Brilliant!!! I didn't see any. But, I used that tactic to get enough landscaping timbers at about a buck each to make a doghouse. I cut out notches like lincoln logs and deck screwed them together. Didn't even lose a shingle in Hurrican Ike!
I love how you are pouring into us new gardeners!! Been a follower for quite a while and wanted to say thank you for pouring love into us during this stressful time. My son and I are learning where we are at, and we are loving your videos!! ♥️♥️
1:56 The BEST side to plant on your trellis depends on what direction your trellis faces in relation to the path of the sun where you are. Remember that your plants will reach towards the sun! For those in the northern hemisphere you will want to plant on the north side of the trellis so that the plants grow TOWARDS the sun and INTO the trellis instead of initially growing away from the trellis. The opposite goes for those in the southern hemisphere,, you will want to plant on the southern side of the trellis. ** If you are trying to grow plants on a slanted trellis, and this might seem counterintuitive, but you will want your trellis slanted TOWARDS the sun so that your plants can "climb" the trellis while reaching towards the sun instead of you having to spend time to "train" them against they way they want to naturally grow. It really really really helps to support the stalks!!
So I was watching this video and saw your irrigation pipe/tape and realized "ON NO! I LEFT THE WATER ON AT MY PARENTS GARDEN ... *FOUR HOURS AGO*!!! I flew out of my chair and drove like a mad man the five miles to the ranch HQ and ... mom had alredy turned it off. Whew! Good 'ol mom.
Please Please write a “how to” book. It would be a best seller. You have helped me with my garden so much. However I forget half of hat you say since I am older. Would be great to have written instructions. You and family are amazing.
She needs to write a book on Tomato 🍅 seed collection addiction!!!! Complete with pic and story for each seed and how she collected and grew them! Hahaha
I’ve started a note book and take notes from the great wisdom Jessie, Melissa K Norris and Homesteading Family share. These folks all have so much on their plates that I feel it’s my responsibility to make a book for myself. I couldn’t ever publish it because it’s not my knowledge but it’s a great resource should I not be able to find it online. .
i know you weren’t the first person to do this but you are a BIG reason why growing on cattle panels is so popular. as always thank you for sharing your journey💜
Tractor Supply has these panels out on the sides of their building in the fencing area, all laid out for you to pick whatever sizes you want. As posted before, there are shorter ones, which I plan on using with my 4 X 8 ft beds and the long ones for arch trellis. Lowes has these out in the fencing... and you know what.. Walmart in some areas have them.
Here in Australia if you want to replicate this trellis you need to get Rio Grid or Mesh. Here in Oz a cattle panel is something completely different and you would never bend it in a million years. … also the T bars I think you called them are called “star pickets” here (Awesome information - thank you!)
I've watched nearly all your videos Jess. I can't thank you enough! Do you ha e a video on how you created your irrigation system for watering? That would greatly help me! Thanks
Confirmed bending them into a 6.5' truck bed can be done. 2 people to bend and lift over the tailgate. 4 or 5 is about the limit as you have to bend them all at once.
I just watched your infinitely more devotional video. I nearly brought me to tears, God has used this garden, this hope, this vision to enrich your faith. And the amazing thing, is that heaven is infinitely more than we will ever have on earth!
as always great informational video. as for the cattle panel wire gauge it is common 4 gauge wire. i grown my own garden vegetables for the last 45 plus years. first time i commented on a video. been watching for years . god bless,
Frank, to me I would think trellising N to S is best because the sun is E to W...it would get sun pretty evenly. If you trellised E to W, sun is E to W..the panel would get more sun on the sides of the trellis, maybe?
Mine is attached S to N and I walk through E to W!! It looks great in garden that is out in open. It will get even sun all around. I planted E to W this year. With squashes on W side away from the rest of the plantings.
Cali-Kim actually rolled them and fit them in the back of an suv... takes 2 people to get them rolled. I live in farm country and they sell for $26 each here. Of course, they went on sale to $21 the day after I bought mine. 😉
If you have something hanging out the back of your truck bed just tie a red rag on the part hanging out and you are legal to haul it home that way. I found two panels on the bad fencing of our big animal pen I didn’t measure them but I think the smaller one is 8ft. We drug them over to the garden and I have cucumbers planted for the shortest one and gourds for the bigger one. I also arched the bigger one over my asparagus bed to provide more shade on that bed and I have my lettuce growing in that bed also, so hopefully my lettuce won’t bolt as quickly when it really starts to get hot here.
In Canada, our "cattle pannels" are called 9 gauge wire mesh. They are 7 ft long and 3.5 ft wide. Zip tie 2 end to end (over lap a little) to get the long version. They are $16.84 at Home Depot. Model number 438743.
In Alberta, at UFA & Peavey Mart they are called "cattle panels", "hog panels", "horse panels", "galvanized fence panels" in sizes of 34 inches wide up to 60 inches wide and 16 feet wide with prices starting at $50. There was also one 34 inches x 8 feet for $37.
I have grown 8' "MBombo" beans from Baker Creek on my trellis. I put one seed at every wire also . My husband and I have many meals throughout the summer, sold a few bread bags for the farmer's market, and left the last flush dry.........got a quart and a half of dried shucked beans. Very beautiful and bountiful.
I've been linking your older video to my friends who ask me about vertical gardening. We installed a "trellis" with fencing because I don't have a truck and couldn't get cattle panels home, but the trellis was inspired by your garden! Thank you for all your tips and tricks during this time, they've been super helpful for our family, and now I'm giving away a ton of extra plant starts to my neighbors so they can use them too!
You really inspired me when you said your waiting room can be a learning space! We dont own so we are doing kiddie pool planting! I'm so excited! They fit so much more than youd think!
Does anyone know if you have to worry about cross pollinationlina with having the different varieties so close together? Jess, I found your videos tonight and I've been watching them for hours. My family and I are moving to a place with more land and a bit excitement I have is to expand our garden. I will for sure be watching more of your videos. Thanks so much for all you do.
I'm growing my cherry tomatoes in one this year. Last year I did a florida weave six feet high. The plants grew up six feet , went iver the trellis and grew six feet downward! Hoping it works
Hi Jess, I am wondering if these kinds of trellises work just as good when growing in the ground. Are there any differences to be aware of that I might not think of? Thanks!
Have you ever used sunflowers or okra as a trellis/support for pole beans? We only had room for 1 cattle panel and my melons and cucumber are growing on that but I want to grow some pole beans. We couldn't get the 16 foot panel home on the minivan lol. We did the 8 footers and attached in the middle.
My kid took a handful of my mixed dried beans last year. She got nervous with the reports of shortages in the store.. Maybe 1/8 of a cup. She worked her ass off. Sprouted them, weeded it watered it. Her yield was 2 cups of mostly red and black beans. Fortunately she thought that was tons. This year we helped her pick out good seeds she can have fun with like a popcorn variety, 3 color mixed green beans and colorful bell peppers. Im so excited for her, its going to work out so much better
I put 3 pieces of wood (12 ft long) across the top of my luggage rack on my SUV and zip tied them down equally spread apart and drove home with 4 (16 ft long) cattle panels zip tied to the top of my SUV. :) Went pretty slow early one morning but got them home. :)
I didn't have access to a 16' trailer and thought we would have to cut them in half.. but talking to Tractor Supply in Nixa Mo. they told me we just needed a pickup truck, they would get them in. They loaded them in to the back of the bed and picked up the back (with a fork lift) and stood them up just like they would be in the garden.. and closed the tail-gait... Was a little work as we bought 10 and the normal load is 5. facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2790423931025782&set=pcb.2790424291025746&type=1&theater very happy now! thank you for the ideas.. keep them coming :)
Thanks for that Jess. Everyone give a thumbs-up!. I just use the cattle panels place on their edge and staked. I don't think my wife would think the Arches are aesthetically pleasing! I also have one panel of a dog kennel that I grow Vining things up. I am in an HOA restricted urban community so I try to keep things from showing Too Much from the street. LOL
I have an HOA too though it is a weaker one than most. My whole garden is in front since that's where we have sun. The whole front yard is woodchipped, so I need to be more aware of aesthetics since we are already standing out. I'd suggest a big long row of show stopper flowers & shrubs along the front edge. Showy flowers tend to win people over. In addition we go heavy on the flowers throughout. For example nasturtiums have great flowers but we eat the greens so it's a pleaser for passers by but also useful as food and also companion planting.
I can not believe you posted this update today. I just an hour ago came home with my fencing and poles to get started on our trellis between our two raised beds. Thank you so much! I also brought home some 55 gal drums to cut in half and make planters. FUN!
Thank you Jess, I’ve been questioning wether I could put cucumbers on the inside and noodle beans on the outside of my cattle panel, and you answered that quite nicely.. you always know what to cover and when. Your the best!❤️❤️❤️🌻🌸
Bending cattle panels into a teardrop shape makes them fit easily into a small (Toyota Tacoma) truck bed. We got them at Tractor Supply last year, and the guy working there knew exactly how to fit them in and it was super easy! No problem at all. You can get at least 5 or 6 in one trip that way, maybe more!
I'm planning on planting beans on the outside of the trellis this year and morning glories on the inside, for aesthetic purposes, as it will be our walkway to our home. We're starting with one trellis to see how it does this year before adding more. Do you think the morning glories will choke out the beans? Is there another climbing flower you could suggest for the inside rows?
@rootsandrefugefarm thank you so much for all your videos-such a gift! I may or maynot have shoved 4 cattle pannels into our 12 passenger van (tow-strap holding the back doors semi-closed)...it worked! Got them home! 👊💪Although, I wouldn't encourage this method!😉 Can't wait to make one a larger arch (1 & 1/2 ziptied) so we can dine under it too!😍 Thank you again! May the Lord bless you all!!
❤you are an absolute treasure! Great video! These really are a game changer especially for people with limited space. Seeing your original video on this really opened up my creative gardening mind.
In Tennessee at Tractor Supply, I found and purchased 2 of the 14ft cattle panels or livestock panels for $14.99 each and they had the longer ones for $22.99. I am planning to use the shorter ones for my tomatoes and the longer ones to trellis my cucumber plants and grapes on in an arch design. Thank you for your tips, I have gained a lot of insight into various techniques from you. I truly appreciate the information you publish.
Do you have any recommendations for small gardens, where the cattle panels would just be too huge? I’d like to use something similar. They seem better than tomato cages.
did you see her older video? she has examples of different panels (dog/hog/chicken wire) and even some gates and bed frames, i believe. it was from 2018, i think. search "complete guide vertical gardening"
We love our cattle panel arches- Full of garden goodies-Thank You Jess! ps- we had a race (worlds slowest lol) with the purple and green vining beans- one on each side! PPS - we strapped them arched in the trailer and was easy enough
Great video. At our Tractor Supply in Moore, Oklahoma the panels are called feedlot panels. We just brought 25 home last weekend strapped to a headache rack on the top of a truck. They’re $24.99 each but if you buy 25 you get a quantity discount of 5%. They are very thick, we are working on getting them installed this weekend!
Hi Jess, Gardner Scott has a great video for trellising tomato plants in the arch. I tried it last year and worked great. Twine is hung down from top and the plants grow up the twine. Check it out.! Thanks for putting so much heart ❤️ into your content.
Thank you Jess! I learn so much from you. I'm planning to make a trellis out of Koa tree branches, for a vine plant called Pakalana. A Hawaiian plant we make Lei's, out of the fragrant flower. Aloha!🌺
Thank you so much for this video. I'm adding cattle panels to my garden this year inspired by you and you answered a bunch of questions I didn't know I had, even after watching your earlier video. We have a small Toyota Tacoma and were able to fold one panel at a time in the bed, so we had to make four trips for the four panels we need. That was the biggest issue for us and I'm relieved we solved it. The panels ended up staying bent when we got home, but it's ok since they are going to be arches anyway. I can't wait to install these and watch my garden grow over them. Really, thank you for all you offer. My garden learning grows exponentially faster and my inspiration soars from watching you in your garden.
$30/panel in NE in 2024- I finally got my first two panels! Excited to set them up! Thanks for the continued videos and sharing your valuable knowledge ❤️🙏🏽✨
You're totally right about the terminalogy issue. Here in S.E. Texas the guy on the other side of the phone didn't know "cattle panel" his catalogue had something like "galvanized heavy gauge trellis / panel 4' X 16" 6 Gauge wire mesh" either way, it's the same thing.
You can save money when your boxes are wood by replacing the T- posts with screws. I’ve put my 4x4 boxes (2) with a 2 foot walkway through the middle . Then I took long wood screws (3) on each board, spaced. Then anchored the cattle panels with the screws. I have no issues. It could work according to your setup. Those t posts are expensive! ❤ from Walterboro SC
I am very excited to try using arched trellises this year. Can anyone tell me approximately how many squash plants I could put on a 50" x 16' arched trellis? I was hoping to do 1 each butternut, acorn, spaghetti and zucchini. I know that the zuke will need tied and that I may need to support the larger fruits. Thanks and love the videos!
Our town is set up so wonky. I live 2 blocks from the major city park. I also love like 6 blocks from our commercial farm feed and supply store. We don't have a truck. My husband and brother in law walked our panels home. Hahahahaha. My son is so excited for watermelons. I have basically planted snacks all over my yard. I dont plan on feeding my kids this summer. Hahaha
Hello! Does anyone here know where we can get cattle panels in New Zealand? Cattle panels in NZ are very different to those listed here. They are more like gate/fences and are super thick and cannot be bent. Perhaps it's called something else in NZ/Aussie? I hear Australia has a similar thing going on. I would love to make these for my new garden that I am digging up. I have been searching for these for months without any luck! I can only find the wire mesh products in stores which will not be strong enough to be arched trellises. :( 🥲 losing hope over here...
If creating an arch with only 1 t-post per side, how tall are the t-posts, and do you place the cattle panel at ground level or do you raise that from the ground 16-18"? LOVING your videos!
I currently have 4 x 8 raised gardens beds. Do I need that much ground space to grown things like different squash, melons, zucs and cucs? If the plants are basically growing vertically, can I grow things like bush beans in the 4 x 8 area underneath the trellis or would the area be too shaded? Other than lettuces do you have any thoughts on what I could use the vacant area underneath the trellis for? Thanks Kathy
I'm going to use some old porch railing to grow pumpkins, loofa, Watermelon. I have a couple questions , should I string twine or metal through it to create a "net"? I wondered about fairytale pumpkins if it was worthwhile to grow them vertically. Maybe something off the ground but low to the ground where they rest on top? I could use some sort of pallet wood structure the height of a dog house and let it Vine out. What are your thoughts? Thanks for your channel.
"Cattle Panel Math" Most of us know about "chicken math" :-) , so let's take a more in depth look at cattle panel math: Cost per 4 linear feet per raised bed = $10 (if 8 foot panels cost $20 each) If we have 2 raised beds that are each 8 feet long and we are arching a trellis along the entire length of the beds it will cost $40 for the cattle panels plus the cost of T bars or other support poles and strapping. Let's call it $50. If you plant 2 plants per 4 feet on each side of the trellis you will need to grow $50 of food from 8 plants in order to "break even" from your yield the first year if you are only to get one crop from each panel. And this does not include any costs for dirt or nutrients, or the beds themselves! Growing on arched cattle panels is an INVESTMENT. PLEASE do not think that going out and spending $200 on cattle panels so that you can grow 32 vegetable plants is going to help you while getting started!! Even if you are a seasoned gardener, spending $10 every 2 plants on "supports" isn't the most efficient way to garden UNLESS you have very limited space and are in it for the long run and KNOW that you are going to use the panels over and over and over and over again. There are better ways. Happy Gardening!
@@tdespres To each their own! I personally think a lot of trelliseses look absolutely amazing, but it won't change the amount that it costs. Happy Gardening!
I use cattle panel trellis for blackberry and tomatoes and also have hoop trellis, I built the hoop trellis with two panels making it 108" (9ft) long. the front and back bottom opening of the trellis is 8' wide and the height is 76". I built raised beds inside the trellis. This allows the trellis to be covered with plastic in the colder months and serve as a greenhouse or large cold frame to grow greens, veggies in pots, or store other potted plants.
Is there a best direction to put your arches to get proper sun light? How far apart should the arches be in order to not over shade? I live in the 110°+ dry desert and don’t know how to balance plants getting enough but not too much Sun ☀️
Concrete rebar should work. The only thing is, those panels rust the moment you buy them if not before, so you'd have to paint them with something appropriate.
I'd really like to try out the cattle panel method of verticle gardening. Do you recommend a specific thickness to the wire? Here in the UK the thickest I've been able to find is 2.5mm, and that's only one end of the wire (it gets thinner towards to bottom of the fence). I presume anything too thin won't provide much support for when the plants get weighty? Thanks
I just got my cattle panels home. Minivan on the roof with ratchet straps and flag ties. You are rubbing off on Iowa people we were not the only ones buying them. So you would plant say a small melon on the inside and a tomato on the outside? We bought enough to have two trellis between each of the three beds but now I'm wondering if I should scratch one of those and just run it along the outside of the outermost bed and grow the tomatoes up that
farm & home arched 2 -16ft in my truck not tied in, no trouble. said they have done up to 16 at a time at there most. you could tie them in if you were going very far.
Sometimes when I hear that people ask if you can plant different things on each side of the trellis, I wonder if they actually mean one thing on the top (outside) of the trellis and another on the underside (inside) of the trellis, not realizing that the plants will cross through and go wherever they want (and that one might shade the other too much if they plant on both the inside and outside).
The Citystead’s video on trellises when you don’t have a truck: th-cam.com/video/HBMxUNZgc80/w-d-xo.html
I love that he's wearing a Roots and Refuge t-shirt in this version of the video. th-cam.com/video/yWhkz1tjK7k/w-d-xo.html
get the damaged cattle panels from tractor supply. they sell them half price.
🤩 best tip ever!!
Awesome tip! My store is out of them with COVID-19, so we have to order. Maybe next time!
I've done it! They have me $10 off
Brilliant!!! I didn't see any. But, I used that tactic to get enough landscaping timbers at about a buck each to make a doghouse. I cut out notches like lincoln logs and deck screwed them together. Didn't even lose a shingle in Hurrican Ike!
@@mattpeacock5208 Hi
I love how you are pouring into us new gardeners!! Been a follower for quite a while and wanted to say thank you for pouring love into us during this stressful time. My son and I are learning where we are at, and we are loving your videos!! ♥️♥️
1:56 The BEST side to plant on your trellis depends on what direction your trellis faces in relation to the path of the sun where you are. Remember that your plants will reach towards the sun! For those in the northern hemisphere you will want to plant on the north side of the trellis so that the plants grow TOWARDS the sun and INTO the trellis instead of initially growing away from the trellis. The opposite goes for those in the southern hemisphere,, you will want to plant on the southern side of the trellis.
** If you are trying to grow plants on a slanted trellis, and this might seem counterintuitive, but you will want your trellis slanted TOWARDS the sun so that your plants can "climb" the trellis while reaching towards the sun instead of you having to spend time to "train" them against they way they want to naturally grow. It really really really helps to support the stalks!!
I’ve been trying to puzzle this out myself, and your comment finally made it click for me! HUGE thank you!
@@Aaakeith You are very welcome! Happy gardening!
So I was watching this video and saw your irrigation pipe/tape and realized "ON NO! I LEFT THE WATER ON AT MY PARENTS GARDEN ... *FOUR HOURS AGO*!!! I flew out of my chair and drove like a mad man the five miles to the ranch HQ and ... mom had alredy turned it off. Whew! Good 'ol mom.
Our tractor supply calls them feed lot panels for anyone having issues
Same here
I went with hog panels bc I can move them on my own
The one I just got is rolled.... do you think that will work.
Tractor Supply in PA, calls them cattle panels! Hahahaha
Thank you!
That was very helpful!
They're a 4 gauge wire if anyone was wondering.. pretty tough.
Please Please write a “how to” book. It would be a best seller. You have helped me with my garden so much. However I forget half of hat you say since I am older. Would be great to have written instructions. You and family are amazing.
She needs to write a book on Tomato 🍅 seed collection addiction!!!! Complete with pic and story for each seed and how she collected and grew them! Hahaha
I’ve started a note book and take notes from the great wisdom Jessie, Melissa K Norris and Homesteading Family share. These folks all have so much on their plates that I feel it’s my responsibility to make a book for myself. I couldn’t ever publish it because it’s not my knowledge but it’s a great resource should I not be able to find it online. .
i know you weren’t the first person to do this but you are a BIG reason why growing on cattle panels is so popular. as always thank you for sharing your journey💜
"It doesn't amount to a hill of beans"🤣🤣
LOL!!
Tractor Supply has these panels out on the sides of their building in the fencing area, all laid out for you to pick whatever sizes you want. As posted before, there are shorter ones, which I plan on using with my 4 X 8 ft beds and the long ones for arch trellis. Lowes has these out in the fencing... and you know what.. Walmart in some areas have them.
I’m so glad I just got mine before the store closed by me. I must have rewatched that old video 7 times😂
Here in Australia if you want to replicate this trellis you need to get Rio Grid or Mesh. Here in Oz a cattle panel is something completely different and you would never bend it in a million years. … also the T bars I think you called them are called “star pickets” here (Awesome information - thank you!)
I've watched nearly all your videos Jess. I can't thank you enough! Do you ha e a video on how you created your irrigation system for watering? That would greatly help me! Thanks
That’s coming soon!
Me too! Really wanting to see this!
Confirmed bending them into a 6.5' truck bed can be done. 2 people to bend and lift over the tailgate. 4 or 5 is about the limit as you have to bend them all at once.
They also tend to release all of that potential energy all at once, when unloading .. so BE CAREFUL!!
Jason Avers haha, learned that the hard way. Easy in, sort of. Nearly disabled me for gardening getting off!
My husband got it done with our minivan 😁 . He only bought me one so it's a little easier
the chimes approve.. lol.. pretty music to accompany your information.
The devil is trying to murder my plants & I am not pleased. It hit 45° Monday and it’s 90° outside right now. Pick a season Texas!
I just watched your infinitely more devotional video. I nearly brought me to tears, God has used this garden, this hope, this vision to enrich your faith. And the amazing thing, is that heaven is infinitely more than we will ever have on earth!
Jess, just to let you know, yesterday I bungied down cattle panels to my Prius.
as always great informational video. as for the cattle panel wire gauge it is common 4 gauge wire. i grown my own garden vegetables for the last 45 plus years. first time i commented on a video. been watching for years . god bless,
Tractor Supply has them for usually a good price
I always love your cattle panel videos! 😄 You are a treasure, Jess... Thank you for the value you bring the world. 🤍
Thanks for the extra info! Also, I found the panels by calling them stockade panels/stockade fence!
I just inspired many of my people around me to start growing with arched trellises #ThankYouJess #MyFavoriteHomesteadinLady #RootsAndRefugeForever
Going to try panels this year and was hoping someone would put out a video on them. Thank you♥️
you will love the panels! we do!
Love it. One missed question 🙋🏼♀️🙋🏼♀️🙋🏼♀️For sun light is it better to put the trellis north to couch or east to west? Thanks sooo much!
I am wondering the same thing. Is it better for them to go from north to south or east to west?
Frank, to me I would think trellising N to S is best because the sun is E to W...it would get sun pretty evenly. If you trellised E to W, sun is E to W..the panel would get more sun on the sides of the trellis, maybe?
TKA Art when you say trellising N to S would that mean you can walk through it N to S or E to W?
@@AHG-im4cs walk through n to s is what I was told
Mine is attached S to N and I walk through E to W!! It looks great in garden that is out in open. It will get even sun all around. I planted E to W this year. With squashes on W side away from the rest of the plantings.
I just received two more panels as a birthday present. I can't wait to get them set up
Cali-Kim actually rolled them and fit them in the back of an suv... takes 2 people to get them rolled. I live in farm country and they sell for $26 each here. Of course, they went on sale to $21 the day after I bought mine. 😉
Fantastic video... I have 6 cattle panels trellis...love them..tractor supply..$23 in VA
If you have something hanging out the back of your truck bed just tie a red rag on the part hanging out and you are legal to haul it home that way. I found two panels on the bad fencing of our big animal pen I didn’t measure them but I think the smaller one is 8ft. We drug them over to the garden and I have cucumbers planted for the shortest one and gourds for the bigger one. I also arched the bigger one over my asparagus bed to provide more shade on that bed and I have my lettuce growing in that bed also, so hopefully my lettuce won’t bolt as quickly when it really starts to get hot here.
In Canada, our "cattle pannels" are called 9 gauge wire mesh. They are 7 ft long and 3.5 ft wide. Zip tie 2 end to end (over lap a little) to get the long version. They are $16.84 at Home Depot. Model number 438743.
In Alberta, at UFA & Peavey Mart they are called "cattle panels", "hog panels", "horse panels", "galvanized fence panels" in sizes of 34 inches wide up to 60 inches wide and 16 feet wide with prices starting at $50. There was also one 34 inches x 8 feet for $37.
I just bought those same panels today, in Ontario Canada, for $22.74.
That pricing was for the Home Depot panels.I was at the local Feed Store, and the 16 foot long ones were $91.00 each.
I have grown 8' "MBombo" beans from Baker Creek on my trellis. I put one seed at every wire also . My husband and I have many meals throughout the summer, sold a few bread bags for the farmer's market, and left the last flush dry.........got a quart and a half of dried shucked beans. Very beautiful and bountiful.
I've been linking your older video to my friends who ask me about vertical gardening. We installed a "trellis" with fencing because I don't have a truck and couldn't get cattle panels home, but the trellis was inspired by your garden!
Thank you for all your tips and tricks during this time, they've been super helpful for our family, and now I'm giving away a ton of extra plant starts to my neighbors so they can use them too!
You really inspired me when you said your waiting room can be a learning space! We dont own so we are doing kiddie pool planting! I'm so excited! They fit so much more than youd think!
Does anyone know if you have to worry about cross pollinationlina with having the different varieties so close together?
Jess, I found your videos tonight and I've been watching them for hours. My family and I are moving to a place with more land and a bit excitement I have is to expand our garden. I will for sure be watching more of your videos. Thanks so much for all you do.
I'm growing my cherry tomatoes in one this year. Last year I did a florida weave six feet high. The plants grew up six feet , went iver the trellis and grew six feet downward! Hoping it works
Hi Jess, I am wondering if these kinds of trellises work just as good when growing in the ground. Are there any differences to be aware of that I might not think of? Thanks!
Have you ever used sunflowers or okra as a trellis/support for pole beans? We only had room for 1 cattle panel and my melons and cucumber are growing on that but I want to grow some pole beans.
We couldn't get the 16 foot panel home on the minivan lol. We did the 8 footers and attached in the middle.
My kid took a handful of my mixed dried beans last year. She got nervous with the reports of shortages in the store.. Maybe 1/8 of a cup. She worked her ass off. Sprouted them, weeded it watered it. Her yield was 2 cups of mostly red and black beans. Fortunately she thought that was tons. This year we helped her pick out good seeds she can have fun with like a popcorn variety, 3 color mixed green beans and colorful bell peppers. Im so excited for her, its going to work out so much better
I put 3 pieces of wood (12 ft long) across the top of my luggage rack on my SUV and zip tied them down equally spread apart and drove home with 4 (16 ft long) cattle panels zip tied to the top of my SUV. :) Went pretty slow early one morning but got them home. :)
I didn't have access to a 16' trailer and thought we would have to cut them in half.. but talking to Tractor Supply in Nixa Mo. they told me we just needed a pickup truck, they would get them in. They loaded them in to the back of the bed and picked up the back (with a fork lift) and stood them up just like they would be in the garden.. and closed the tail-gait... Was a little work as we bought 10 and the normal load is 5. facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2790423931025782&set=pcb.2790424291025746&type=1&theater very happy now! thank you for the ideas.. keep them coming :)
Thanks for that Jess. Everyone give a thumbs-up!. I just use the cattle panels place on their edge and staked. I don't think my wife would think the Arches are aesthetically pleasing! I also have one panel of a dog kennel that I grow Vining things up. I am in an HOA restricted urban community so I try to keep things from showing Too Much from the street. LOL
I have an HOA too though it is a weaker one than most. My whole garden is in front since that's where we have sun. The whole front yard is woodchipped, so I need to be more aware of aesthetics since we are already standing out. I'd suggest a big long row of show stopper flowers & shrubs along the front edge. Showy flowers tend to win people over. In addition we go heavy on the flowers throughout. For example nasturtiums have great flowers but we eat the greens so it's a pleaser for passers by but also useful as food and also companion planting.
Perfect timing! I’m getting 10 cattle panels tomorrow 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
linda williams my dream❤️
I can not believe you posted this update today. I just an hour ago came home with my fencing and poles to get started on our trellis between our two raised beds. Thank you so much! I also brought home some 55 gal drums to cut in half and make planters. FUN!
Thank you Jess, I’ve been questioning wether I could put cucumbers on the inside and noodle beans on the outside of my cattle panel, and you answered that quite nicely.. you always know what to cover and when. Your the best!❤️❤️❤️🌻🌸
Bending cattle panels into a teardrop shape makes them fit easily into a small (Toyota Tacoma) truck bed. We got them at Tractor Supply last year, and the guy working there knew exactly how to fit them in and it was super easy! No problem at all. You can get at least 5 or 6 in one trip that way, maybe more!
Debbie Flores good to know!!!!!
I'm planning on planting beans on the outside of the trellis this year and morning glories on the inside, for aesthetic purposes, as it will be our walkway to our home. We're starting with one trellis to see how it does this year before adding more. Do you think the morning glories will choke out the beans? Is there another climbing flower you could suggest for the inside rows?
Morning glory will choke out anything. And you wont be able to get rid of it. Never would plant it on my property.
@rootsandrefugefarm thank you so much for all your videos-such a gift!
I may or maynot have shoved 4 cattle pannels into our 12 passenger van (tow-strap holding the back doors semi-closed)...it worked! Got them home! 👊💪Although, I wouldn't encourage this method!😉
Can't wait to make one a larger arch (1 & 1/2 ziptied) so we can dine under it too!😍
Thank you again! May the Lord bless you all!!
i took your advise and bought a cattle panel for a trellis. cost in my area was 21.99 plus tax. not bad
13:25 FYI 16' x 50" 4 Gauge. www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/feedlot-panel-cattle-16-ft-l-x-50-in-h
We were able to get them delivered from the local feed store.
Tricia Smith even better!!!!
We just put some cattle panel trellises up last weekend! I referenced your videos many times to design it!
❤you are an absolute treasure! Great video! These really are a game changer especially for people with limited space. Seeing your original video on this really opened up my creative gardening mind.
I’m building my raised beds this year and I’m so excited to try and build these trellises
In Tennessee at Tractor Supply, I found and purchased 2 of the 14ft cattle panels or livestock panels for $14.99 each and they had the longer ones for $22.99. I am planning to use the shorter ones for my tomatoes and the longer ones to trellis my cucumber plants and grapes on in an arch design. Thank you for your tips, I have gained a lot of insight into various techniques from you. I truly appreciate the information you publish.
Yay! Thank you for posting this follow up video for faqs. :)
Do you have any recommendations for small gardens, where the cattle panels would just be too huge? I’d like to use something similar. They seem better than tomato cages.
did you see her older video? she has examples of different panels (dog/hog/chicken wire) and even some gates and bed frames, i believe. it was from 2018, i think. search "complete guide vertical gardening"
We love our cattle panel arches- Full of garden goodies-Thank You Jess! ps- we had a race (worlds slowest lol) with the purple and green vining beans- one on each side! PPS - we strapped them arched in the trailer and was easy enough
I FEEL SO MUCH SMARTER WATCHING YOUR VIDEOS... THANK YOU
Great video. At our Tractor Supply in Moore, Oklahoma the panels are called feedlot panels. We just brought 25 home last weekend strapped to a headache rack on the top of a truck. They’re $24.99 each but if you buy 25 you get a quantity discount of 5%. They are very thick, we are working on getting them installed this weekend!
i just happen to have 3 of these around the house, totally making arches tomorrow.
Almost 4 years ago I ran into your video with your cattle panels and bought my first one because of you !
Love the wind chimes.relaxing.
Hi Jess, Gardner Scott has a great video for trellising tomato plants in the arch. I tried it last year and worked great. Twine is hung down from top and the plants grow up the twine. Check it out.! Thanks for putting so much heart ❤️ into your content.
Thank you Jess! I learn so much from you. I'm planning to make a trellis out of Koa tree branches, for a vine plant called Pakalana. A Hawaiian plant we make Lei's, out of the fragrant flower. Aloha!🌺
They have withstood hurricanes and tropical storms with zero problems
Wow, that's sturdy!
Thank you so much for this video. I'm adding cattle panels to my garden this year inspired by you and you answered a bunch of questions I didn't know I had, even after watching your earlier video. We have a small Toyota Tacoma and were able to fold one panel at a time in the bed, so we had to make four trips for the four panels we need. That was the biggest issue for us and I'm relieved we solved it. The panels ended up staying bent when we got home, but it's ok since they are going to be arches anyway. I can't wait to install these and watch my garden grow over them. Really, thank you for all you offer. My garden learning grows exponentially faster and my inspiration soars from watching you in your garden.
Need more cow bells...err cow panels.
So excited to see this video. I recently put up some arch trellises
These panels are $80-100 each in Canada. I bought 4 last year and it was painful.
Can you link what you bought and where?
@@chrys77cross cattle panels from TSC or Peaveymart $70ish
hill of beans....giggle, giggle......
Hey Jess! Is the video on which tomato varieties you started still coming??
I always feel blessed by your videos (especially when I'm in the top 20 comments)
Hauling home - husband recently zip tied ends together, then rope tied to roof of pickup and canopy. Panel was in a tear shape. Worked fine.
Love the planting space and esthetic advice!!! I like things symmetrical too - so thanks a bunch!
We have a Family Farm & Hobby Store that sells them for $19.99, Tractor Supply sells them for $21.99-$50... this is in Northeast Ohio.
$30/panel in NE in 2024- I finally got my first two panels! Excited to set them up! Thanks for the continued videos and sharing your valuable knowledge ❤️🙏🏽✨
You're totally right about the terminalogy issue. Here in S.E. Texas the guy on the other side of the phone didn't know "cattle panel" his catalogue had something like "galvanized heavy gauge trellis / panel 4' X 16" 6 Gauge wire mesh" either way, it's the same thing.
Lol, "hill of beans", you are awesome 😂
You can save money when your boxes are wood by replacing the T- posts with screws. I’ve put my 4x4 boxes (2) with a 2 foot walkway through the middle . Then I took long wood screws (3) on each board, spaced. Then anchored the cattle panels with the screws. I have no issues. It could work according to your setup. Those t posts are expensive! ❤ from Walterboro SC
I am very excited to try using arched trellises this year. Can anyone tell me approximately how many squash plants I could put on a 50" x 16' arched trellis? I was hoping to do 1 each butternut, acorn, spaghetti and zucchini. I know that the zuke will need tied and that I may need to support the larger fruits. Thanks and love the videos!
Our town is set up so wonky. I live 2 blocks from the major city park. I also love like 6 blocks from our commercial farm feed and supply store. We don't have a truck. My husband and brother in law walked our panels home. Hahahahaha. My son is so excited for watermelons. I have basically planted snacks all over my yard. I dont plan on feeding my kids this summer. Hahaha
Hello! Does anyone here know where we can get cattle panels in New Zealand? Cattle panels in NZ are very different to those listed here. They are more like gate/fences and are super thick and cannot be bent. Perhaps it's called something else in NZ/Aussie? I hear Australia has a similar thing going on. I would love to make these for my new garden that I am digging up. I have been searching for these for months without any luck! I can only find the wire mesh products in stores which will not be strong enough to be arched trellises. :( 🥲 losing hope over here...
If creating an arch with only 1 t-post per side, how tall are the t-posts, and do you place the cattle panel at ground level or do you raise that from the ground 16-18"? LOVING your videos!
I currently have 4 x 8 raised gardens beds. Do I need that much ground space to grown things like different squash, melons, zucs and cucs? If the plants are basically growing vertically, can I grow things like bush beans in the 4 x 8 area underneath the trellis or would the area be too shaded? Other than lettuces do you have any thoughts on what I could use the vacant area underneath the trellis for? Thanks Kathy
I'm going to use some old porch railing to grow pumpkins, loofa, Watermelon. I have a couple questions , should I string twine or metal through it to create a "net"? I wondered about fairytale pumpkins if it was worthwhile to grow them vertically. Maybe something off the ground but low to the ground where they rest on top? I could use some sort of pallet wood structure the height of a dog house and let it Vine out. What are your thoughts? Thanks for your channel.
"Cattle Panel Math"
Most of us know about "chicken math" :-) , so let's take a more in depth look at cattle panel math:
Cost per 4 linear feet per raised bed = $10 (if 8 foot panels cost $20 each)
If we have 2 raised beds that are each 8 feet long and we are arching a trellis along the entire length of the beds it will cost $40 for the cattle panels plus the cost of T bars or other support poles and strapping. Let's call it $50.
If you plant 2 plants per 4 feet on each side of the trellis you will need to grow $50 of food from 8 plants in order to "break even" from your yield the first year if you are only to get one crop from each panel. And this does not include any costs for dirt or nutrients, or the beds themselves!
Growing on arched cattle panels is an INVESTMENT. PLEASE do not think that going out and spending $200 on cattle panels so that you can grow 32 vegetable plants is going to help you while getting started!! Even if you are a seasoned gardener, spending $10 every 2 plants on "supports" isn't the most efficient way to garden UNLESS you have very limited space and are in it for the long run and KNOW that you are going to use the panels over and over and over and over again. There are better ways.
Happy Gardening!
H2O Water yes investment 👍🏻
What if you just like the way it looks 😂😂😂
@@tdespres To each their own! I personally think a lot of trelliseses look absolutely amazing, but it won't change the amount that it costs. Happy Gardening!
I use cattle panel trellis for blackberry and tomatoes and also have hoop trellis, I built the hoop trellis with two panels making it 108" (9ft) long. the front and back bottom opening of the trellis is 8' wide and the height is 76". I built raised beds inside the trellis. This allows the trellis to be covered with plastic in the colder months and serve as a greenhouse or large cold frame to grow greens, veggies in pots, or store other potted plants.
I’m planting a total 16 pole green beans and 54 bush beans. It’s just me and my wife. I’m guessing that’s plenty for two?
Is there a best direction to put your arches to get proper sun light? How far apart should the arches be in order to not over shade? I live in the 110°+ dry desert and don’t know how to balance plants getting enough but not too much Sun ☀️
So fun to watch you and learn from you. Authentic!
We had a problem with pickle worms in our cucumbers and squash last yr. Any tips to avoid that this yr? Thanks so much!
Concrete rebar should work. The only thing is, those panels rust the moment you buy them if not before, so you'd have to paint them with something appropriate.
I'd really like to try out the cattle panel method of verticle gardening. Do you recommend a specific thickness to the wire? Here in the UK the thickest I've been able to find is 2.5mm, and that's only one end of the wire (it gets thinner towards to bottom of the fence). I presume anything too thin won't provide much support for when the plants get weighty? Thanks
The ones I use are 4 gauge
I have not been able to find kajari (sp?.) melons. I am in Northeast Ohio. Do they grow well in our area.
I just got my cattle panels home. Minivan on the roof with ratchet straps and flag ties. You are rubbing off on Iowa people we were not the only ones buying them. So you would plant say a small melon on the inside and a tomato on the outside? We bought enough to have two trellis between each of the three beds but now I'm wondering if I should scratch one of those and just run it along the outside of the outermost bed and grow the tomatoes up that
farm & home arched 2 -16ft in my truck not tied in, no trouble. said they have done up to 16 at a time at there most. you could tie them in if you were going very far.
Wow! Terrific video with where I am in my gardening journey. You just got a follower. Very well done
Sometimes when I hear that people ask if you can plant different things on each side of the trellis, I wonder if they actually mean one thing on the top (outside) of the trellis and another on the underside (inside) of the trellis, not realizing that the plants will cross through and go wherever they want (and that one might shade the other too much if they plant on both the inside and outside).
So we are 100% sure that tomatoes won't climb up the arch of the arched trellises....right ):