Is a Cheap Jeep Comanche Better Than A Brand NEW $55,000 Gladiator?
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- ( www.TFLcar.com ) On this episode we take a look at a classic Jeep Comanche and a brand new Jeep Gladiator Rubicon to see if 25 years of evolution and thousands of dollars of cost are actually worth it in the latest and greatest of Jeep trucks.
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Everything is more enjoyable when your debt free.
Your right
You're not kidding! I bought a 5th gen 4Runner before that concept FINALLY sunk in, and now I regret buying it, and am putting all my extra money into paying it off.
Michael Smith I was going to finance a new 4Runner but reading your comment made me want to stick with my $500 94 4Runner instead and live free of debt
@@hansolo5240 seriously? That's awesome! As long as it runs, the old ones will last a long time. I have a friend with a 98 4Runner with close to 400,000 on it, he puts over a hundred miles on it every single day. I'm seriously considering selling mine and buying an older vehicle, like a Tahoe, for three grand. I have this compulsion to pay mine off, and I'm tired of sinking all my extra income into it.
truck payment becomes gas and oil
I'd go with the older Comanche any day!
boarder989 until you have the money to buy the gladiator...
@@edgarh252 with $55k I'd build the nicest Comanche and have money to spare lol
boarder989 I’m with you mate
Rusty Climber Nobody gives a crap about global marketing. It’s an old school Jeep with a straight 6 made to be used. That’s what he was getting at.
Guaranteed, the gladiator is stupid .
The Gladiator loses by default because it's $55k. Let that sink in. A mid-sized trucklet that costs $55,000!
Yeah my dually was only stickered 3k more. And that's 30k towing, 5500lb payload, crew cab, 8 foot bed, 4x4.
Same (sibling) manufacturer. Go figure.
Lifestyle vehicles are hella expensive.
they start at around 35k i paid 38 for my sport
@@dchawk81 Can't compare a fully loaded midsize to a bare bones full size. Put the same options on a dually and you are looking at 75-80 grand.
@@danielwooten8660 yeah and you watch over the years it fall apart, before your eyes, guaranteed.
@@dchawk81 if it's a Ram 3500 diesel, guaranteed your transmission will go out before its time 😂
*at jeep headquarters*
"sir we need innovation"
*designer, ripping fat line of coke* "cut a cherokee in half and throw a dodge dakota bed on it"
You do know the dodge dakota can out after the comanche had been on the road for 2 years
@@kylecastracane4431 I was bout to say that
Like they said in the video, when it was designed Jeep was AMC, not Chrysler. The first Commanche came out in 1986.
*30 years later at Jeep headquarters*
"Sir, we need innovation... again."
*Designer's son, ripping a fat line of coke*: "Cut a Wrangler in half and put a Dakota bed on it."
"But sir, the Dakota hasn't been made since 2011."
"JUST DO IT!"
If you look at the first gen Dakota taillights they do look more or less identical to the Comanche taillights...
Is the Comanche better? Yes, on every single level. Now I can go watch the video...
But it don't have the snorkel so you couldn't take it in deep water but that's not a selling point in me
@@noname-wo8zp could always make one... pvc is cheap
I got to talk s*** on my own comment either one of them I don't know why I had to go back and look at that
Ahaha i agree. If i had a brand new jeep i would trade it for a brand new 88 Comanche.
I would rather have the Comanche too, but you have to admit, the interior is cheap and it's slow as hell.
I’d take the old scrambler or a Comanche like this. The new Gladiator is all hat no cattle.
'all hat, no cattle' 🤣😂 I am going to have to remember that one!
Im not knocking your comment but Scramblers are very expensive in my opinion
Toilet Paper and not very capable as far as pickups go.
@@Ulfstigandr which more reliable 4wd besides Toyota fj40 and not overrated land rover or mercedes g wagon they both unreliable I hear jeep wagoneer not good is it true
Put 4 or 5 grand into the older Jeep and boom cheaper and better I bet lol
Floreypottery oh definitely, you could do that 10 times over and still have money for gas
Take 20ish grand and you have a full blown built rig on tons coilovers hydro steering ect and have money left over to buy a reasonably nice tow rig and trailer
The Timeless XJ platform.... rescuing bloated lifestyle rigs since the mid-eighties.🤣
@@wildbill23c yeah, he needs to drop down to 31s or 32s
@@wildbill23c just bolt in regular cherokee diffys and your up to 3:55 gears on the cheap
One of my high school buddies had a Commanche, 4.0 with a manual transmission. Compared to what most of us were driving in late 80s/early 90s, that thing felt blindingly quick.
Mine hauls ass . Even by todays standard . And I’ll still get 20mpg out of that 4.0 on the highway .
@@Rancherinaz Same. I have a 96' cherokee xj, and highway I have seen no lower than 19.5 mpg, and that was going over a pass, with new AT tires and 5 people with some cargo.
Correction: I got around 20-21.5 mpg on that trip and I had bald tires and needed an alignment. I was also heading over that same pass after I got new tires, with 3 people and probably around 600+ pounds of cargo including the 3 people and got at least 19.5 mpg.
That 4.0 definitely gets about 14mpg in the city, but I have been pleasantly surprised with it's performance on the highway.
I would prefer the analog Comanche over the sensor stuffed Gladiator anytime.
1 word, Renix. I love older Jeeps, but they drive me nuts!
@@SgtStickyTits Electrical gremlins are why my '88 Comanche sits in the driveway as my project vehicle unfortunately
@@solocamo3654 Story of my life brother. Never owned a Comanche, but I will. Currently on XJ number 7 or 8 now, I lose track. Lol
Not a Jeep guy, but old schooler' all the way. Is there any way to get around all the vacuum hoses and the Renix ignition? And is it possible to build the 5-speed or is a swap doable. Just wondering. Love older iron. Give me this Comanche in the long box version and I'm in heaven.
@@seththomas9105 You can swap in aftermarket ECU stuff, but that honestly just another headache. I have wiring diagrams and stuff for days if you need them.
I love that even with the lift you can reach into the bed. New trucks are so hard to work out of.
That MJ is so full of soul. Gorgeous clean interior; Beautiful level of modification; Still performing great after 30 years. I personally have an '88 XJ Cherokee that I work on in my channel - I will never part with it for these reasons. It was my first vehicle bought over 10 years ago and has never let me down. I watch some TFL - But I ALWAYS watch your videos with this Comanche. It also seems like your dad tends to enjoy newer, high-tech stuff and you enjoy the older, classy stuff! Keep it up, guys.
Old school all the way!!!
Why
@@flight2k5 it looks better and has more usability as a truck.
@@flight2k5
It's cooler.
It's made with 2 purposes in mind. Offroading and Working.
It's easier to work on.
Retired AF CE that’s all opinion right?
yeet is it really easier to work on? Really? The gladiator is built for off-roading 😂🤣. Definitely built heavier.
I miss the days when the main safety equipment occupied the drivers seat
No kidding
I believe I will stay with my 89 Comanche it’s paid for 😂
Kermit Hahahaha a lot of people out there braking the banks cars
I thought Chrysler was crazy to drop the Comanche. I remember watching the commercials when it first came out. Nice truck. I think AMC one of the last new things they did. Always loved the looks of it.
Sportiest looking pickup of all time
I’ll never sell mine
I wish they would bring back the Comanche and Cherokee of that time.
As classic as a Wagner or Bronco.
Comanche is way better looking than a Gladiator
I remember when trucks were actually trucks. No frills and meant for utility. Reg cab with 8' bed is Almost unheard of nowdays. SAD!!!!!!
I have an 89 Comanche that looks a lot like yours (except it’s stock) and it’s my favorite vehicle out of the five I own. Never going to sell it. Ever.
Me too
I can build 5 of the old school jeeps to be just as nice without the complexity for the price of the new one. I'll take 5 old ones over 1 new one 10 out of 10 times.
Blake I’m exactly the same as you mate
OMG! You have 50 trucks!
Good luck finding 5 Comanches worth rebuilding with only a $11k budget for the truck and rebuild.
I don’t know that I’d sell my ‘89 Comanche for 30 grand . It’s still like new and has been the best vehicle I’ve ever owned .
@@canyonero2050 I know where 2 are
give the comanche a couple of Detroit true-tracs and take it off road.
Comanches are so rad!! I just sold my XJ Cherokee (for a decent sum, I might add) and I think I might have to replace it with a Comanche next!
Definitely the Comanche is way better looking than the gladiator
I love the old Comanche, had three over the years. I’m currently building a 2000 XJ. The older Jeeps had more personality.
2 door jeep pickup please.
mozzberg yup I’d buy one
Ya think?
please indeed.
That J6 was sexy.
Nice one! Been waiting for content like this. Couldn’t care less about the Gladiator, but keep the Comanche vids coming 👍
Tak1 - I am very much of the same opinion! Well said.
Tak1 exactly right mate, long live the cheap Jeep
I owned an 88 Comanche for 14 years, loved that truck, wish I still had it.
I’ll take that old-school, work truck, Comanche over the “life style” Gladiator for sure. I like a vehicle that can haul a reasonable load, can do it every day, and can make money. Today, I’m hard pressed to find a single cab medium duty truck.
The rust, 😞oh that horrible rust.
I have a 95 xj Cherokee with 365k on the odometer. She runs great, sounds glorious and her ax-15 is still smooth. And thats with a 4 1/5 inch lift over 33"s. She's been lifted since 180k. And has lived on in the mud.
But those floors. 😭 Oh it hurts. It's like Swiss cheese covered by the nastiest permanently wet carpet. 🤢
And I wouldn't trade her for a new Jeep if you gave me one!
@@bobbydellaserra441 I just bought a 1987 jeep comanche and magicly no rust ell one rust spot but for montana tha is really good
@@joshuaadler4259 oh man that's sick!
What are your plans for it? I've always wanted an MJ to complement the XJ.
What trans did you get in yours?
@@bobbydellaserra441 lets see well its an auto trans I believe the five speed variant which I want to rip out eventually I havent goten under to see which one it is though
as for plans not much I want to eventually upgrade to at least a 3.5-4 inch lift with some larger tires
good solid front and back bumper
a lightbar upfront and two pods off the side/rear
and maybe a good snorkel on her
so not much but enough to keep me safe on the trail
Bobby Della Serra yeah lmao the engines run longer then the body
I would take the Comanche hands down. In fact I had one almost identical to that one it was a 87 they called it the SPORTRUCK
I’ve got an ‘89 shortbed SporTruck
Had it since ‘94 . Best vehicle I’ve ever owned .
I'd love to have that old Comanche 😍
I got to drive one as a work truck back when they were new. It was such a pleasure to run around in.
My dad had a Gray Jeep Comanche like 20 years ago,
2wd automatic
Used to carry a lot of wood logs
Was a nice and dependable truck
Comanche with some lockers and re gear for the tires for the win!!
I love the simplicity of the Comanche. I’d love to see a truck like that available today.
Also, you got solid axles front and back in the Comanche whether you opted for 4wd or not 😂
I personally have owned a Comanche pickup truck and I absolutely loved it it was indeed the best truck I have ever owned
My ‘89 Comanche short bed 4x4 AX15 4.0 is the best vehicle I’ve ever owned . I’ll never sell it .
Well , maybe for 30 grand . Maybe .
Old school man , can’t get any better
The old is much better.
Everyone knockin' on the " old school" denim jacket, while the guy is wearing sneakers from the 50s, glasses from the 40s.
The Comanche is awesome. Especially a short bed manual. The only combination I'd own.
Love mine .
The correct comparation should be: Gladiator vs Scrambler
Yeah double junk comparison
@khronosfateless I beg to differ. Scrambler is based on real jeeps, with real frames, fitted with beds. I'm sure the Scrambler hauls pulls more than the Comanche as well.
@khronosfateless I read it. You said the Comanche was closer related to the gladiator, than the Scrambler. I disagree, and gave my reasons.
@@jonhubbard5787 yeah, his first comment made no sense to me either.
I'll stick with my '87 Comanche 4x4 shortbox, 4.0. The only thing they needed was better paint. Mine already had issues in '92 when I bought it.
All late 80,s and early ‘90’s stuff made in the USA had crap paint . You can thank the EPA for that . It took a few years for paint manufacturers to reformulate a paint that conformed to the EPA standards that would last
The Comanche was always a tough looking truck. Love them!
Thanks for the great effort put into the history of these trucks. It’s good to know where we have been before we decide where to go in the future. For those of us that were around during the time these compact trucks made their debut in the 1980’s it brings great memories. To the younger folks it’s their first time knowing this info. Thanks again.
My first truck was a 88 Comanche Eliminator 4x4. I would buy an old school Comanche to restore before considering the new Jeep. There are a lot of off road customization options that can make that Comanche even more capable than the Gladiator.
I prefer the Comanche!!! I would unfortunately put much more money into it than I could ever get out, but still stay under $20,000, I think.
Slightly larger lift, All Terrain BFGs, same size (better suit my needs and use is all), soften the suspension a bit, give it some flex, new front and rear axels, gearing, rear locker, front limited slip (again for my needs), and 4 wheel disc brakes. Rear bedliner, and turn down the exhaust so it stops melting the bumper! (I’m kind of perplexed why you fellas haven’t corrected the exhaust yet. Money appears not to be the issue.) The Comanche will always have that old school charm, I guess, for me!
I really enjoyed the comparison and you can’t beat the interior of the Gladiator, but that is the only reason, for me, that I like the Gladiator, I otherwise just am not liking it at all. Keep up the good work! Tommy, you are doing so well with this great team of fellas! Thanks again!
just want to mention I have a 1987 comanche and the suspension is ridiculously soft but it rides super nice and it doesnt care about bumps it absorbs them all
Serated Atom - I have never owned one, but always admired them. Is yours still stock?
They used to make the Eliminator in 2wd and 4x4. I always wanted the 2wd for a sport truck, but living in the country with 15 miles of gravel roads I passed on it. Maybe now if I find a nice one. I think they are pretty rare now. Gotta start looking I guess. Haha. I hope your Comanche is good to you for years to come!
@@shitloveaduck yeah its pretty stock the guy who owned it before me basicly used the thing as a work truck no more no less but he kept it ridiculously clean especially for montana the plan is to eventually put a decent lift on it and some nice tires and that's about it I don't plan to trail it hard but have enough accessories that I can have some fun offroad
Too bad you can’t post pictures on TH-cam .
I’d put up a picture of mine .
2052 Comanche is still going, Gladiator was dismantled for scrap 15 years earlier.
Yep !
As the owner of a Comanche almost exactly like that one (4wd lifted same transmission, short box red 3.10 gears etc.) I feel like this represented them pretty well except I swear those aren't the right power numbers for the 4.0 of the year and that transmission isn't as bad as they say. I have 260,000 miles and have used it in Moab and beat the thing hard on thousands of occasions and only broke it once. I blew the reverse by my foot slipping off the clutch with 1600lbs in the bed and it revved up a bit.
I grew up with my grandfather having a Comanche and I want this one or one like it so bad.
copart is a great place to find them cheap
I like the Comanche
I've got a 1993 2d
5speed w/out a 4 inch lift
Old school all the way new one is just ugly
"A knob in his knob" they call that docking these days. The more you know 🌠
Give me that old skool Comanche every day of the week and twice on Sunday!
it would be better if you buy one
Love the flashback music! Great comparison Tommy.
The Gladiator with the diesel will be a great vehicle to off road\modify when its 5+ years or more older and priced accordingly.
Save Triceratops that junky eco diesel no thanks ,, just do a Cummins conversion in it , ,
@@Scepter777 Well This is their 3rd chance at this engine. Time will tell.Cummins is great if you have, time, money and skills to complete this.
still be mid 40s,bloated,overcomplicated and ugly...
Emissions controlled diesels are a nightmare
Definitely the Manche. I got a 89 4x4 short bed 3.5 lift on 33s and it's a beast.
Thanks for making another video about the Commanche
That is a gorgeous Comanche! I’d take that thing over the new one any day of the week!
I'll take the 80's Comanche or scrambler. Love the classics.
What about the j10 Full size truck?
@@Legoguy1979 don't know about that one i will have to look it up. My dad had a 70's jeep wagoneer when i was a kid that was awesome. Would love to have one of them.
I laughed when he said that the old Comanche was very heavily worked. That one looks like it was only driven by an old lady to get to church on Sundays. He obviously doesn’t know what a Heavily Worked truck looks like after 20 years. That Comanche is beautiful!
I had a Comanche back in 86, good little truck. I opted for the four-cylinder fuel injection because the carbureted Chevy V6 ran so horribly. I’ll take a Comanche any day
That 4 banger had more HP than that crappy GM V6 too .
Old school all the way!
Theres so much about the new "gladiator" i cant stand. Older stuff all the way
I had an 88 Sportruck shortbed, 4x4 with the 4L and a 5 speed. Loved it and am currently looking for another. It was the smoothest riding and tightest handling truck I've ever been in.
It also had scary over assisted steering.
Use a stiff stabilizer shock. I changed mine because it was the same.
@@CanadaBud23 Interesting, that would definitely help. Thanks for the tip!
Still have my ‘89 . Best vehicle I’ve ever owned .
Chrysler blew chunks when they discontinued it .
@@Rancherinaz I just picked up another after years of looking, a 1990 Eliminator. They are just fantastic trucks.
YES, the video we need! Thank you! I was wondering if you guys were going to do this! So happy 😊
Can’t compare a rubicon to the commache no challenge I would still prefer the old school jeep
That’s a really beautiful Comanche! I been looking for one for a year but no luck......
Love your video, man! Awesome. I'm old school. I own a 1990 Jeep Cherokee Pioneer with the manual transmission. Gimme that Comanche!!
Great comparison i have two Comanches and you can’t beat the simplicity. I love driving them. If you have a Comanche do yourself s favor and joint the Comanche Club. Lots of in-depth knowledge available in that club. .
Miss seeing your Cherokee on the channel
Comanche is far better than the jt
The Camanche isn't the winner because it costs 45K less, it's the winner because it's design is iconic, simplistic, and beautiful, and because the truck itself is durable, reliable, and practically unkillable
Thank you for your great vids!!
You are well informed & you know your information very well!! I appreciate that!! Job Well Done!! 👍🏻👍🏻
I wish I had a comanche. More than a gladiator 🤷🏻♂️
I have 3 Comanches and I’ll pick my Comanche every single time.
I have an ‘89 Cherokee Sport 2 door, 4.0 litre in the same red as the Comanche. Still running strong and none of issues he was talking about. Use the 4wd all the time as I live in snow country. I did replace the radio, wish I had kept the original...
Had a 86 AMC Cherokee 4x4 with the 2.8 V6 dual cab...... loved that truck!!! Put 14x10 low pros on it aired them to max psi, and floated it across the mud, around Z71s in south Alabama
Old trucks had more character . Blaa 80 early 90's not great but they are "classic"
Comanche! No car payments! Equals more money for upgrades! I wouldnt spend 55.000 just to go offroading!
The Comanche is a really cool old truck. I would buy one of they were available locally, would be perfect for my needs of hauling motorbikes, some off roading and using as my everyday set of wheels.
Great vid i love how honest your channel is
Rear overhang is too long on the gladiator.
Both of them are good in different ways, change my mind.
Agreed, they're two very different vehicles meant for very different things... that being said, i personally find the older style more charming.. but that's based more on nostalgia then factual reasons.
My first car was a 1988 blue Comanche. I loved that truck and wish I still had it.
Still have my blue ‘89
I'll take the Comanche and throw another 10k into it and still have saved over 35k that I can use to actually enjoy the Comanche. Fun over fashion any day!
Old school for me as well. Often thought of a mash up between a XJ (4 door) and a Comanche SB to get a retro Gladiator ish Jeep.
You seem to has forgotten the S10 pickup when talking about the competition of the time,and the Gladiator has to many things on it to go wrong on it over time,and the price is far to high.
mbsnyderc
What? Nobody cares about the S10. It’s all about the S-15...
Jake Kelly Kelly
Yeah, I know man. That was part of the joke but the GMC twins usually get skipped over and forgotten.
Got
Mechanic
Comin’
😆😂😆😆
@@Rancherinaz You can't fix your own vehicles.
I love both of them in their perspective purposes and categories.. good video bro 😎 👍🏾 godbless
Great video. I just picked up a 91 comanche 4x4 5spd shortbed with the 4.0 HO engine. Looking forward to fixing it up a bit. Been sitting for years, but it runs great! And very fast for a truck of this vintage. And best of all, no electrical gadgets I don't need or want.
The work truck !! 👍🏼 who needs all those driver aides 🙄
Yeah dude boo advancements lets all live in the past
GILAD TSELNIKER lollll
@@giladtselniker8420 Not living in the past, we just have skill in driving. Don't worry, cars will drive themselves eventually and everyone can hold your hand.
If you can't drive. a computer helping just makes you a danger!
James Gerke The computer helps me avoid collisions with those that can’t drive. Plenty of those on the roads these days.
...that 80's dance pop soundtrack 😆👍
I like the old school. That connection between the driver and the car.
I'm a Ford guy but, I'd buy a Comanche hands down over any new/newer Jeep pick up. Always loved them! Just a cool truck!
If you love four wheelin’ in the city and getting stuck on dirt roads, the new Gladiator is for you!!!
Great looking Comanche!!!!
I drive a 89 Manche. One of my good friends just bought a Gladiator and we both hate it. There's just something about the way those old Jeeps purr.
Ax-15 was definitely worth the upgrade from the Peugeot... Especially since it was $30 every time my shifter popped out of the Peugeot. Used Ax-15 was only $150, it bolted right up and felt really nice
Luckily my ‘89 is a late ‘89 . It had the AX15 in it .
"So once again Jeep is once again, back in a partnership with Peugot. How funny is that?" Not funny.. not funny at all! It's terrible news; it's grave, horrible news. haha
Remember, Peugeot OK'd the XJ/MJ design. Won't help any really since yuppy kids run it these days.
I've owned a Peugeot. I was warned, but still i tried. Would never buy a car that has Peugeot parts in it. Maybe they make great designs but definitively terrible engineering.
Jeep is owned by Fiat.
@@emanuelnamseth1469 Very aware- Fiat owns Puegot also. Puegot and Renault were involved in the worst parts of Jeep, before Chrysler purchased them for the 1988 model year. Fiat has completely left the larger Jeep models to be entirely handled and created by Chrysler's Jeep team. The smaller Jeeps currently produced are however, are almost all rebadged Fiats. Better to stick with the 90's 4.0l Jeeps or larger newer Jeeps, like the Grand Cherokee, Gladiator, Wrangler, and the new upcoming Grand/ Wagoneer.
@@PavelNr1 Actually that is what they do. French cars in general are almost purely about Design and Inovation. They do not use their resources to make cars that are easy to work on, or that are reliable.
If Jeep remade an ‘angular’ rendition of the Cherokee that was a tribute to the originals... I’d actually buy a Chrysler product
You look like Arturo's dad from Red Dawn with that jacket on. 😂🤣 Definite 80's flash back.
Most people seem to love the older ones. Me included. I wish they would make new old Cherokee body style Jeeps with modern safety. It can be done.
Jeep needs to come out with an extended cab Gladiator.
How about a regular cab,
I’m way too tall for that.
Yeah, I want a standard cab
Just buy a ram rebel or power wagon at that point, you’d also drive a non ugly truck at that point too
Jeep is coming back out with a Scrambler idea. Three different cab options. Two bed lengths, and three different motors. One of witch being a turbo diesel.
Old school Comanche 💪💪💪💪💪
Old school. My first truck was a 1984 Nissan 720 that was re built from the ground up . The Simplicity and honesty of trucks of that era it's something I look forward to again when I purchase a vehicle to rebuild in the future