As far as the game goes, I really enjoy it. I think the worst publicity for the game is, perhaps more than the micro transaction garbage, is community negativity. Nothing is worse than trying to get into a game and everything you hear about it is bad balance, name calling, and the people grinding talking about how much they simply don't enjoy the game. I hope easy bake 50/50s get toned down, some tracking shenanigans are toned down, and we have one of the most interactive Tekken games of all time.
I don't have a local scene so social media is the only way for me to really engage with the community and the negativity gets to me pretty quickly on top of generally being bad at socializing online. Content from you, Phi and Brawlpro usually get me back to playing though so shoutouts for being cool ass dudes.
Thank you so much for this. I needed this so bad because I love playing this game but it’s so hard to find content that isn’t super negative. Y’all are my goats
As a completely new player to tekken and honestly fighting games in general. Phis discord has kept me going when quitting would have been so much easier. To have so many positive people in one place that are excited and happy to help me learn how to play, learn how to get better, its been a safe haven for me.
Phi seems like one of those people that’s a blast to be around. All his content shows him to be super conscientious and authentic. Having to be exposed to so many peoples who’s biggest problem in life is that they’re angry about a video game is such a ridiculous occupational hazard for someone just trying to make a positive impact in the scene.
I mean I know it then would be a podcast instead of being not a podcast, but I'd love to hear you two nerds just talking over coaching things and go between them. See all kinds of stuff like if your people come to you and you all see different issues in play, different drills you like to do for things, or just whatever else in coaching y'all can think about. I love hearing you both talk about things like that.
I enjoyed the vid. This is my first Tekken and I've really been enjoying getting to learn the game. One of the hardest things about learning however is having to avoid/ignore a lot of the negativity about people complaining about the game. That's a larger pain point for me than the shop stuff.
This is so dope! I love the more positive spin on Tekken 8. Sure a lot of stuff could be better balanced but it's a super fun game nontheless! Keep it up guys!
I just want to say thanks for this guys. I'm a nerd about fighting games too, and I appreciate Phi's approach especially because I like to (over)intellectualize them. It's refeshing to hear high-level players speak well of the game. I'm new to Tekken with 8, and while I'm secure enough in my own opinions to not let the howling mob turn me away from a thing I really enjoy, the constant whinging does nag at me. I sometimes wonder if I don't know enough about the game to know how bad it is. Upbeat realism is best. Great video.
Im a die hard MK fan and all the hype surrounding T8s release got me to pick it up and i got to say this is like one of my favorite games of all time. I think ive played it every single day since release. I know it has its problems but im still just straight up having pure fun. I love tekken 8 and i can't wait to see what the future has in store.
When speedkicks was talking about how if he was a comp player, he wouldn't want anyone to be able to mix him, I damn near had a spiritual awakening about the game
12:15 i feel so validated. Old head at my local whining about forced 50/50s, when to me literally every string, every button is a 50/50 as i have 0 legacy knowledge. Idk when i need to duck, step, walk or hold back or take my turn. But then he Switches chars when I start figuring it out lul
Halfway in, and I've got to say. It's because of these two that I'm having the most fun and success I've ever had with Tekken since I started playing all the way back in T1. Between Speeds coaching, pretty zen approach to it all, and Phi's content, analysis, desire to help and especially his community. I know morons saying dumb shit is easy to remember, but don't let it distract from the good you guys are doing for a game that needs it. This joint would be a lot shittier without you. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
As someone whos a bit older than Speed I really do miss the days of being on SRK and lurking TZ haha. shit was a great era to be a fg lover I made alot of my best friends to this days on those forums
Nice podcast, this positivity around the game was very much needed. Maybe for a future episode you could invite Maximilian since he wanted to discuss the state of Tekken with Phi. This (not) podcast is the perfect opportunity for this discussion.
I appreciate both of you as a counterpoint to the wave of negativity around this game. This game has flaws, but I enjoy it more than 7. And we should all be realistic about how bat mtx is in gaming in general.
"AY LISTEN TO ME LISTEN TO ME.... if it's for money I would like to sit down and have the game say 'speedkicks wins' but this for fun" got me crying lmao i aint even know speed had a youtube
This vid was therapeutic af man like OG therapy.. im one of those old players.That tbh. have very little issue with tekken 8 "not saying there isn't" And its so damn draining. At every turn all you see is hate. And here i am just wanting to play the damn game. Learn and get better.. "proceeds to get 1 and done like 20 times in a row"😂 Honestly, i am looking forward to the day all the babys trickle down and whats there are just players that love tekken. And real discussion can be had. I hate that i had to just start passing on people that, at one time were good sources of information and good play. Now alot of them are reduced to just complaining. like there only tekken game was the last 8 months of T7 lol. Seriously thanks. To both of you.
Def had to start going to offline tourneys + online ones bc the negativity online is toooo much. And I’m just new and tryin to grind, so I just had to purposefully find contact with real people to stay motivated. (Also do you have a metafy or listed coaching services lol)
Great fun high energy podcast guys. Appreciate the nuance positive opinion. @PhiDX As someone outside of the Tekken community I only noticed hate towards you after you made a claim about only top tiers having forced 50/50s, a take that a lot of players felt was objectively false. Otherwise seems like most of the community likes you man! As a legacy FGC player I find the direction of modern fighting games very interesting ( and frustrating lol at times) which is why I tuned into this. Later guys
of course this take is false when everyone has access to heat and every char gets at least 2 additional mixups per round by heat engager and heat dash/smash.
i'm in my 30s, picked up t7 after watching the netflix show because it made me feel nostalgic about playing t3 when i was 10 and found out another friend played it too… didn't really like the game much but enjoyed the learning process too much to care and also 8 was already announced by then and it looked cool enough that I figured I may as well get the practice in while I wait for the new game. Now I'm here and while there are definitely things I dislike about 8 (it feels like phantom range has gotten much worse and it's much harder to tell when things are high, low, or mid without labbing… not a fan of mtx but at least it can be largely ignored) I'm otherwise having the time of my life. T8 is fun! Dunno if I'll ever be part of the community in the old school sense--i'm a bit of a curmudgeon and hate everyone by default until proven otherwise LOL--but I'm sure there's lots of others like me out there who are just having a good time and being nerds about tekken, just quietly.
Eagerly awaiting "This Is Not A Podcast #2." Man, the Tekken community needs this as a remedy... a remedy to the moan grift we're being subjected to. Tekken 8 is sick and it's only going to get better. If you don't like it, cool. It's ok to leave quietly.
My dawg Ain't even trying to be a professional or a TH-camr 😮💨😮💨 his aura is doing this alone 😮💨😮💨 no effort, no grind, no adversity 😮💨😮💨 stra8 Aura 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯😮💨😮💨
I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but I think it’s only OG tekken people that are super mad about some of the paywall stuff. I don’t think it even matters. I’m new to this, and this is my first of all of the tekken games ive played. I think people need to step out of their wall system and see it for what it is. They literally give the largest day 1 roster of all of the games out there. You can make your character look like anything you want without paying a penny. Even with the stage not being free, you don’t even need to buy it because you can still play it against people online. I completely understand why they are trying to make a little extra money like the other games do. Remember in games like streetfighter you barely even get a custom or alt costume. My answer is just don’t buy it, and they will understand that people are not buying it and won’t do it in the future. The negativity really makes things suck in the community.
Try to avoid places like Reddit altogether esp. if you have a big enough following unless if you have a well moderated community but in general it can be pretty awful
"Worse players can now beat better players in tekken 8 because the game is dumbed down" - Speed proceeds to constantly beat the shit out of this good Law player for 51 minutes. How is this possible if tekken 8 doesn't reward skill? Did Speed get very lucky like 51 minutes straight? This game gets so much unnecessary negativity off of people who are mad that they are losing and then proceeds to quote the pro players criticism of the game to justify their loss even though it doesn't even apply to them. I really love this game. I really like my local community. I hate this game's online community.
Luke Sidewalker is a lagswitching cheater. He was manipulating the rollback frames& delay frames during the sets and it's obvious. Red signal flashes at the end of a rounds. He's a cheater.
Phi needs to learn how to take anonymous criticisms or find a new vocation. He amplifies any "hate" he gets by constantly broadcasting it over every channel it and it's honestly kind of cringe. Anonymous trolls exist in this space. Ignore it and keep doing your thing. Most people love you, including the critics.
community only negative because game is bad. People who spread negativity around the game are actually helping it since it makes it more likely devs make bigger changes for season 2. If big content creators invalidate legit criticism and be overly positive about the game while the game is objectively heavily flawed the further development of the game is hurt.
Yeah I agree, we need negativity to keep things in check. The problem is a part of the community is TOO negative to the point of hating the game and blaming people who enjoy playing or content creating with Tekken 8 for it's problems. Not everyone needs to see eye to eye or agree on everything.
Speedkicks' point about negativity in this new social media era doesn't make sense to me. From what I've seen as a basically brand new player who hasn't played since Tekken 5, 95% of the toxicity I see is from boomers who've been playing Tekken for 20 years and presumably would have been on those forums speedkicks was talking about. Like that guy Phi mentions who said he "hasn't bought the game and never will" is clearly a miserable 30+ year old, right? No "social media era" player would be that jaded. I think this behavior is universal in gaming culture now, I think it's just jaded old mfs who grew up playing games, who now have miserable shitty lives and jobs and responsibilities, and nothing is able to match up to the nostalgia they've conjured in their heads about how great games used to be. And because we're all on social media we all have to listen to these dumbasses whine, but I don't think it's an FGC or tekken exclusive thing related to a loss of arcades or a more centralized community, social media just gives these people an outlet.
Phi, saying that the negativity is just from the loud minority, is digging your own grave. Have you considered that the people that participated in your poll were YOUR community and would generally agree with you? I have multiple discord servers I'm a part of here in the Philippines and everyone hates Tekken 8. I can count in my fingers the ones that love it. I respect your opinion about the game, but don't you think it's time you should acknowledge that maybe... just maybe...the majority hates it?
I cant believe you called me a nerd like that
I was like damn he called you out for being a nerd... then I get to then end and was like THIS BITCH CALLED ME A NERD 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Don't let this not a podcast distract you from the fact that Speedkicks has been 23 for the past 12 years. 🕯
😂
*22 don't age him up
😂😂
As far as the game goes, I really enjoy it. I think the worst publicity for the game is, perhaps more than the micro transaction garbage, is community negativity. Nothing is worse than trying to get into a game and everything you hear about it is bad balance, name calling, and the people grinding talking about how much they simply don't enjoy the game. I hope easy bake 50/50s get toned down, some tracking shenanigans are toned down, and we have one of the most interactive Tekken games of all time.
Yo Speeds please keep this not a podcast series with Phi
You guys have great synergy and I’d love these.
Your topics are on point too
I don't have a local scene so social media is the only way for me to really engage with the community and the negativity gets to me pretty quickly on top of generally being bad at socializing online. Content from you, Phi and Brawlpro usually get me back to playing though so shoutouts for being cool ass dudes.
I like how speed doesn't consider himself a content creator, yet here I am on TH-cam and twitch watching his content
the #1 in the title implies there will be more. this is now my expectation
Let's go Speed!!!! Sounds like a podcast to me 😂 Sounds like we need the next video!!! Great Job my friend!!!
I hope there's an episode 2 eventually. This was fun to listen to
Bro I’ve been need a “not” podcast about Tekken forever!!! Good stuff!
I CAN'T BELEIVE PHI SAID YES. I'M SO HAPPY. CONGRATULATIONS TO PhiKicks!
Love these types of vids man. I'm not even a minute in and ik its gonna be a treat
Thank you so much for this. I needed this so bad because I love playing this game but it’s so hard to find content that isn’t super negative. Y’all are my goats
As a completely new player to tekken and honestly fighting games in general. Phis discord has kept me going when quitting would have been so much easier. To have so many positive people in one place that are excited and happy to help me learn how to play, learn how to get better, its been a safe haven for me.
Phi seems like one of those people that’s a blast to be around. All his content shows him to be super conscientious and authentic. Having to be exposed to so many peoples who’s biggest problem in life is that they’re angry about a video game is such a ridiculous occupational hazard for someone just trying to make a positive impact in the scene.
Can i just say. Listening to a podcast with a fire set in the back is more fun then i thought. Especially as a hwo main. Its good stuff to remember.
Entering your podcast era unc, I'm here for it.
EDIT: Watched the whole thing now, that was definitely worth listening to.
Yo thats fire. Hope to see/hear more of it in the future AND I AM NOT EVEN STARTED LISTENING.
thank you for shouting out the beautiful people, it aint easy im telling you
I mean I know it then would be a podcast instead of being not a podcast, but I'd love to hear you two nerds just talking over coaching things and go between them. See all kinds of stuff like if your people come to you and you all see different issues in play, different drills you like to do for things, or just whatever else in coaching y'all can think about. I love hearing you both talk about things like that.
I enjoyed the vid. This is my first Tekken and I've really been enjoying getting to learn the game. One of the hardest things about learning however is having to avoid/ignore a lot of the negativity about people complaining about the game. That's a larger pain point for me than the shop stuff.
This is exactly the kind of podcast I'd want to listen to great discussion and then some insane matches as well
This is so dope! I love the more positive spin on Tekken 8. Sure a lot of stuff could be better balanced but it's a super fun game nontheless! Keep it up guys!
I just want to say thanks for this guys. I'm a nerd about fighting games too, and I appreciate Phi's approach especially because I like to (over)intellectualize them. It's refeshing to hear high-level players speak well of the game. I'm new to Tekken with 8, and while I'm secure enough in my own opinions to not let the howling mob turn me away from a thing I really enjoy, the constant whinging does nag at me. I sometimes wonder if I don't know enough about the game to know how bad it is. Upbeat realism is best. Great video.
FUCK YEAH, speedkicks content!! I’m so down to hear more from this legend💥
Im a die hard MK fan and all the hype surrounding T8s release got me to pick it up and i got to say this is like one of my favorite games of all time. I think ive played it every single day since release. I know it has its problems but im still just straight up having pure fun. I love tekken 8 and i can't wait to see what the future has in store.
When speedkicks was talking about how if he was a comp player, he wouldn't want anyone to be able to mix him, I damn near had a spiritual awakening about the game
Really Like the idea of this! Hope you keep it up
Please continue these conversations
Speed and Phi having a podcast together? Let's go! 🙌
12:15 i feel so validated. Old head at my local whining about forced 50/50s, when to me literally every string, every button is a 50/50 as i have 0 legacy knowledge. Idk when i need to duck, step, walk or hold back or take my turn. But then he Switches chars when I start figuring it out lul
Love listening to quality discussion on this game. Hearing other pros talking about T8 doesn't feel as in depth unless they're doing a tier list.
Y'all have kept my Tekken spark going with your positivity about the game, I'm glad y'all are so passionate about it, it's infectious!
Halfway in, and I've got to say. It's because of these two that I'm having the most fun and success I've ever had with Tekken since I started playing all the way back in T1. Between Speeds coaching, pretty zen approach to it all, and Phi's content, analysis, desire to help and especially his community. I know morons saying dumb shit is easy to remember, but don't let it distract from the good you guys are doing for a game that needs it. This joint would be a lot shittier without you. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Thanks to speedkicks for all the wonderful tournament moments you provided to me for free. I still remember 17/18 matches from you.
Love this nerdy not a podcast. Please make another one! Maybe with Landon, Joe Crush or some other NA people
Been having a good time playing tekken . My homie classified me as a casual tekken player but the games been good for me.
I didn't really play 7 like that only in the blue moons with family but I've been playing 8 with the returning ASUKA KAZAMA.
Fellow nerd here! This was really interesting, please do more!!
okay but hear me out. what if we did have a speedkicks + phidx podcast?
As someone whos a bit older than Speed I really do miss the days of being on SRK and lurking TZ haha. shit was a great era to be a fg lover I made alot of my best friends to this days on those forums
Nice podcast, this positivity around the game was very much needed.
Maybe for a future episode you could invite Maximilian since he wanted to discuss the state of Tekken with Phi. This (not) podcast is the perfect opportunity for this discussion.
yo speed would love more of this, as a fellow nerd
Only 12minutes in and i'm already hard nodding along like 'Facts. Facts'
I appreciate both of you as a counterpoint to the wave of negativity around this game. This game has flaws, but I enjoy it more than 7. And we should all be realistic about how bat mtx is in gaming in general.
I remember being on Tekken Zaibatsu before T5 came out. All the marketing hype "Is Heihachi really dead???". Good times.
No way this man said stay tuned for something he may or may not do
"AY LISTEN TO ME LISTEN TO ME.... if it's for money I would like to sit down and have the game say 'speedkicks wins' but this for fun" got me crying lmao i aint even know speed had a youtube
I'm so down for this series
This was excellent thank you for this !!
This vid was therapeutic af man like OG therapy.. im one of those old players.That tbh. have very little issue with tekken 8 "not saying there isn't" And its so damn draining. At every turn all you see is hate. And here i am just wanting to play the damn game. Learn and get better..
"proceeds to get 1 and done like 20 times in a row"😂
Honestly, i am looking forward to the day all the babys trickle down and whats there are just players that love tekken. And real discussion can be had.
I hate that i had to just start passing on people that, at one time were good sources of information and good play. Now alot of them are reduced to just complaining. like there only tekken game was the last 8 months of T7 lol.
Seriously thanks. To both of you.
The fact the stage music in Jukebox is paywalled upsets me more than the paid stage
God don’t let this be the only one, I want more in depth dialogue about my favorite fighting game 🔥🔥🔥😐
Tekken 8 is the epitome of “everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face”
54:28 - this was great!
interesting...
50:24 i am a nerd.
I am a nerd
Def had to start going to offline tourneys + online ones bc the negativity online is toooo much. And I’m just new and tryin to grind, so I just had to purposefully find contact with real people to stay motivated.
(Also do you have a metafy or listed coaching services lol)
hope yall do more episodes
Great fun high energy podcast guys. Appreciate the nuance positive opinion. @PhiDX As someone outside of the Tekken community I only noticed hate towards you after you made a claim about only top tiers having forced 50/50s, a take that a lot of players felt was objectively false. Otherwise seems like most of the community likes you man!
As a legacy FGC player I find the direction of modern fighting games very interesting ( and frustrating lol at times) which is why I tuned into this. Later guys
of course this take is false when everyone has access to heat and every char gets at least 2 additional mixups per round by heat engager and heat dash/smash.
i'm in my 30s, picked up t7 after watching the netflix show because it made me feel nostalgic about playing t3 when i was 10 and found out another friend played it too… didn't really like the game much but enjoyed the learning process too much to care and also 8 was already announced by then and it looked cool enough that I figured I may as well get the practice in while I wait for the new game. Now I'm here and while there are definitely things I dislike about 8 (it feels like phantom range has gotten much worse and it's much harder to tell when things are high, low, or mid without labbing… not a fan of mtx but at least it can be largely ignored) I'm otherwise having the time of my life. T8 is fun! Dunno if I'll ever be part of the community in the old school sense--i'm a bit of a curmudgeon and hate everyone by default until proven otherwise LOL--but I'm sure there's lots of others like me out there who are just having a good time and being nerds about tekken, just quietly.
lol it will be a shame if you don't do another one of these 🐐🐐
Great vid need the next one
I'd love to see more not podcasts
episode 2 or we riot (fast food tierlist)
Love me a Speedkicks PhiDX nerd yap sesh
Much needed cleanse of negativity for the community.
Eagerly awaiting "This Is Not A Podcast #2." Man, the Tekken community needs this as a remedy... a remedy to the moan grift we're being subjected to. Tekken 8 is sick and it's only going to get better. If you don't like it, cool. It's ok to leave quietly.
Blessed be thy nerd
Got me to sub to Phi
Go on Spotify - I wanna hear that shit while working out
I want to make a Rush Hour joke/reference, but not that Rush Hour, the Aphromoo/Doublelift Rush Hour.
this game is fun ... as a new tekken player///
I’m a nerd then. The more I know…
Commenting from one nerd to another, just saying this was fun
nice podcast
Just got done listening. Wish there was more speed and Phi conversations because I always learn some shit. Nerd stuff.
My dawg Ain't even trying to be a professional or a TH-camr 😮💨😮💨 his aura is doing this alone 😮💨😮💨 no effort, no grind, no adversity 😮💨😮💨 stra8 Aura 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯😮💨😮💨
Damn I sure liked to listen to this NOT a podcast
Love this great thingcast?
awesome sauce
I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but I think it’s only OG tekken people that are super mad about some of the paywall stuff. I don’t think it even matters. I’m new to this, and this is my first of all of the tekken games ive played. I think people need to step out of their wall system and see it for what it is. They literally give the largest day 1 roster of all of the games out there. You can make your character look like anything you want without paying a penny. Even with the stage not being free, you don’t even need to buy it because you can still play it against people online. I completely understand why they are trying to make a little extra money like the other games do. Remember in games like streetfighter you barely even get a custom or alt costume. My answer is just don’t buy it, and they will understand that people are not buying it and won’t do it in the future. The negativity really makes things suck in the community.
50:20 yay
This is a podcast man. Idk what to tell you
Try to avoid places like Reddit altogether esp. if you have a big enough following unless if you have a well moderated community but in general it can be pretty awful
Speedx my goat 😭🙏
what does zookeeping mean?
I thought it's not a podcast, but an Xbox.
Yea… real and easy mix is something you need to be careful with… that same principle still devides sf6 somehwat.
"Worse players can now beat better players in tekken 8 because the game is dumbed down"
- Speed proceeds to constantly beat the shit out of this good Law player for 51 minutes.
How is this possible if tekken 8 doesn't reward skill? Did Speed get very lucky like 51 minutes straight?
This game gets so much unnecessary negativity off of people who are mad that they are losing and then proceeds to quote the pro players criticism of the game to justify their loss even though it doesn't even apply to them.
I really love this game. I really like my local community. I hate this game's online community.
54:28 🤓
HELLO
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Luke Sidewalker is a lagswitching cheater. He was manipulating the rollback frames& delay frames during the sets and it's obvious. Red signal flashes at the end of a rounds. He's a cheater.
Phi needs to learn how to take anonymous criticisms or find a new vocation. He amplifies any "hate" he gets by constantly broadcasting it over every channel it and it's honestly kind of cringe.
Anonymous trolls exist in this space. Ignore it and keep doing your thing. Most people love you, including the critics.
Proud nerd here to say, great video🫡 Ep2? Need that
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hello
Hello!
community only negative because game is bad. People who spread negativity around the game are actually helping it since it makes it more likely devs make bigger changes for season 2. If big content creators invalidate legit criticism and be overly positive about the game while the game is objectively heavily flawed the further development of the game is hurt.
Yeah I agree, we need negativity to keep things in check. The problem is a part of the community is TOO negative to the point of hating the game and blaming people who enjoy playing or content creating with Tekken 8 for it's problems.
Not everyone needs to see eye to eye or agree on everything.
@@Nico-tz7ut mmm... game bad.... me smart and right....
@@Jamal.O the Bad t8 gameplay makes people depressed and aggressive so they lash Out
Speedkicks' point about negativity in this new social media era doesn't make sense to me. From what I've seen as a basically brand new player who hasn't played since Tekken 5, 95% of the toxicity I see is from boomers who've been playing Tekken for 20 years and presumably would have been on those forums speedkicks was talking about. Like that guy Phi mentions who said he "hasn't bought the game and never will" is clearly a miserable 30+ year old, right? No "social media era" player would be that jaded.
I think this behavior is universal in gaming culture now, I think it's just jaded old mfs who grew up playing games, who now have miserable shitty lives and jobs and responsibilities, and nothing is able to match up to the nostalgia they've conjured in their heads about how great games used to be. And because we're all on social media we all have to listen to these dumbasses whine, but I don't think it's an FGC or tekken exclusive thing related to a loss of arcades or a more centralized community, social media just gives these people an outlet.
lol youre clueless
@@Nico-tz7ut and you can't articulate what you disagree with so move your stupid ass on 😭
@@Nico-tz7ut your own comment on here sounds like it was written by a cro-magnon, go be a whiney dumbass somewhere else.
@@Nico-tz7ut hey look, found the whiney dumbass
@@Nico-tz7utyeah man, keep whining and liking your own conments it makes you look really smart and cool.
Phi, saying that the negativity is just from the loud minority, is digging your own grave. Have you considered that the people that participated in your poll were YOUR community and would generally agree with you? I have multiple discord servers I'm a part of here in the Philippines and everyone hates Tekken 8. I can count in my fingers the ones that love it. I respect your opinion about the game, but don't you think it's time you should acknowledge that maybe... just maybe...the majority hates it?
Majority of top players and content creators hates it