They've got to set a limit somewhere, but I suppose whether they can tweak the design to accommodate a wider range of heights depends on whether that would significantly affect the cost. At least height is likely to pose the designers less of an issue than weight, although if they did special variants that ventured into the "big and tall" marketplace they might do well as this is a specialist area where people already expect to pay more, not to mention office departments being leaned on by an Occupational Therapy officer. We had one at work designed to take 40 stone. Two of us were able to sit on it side by side, and that was with armrests in the way. I've no idea how much was shelled out for that.
So it seems like there is a tilt mechanism in the base, a bit of flex where the back rest connects to the seat (letting the back rest tilt back more than the seat) as well as the linear mechanism for the backrest. Does this achieve anything different compared to a synchronous chair where the seat moves forward (rather than the backrest moving backwards)? How good is the footrest actually, compared to kicking up on an ottoman?
I've been trying for a while to get ahold of someone at Newtral to get warranty support for a chair that had a weld fail within 6 months of receiving it? All I've managed to do is get added to mailing lists. I guess I could post a video review....
Do it! Would love to see your thoughts. Couldn’t find many examples of people needing to use the warranty as I mentioned in the episode, so would be good for the community. 👍
Incroyable présentation claire et instructive. Mon anglais est vraiment super nul. J'ai peur que google traduise mal. Donc je suis désolé de ce commentaire en français, mais je voulais dire combien cette vidéo m'a plu, et combien elle m'a convaincue ! J'ai de gros problèmes de lombaires, ce pourquoi je m'intéresse aux avis sur des chaises ergonomiques. Cette présentation est tout simplement très bien faite et convaincante. Merci, excellent travail. Bonne continuation.
Have you had any problems with your height for this chair? I'm 6' 2", and every office chair I've used so far the lumbar support is too low for me unless I slouch. Also does anyone here have any experience with this company? I'm skeptical as it's a kickstarter, along with the possibility of the chair not fitting me well.
Which one do you prefer? The Hinomi H1 Pro V2 OR the Newtral Magic? This is an actual point where I am struggeling which chair I should buy. Which one is better of course in your opinion. Maybe somone has the sane situation or question?
It’s a difficult one! I like both for different reasons. This is great for the innovations around the desk, and also the hybrid materials used, but then the hinomi with the adaptable arms and ability to fold is really handy!
I was one of the early backers. We're two months late into their promised DELIVERY time, with no communication other than copy-paste replies & just found out that the product is available for 379$ on Amazon they said the pro will retail @ 519$ & it gets worse... Amazon will ship them Dec 1-6. Absolutely disgusting!
Wish the pistons on this chair could be activated by games, imagine the force feedback on the back if you take a corner a little too fast in a racing game 🤣
Cheers! 🥃 it’s actually a custom piece designed by me and made by a company called ‘the mole hole’ who unfortunately are taking some time away from their business.
Tough choice - I love both for different reasons, but I would say, if you live in a colder place, this one… if you live in a warmer place and needed adaptability and ability to fold under desks easily, then the hinomi h1 would be my choice. It all largely depends on your individual situation!
@@StusReviewsUK Wow thnx for the fast reply! I live in The Netherlands and this is the first time i'm investing in a chair like this. NL is famous becuase of their rain but its not that cold here most of the times. In terms of seating, which one did you like better? This with the bigger cushion or the Hinomi one?
@@jenn2728 Hey Jenn. The chair is wonderful! The footrest is a big plus point for this price. And all the adjustments help with making it more comfortable for my specific body.
Can you lock the tilt at multiple angles, or just one? I believe the first version of this chair could be locked at 5 different angles, so I was wondering if they kept that feature. Thanks!
You can lock the tilt in about 5 positions for 6 months, then the tilt teeth break off and the back is free-tilt after that. another two months and the lift cylinder starts leaking... crappy chair.
I bought a similar Newtral chair but without the footrest, but hardware might be similar. Try pulling the seat height adjustment lever out (away from you), then it can freely recline. Or you can push it back into 3 locking points (straight up, relaxed, sleep)
Do they do a version that looks like a racing bucket seat, has one of those elastic fitted neck cushions and comes in an array of striking 'Gamery' colours? ...
As the video played, I thought to myself I would pay £400 for that. I also thought it would be very much more expensive. I think I might go for it. I've been wondering about an attached desk. Looks a bit wibbly though...
@@javierititin Today's 'November Update' email says: "Orders for these regions [uk] were dispatched this week. Tracking information will be uploaded next week." All good if that's the case - just more waiting.....
I know, I sometimes think that kickstarter hinders the launch of some products- but then it’s a catch 22, because some great products could launch without it!
I'm not a spokesperson from the company, just someone who shares his opinion on things...however as i mentioned in the episode, it's a kickstarter project and therefore there are risks in backing projects on kickstart platforms. (see link in description).
@@StusReviewsUK They are available on Amazon now. I just purchased their sub $200 version which is nearly exactly like your model but without the foot rest. They say the laptop desk is going to be released as an add-on product. I made my decision to go with Newtral largely based on your review. Thank you.
OK, ok... who else was expecting at: th-cam.com/video/xtOJXVI0vIo/w-d-xo.html for a face reveal and it to be Paul Hibbert? more so when we saw the highly detailed drawing Stu did! :) - Leonardo Davinci had better watch out with Stu about! :)
It seems like this one is there first big push into mainstream. The original (amzn.to/44wsEOk) released on kickstarter like I said, and that seemed to do quite well… this one they seem to have gone all out. Obv as a kickstarter, there’s always risk like I mentioned!
Do not buy this chair, it is a fraud, a scam. I paid for it 2 months ago and I still haven't seen any chair. I have read on forums that they will now ask me for an extra 200€ for shipping, it's a scam. I think I have lost all my money.
You haven’t bought anything, you’ve backed a kickstarter. As mentioned in my review it’s a kickstarter and therefor there are all the risks associated with backing a kickstarter, which is why I also included links to the kickstarter trust and accountability page so that you can make an informed decision. Also - the kickstarter page *literally* says they aren’t shipping them until September, so why wouldn’t you read that before complaining about not receiving your chair in august? 👀 www.kickstarter.com/projects/newtral/newtral-magich-the-ultra-adaptive-support-home-office-chair
@@WolfyYOLO I’m not sure they can do that though if it’s part of a kickstarter? Not sure what the refund policy is! I was under the assumption you couldn’t… 🤷♂️
@@WolfyYOLOMeaby think befor you buy just throwing money out is your fault . They cant refund you thats not how kickstarter works . Its your fault not theres
@@xythiera7255 There should be no business in the world where you give money in exchange for a product or service. Don't receive a product or service and don't get your money back. I checked this with my lawyers and with the police and at least in my country this is the case. Money does not fall from the sky. Money is a bargaining chip for something, not for air.
They've got to set a limit somewhere, but I suppose whether they can tweak the design to accommodate a wider range of heights depends on whether that would significantly affect the cost. At least height is likely to pose the designers less of an issue than weight, although if they did special variants that ventured into the "big and tall" marketplace they might do well as this is a specialist area where people already expect to pay more, not to mention office departments being leaned on by an Occupational Therapy officer. We had one at work designed to take 40 stone. Two of us were able to sit on it side by side, and that was with armrests in the way. I've no idea how much was shelled out for that.
Hi Stu, How does this compare to the Hinomi H1 Pro? Which one do you prefer with respect to build quality and back support? Thanks.
So it seems like there is a tilt mechanism in the base, a bit of flex where the back rest connects to the seat (letting the back rest tilt back more than the seat) as well as the linear mechanism for the backrest. Does this achieve anything different compared to a synchronous chair where the seat moves forward (rather than the backrest moving backwards)?
How good is the footrest actually, compared to kicking up on an ottoman?
I've been trying for a while to get ahold of someone at Newtral to get warranty support for a chair that had a weld fail within 6 months of receiving it? All I've managed to do is get added to mailing lists. I guess I could post a video review....
Do it! Would love to see your thoughts. Couldn’t find many examples of people needing to use the warranty as I mentioned in the episode, so would be good for the community. 👍
How important was the weld. Where was the weld that failed?
Incroyable présentation claire et instructive.
Mon anglais est vraiment super nul. J'ai peur que google traduise mal.
Donc je suis désolé de ce commentaire en français, mais je voulais dire combien cette vidéo m'a plu, et combien elle m'a convaincue !
J'ai de gros problèmes de lombaires, ce pourquoi je m'intéresse aux avis sur des chaises ergonomiques.
Cette présentation est tout simplement très bien faite et convaincante.
Merci, excellent travail. Bonne continuation.
Bro. I cannot wait till you partner with a company and design your own vision or the ultimate ergonomic chair
Do you remember the episode of simpsons where Homer designs a car? That’s what my chair would be like 😂
@@StusReviewsUK don’t care we love you so much I would support you. FTW
Have you had any problems with your height for this chair? I'm 6' 2", and every office chair I've used so far the lumbar support is too low for me unless I slouch.
Also does anyone here have any experience with this company? I'm skeptical as it's a kickstarter, along with the possibility of the chair not fitting me well.
Which one do you prefer? The Hinomi H1 Pro V2 OR the Newtral Magic? This is an actual point where I am struggeling which chair I should buy.
Which one is better of course in your opinion.
Maybe somone has the sane situation or question?
Yess I am in between those as well!! I'm hoping to find more info from people who have tried both. Have u decided?
Am i able to purchase this chair right now, because i found many options on amazon, and not to backe the kickstarter?
Great content as always mate.
Is this better or the Hinomi H1 Pro Ergonomic Office Chair?
It’s a difficult one! I like both for different reasons. This is great for the innovations around the desk, and also the hybrid materials used, but then the hinomi with the adaptable arms and ability to fold is really handy!
@@StusReviewsUK thanks dude
@StusReviewsUK what's the main difference about the arms between the 2? I'm trying to decide which one i should purchase
I was one of the early backers. We're two months late into their promised DELIVERY time, with no communication other than copy-paste replies & just found out that the product is available for 379$ on Amazon they said the pro will retail @ 519$ & it gets worse... Amazon will ship them Dec 1-6. Absolutely disgusting!
Strange… you got a link? On Amazon US, from what I can see, it’s showing a product page but no availability. UK Amazon it’s not on there.
Yeah I'm waiting as well
Wish the pistons on this chair could be activated by games, imagine the force feedback on the back if you take a corner a little too fast in a racing game 🤣
Dude, this is actually something you could totally sell if it's not already on the market. I have tons of ideas for it already!
I mean that's kinda what a sim racing motion platform and butt kickers are for. Look up high end sim racing rigs
@@NightVisionOfficialyou should work on those ideas, it's a first time thing nothing else like it on the market
Stu, I’m also 6’8” and I’m considering this chair. What would be your top recommendation for someone this tall?
big fan! where did you get that vest very sharp!
Cheers! 🥃 it’s actually a custom piece designed by me and made by a company called ‘the mole hole’ who unfortunately are taking some time away from their business.
Hey! Which you prefer better? The HINOMI H1 Pro Ergonomic Chair or this one?
Tough choice - I love both for different reasons, but I would say, if you live in a colder place, this one… if you live in a warmer place and needed adaptability and ability to fold under desks easily, then the hinomi h1 would be my choice. It all largely depends on your individual situation!
@@StusReviewsUK Wow thnx for the fast reply! I live in The Netherlands and this is the first time i'm investing in a chair like this. NL is famous becuase of their rain but its not that cold here most of the times. In terms of seating, which one did you like better? This with the bigger cushion or the Hinomi one?
I bought the Hinomi one :D. Thnx for the great reviews you make!
@@craftercis i'm also from NL, and i'm also doubting between both. Did you get the Hinomi H1 pro? How did you like it?
@@jenn2728 Hey Jenn. The chair is wonderful! The footrest is a big plus point for this price. And all the adjustments help with making it more comfortable for my specific body.
ive purchased this with the table tray no skip a real desk. But my belly is a little bit in the way...
Hi mate, any updates on this chair?
Can you lock the tilt at multiple angles, or just one? I believe the first version of this chair could be locked at 5 different angles, so I was wondering if they kept that feature. Thanks!
You can lock the tilt in about 5 positions for 6 months, then the tilt teeth break off and the back is free-tilt after that. another two months and the lift cylinder starts leaking... crappy chair.
How have you had it two months… the kickstarter has only just ended? 👀
@@StusReviewsUK I think he is referring to the current version of the chair.
I bought but it won’t recline back just the piston works and the height lever. Is there a fix cuz I threw the box away already :;
I bought a similar Newtral chair but without the footrest, but hardware might be similar. Try pulling the seat height adjustment lever out (away from you), then it can freely recline. Or you can push it back into 3 locking points (straight up, relaxed, sleep)
Your drawing skills are certainly better than mine. I even struggle to make a stick figure
My boss said get lost buy your own
Do they do a version that looks like a racing bucket seat, has one of those elastic fitted neck cushions and comes in an array of striking 'Gamery' colours? ...
As the video played, I thought to myself I would pay £400 for that. I also thought it would be very much more expensive. I think I might go for it. I've been wondering about an attached desk. Looks a bit wibbly though...
I hopefully have one on the way in a few weeks...
Yeah I'm also waiting -.-
@@javierititin Today's 'November Update' email says: "Orders for these regions [uk] were dispatched this week. Tracking information will be uploaded next week." All good if that's the case - just more waiting.....
@@soundman127 Yeah, sucks but what can you do :c
DPD tracking still saying 'have not yet received your parcel'. Same for you?
If the drawing a life model part doesn't get you over 100k subs, I don't know what will. LOL
Great Video Stu.
I would have bought this in a heartbeat if it weren’t on Kickstarter. What a shame!
I know, I sometimes think that kickstarter hinders the launch of some products- but then it’s a catch 22, because some great products could launch without it!
Is this chair going to be made mate?
I'm not a spokesperson from the company, just someone who shares his opinion on things...however as i mentioned in the episode, it's a kickstarter project and therefore there are risks in backing projects on kickstart platforms. (see link in description).
@@StusReviewsUK cool, thank you for the reply
@@StusReviewsUK They are available on Amazon now. I just purchased their sub $200 version which is nearly exactly like your model but without the foot rest. They say the laptop desk is going to be released as an add-on product. I made my decision to go with Newtral largely based on your review. Thank you.
Looks pretty good, especially at 50% of the secretlab cost for the kickstarter earlybird price. Tempted.
Wow! THANKS
Winner Winner - Chicken Dinner! 🍗👑
Has anyone else here ordered one?
I have
Can you give me a little Review
@@MyGangster29 I don't get it till november.
@@javierititin I've not heard any news of expected delivery, only " we will start arranging European and other regions' reward shipping in October."
@@soundman127 Well I don't know where you read that, but if you had done your basic research you'd know that indemand shipping is in November.
OK, ok... who else was expecting at: th-cam.com/video/xtOJXVI0vIo/w-d-xo.html for a face reveal and it to be Paul Hibbert? more so when we saw the highly detailed drawing Stu did! :) - Leonardo Davinci had better watch out with Stu about! :)
I missed a trick there!
@@StusReviewsUK His sister is always up for this it seems :)
I would love to buy one, but the company looks very iffy to me.
Not a lot of real information and no imprint at all. that's a big red flag for me.
It seems like this one is there first big push into mainstream. The original (amzn.to/44wsEOk) released on kickstarter like I said, and that seemed to do quite well… this one they seem to have gone all out. Obv as a kickstarter, there’s always risk like I mentioned!
Does anyone have any idea what they might charge for shipping from US to UK?
There would be import duties to pay also?
If anyone is interested, apparently about £65 delivery to the UK and no duties, just VAT.
Draw me like one of your French girls...
I think my French girls might be defective if that’s what they look like…
@@StusReviewsUK 🤣
My cat would destroy that chair base and back in about 45 seconds.
😂
Do not buy this chair, it is a fraud, a scam. I paid for it 2 months ago and I still haven't seen any chair. I have read on forums that they will now ask me for an extra 200€ for shipping, it's a scam. I think I have lost all my money.
You haven’t bought anything, you’ve backed a kickstarter. As mentioned in my review it’s a kickstarter and therefor there are all the risks associated with backing a kickstarter, which is why I also included links to the kickstarter trust and accountability page so that you can make an informed decision.
Also - the kickstarter page *literally* says they aren’t shipping them until September, so why wouldn’t you read that before complaining about not receiving your chair in august? 👀
www.kickstarter.com/projects/newtral/newtral-magich-the-ultra-adaptive-support-home-office-chair
@@StusReviewsUK Because I asked them for a refund, before the closing date and they told me that they are not going to give me the money back.
@@WolfyYOLO I’m not sure they can do that though if it’s part of a kickstarter? Not sure what the refund policy is! I was under the assumption you couldn’t… 🤷♂️
@@WolfyYOLOMeaby think befor you buy just throwing money out is your fault . They cant refund you thats not how kickstarter works . Its your fault not theres
@@xythiera7255 There should be no business in the world where you give money in exchange for a product or service. Don't receive a product or service and don't get your money back.
I checked this with my lawyers and with the police and at least in my country this is the case. Money does not fall from the sky. Money is a bargaining chip for something, not for air.
That is absolutely the WORST drawing ever on TH-cam!!!
What I’m hearing is that it’s the best worst drawing on TH-cam, which means that it’s the best on TH-cam?
@@StusReviewsUK ots the best from the worst!!!! :)
@@StusReviewsUKquestion. Does the seat tilt without the leg rest? Thanks.
You sitting in that chair with legs up and table on while drawing looked alot like a kid ind a baby carrier 😂
We’re all just big kids really 😂