@@theblobfish9614 In the event of a snap off with a conventional inline lead the fish will be left trailing the leader and the mainline. With this system the fish is only left with the hooklength like what would happen with a chod or helicopter. I think if this system was brought out by Korda (I think it's patented so they can't) people would be going crazy for it.
@@carper123 okay yeah i can see that, been a while since i watched this video originally. I still dont see paying 8 bucks for a lead. I pay one. And also: when i learned to fish we used to have a leader that was lighter than the mainline, whats happened to that in carpfishing?
I'm a massive fan of inlines, semi fixed rigs and the COG system and this ticks all my boxes on what I want in a rig. I'll be getting a couple for sure albeit begrudgingly because of the price tag.
Very innovative lead system, only PB comes close with a similar concept. Much saver than most other companies leads. In case of a break off the carp is only left with the hooklink instead of trailing some length of leader/mainline.
Well the mgic twig does actually work to catch you more, it was jus a massive flop due to unsafe design mainly but it did catch.This is in no way comparable to the twig, it doesn't have any known safety issues. Both will actually help you catch more though so im not really sure what your attempt at a joke means.
Lot of people don’t understand this system. When the line breaks the fish will be left with the rig only that is the difference. Now they complain about the price like carp fishing is an expensive hobby to begin with.
@gicechicken7062 i never said anything about safety. these look fantasic and safe and to be honest it they was say 5quid I would have had a couple to try pal
it's different because of the fact that the fish doesn't swim around with the mainline aftere a line break! only the rig therefor it's much saver for the fish!!!!!
You can also use an inline lead with a removable insert. Put a swivel or quick change clip in the lead, works almost the same and is also fish friendly
Not that same, if you snap off with the setup you've described the fish is left trailing mainline and the leader. With this system it's just left with the hook length.
@@AndyNubergyes if it snaps above the leader the fish will still be able to shed the leader and will only be trailing a hooklength. Look closely at how it's set up it's a completely different principle to the rig you've described. In your example the fish will be trailing everything. In this setup it's just left with the hooklength like a helicopter rig.
You can also fish it straight on you Fluorocarbon for example! Remove the Dropdown Leader and attach it by yourself. So you dont need any leader material for this...😀@@simonashmead3162
Just been on their website… “from £7.99”, however including postage to the UK for ONE 5oz version (not that I want one this heavy, but they appear to have very limited stock) is £16.98!! Free postage starts at £40…I think I’ll make do with what I have.
So what im understanding here is, if Korda have done it, no one else can? Im pretty sure you can compare this situation to supermarkets and they're own foods. Everyone will go and copy it regardless putting their own twist on it. Dont see how crapping all over a company's product just because its a similar design to some other companies. Looks like a great bit of kit and I like the concept will definitely get one and give it a go. For those who this is 'too expensive' for im sure Lidl or Aldi will bring out their version in about 5 years you can get one then!
Appriciate new idea's ect...but if it's over designed, it's just costly. A lead is cheap because it's simple. It's not like we are all blanking with normal leads, wondering if it's the lead lol.
@PolePositionTackle that's the only bit that's a bit crap with leads tbh. I like the idea of drilling stones, but I'm too dumb to be messing about with drills n that 😆 Luckily I don't fish waters choked with weed and snags too often, so I don't dump leads per fish ect. Soon we will be looking for gravel and landing on someone else's lead like "that's a spot" lol
I can garantee all these muppets moaning about the price and comparing it to korda's lead were doing the same when the cog came out. Crying that its nothing new! Neither are your boring useless comments
@@dermotcolgan i totally get that, when you dont put the stupid little peg in, but it still a lead with a hole in that is on a lead clip. The only comparison is that it lifts from the centre mass of the lead. Pole Positions is a machined inline lead with a nice little system that works very well. The cog doesnt work very well. If you use both you will see, that they are nothing alike and will notice that there is nothing like it on the market.
@@dermotcolgan fair comment, but if you take into account how good running rigs are with catch rates (as in harder to shake off) and the science behind the centre of the weight pull mass. Then as inline running sytems go, then this is a bit of a game changer. Its not a game changer as in your going to catch more fish, then no your right 😂
Looks like a cool system and the price is fine imo. Just think about how much you spend on say going out for a meal, after that it just comes out as waste. With products like this you can use them more than once! i dare anyone to show they can eat their food again after it comes out the other end :D
@@justinford8996It's not like you are dropping the lead each time, bet you and many others on a good weekend will drop £10 on leads. And if they are fishing many of the RK waters, this isn't for them anyways as they would be dropping leads. Which when you are spending over 2k on a RK ticket is nothing...and i agree prices are ridiculous at many places now. I fear for the price increase at Woolpack now it's under new ownership. This is targeted at the average angler who will keep their leads and fishes day tickets/runs waters. And if a day ticket this item is probably cheaper than 1 day of fishing, or a KG of bait from a good supplier. If we want to talk about ludicrously expensive items, we should talk about high end bite alarms where for about £10 of electronics and plastic you are paying ~ £250 each.
All this is is a different variation on the cog lead korda brought out a few years back but for me I know you get the complete kit the price is still a little steep especially when we're in the middle of a credit crunch or whatever you call it I know 1 person who can spend £8 on food for a few days rather than waste it on 1 lead setup system no thanks from me
I've lost end tackle in over hanging trees due to miss judgement or wind. That would cost me, conservatively, £16.00 per session on a typical day, I'll give it a miss and spend my money on casting tutors and common sense.
When I first went to France I used to fish semi running rig. Lost the first 2. Changed back to a normal lead clip and landed the next 10. I'll stick with a fixed set up.
@@CarpFish1 the cog is only free running if you dont put the peg in the lead clip, so its still a lead clip system thats crap in weed. I do get what your saying, but its still an inline lead working as a 100% running rig. So the only comparison is that it pulls from the centre of the lead.
@@simonashmead3162 well ive used both and the only comparison is the centre lift of the weight. Kordas is on a lead clip system and is very basic and easy to make yourself. Pole positions is an inline lead running system that has been machined (good look making your own) So really its an evolution of an idea from pulling from the centre of the weight, which korda didnt do first either. Dont Trakker copy Aqua bivvy designs? and nobody gives a hoot about that? Didnt all Nash copy Kordas maggot clip? and nobody cares there too? This lead system is good, expensive, but its good, should give it a try then you will see its nothing like the Cog system (have you used that?) infact dont bother the Cog system isnt very good
Its nothing like the kirda cog, except the system is lifted from the centre??? Kordas is semi fixed on a lead clip, its not a running lead like this is
U cam make the korda one a running lead its simple....these videos are never a honest review always ars lickin which product there advertising.... sheep
@@sharpercarper2072 Not that same as the Korda one it's a completely different principle. If you snap off with this system the fish is left just with the hook length and not trailing line and a leader.
More 🐂💩 products no one really needs next we will be using drones cameras & echo finders just to catch a carp . Or you could use old fashion watercraft and skill built up over years of fishing properly 🍺🍺
This is something that definitely targets the anglers more than the fish
Why? Seems way safer than a standard inline/lead clip system.
I dont think so. With an inline lead the carp also just has to pull a swivel out of a rubber tube
@@theblobfish9614 In the event of a snap off with a conventional inline lead the fish will be left trailing the leader and the mainline.
With this system the fish is only left with the hooklength like what would happen with a chod or helicopter.
I think if this system was brought out by Korda (I think it's patented so they can't) people would be going crazy for it.
@@carper123 okay yeah i can see that, been a while since i watched this video originally. I still dont see paying 8 bucks for a lead. I pay one. And also: when i learned to fish we used to have a leader that was lighter than the mainline, whats happened to that in carpfishing?
Can see the pectoral fin getting caught in the doubled over section, not being a hater just a valid point, keep it simple and safe
I'm a massive fan of inlines, semi fixed rigs and the COG system and this ticks all my boxes on what I want in a rig. I'll be getting a couple for sure albeit begrudgingly because of the price tag.
Very innovative lead system, only PB comes close with a similar concept. Much saver than most other companies leads. In case of a break off the carp is only left with the hooklink instead of trailing some length of leader/mainline.
Thanks!
This definitely catches as many fish as the “Magic Twig” 😂
Well the mgic twig does actually work to catch you more, it was jus a massive flop due to unsafe design mainly but it did catch.This is in no way comparable to the twig, it doesn't have any known safety issues. Both will actually help you catch more though so im not really sure what your attempt at a joke means.
Watch more underwater films mate then you will know better
It catches more then the magic twig as the twig is banned lol
Lot of people don’t understand this system. When the line breaks the fish will be left with the rig only that is the difference. Now they complain about the price like carp fishing is an expensive hobby to begin with.
8 quid that's a hard pass from me
Safety first
@gicechicken7062 i never said anything about safety. these look fantasic and safe and to be honest it they was say 5quid I would have had a couple to try pal
@@gicechicken7062Anyone with common sense fishes safe so your comment is ?
Similar to another company.
8 quid! i paid a tenner for 5,3oz pebbles now that's a game changer
Would be nice to know if the leader is lead free or not, as my club lake has a lead core ban.
Its lead free mate
Yes it is ;)
Would the system still work if you were using a PVA mesh bag/stick or would the weight of the PVA mesh bag/stick pull the swivel out when casting?
@@DanBoy1976 what? I barely comment on anything. You got me mixed up with someone else?
you got the wrong bloke dude!! you should check your facts before slagging everyone off!! 😈@@DanBoy1976
Great stuff
These have been out years and I'm with the guy below 😊
Can i it be used in conjunction with the twig? Them 2 coupled up with my nash baiting pole (complete with 100 sections) carp wont stand a chance
they are blocking comments saying that its over priced!!!!!
Have these been tested on the rivers for barbel etc ? 🎣
Isn’t it like a hybrid cog system that Korda did?
That’s what I thought
it's different because of the fact that the fish doesn't swim around with the mainline aftere a line break! only the rig therefor it's much saver for the fish!!!!!
Rubbish the lot of it
Still will be swimming around with leadcore so exactly the same as the COG 😂
Absolutly not🙃.. He explains it in the video......@@LeeHadley
Can it be used in pva bags?
You don't need to
That's not the question .they were asking if they could be put in a pva bag .I am hoping to when I go nxt wk
You can also use an inline lead with a removable insert. Put a swivel or quick change clip in the lead, works almost the same and is also fish friendly
Not that same, if you snap off with the setup you've described the fish is left trailing mainline and the leader. With this system it's just left with the hook length.
@@carper123 you cannot say it snaps of at the rig, it can snap of above the leader as well ;)
@@AndyNubergyes if it snaps above the leader the fish will still be able to shed the leader and will only be trailing a hooklength. Look closely at how it's set up it's a completely different principle to the rig you've described.
In your example the fish will be trailing everything. In this setup it's just left with the hooklength like a helicopter rig.
so the side the line doubles up creates a loop in the line that could potentially get snagged?
Keep it simple and safe
So a cog lead from korda then
But Fish Safe;)
The korda cog is a semi fixed lead on a lead clip…. So no not a cog lead
Is it lead free leader?
What venue is this?
Can this be fished with out leadcore ? As my syndicate has a leadcore ban
Ofcourse. The ActionPacks are ready to go with our lead-free 'Drop Down' leader material 😀
@@PolePositionTackle on the syndicate I fish we are not allowed any leaders or leadcore only rig tubing
You can also fish it straight on you Fluorocarbon for example! Remove the Dropdown Leader and attach it by yourself. So you dont need any leader material for this...😀@@simonashmead3162
Just been on their website… “from £7.99”, however including postage to the UK for ONE 5oz version (not that I want one this heavy, but they appear to have very limited stock) is £16.98!! Free postage starts at £40…I think I’ll make do with what I have.
A “game changer” that’s pretty much already been done
Or just use a standard method feeder?
A lot of money. I wonder what a blob of silkweed would do to the safety element of the leader feeding through the housing?
You must always take the circumstances into account. The system continues to function sufficiently to remain fish-safe 😀
So what im understanding here is, if Korda have done it, no one else can? Im pretty sure you can compare this situation to supermarkets and they're own foods. Everyone will go and copy it regardless putting their own twist on it. Dont see how crapping all over a company's product just because its a similar design to some other companies. Looks like a great bit of kit and I like the concept will definitely get one and give it a go. For those who this is 'too expensive' for im sure Lidl or Aldi will bring out their version in about 5 years you can get one then!
I like it 👍
There's always one
@@wendyd.5594 yes you are correct… there is always one Wendy 😮💨
Same principle as the bolt system I fish here in the US
Is this just a center of gravity system that korda already has
but save
I don't think you can slide the lead off and keep it all set up on your rod? have to pack it all away each time?
You actually can! No more bumps against the rod;)
If the lead lands upside down on the lake bed after the cast then the cog aspect can't operate, can it?
Due to the parachute affect of the trailing nature of the hooklink and bait it will allways ensure the lead lands the correct way
Appriciate new idea's ect...but if it's over designed, it's just costly. A lead is cheap because it's simple. It's not like we are all blanking with normal leads, wondering if it's the lead lol.
Its leadfree material
@PolePositionTackle that's the only bit that's a bit crap with leads tbh. I like the idea of drilling stones, but I'm too dumb to be messing about with drills n that 😆
Luckily I don't fish waters choked with weed and snags too often, so I don't dump leads per fish ect. Soon we will be looking for gravel and landing on someone else's lead like "that's a spot" lol
What rod use in this film?
Nash dwarf cork 9ft
Game changer 🙄😏😂
Game changer 😂
Mmm interesting idea…. How much! 😮
I can garantee all these muppets moaning about the price and comparing it to korda's lead were doing the same when the cog came out. Crying that its nothing new! Neither are your boring useless comments
👏 👏 👏
Seems like a cut off of pb products hit and run inline system bar the centre of the weight rig exit...
nice I like it
How is it a Game Changer? Korda COG did exactly this several years ago !
Korda cog isnt a running lead system
@@thecowboycarper Korda COG can be fished fixed or running th-cam.com/video/jnDDa9fka6w/w-d-xo.html
@@dermotcolgan i totally get that, when you dont put the stupid little peg in, but it still a lead with a hole in that is on a lead clip.
The only comparison is that it lifts from the centre mass of the lead.
Pole Positions is a machined inline lead with a nice little system that works very well.
The cog doesnt work very well.
If you use both you will see, that they are nothing alike and will notice that there is nothing like it on the market.
@@thecowboycarper I wasn't particularly commenting on the product itself, just the term "GAME-CHANGING", I don't believe it is.
@@dermotcolgan fair comment, but if you take into account how good running rigs are with catch rates (as in harder to shake off) and the science behind the centre of the weight pull mass.
Then as inline running sytems go, then this is a bit of a game changer.
Its not a game changer as in your going to catch more fish, then no your right 😂
Looks like a cool system and the price is fine imo. Just think about how much you spend on say going out for a meal, after that it just comes out as waste. With products like this you can use them more than once! i dare anyone to show they can eat their food again after it comes out the other end :D
Yeah, just think how much a house costs. This is cheap!! 😂
@@Jameslow2486 lol :D
Wtf. Why bother eating at all. Just think of all the money you will save that you can then spend on garbage such as this
@@justinford8996It's not like you are dropping the lead each time, bet you and many others on a good weekend will drop £10 on leads. And if they are fishing many of the RK waters, this isn't for them anyways as they would be dropping leads. Which when you are spending over 2k on a RK ticket is nothing...and i agree prices are ridiculous at many places now. I fear for the price increase at Woolpack now it's under new ownership.
This is targeted at the average angler who will keep their leads and fishes day tickets/runs waters. And if a day ticket this item is probably cheaper than 1 day of fishing, or a KG of bait from a good supplier. If we want to talk about ludicrously expensive items, we should talk about high end bite alarms where for about £10 of electronics and plastic you are paying ~ £250 each.
All this is is a different variation on the cog lead korda brought out a few years back but for me I know you get the complete kit the price is still a little steep especially when we're in the middle of a credit crunch or whatever you call it I know 1 person who can spend £8 on food for a few days rather than waste it on 1 lead setup system no thanks from me
Be nice if thay respond to emails about 2 missing items from my order
That's my edge gone ffs.
Why? Where has it gone all of a sudden? Will the fish know and stay away....
I've lost end tackle in over hanging trees due to miss judgement or wind. That would cost me, conservatively, £16.00 per session on a typical day, I'll give it a miss and spend my money on casting tutors and common sense.
£8 for a lead and some leadcore mental . It’s not new it’s just a cog system. I’ll pass cheers
Its not lead its leadfree material, its not leadcore but our leadfree Dropdown material and its not even look like a COG system😅..
System has been out years a lot cheaper too so il pass
When I first went to France I used to fish semi running rig. Lost the first 2. Changed back to a normal lead clip and landed the next 10. I'll stick with a fixed set up.
So basically it’s the cog system just changed the weight and the style
No!!!
The cog system is a semi fixed lead on a lead clip, this is a running lead???
@@thecowboycarper but its basically the cog system just a different way to set it up and the old cog system is free running as well
@@CarpFish1 the cog is only free running if you dont put the peg in the lead clip, so its still a lead clip system thats crap in weed.
I do get what your saying, but its still an inline lead working as a 100% running rig.
So the only comparison is that it pulls from the centre of the lead.
it doesn't look like it at all.....@@CarpFish1
Basically PB products hit n run system 😅
It's the same person behind this that created the PB one.
Bait the key not rigs not the nuw tackle
Crazy price 😂
8 quid ffs you really don't need this shit to catch carp you just dont it doesn't matter what lake you are on carp fishing today makes me chuckle 😂
So basically they’ve copied the COG lead with a PB Products hit and run system - innovative! 🤔
Haven’t you just copied Korda cog lead system
Errrrm!!! Nope 🤔
@@thecowboycarper yep 👍
@@simonashmead3162 well ive used both and the only comparison is the centre lift of the weight.
Kordas is on a lead clip system and is very basic and easy to make yourself.
Pole positions is an inline lead running system that has been machined (good look making your own)
So really its an evolution of an idea from pulling from the centre of the weight, which korda didnt do first either.
Dont Trakker copy Aqua bivvy designs? and nobody gives a hoot about that?
Didnt all Nash copy Kordas maggot clip? and nobody cares there too?
This lead system is good, expensive, but its good, should give it a try then you will see its nothing like the Cog system (have you used that?) infact dont bother the Cog system isnt very good
Can’t fault it used it before Xmas and now haven’t missed a fish 🎣
Korda has been on this for years, so don't understand your logic 🙄
Its nothing like the kirda cog, except the system is lifted from the centre???
Kordas is semi fixed on a lead clip, its not a running lead like this is
rip off
what?🙃
All these broke boys moaning about it being overpriced 😅😅 if you cant afford it dont buy it simples
😅😅😅load shiza
Just under a tenner for a lead 🤣 keep the leads 😂
More of the same !
Yeah cog lead no new idea here just a rehash
Nowt new there korda did it years ago lmao
Korda’s is on a lead clip and is semi fixed, this is a running lead???
U cam make the korda one a running lead its simple....these videos are never a honest review always ars lickin which product there advertising.... sheep
@@sharpercarper2072 Not that same as the Korda one it's a completely different principle. If you snap off with this system the fish is left just with the hook length and not trailing line and a leader.
Kissing carp, come on why?
Stuff that it's a rip off.
That price is just ridiculous, I’m already spending more than 25£ a session 🤷♂️
Copy of Korda cog system lmao carp fishing tackle has become comical 🤦♂️🤡🤡
You are correct it has become comical 👍
But comparing a running lead system to a semi fixed lead clip one, is a bit comical too
Nothing like the COG system
More 🐂💩 products no one really needs next we will be using drones cameras & echo finders just to catch a carp . Or you could use old fashion watercraft and skill built up over years of fishing properly 🍺🍺
Nothing new anymore mate
More pointless rubbish
Game changer 😅😅😅😅😅 it's just a cog weight,christ your getting useless
Its a running lead, not a semi fixed lead clip one like the cog is
Korda cog ripoff
It doesn't even look the same and it certainly doesn't work the same...
Would this work in a PVA bag??