
homeschooling can augment the government school. or replace it entirely whatever works best for you.
I go to a public school in New Jersey and the education is excellent. My school is smart because they don't let people off the hook when they are falling behind. Public schools can be this great, based on what I have experienced, I believe that it truly comes down to the people running the school, from the administration to the teachers.
I taught 39 years - retired from public school and taught in a private school. Public school was a constant interruption with lead abatement education and smokey bear etc. I never felt I could get any teaching done. Then I went to private school and parents only wanted high grades for their children whether they earned them or not. They felt that paying tuition earned their children that right. Who in their right minds would want to teach? Fortunately, I'm done. There are some darn good teachers out there but if you sat down with them their list of frustrations would be a mile long.
Students are much more likely to fail when parents believe that their child's education is primarily the school's responsibility and not theirs.
DING DING DING A WINNER!
All most parents can do is oversee the performance of their childrens teachers and get help for subpar performance in time to get answers for an individual childs difficulties in the education system. Not all parents have a 3rd level education good enough to teach their kids into late secondary school although some have attained that level of education, keeping barely one lesson ahead of their children, this dedication is rare.
Teachers being fired for underperformance is so rare in Ireland that it makes national news. This is a huge problem in education, a lack of accountability and quality control so that some pupils and schools perform better than others leading to increasing levels of inequality in later life.
@@jgdooley2003 it would be great if more parents took responsibility as you are describing. That's exactly what i think is missing that contributes to the difficulties that many students have.
We often hear from teachers unions and the government that parents just don't care. Yet we see parents lined up around the block to try and get their child a better education than the teachers unions or the government want to provide.
@@davidtherwhanger6795 there are certainly many parents that take responsibility. I do think that the unions and the government are concerned about many things other than the children. I know many teachers personally and while I only know a small percentage of the total I have never met a teacher that doesn't do everything in their power to help the children, often in spite of the detrimental interference from the system that they belong to. In the place where I live some parents have lobbied for things like a no homework policy. Some bring frivolous lawsuits that waste time and money. It is much easier to teach the children of caring and involved parents but they are not all like that. When parents see the education of their children more as a partnership with the teacher it is much more successful. When they see it as an adversarial relationship it is destructive for everyone. When the parents of children that need as much help as possible refuse to take any responsibility for their child's education it hurts their children and also the others in their class. Not every parent can teach their child in every subject but they need to help them in any way that they can rather than turning away. The parents that you describe are not part of the problem. They are the ones that should serve as an example to some of the others. The school has a child for a relatively small part of their week and without having parental support for the rest of the time many children won't have much of a chance.
I've seen this video before, but it still brings a tear to my eye. Seeing kids that most schools would have either given up on, or would have catered to by lowering the overall standards, being given a chance to have a future just gets me in the heart. It gives me hope that these kids will be a positive motivating force in our countries future.
Thanks John !! Only Good news I have heard in 6 months !! It gives me Hope, That The USA is not gone, but recovering nicely !! God Bless those Teachers that put the future of our country above their own prosperity, Thank you Teachers !!
I went to country school where the teacher had eight grades to teach plus kindergarten. I learned more at that school than when I was forced to go to public school when the country schools were shut down by the state. I was in fourth grade and I had more reading and math skills than my new schoolmates. Now those schools are gone, but what an education. Only one teacher with all the range of age. I will always remember those kids and my teachers.
The kids love going to these schools because they know the teachers actually care about them and want them to learn. Kids pick up on that.
And they inherently understand that boundaries are good. They are always looking for boundaries.
Absolutely
But there really are a lot of fun, clever, innovative methods which have come out over the past 10 years that makes it easy to learn.
And a major factor, in my opinion, is that these schools empower children by equipping them with academic skills and work ethic-rather than take the power away by telling them they are perpetual victims that cannot accomplish anything without handouts and Affirmative Action in our horrendously racist and sexist country.
Parents need to yank out their kids now and either homeschool or private/charter. Public schools are a ticket to having the dumbest kids globally. They will be well indoctrinated though
@@opalblack879 I agree with you in spirit, but public schools being substandard is far from being a global problem-which makes the situation in the US frustrating to some of us. In many high-performing European nations and Japan, Singapore, etc. public schools ARE good. So, theoretically, the US should be able to accomplish the same. But, no…. Under the name of equity and presumed “poor funding,” we lower expectations-and teach children they should be resentful of this great nation.
My family watched 20/20 religiously in the 80s. Mr Stossel's segments were my favorite part of the show.
Same here…and this is the kind of journalism this country needs more of so badly.
My school have so many superintendents, associate superintendents,principals, assistant principals, associate principles and coaches I think there are more than students.
I agree with this. It should be like this everywhere. Soft teaching of children is harming people.
Unions hate competition and love complacency
Ironic you say that given unions are the sole reason why trade jobs are not shitty, and conservatives push people into trades all the time
@@bluehotdog2610 public sector unions not private sector there is a difference
In times of anxiety, you’ve managed to restore the little amount of faith in humanity I had lost. I know we’re good…. but this makes it better.
@Eat Shnitzel In comparison to what?
@Eat Shnitzel Thanks. So in a sense any story can be manipulated to serve a purpose... hard to trust anything anymore.
@johnstossel You continue to bring real issues to the fore. THANK YOU for being one of the remaining true journalists in a midst of 'reporting by popularism'.
If you haven’t adjusted for inflation, then school funding is actually HALF of what it was in 1970!!!
Great information. Politicians don’t want smart people because they’re not easy to indoctrinate
Hard*
Intellectual people are often easier to indoctrinate by appealing to their sense of superiority and interest in novel ideas. I'd say politicians rather not have people with a firm identity to be able to just lead them around, such as it is in America right now.
@@geomancer6894 not an actual intellectual person. you're more talking the 'educated' types. the distinction is the ability to think for themselves. 'educated' college kids are the best because they're so willing to take in whatever they're told, and think its right because of 'supporting evidence' but dont actually consider the validity. they'll take any lie as long as there's a research paper along side it
@@bradhaines3142 You vastly underestimate the amount of people who appear to "think for themselves" but are driven by base contrarianism and wanting to feel part of a group. Just as liberals like to broadcast how tolerant they are, regardless of any consequences, so will your "free thinkers" get anxious being part of any kind of status quo and feel the need to broadcast their apparent dissatisfaction and openness to earn social praise.
Actually intelligent people are just as easy to indoctrinate as dumb people. It's WISE people that are hard to indoctrinate.
"Devin is 100% on top of her game right now"
Go Devin!
children play, "adults" play games. they being taught how to play games. 'school' as in fish all moving 'as' one = conditioned, programmed. 3:30 winners and losers L, 'sadly, there are many more losers' hahahaha
Nice Alex Grey avatar
Amen!
It’s spelled Devon and I’m not a chick.
@@devonfuginowskinstien7500 Calm down, Devin. Go take a midol.
Don't forget that if a parent cares enough to send their child to a school that is hard to get into, that parent is more likely to be hands-on with their child's education. The parent's role in education is hugely overlooked in the US
Mostly yes, but sometimes no. We pulled our kids out of public schools and put them in private schools (we couldn't afford it - so we sacrificed a lot to do it). We saw many parents that put their kids in private schools because the parents were lazy and wanted the schools to raise their kids - so there was a mix between caring, involved parents and less caring, uninvolved parents. Just as many dysfunctional families too - even the rich have dysfunctional families.
@@tomwessling7065 If those "lazy" parents could afford to send their kids to private school, they could also afford nannies and tutors as well. Most parents at public and charter schools do not have that luxury
I'm a teacher in a public school who believes that school choice makes our education and government systems better. In fact, I would like to see a more level playing field on the collegiate level where private colleges and universities were given the same financial aid opportunities as government-funded schools. CHOICE and COMPETITION raises the bar and makes us better!
I wish Stossel was immortal. His kind of journalism is a gift to humanity.
Then you will like Thomas Sowell as well.
Omg
I just reposted this a stated 'Dont ever leave us, John.'
He is precious to us as is Thomas Sowell and so few others.
@@samuelschick8813 Tom sowell is an American treasure 💎
@@mmmmmhmmm3266 Both are!
I was about to say he's still kind of young and then I looked it up, he's 74! John takes good care of himself.
If you've ever taught at a school, you know your work doesn't end when the clock hand hits 12. These teachers are much happier to get paid being on the clock than being told to go home by a union that doesn't understand work hours doesn't equate to work completed.
Thank you Stossel, some positivity in this world
Dang I really had no clue what a Charter school represented. So much for the presumption that it was some kind of elitist institution. Stossel comes through yet again.
Maybe when you stop teaching kids about gender dysphoria all the time, they might actually learn something productive. What a novel idea. I can't believe someone came up with that!
But then how would they give kids gender dysphoria? Isnt that their goal?
Public schools in the US are not teaching about gender dysphoria, and they definitely weren’t when this very old video was originally recorded.
@@Blubbertube so, you're saying there are varying degrees of not teaching it? They're not teaching it now, and they DEFINITELY weren't teaching it then? Meaning they're only KINDA not teaching it now? wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more
@@robh3007 no, I’m saying that this was not even a common social or political talking point in the United States when the video was recorded. It’s like saying people were definitely NOT teaching how to use an iPhone in 2007, and they still aren’t teaching it now. They have never taught how to use an iPhone in school, but they especially would not have been teaching it in 2007 because it had only just been announced and nobody was teaching students how to use them period. Or a more comparable topic, nobody was teaching sex ed to gay men in public schools in the mid 1900’s, because it was not socially acceptable to discuss period.
@@Blubbertube They might not have been when this video was originally recorded, but they sure as hell are now. And, as early as pre-school. Boys can be girls, and girls can be boys, and some can be both, and sex education, and on and on. A good friend of mine almost wound up in jail, because he confronted the manager of the pre-school on what his daughter was being "taught"... "groomed" is more like it. Needless to say, he decided his daughter was better off not going to pre-school AT ALL. And, this sure as hell is being taught in elementary schools as early as kindergarten ALL over the country. If you don't think so, you are either blind... or WAY behind the times.
Great to see so many parents who value their children's education.
My children were both reading whole books on their own a year before kindergarten. It wasn't work at all, it was fun!
Yes! Finally someone who talks about defunding education
7:31 - the public school teachers’ union, literally demonstrating that they have no shame.
They are bullies and they need to be put in their place. We need to destroy these unions, unions are no longer needed in this country. They just create lazy, incompetent, and irrational people.
My daughter attends a public charter school. She has excelled, and is now taking dual enrollment college classes. She will actually graduate with her first college degree two weeks before her high school graduation. She works hard, and much of that credit goes to the charter school system that fosters her education.
Personal responsibility is EVERYTHING!!
Personal responsibility is everything in every aspect of life, you can accomplish anything if you take responsibility for yourself, have the drive, morals, and self-discipline to work through obstacles rather than take shortcuts or cheat. Victim mentality will get you exactly where you fear you will get, nowhere.
@@jeffb5785 That is bs.
@@Cbd_7ohm You must be a person who thinks you are a victim who can't get ahead, that's why you think what I said is BS. If you are certain you can't get ahead, you certainly won't.
@@jeffb5785 It is just blatantly untrue. Personal effort can only take you so far.
@@Cbd_7ohm Only if you believe you are limited in your mind, don't limit yourself.
Thank you John, I did not know about how great that man is. "She was incompetent". So much WIN!
I left public school at 17, and went to a charter school. It was so much better than, wait for it, Desert Mountain Highschool in Scottsdale, Arizona.
I was able to go to school, learn faster, and work to help support my grandma, and mom.
This is an outstanding educational piece for parents.
These teachers are truly doing God’s work, and these children are an inspiration. 😊😊
god's work? please. god could change this 500 years ago and we wouldn't a damned difference.
That. Is. Awesome! The shine in those kids eyes. The enthusiasm for learning! Wow. That enthusiasm is usually lifelong if instilled at that young age. Tear in my eye over seeing this. Now, THAT is our future right there!
But but but but those kids won't grow up to be angry about every little thing, they will just try harder to earn what they need and want. That's not the angry quitter narrative, that's terrible. jk.
I give these schools so much credit. They're up against a lot of haters. Please don't change or give up.
These teachers and principals are obviously people who care about their jobs, and more importantly, the impact they’re having on these young people!! Let’s lift them up and appreciate them!!!
"You fire people at these schools..."
"They SHOULD be fired!"
What an giga chad response.
God Bless these beautiful children, their Teachers and those who manage Charter Schools.
Just keep god out of these schools. Religion indoctrination belongs at HOME
@@timwarriner842 A lot of what’s wrong with society today is the absence of Gods word.
The one thing missing from this article is the parents. The parents are committed and want their kids to have this educational opportunity. The parents have to sign off on some things that public schools cannot do. It has been proven that kids who have parents that value education do better in class.
I think charter success has a lot has to do with....
1- parent involvement.
2- the kids wanting to go to school and wanting to learn.
You can’t always teach that.
- and the ability to expel and remove students who do not "pull their weight". The reason Success has a 100% passing rate on the 4th grade NYS ELA exam is because all students who struggled were removed by 2nd and 3rd grade.
@@EHou01 Really? Once they win a spot they aren't guaranteed it through...whatever grade they go up to? Or is it they struggle because they don't care or the parents don't care, and they want to open the spot for someone who really wants it?
Yes... there is survivorship bias in this situation.... on the surface it _seems_ as if removal of bureaucracy and motivating teachers by having their jobs in jeopardy produces immaculate improvement in education outcomes... however, as survivorship bias implies, it's what you _don't_ see that makes the difference... that is - that kids who's parents _don't_ stand in line and enter school lotteries are the ones that don't end up in these schools... so their poor performance ends up only in the public school's results. Parental involvement is a HUGE part of successful kids... its cultural value within the family itself. These charter school teachers are teaching the cream of the crop.
3. No teachers union.
@@jonc5152 If it was all about the student/parent commitment, then all those who didn't win the lottery would be on par academic achievers with those who won the lottery slots.
It's not just one key element. Such is my point.
Likewise, a delinquent kid with a deadbeat parent isn't going to become an achiever even if given a shot at a charter school.
An ambitious youngster without parental support might do well if given a shot, and that would be a very interesting thing to observe if possible.
In most cases, the parents probably are the most important factor, but it's exceedingly rare for achievement to happen without some quality in the school (virtually non-existent in public schools with their political agendas). In much more rare cases however, the parent is the least important factor. In every success case, there is the essential need for a youngster to perform, which means to meet or exceed some significant level of expectation.
Breaks my heart to see those parents standing in line to get into one of those schools and not get in. Our education system is horrendous and they know it.
My daughter went to public school. There weren't as many charters a decade ago. And most of her teachers leaned left. Thankfully, she wasn't swayed by her ultra liberal teachers. It wasn't very political at home when she was in grade school but her favorite teachers were the most conservative. Seeing footage of how teachers behave in the classroom, I can see why.
At 74 Johnny is living the dream. Country clubs and day spas seem to be working. Welcome to America 🇺🇸.
I teach in public (government) school. We do a terrible job at educating kids. I wish I could say we do a good job, but I would never send my kids to public school in this country. It's sad. I think homeschooling is the only way to make sure your kids get a good education.
The Unions are more concerned about their political power base than educating the future generations.
Charter schools are focusing on the job we expected them to do: Preparing our kids for the future, and putting some structure into these kids lives.
Unions Suck
@@PFLEONARDI0906 Not per se. The problem is that unions in the US are prime examples of Pournelle's law.
In Germany, unions actively work TOGETHER with the companies to get the most employees working without damaging the company.
It does not work every time, but the most critical point is that unions only intervene in the firing of an employee if the company REALLY oversteps its rights.
@@alfredkugler3043 So true. In the US, most unions seem to create a toxic working environment where the workers and management are adversaries instead of partners. The culture feels more like high school than work because of all the clicks and petty behavior. Worker safety is an afterthought and can be negotiated. That is my observation.
@@OldSaltyBear I just wanted to point out that unions CAN indeed work. But it needs work on all sides for that.
I was a member of Idaho education association and I never got that power hungry vibe!! In this state we need a strong teachers association because our legislature does not value education and cuts funding and latches on to every ignorant thing that pops up. They declined a huge grant from early childhood association because the word socializing(kids) was in their charter ! Socializing children simply means they are learning to be with other kids, to play together, to be in a school setting. Hells bells, we socialize kittens and puppies! IEA, NEA are necessary to run interference! No Child Left Behind and CORE do not recognize different learning styles nor different intelligences, nor what is DEVELOPMENTALLY APPROPRIATE for kindergartners! Discovery, constructive and project learning are all valuable but still not widely utilized because of old farts in legislatures and school boards! Reggio Emilia in Italy is wonderful as is schooling in Finland! Education does not require cruelty!
If a teacher sends a student to perform push ups because he wasnt paying attention nowadays hes gonna be sent to jail. So students just do whatever they want.
no they wouldn't go to jail because the pushups aren't exactly severe humiliation. They would only be punished if the kid happened to have no arms in which the teacher's request/order would violate the Civil Rights Act
@Brandon BP because then the teacher would be fired
In public schools a "time out" is probably inhumane now.
Nice to see some small glimmers of hope in a nation gone mad!
I love how you ask them questions regardless of if you agree with the prompt you are asking or if you don’t agree. You are good at asking nonbiased questions to prove and find truth.
The teachers union in WA worked hard to keep charters from opening and then staying open. After 5 years they finally stopped. My daughter in our low income area got in on the lottery.
This subject hits home for me. I have two kids in a charter school and wife who is a non union teacher in a public school. The problem with our education system is more complicated than just "the unions are bad" or "the students don't want to learn". It's a storm of mistakes and silly bureaucracy. And yes, helicopter parents are a real thing.
Can't imagine, parents having trouble trusting schools and teachers with the most precious part of their lives.
Helicopter parents are out, the new trend is bulldozer parents. Their goal is to clear any obstacles their child may face in life and in doing so the kid never learns to be self sufficient.
My sister, a tenth grade math teacher, walked away from a public school teaching job after fifteen years because she realized it was a broken system that was never going to be fixed. She went to a private college prep high school at two thirds the salary and is still happy there.
@@arklave Oh but it's not okay to blame parents.
Lots of them just look at school as babysitters. Many children start kindergarten with a huge head start, while many have not a clue. Parental involvement doesn't mean just going to Parent Teacher night to bitch about Roscoe or Virginia getting all Ds and blaming the teachers for failing their precious spoiled dumbasses who get no support at home.
Edit: Grammar. 🤦♂️
I had talked to a public school teacher who told me they should shit down charter schools. Her own kids though went to one.
6th grade math class we had to watch Full Metal Jacket, in school. It took 3 days to watch and the “math” was that we had to count how many times they said the F word. Gotta love public school.