Can You Rebel Against an Oppressive Muslim Ruler?
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May Allah سبحان و تعالى reward you both Jannatul Firdaws, What you did was emazing, listened without single interference with ads, Iam a student of Sheikh studying here in TH-cam, I benefited alot and you inspired me alot, May Allah bless you and the organisation a great thawab, please if their is any other streams or media that sheikh provides knowledge apart from TH-cam let's us know, and where does the madrasah located in UAE, I would like to recommend to my family and friends living their. Jazakumullah kheyr
@@raniergalis9816 He takes classes in Kalemah Islamic Center which is Dubai..
جزاك الله خيرا
Time stamps pls ?
@@afrid1212 A brother is working on it..
《First hour Timestamps》
0:01>> Podcast begins with an ayah from surah Ra'ad.
01:00>> The two positions we are going to represent by Ustadh Shahid Hassan.
04:08>> What's the reason behind our discussion today.
05:59>> Some advice for the Viewers by Ustadh Shahid Hassan.
08:03>> The topics we will discuss by the permission of Allah.
11:55>> Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan presents His views .
13:49>> If Allah and His Messenger rule something We are obliged to obey.
28:19>> The issue of Khurooj(Rebellion) is it an Ijtihad(Independent reasoning) or Aqeedah(Belief) issue and further expounding by Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan.
20:27>> Summary of what We discussed so far.
44:10>> It's obligatory to appoint Muslim Ruler.
55:47>> What's is the wisdom behind appointing a Ruler.
57:41>> It's not permissible to place a Disbeliever over the ruler ship of the Muslims.
59:29>> There is an Ijma'(consensus) from two Imam Ibn Qayyim and Al qaadi ibn Iyaad on appointment of Disbeliever as Ruler.
1:00:15>> The 'ulema they clarified what كفر بواح is.
1:01:12>> The hadith about manifest kufr and Ibn Hibban narration sbout clear sin and Ustadh's full explanation.
《Second hour》
1:07:29>> Turning disobedience into Kufr is the madhab of the Khawarij.
1:10:19>> The Ruler who is being placed in Authority has to be a Muslim who is just.
1:11:44>> Ibn Abdul barr in Istiskhar volume 5 and further expounding by Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan.
1:18:12>> The Ayah 124 in surah baqarah and it's proper meaning expounded by Ustadh Abdulrahman hassan.
1:31:01>>The summarisation.
1:35:32>> 《Sixth principle》 is that Ahlu Sunnah wal Jamaah believe that going against the oppressive Muslim Rulers is wrong and obedience to Him is must as long as He doesn't command evil.
1:40:04>> Hadiths Ayaat that mentions obedience to the Rulers and Ustadh's explanation of it.
2:01:20>> The Ijma' on not rebelling against the Oppressive Muslim Rulers
2:33:13>> The summarisation of the seventh principle by Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan.
2:47:13>> 《Eight principle 》 It's haram to go around spreading the shortcomings and mistakes of the Muslim ruler and incidents related to it by Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan.
《Third Hour Timestamps 》
3:48:26>> 《Tenth Principle 》How do We appoint a Muslim Rulers and that's done in two way......
《Fourth hour Timestamps 》
4:06:19>> Are We obliged to obey and listen to the Muslim Ruler in absolutely everything and Ustadh's provides valuable points related to it.
4:31:53>> Someone say I dont reject the ahadith and the Ijma' You brought , but you are misunderstanding to whom they apply to.......and further expounding.
4:59:08>> مَنْ قُتِلَ دُونَ مالِهِ فهوَ شَهيدٌ and how it should it be understood properly by Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan
《Fifth hour Timestamps 》
5:03:56>> The statement of Shaykhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah " There is no listening and obeying to sinful Rulers except in that which is a must.
5:08:37>> The doubt they bring that all the hadiths You said are about the Muslim Rulers and not the Rulers of today, also the pledge of allegiance issue expounded by Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan.
5:21:15>>They say the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said " You will listen to the great Amir" and the fact that the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم used the term "great leader" means there is only one caliph and Ustadh responds in three ways.
5:24:42>> The statement of Imam Nawawi We brought before on the hadith of sahih muslim and Ustadh's response to it.
5:26:27>> Ibn Hazm attempts to reject the hadiths You mentioned on patience to the oppressive ruler and He does that in four ways Namely........
5:44:11>> Imam Ahmed about the meaning of the hadith "whoever dies without an Imam......." and Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan response to it.
《Sixth Hour Timestamps 》
6:11:37>> Muawiyah ibn Abi Sufyan and those after Him were mistaken when they allowed leadership to be inheritance.
6:23:12>> Is the pledge of allegiance binding only on the one who undertakes it or also for those who don't undertake it.
6:26:34>> The kind of agreement that's in place between the Hakim(Ruler) and the Mahkum(Subjects) .......... and Ustadh's further explanations.
6:39:31>> The shariah has actually warned and gave severe warning to the people......
6:44:20>>You mentioned the term أهل الحلّ والعقد (The People of Ijtihad) , some might say the rights of choosing the Rulers is not restricted to these special group of People.
6:49:40>> 《The main Topic 》 The issue of khurooj, whether it's permissible to rebel against the oppressive Muslim Rulers and Ustadh's Introduction.
6:58:00>> The khurooj of the Grandson of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم Hussein رضي الله عنه وأرضاه and People who make it Istihlal(Halal) to rebel due to it.
《The Seventh Hour Timestamps 》
7:36:45>> What's Your position on the whole situation ,the leaving that Husayn did was it an erroneous decision and deep investigation.
《Eighth hour Timestamps 》
8:01:21>>They say as long as you admit that there was khilaf at the time of the salaaf before the ijma........
8:06:46>> The issue of the khurooj of Hussein رضي الله عنه وأرضاه in comprehensive manner and detailed response.
8:11:35>> Another doubt they bring and Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan addresses it properly.
8:24:42>>Hussain gave Bay'ah to Muawiyah and not His son Yazid and further expounding by Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan.
8:27:50 hussein hears that the people of Kufa have broken their contract with Yazid.
>8:32:27>>Ibn Taymiyyah mentions that the hadiths about the one who breaks the unity of the Muslims doesn't apply to the Hussein Ra and further explanations.
8:33:32>>Imam Ibn Jarir Al-Tabari He mentions that Abdullah Ibn Umar (Ra) He went to Husayn (Ra) and Ibn Zubayr(Ra) and said.....
8:34:31>>someone might say Hussein Ra come back back from this after He realised He no longer had power and Ibn Taymiyyah responds to this doubt they bring.
8:37:46>> summarising the issue we discussed so far بإذن الله تعالى
8:44:06>> Shaykhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah says in His Minhaj Us Sunnah that Husayn Ra didn't leave Mecca with the intention of fighting, instead what He thought was that they were going to give Him Bay'ah but they deceived Him.
8:47:56 >> The day of Harra and what happened on that day.
8:52:56>> The Army of the repentant Men who went out to seek the revenge for the murder of Husayn رضي الله عنه وأرضاه
8:57:44>> The Questions posed to Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan by Brother Shahid Hassan.
《Ninth Hour Timestamps 》
9:03:38>> The doubt they bring that Husayn was going for the Caliphate when He set off for Kufah and Ustadh's complete explanation of it.
9:09:44>> The statement they make that husayn made no mistake Shar'an(According to shariah) and statements related to it.
9:27:00>> The history of Abdullah ibn Al Zubair and why He withheld from giving pledge of allegiance to Yazid ibn Muawiyah and issues related to it addressed by Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan.
9:40:20>> When the House of Allah the kaabah was besieged and bombarded with catapults by Yazid's army and issues pertaining to it.
9:47:07>> The questions posed by Ustadh Shahid Hassan to Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan concerning khurooj.
9:58:19>> The fitan of Ibn Al Ash'ath and questions related to it.
《Tenth Hour Timestamps 》
10:13:19 >> The khurooj of Saeed ibn Jubair and clarifying His issue related plus beneficial points by Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan.
10:23:38>> The issue of Ibn Abdul Barr in his instidkhar addressed again.
10:36:47>> Ibn Hajar al Asqalani in His fathul bari He says the Scholars say You cannot appoint a Fasiq over the Muslims as a Leader.
10:38:50>> The Son of Muhammad ibn Abdulwahab says there's valid difference of opinions.
10:43:24>> The four madhahibs and their stances on khurooj.
《Eleventh hour Timestamps 》
11:09:50>> The statement of Ibn Hazm adddresed by ustadh ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan.
11:26:21>> The reason why khurooj is not permissible is because of the greater harm in it.
11:33:03>> The day of Harra and what happened.
Barakallah kheyran br.
Barakallahu feek il keep you in my duas ❤️
Assalam caleykum brother do you know where i can listen to the recitation of the quran in the beginning or who is the reciter that recitation is something special.❤️🙏🏾
Haven't even started watching the video but barakallahu feek bro
@@user-hm5mw9er3y It’s AbdulRahman Hasan himself
May Allāh preserve our Ustadh AbdulRahman Hassan. May Allāh make us Scholars of the Sunnah who defend His deen with His permission Subhan’ahu wa’ ta’la.
Ameen
امين
Ameen ya Rabb
Ameeen akhi
Ameen
I was able to watch six hours of this video, i have to say the word slaughter does not does give it justice at all, i have never seen soo many shubuhaat destroyed in soo many different ways. It was a great motivation for me to seek knowledge even more, memorize more. May Allah bless Madrasatu al umariyyah and the team.
Allahu akbar!
@@hardcoreholly1161 we defend the sunnah and the aqeedah of islam not rulers, look at his channel do you see him talking about rulers or goverments??? Exactly the only people who care what the rulers
Are
Truly doing
Are your hizb? Get a life and follow the sunnah!
@@yassinbana9427 wassup habibi u got 118 likes u think u cool huh
@@Abu_Abdullah790 says the one who got thousands before 😂👊🏾
@@yassinbana9427 lol
I’ve known Ustadh Abdurahman Hassan my whole life. Yes. I’ve loved his representation of Islam. May Allah send us all to Jannah.
امين
can you tell me about his life. where he learned Islam and how he reached at this stage? who were his teachers?
@@1eV th-cam.com/video/5zb1zQHJRMg/w-d-xo.html
@@1eV he had a podcast on that
This is what happens when you call out Ustadh Abdurahman Hassan.
ALLAH HU AKBAR!
Hajji will expose his distortions and technicalities, only a layman would be fooled by this
@@AbdulH97 The only thing Hajji will expose is his ignorance to the public. He bit off more than he can chew. I think this video will be enough to prove that. Time will tell what he says....
@@AbdulH97 "only a layman"
So all the 30+ imams who declared ijmaa like Bukhari and Ahmad are laymen as well of the millions of scholars who are included in this ijmaa?
People on twitter and youtube and going to break the ijmaa of scholars in the religion?
@Ibrahim Ibn Mahmud I watched the first 3 hours and then made this statement
@@أبوشغل
Ibn Hajar in Tahdhib: The aqeedah of the early salaf was the rebelling was permissible. Try again
one of the most beneficial clearing doubts video I have ever seen, let's start learning our deen brothers and sisters wallahy its the time when ignorant leads ingorants
We have to start with Tawhid, follow right Aqida and Manhaj (method, order etc.)
watch : **"The Prosperity Of Our Dawah: Advice To The Salafis In The US | Najeeb Al Anjelesi"**
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 barakallah fiyk, wa jazakallah kheyr
@@TheOneLogic69 If you can learn it in a day how do we have millions who still go to graves to invoke the dead and think what they are doing isn't shirk?
@@TheOneLogic69 we were created by Allah to worship him and know him which is tawhid. Your implying it’s not the most important thing
@@TheOneLogic69 he mentioned all the refrence, if you really want to know the truth then you will go to books your self, you want the sheikh to show you every proof in book lol he ain't talking to kids here? He ain't like BH who brings few proofs that in which with his low of knowledge fails to understand and grasp the root meaning. I bet you didn't even listen, look all countries who had khuruj and see how they now suffer. This is ilm and Allah says and ''ask people of knowledge if you do not know" BH is a layman as he claims so he is faaaaar from people of knowledge, he is not even allowed to talk anything about deen coz he will misguide according to his status of being layman. this matter of religion is not as As Manchester and Arsenal . BE Careful am not here to debate. ASALAAM ALEYKUM
Podcast TimeStamps
01:00- Clearify their positions
04:09- Purpose of this discussion
05:59- Advice for people Listening
08:04- List of topics convering
12:01- Introduction by Ustadh AbdurRahman
13:50 - First Principle
28:14 - Is Rebel Against Muslim Rulers : Ijtihad or Aqeedah?
40:33 - Summary of the discussion till now
44:14 - 2nd Principle : About Appointed a Leader
54:48 - 3rd Principle
Jazakallahu Khaira
Whoah! This is really 12 hours?! Allahumma baarik! May Allah reward Ustadh and his family...
Actually 14 because it continues with another video which is 2 h
@@faisalbarliandi3204 yes they edited the video to remove breaks
@@m.a5905 that makes sense
May Allah Azawajjal resurrect Ustadh with the best among the ummah. May Allah elevate Ustadh’s status in the dunya and protect him from the mischievous tricks of ahlul bidah.
آمين
Ustadh is the type to talk about a matter for 14 hours and still say he hasn’t done the topic justice. May Allah keep us all steadfast.
Ameen
May Allah grant the highest of Jannah to the one who makes the timestamps for this video..🤲🏻🤲🏻
00:00 = start of the video
11:54:58 = end of the video
Ameen brother
@@redman1300 hahahahaha ameen
@@redman1300 Thanks bro..very useful 😂😂😂
@@mzmi1422 may Allah give you tawfiq
@@mzmi1422 Jazakh Allah Khair.. definitely bro...
"The statement of the scholar requires evidence. It cannot be used as evidence" - 5:05:00
This hit hard barakallahu feekum. May Allah reward you brothers. Aameen
Very beneficial video on this topic. I learned a lot Alhamdulilah.
Alhumdullilah I’m half way through this and i encourage all brothers and sisters to sincerely listen and ponder, we are being brought detailed haqq! May Allah reward you and guide us all to the truth ameen
واللّه
I don't think I've ever seen something so comprehensive and so balanced!
جزاكم اللّه خيرا
Added this to my watchlist since it's night time but wallahi, I literally had to check my brain whether I was seeing 1 or 11. By the comments, looks like it's going to be a beneficial lecture, insha'Allah. Jazakallahu Khayran for the efforts you guys are doing for the Ummah. May Allah SWT raise you along with the best of mankind, Ameen
@@hardcoreholly1161 I don't have to watch the episode to laugh. I can only make Dua to Allah so that he guides you!. JazakAllahu Khayran
Subhaan Allaah, I was on when this was live and saw so much foolishness in the chat and could see that the chatters were not even listening to the talk. Now after spending days on this video I see nothing but good in the comments. I truly believe that these are the people who wish to benefit in truth. I am one of them as well, may Allaah reward these brothers.
SubhanAllah almost 12 Hours podcast. May Allah(swt) Bless you both and guide us to the right path. Ameen
Part 2 makes it at above 14
I'm starting a marathon to watch this video. This is a big service to the ummah you are doing جزاكم الله خيرا
May Allah forgive bro hajji and grant him ilm. AMEEN Ya Rabb If it wasnt for slander we might of not gotten such a comprehensive lecture. Wallahi Amazing and beneficial .Subhana'Allah
Rather it was the grace of Allah by which Allah allowed such a video to be put out there. It was not the sin of slander !
Bro Haji is a sufi grave licker, he will be questioned by Allah swt and his angels
Wow, 12 hours!! May Allah bless you all and guide us all too.
So Bro Hajji who HIMSELF says:
-Im NOT a student of knowledge.
-Dont have good command of arabic language.
-Have not studied officially anywhere or with anyone indepth.
-Says im a layman.
Yet has the ABILITY to speak on such an indepth topic??? Are you mad???
To bro hajjis supporters, are you guys THICK??? How shallow have people become? Truly living in end of times when jaahils are running their mouths!
@@htmoh8115 💯
fact that bro kariji reads books like the rabbis in medina, skipping words, lines and paragraphs, shows he beat himself long ago... no wonder he thinks books are talmud, he reads Islamic books like rabbis...
He’s being humble bro cmon
Shaykh hamza yusuf even said he’s not a scholar because it’s out of himbleness
@@khaleelahmed9009 Are you implying he's a student of knowledge? How can one even consider themselves a student if they haven't even mastered the basics such as the Arabic language? He has no right to speak about these matters.
Almost 12 hours!!! Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar. May Allah guide us all on the straight path!!!
Allahumabarik ustahd didn't look at a piece of paper once! Mind blowing
True people of knowledge
Subhan Allah. This issue is still causing major fitnah in this ummah. May Allah guide us.
In shaa Allah hopefully people will watch this video in its entirety this time around to gain the necessary knowledge.
@@7arb-f-15
Well nobody cares who you consider to be in the ummah. Be careful of making mass takfir on all the Muslims. All Muslims are automatically in the ummah unless proven not.
@@zoomermcboomer4771 many sects in islam perform acts and rituals which take them out of the fold of islam.
Why are some of the comments questions about how they must have made time for prayer? 😂
i’m sure they figured out to pray on time and i’m sure they must have planned the podcast around salah. We really have a habit of focusing on things that have no benefit. Benefit from the video and have the grace to think the best of others.
Worse it’s like they can’t think outside the box. Surely they paused and edited video. Ate, prayed and used bathroom when needed to.
May Allah Grant Them Both The Highest Level Of Jannah❤️❤️❤️
The recitation in the beginning of this video is sooo touching.
May Allah SWT bless you and grant you the highest level of janatulferdaws for your great efforts.
I'm very happy to see someone very educated on the matters of deen like the ustadh Abdulrhman Hassan in the west so he can teach our brothers and sisters there, and be a good reference for those who don't have an access to the Arabic language.
From fajr to Ishaa nothing but knowledge based benefits may Allah reward these brothers for the efforts
@@Adrian-yf1zg mashallah have you watched the whole video
@@Adrian-yf1zg I watched much of the video as it was streaming, he quoted from mashayikh and he names the books he received the information from. Really not sure what you're watching LOL. But considering you just said you didn't even watch it...you should get comfy and pay attention inshallah
@@Adrian-yf1zg please ignore this brother may Allah guide him, he was in the livestream trolling as well
Subhanallah I started watching and I was like, is ustadh doing the entire video without notes off the top of his head, quoting Ayat, ahadith and the aqwaal of the ulema? Allahuma barik lahu
May Allahﷻ reward you Ustad for these podcasts and the time that you take to go through such issues
Next podcast: Is it shirk to make du'a to the dead or is it just a bid'ah? (Tawhid Rububiyyah, Istiqlal etc) 😬
bro yasir is a jahil, even satan believes in Rububiyah and even Asma wa Siffat possibly reading between the lines regarding him being asked to prostrate to who Allah created witth His Hands, but not Ulluhiyah, how can Yasir be so ignorant?
@Yūsuf Carty Brother if it was that simplistic a podcast wouldn't be needed. I've looked into this and a thorough refutation is needed. I've seen the evidence from the "other side" and it's quite strong *compared to other doubts* people are pushing. Just to be clear, the "other side" agree that it is wrong, they just don't consider it to be Shirk, rather they consider it to be Bid'ah which obviously leads to questions like: Was MIAW a Takfiri/Khariji for killing people who committed an innovation, but they weren't committing Shirk (or so they claim).
You don’t actually need a video for this
I really hope they make a long video like this on that issue cause he claimed muhammad ibn abdulwahhab was the first to say it was shirk while it's clear from quran and sunnah and there were other scholars before him who said the same including ibn taymiyya and many scholars from the 4 madhabs.
also refuting those who say Imam Muhammad ibn AbdulWahab may Allaah have mercy upon him was the first to put Tawheed into categories. Ustadh's Shaykh Ahmad Mahmud refuted a Sufi on it a few weeks ago.
So who is going to post the time stamps on this one lol? SubhanAllah
Bro hajji
@@ismailmartinez9401 lol he's gonna be saying technicalities technicalities for everything on the timestamp
@@ismailmartinez9401 😂😂
@@user-rq5kq8sj1i fact that bro kariji reads books like the rabbis in medina, skipping words, lines and paragraphs, shows he beat himself long ago... no wonder he thinks books are talmud, he reads Islamic books like rabbis...
Very important and very educational long video. May Allah bless you and reward you with goodness!
May Allah reward the Ustad for making such a long Podcast and putting such a great effort in a single issue
12 Hours ya na ... Thats like two nights sleep for me .. allahumma barik ...
Or just watch 1-2 hours a day
I love this brother for the sake of Allaah
JazakAllahu Khairan brothers. You put so much effort in these videos Allah humma Barik
Let's face it, Hajji would have been annihilated by ARH. He knew that that's why he wanted to do a video back and forth so he can refer back to his notes or most likely - Google 😬
You gotta be blind not to notice ARH was looking behind the shoulders of the host. It's called professional script reading. Wish you weren't that blind. Nevertheless, ARH does have good memory. But you'd be naive to believe that for the 12 hours of the video that was aired, he was recalling everything from his memory and not reading from a script or partial script. And the host asking the questions are already scripted. This is a well crafted podcast nevertheless.
@@AbuMujaddid You must have low standards for Muslim students of knowledge if you are doubtful that they could memorise evidences for a lengthy discussion on a certain topic. Secondly, they had breaks during this podcast so if needed ARH could look through any notes.
Take your negative opinions which have NO EVIDENCE somewhere else.
@@AbuMujaddid yeah true ماشالله ARH has a good memory And yes defo scripted no doubt about that but that does not take away from the fact that every doubt which was bought forward had been dealt with and the brother dealt with this in great detail
@@khoyrulislam Negative opinions? Be just. You're the one who starts off a comment by saying so and so would be 'annhilated' and can't accept someone who has a different take than you. Sorry to burst your bubble of the comfort zone you are lving in.
@@AbuMujaddid "so and so would be 'annhilated' and can't accept someone who has a different take than you. "
you mean the "take" on a liar who you shouldn't take knowledge from as he misreads books like the yeahood from Medina? like that?
SubhanAllah, I love you brothers for the sake of Allah and I love this channel. May Allah make us steadfast upon the truth.
Allahuma barik for the content. May Allah make us those who fellow the evidences and not our desires.
Allaho Akbar! Allah humma increase us in good knowledge and preserve the Muslim scholars and cause us to live and die for Your pleasure.
Barakah'Allah feekum ya Ustadh
11 hrs worth of clarification may Allah reward them both. I hope they would have something similar lined up for matter of Aqeedah as it's more important nowadays than any other topics.
They did explain that this is an issue of aqeedah but I know what you meant
First thing that we need to understand is that Qur'an has commanded to obey Allah and obey his Messenger (s) and ullul Amr. Here the word obey اطیع had been used for only allah and his Messenger not with the ullul Amr. Which means we have follow Allah and messanger without conditions but the same is not the case with ullul Amr. They should be followed only when they order us of something good . The same has been told in numerous Hadith in bukhari which the Imam Ibn Kaseer has mentioned under the commentary of the said ayah. Qur'an commands us to stay together as one and don't divide among yourselves. So for the safeguard of the ummah we have been commanded to follow the rulers even if they will snatch ur property and flock u because rebellion will led to the fitna and Qur'an says fitna is worse than murder. But today we don't have one ummah one ruler. Today we have more than 50 Muslim countries with their rulers. Prophet Muhammad ( s) said if there is a one ruler and another one claims to be the ruler then he should be killed. Does this means we should kill all other rulers ? No ! Because we don't have one ummah but countries today so all the Hadith and reference given in the said video is about the time we have one Ummah but that is not the case anymore.
We already have enough fitna and all so called Muslim countries all secular. Allegiance to them don't fall under the Hadith quoted in the video even though I don't endorse rebellion. if anyone still thinks that simply identifying as a Muslim, and possessing power and control of territory is sufficient to make one a ‘ruler’, and people should followed him. would it be consistent and call ISIS ‘rulers’ too between 2014-2017 because they controlled territory too.
With regard to criticizing ruler openly let me quote
Ka’b bin ‘Ujra, a companion of the Prophet who was told of Allah’s (SWT) mercy for him, reported that he entered the mosque and saw Abd al-Rahman b. Umm Hakam, governor under Caliph Muawiyah, delivering the sermon in a sitting posture. Upon this he said:
“Look at this wretched person; he delivers the sermon while sitting, whereas Allah said:” And when they see merchandise or sport, they break away to it and leave thee standing” [Sahih Muslim 864]
This is the same Ka’b bin ‘Ujra who related the following hadith about accounting the rulers:
“The Messenger of Allah(s.a.w) came out to us, we were made up of nine; five and four. The first of the numbers for the Arabs, and the latter for the non-Arabs. He said: ‘Listen, have you heard that after me there will leaders, whoever enters upon them and condones to their lies, and supports them in their oppression, then he is not from me and I am not from him, and he shall not drink with me from the Hawd. And whoever does not enter upon them, nor help them in their oppression, nor condones to their lies, then he is from me, and I am from him, and he shall drink with me at the Hawd.” [Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2259]
Another case was a Yahya bin Yamar, a tabi’ tabieen and famous hadith narrator who publicly rebuked Hajjaj, governor under Caliph Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan:
Aa’sim bn Bah’dalah narrated ‘”People gathered around Hajjaaj [and] then Husain bin ‘Ali (RA) was mentioned. Hajjaj said, “He is not among the progeny of the Prophet ﷺ” [arguing progeny isn’t via mothers, but only fathers].
In the gathering was Yahya bn Yamar who retorted “You have lied O [governor of the] Amirul Mu’mineen (Leaders of the Muslims)”. Hajjaaj: “You must surely put forth a proof for what you have said from the Book of Allah or I will kill you”.
Yahya recited (Surah An’aam vs 84-85): “Among his progeny, Dawuud, Sulaimon, Ayub, Yusuf, Musa and Haarun to …..Zakariyah, Yahya and Eesa’. Then Allah mentioned that Eesa is among the offspring of Adam through his mother and Hussain bin Ali is among the offspring of Muhammad (ﷺ) through his mother”.
Hajjaj: *You have said the truth! But what temerity do you have to belie me in my gathering?*
Yahya: “The covenant Allah took with the Prophets that they must give clarifications and not conceal it. (Then he quoted) “..but they threw it away behind their backs and purchase with it miserable gains!_…. [Al-Imran: 187]”
So, Hajjaj banished him to Khorasan’
[Haakim No 4772, Sunanul kubraa of Bayhaaqi Vol.6 pg166, Tafsir of Ibn Abi Haatim Vol.4 pg1335]
Clearly these hadiths illustrate sahabahs and renown transmitters of narrations clearly publicly accounting the Caliphs and their governors/Amirs for all to hear.
masyaAllah, imagine this discussion written in a book form.. hundred pages of ilm. Allahumma baarik
To the people who are in the comments arguing away with the numpties who think Khuruj is acceptable, please don't bother. If they won't be convinced by a 14 and a half hour video, what will they be? A truthful person only needs one evidence for him to accept it, while 5000 evidences won't be enough for the one who just wants to follow his desires. The proof has been established in this video. If they want to watch it, let them. If they don't, don't bother arguing with them. There's no point.
well said
mashallah you guys take nice and beneficial topics and you even sit for long hours on explaining it.This topic is very imp. And even if it is for 11 hours you can complete it in a week instead of watchin nuisance on youtube
may allah reward all of you with good
Those continuous ''I'm prepared nods'' from ustadh
This is necessary at this time, thank you for your work may Allah reward you
About the ruler who rules other than Quran and Sunnah 4:31:55-5:08:23
Thank you for the timestamp. Was looking specifically for this topic.
I would like to add if anyone wants more details on this topic you can watch another hot seat podcast called "Contextualizing Takfir in the Salafi Conceptual Framework [Ep 4]" or the video "Ruling By Other Than Allah's Book" on this same channel.
Asalaam alaikum brothers be careful of sitting down for prolonged periods of times without breaks to mover around and stretch or walk, it risks deep vein thrombosis (blood clots in your legs) which can result in stroke and other heart issues.
True, May Allah protect them from that, aameen!
OMG you people stupid ddddd
Bro, he took breaks 😂
Allahu akbar! May Allah bless these brothers and their families immensely, and grant them high ranks, and Jannahtul firdous without any accountability. Ameen.
Remove that prfp.
@@limitedquantitysufiyyahexp4905 I did, Jazak Allahu khayr
@@strivinghope وإياكم
الحمد لله May Allah bless you
@@limitedquantitysufiyyahexp4905 And you, ameen
Asalamu Alaykum
Last hour or so of the video is missing??
Assalamualakum Uploaded just now
@@habibhussain1808 I know
@@amatullahsu good jazarkullahkar
I feel like every muslim needs to watch this video...
Cuz every time i introduce myself to another muslim these days and i tell them I’m Saudi Arabian. They just start complaining and moaning saying your leaders are traitors and you shouldn’t listen to them and fight against them...
Like bro shut up I don’t want my country to turn into another syria 😅😅😅
I would rather have a corrupt leader than a civil war where half of my people are dying. So for the mean time let’s actually just listen to our leaders and obey the prophets words peace be upon him. ❤️👍🏽
I agree with you brother. Unfortunately, muslims today especially in the west don't have basic islamic knowlege and they are heavily influenced by western thinkers.
I get what you are saying but to be fair I don't even think you could say Bashar is a Muslim could you?
@@Religions.of.fandom (im the same guy who commented just from a different account)
I dont know actually if bashar is considered a muslim but i have heard many scholars making takfir on him.
@@7arb-f-15 he's not Muslim akhi.
Shaykh Salih al-Luhaydan
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I’m gonna have to digest this one in bite size chunks Inshaa’Allah
Not equal are those believers remaining [at home] - other than the disabled - and the mujahideen, [who strive and fight] in the cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred the mujahideen through their wealth and their lives over those who remain [behind], by degrees. And to both Allah has promised the best [reward]. But Allah has preferred the mujahideen over those who remain [behind] with a great reward -(4:95)
I do respect the knowledge Allah has given to AbdurRahmaan hasan, & I think one who has deep knowledge like him should face him
Agree.
It’s not a fair representation for such a heavy and serious issue.
Alhamdulillah for salafiyyah
Alhamdulillah for Islam
@@alia-wm8ug Whats the point of repeating the original comment?
whaaaat !!!!!! 11 hour video!!!! Icant believe it
Now I understand why the clip is so long. Its because the clock in the background dosent work.
Let’s be very honest now bro hajji fan boys and those that are salafi Alhamdulilah we can see why bro Hajji did not want to have a discussion now, the breadth of knowledge and evidences brought fourth he would have crumbled in totality
@Ibrahim Ibn Mahmud 100%. It’s ironic that he first wanted to do it but honestly bro I don’t blame Hajji for not discussing because if he did and it was live stream everyone would have seen clearly that he has no knowledge and he hasn’t studied I guarantee he would’ve said oh let me come back on that. At this point, anyone who is objective will know that Ustadh has done a great service with this podcast in clearing up a lot of shubha that this Hajji has brought which he didn’t need to do. May Allah guide Hajji to the correct path. Ameen.
@Ibrahim Ibn Mahmud for real, Alhamdulilah for the part you played bro, inshallah you’re rewarded for it.
The betrayal of Hussein RA is horrifying. How can they do this to the grand son of our beloved Nabi(saw)?
Yes sister. The people of Kufa betrayed him and even his brother.
May Allah deal with those who killed him.
Ameen.
@@intekabalam7340 ameen
you guys should put some batteries in that clock because it doesn't seem like its moving to me haha
😆
2:40:00 in and it's incredibly convincing and through. I'm going to try and watch the rest over the course of this week. Someone asked about references, there are tons including page numbers (though those can change depending on edition etc) in just the first few hours.
TBH a few hours in really did settle it, but if someone wants to see it all explained then they should continue to watch. It's quite through in going over the subject.
Allaahu akbar 12hrs!? Im wondering about how did they do their salah? Probably did it after isha until fajr time or something. MashaAllah may Allah reward them for their dedication ameeen
The least we can do now is watch it and take notes inshaAllah. I am so excited alhamdulillah
Same question i asked mslf
Cut/pause and edit
Where did the comments with the time stamps for this video go???? I used to refer back to it whenever I needed to check a mas’alah
Bro hajji fan girls are like "they didn't read salat in 15 hours kufaaaaarrrr"
😂😂💯
Or bloody najidis don't read salat..... Rem his fan boys are brevlis/deos /kharjis! What a mix. Lol
@@TheOneLogic69 who even mentioned Saudi? Why you so obsessed with them
Haha 🤣🤣 صحيح
@@IbnJama-al-Jabarti Of course bro, why on Earth would you think they missed Salah?
Thank you Ustadh for the knowledge you have taught us in this discussion. I just have one question: When Abu Bakr (RA) accepted the khilafah, he made a speech in which he said, “Obey me so long as I obey Allah and His Messenger. And if I disobey Allah and His Messenger, then I have no right to your obedience.” It is mentioned in Al Bidaya wan Nihayah volume 6 pages 305-306. Does this mean you don’t obey a leader in the specific haram action he instructed you to do, or does this show you can disobey the leader if he proves to be a fasiq? Thank you
You obey as long as it doesn't go against the deen. If he commands you to do haram you disobey.
Sahih Muslim 1853
It has been narrated on the authority of Aba Sa'id al-Khudri that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
When oath of allegiance has been taken for two caliphs, kill the one for whom the oath was taken later.
وَحَدَّثَنِي وَهْبُ بْنُ بَقِيَّةَ الْوَاسِطِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا خَالِدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، عَنِ الْجُرَيْرِيِّ، عَنْ أَبِي، نَضْرَةَ عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم " إِذَا بُويِعَ لِخَلِيفَتَيْنِ فَاقْتُلُوا الآخَرَ مِنْهُمَا " .
Shaykh Al Islam Ibn Taymiyyah mentioned something like sometimes when Allah wants to bring victory to Islam and muslims, he makes someone come and attack the religion and then Allah brings someone who refutes this person and destroys him intellectually and the Muslims are rejoicing. Please correct me if I misquoted anything. Now some donkeys appear out of the blue and brings doubts and later they are being humiliated!
Jazak Allah khair. Does the Ustad refers to any screen which is not visible to us during his talk? Is everything from his memory?
4:24:20 Very interesting point on following leaders in their commands with respect to different levels of ahkam i.e. waajib/haraam, mubah, and mustahab/makrooh.
yes barak Allahu feek brother for clarifying that hadith about Muawiyah r.a.a and how other sahaba refuted the action (itself without naming Muawiyah r.a.a) when it reach him by narrating from Muhammad s.a.w a hadith and when Muawiyah r.a.a defended his action on khutba when news reached him (news about sahaba who refuted action of Muawiyah r.a.a itself without naming his name). and news about Muawiyah r.a.a defending his action on khutba reached sahaba he said we will narrate hadith of Muhammad s.a.w which reached us regardless what Muawiyah r.a.a says and how dear he is to us (pay attention regardless in context means regardless whatever anyone says and how dear they are to us we will still narrate hadithes of Muhammad s.a.w which reached us). first of all this can not be used as evidence what happened between sahabas refutation and quarrels (whether it was done in nice manner or harsh manner) which they had amongst themselves unless one of them in the matter was refuted by Muhammad s.a.w or divinely by Allah swt with ayah. i see this one time brought up to me i read it, its narrated in al Bukhari collection as well. but use it as evidence to rebel against muslim ruler. really? i said i was amazed how that guy brought it as evidences. its my opinion maybe its itmah as well i dont know im not giving fatawa here im not qualified but i though to myself how sick they could be to justify haram by bringing this type of evidences without knowing context and how to apply it and Allah swt knows best
How can one be standing on the Tariq as-salaf, and say that ruling by other then what Allah reveals is not Kufr? When the Quran affirms it and in the Nawaidul-Islam- the nullifiers of Islam by Sheikh Muhammed ibn Abdul Al Wahab. Ruling by other then what Allah reveals is Kufrn Akbar correct?
It is not so straightforward, it can be minor kufr. Besides, it is not for a layman like me and you to declare a supposed muslim as a kafir, rather this is left for the major scholars of islam.
Was this filmed in a single sitting?
I thought it was sufficient to end this podcast after the evidences of the Quran and Sunnah... Slander has resulted in hardened hearts to clear cut evidences. May Allah purify our hearts.
Rebelling against the ruler is permitted if he kills muslims, or is a traitor and helps the enemy.
@Hassan AMA There is countless evidence from the hadith and salaf
@Ismail Each point he makes can be researched and investigated. Ive heard them arguments before and their refutations. L
@Ismail Astaghfirullah. Allah forbid me from rejecting the words of the messenger. I accept all of them. I may not practise them and disobey but i will never reject. I have heard a few hours, most information i know.
@Ismail It is likely you who has the desires and ego that you need to call me a kafir basically rejecting the prophets guidance
@Ibn Kamal Al-Hanbali You have misconstrued the history of Islam. I could write out refutations to you but research has already been done and compiled by bro hajji and others. The sahaba and salaf rebelled. They knew better than you. So don’t speak with jahal, go and watch your Disney series and keep out of real talk. Before you nicknamed yourself with hanbali to sound better learn your usool adeen first.
لا يجوز الخروج على ولي الأمر المسلم أما من يعطل الشرع بل و يبدله بل و يشرع من دون الله فغير مشمول بذلك باتفاق أهل السنة و الجماعة بخلاف المرجئة الجرجيسية المعاصرون
Haha when Google translates it only translated your first sentence. I'll clarify: As for the the one who dismantles the Sharia or rather changes it/ replaces it with another form of law, ruling by other than what allah revealed then they are not included in this by consensus of Ahl Sunnah in opposition to the Murjiah and others
Bismillah. Started listening to this podcast. insha'Allah would be very beneficial. Just wonder how someone could claim ijma that it is prohibited, considered issue of Zubayr and Talha (radi Allahu anhum) and Ali, issue of Husayn (radi Allahu anhu) and Yazıd, story of Abdullah bin Zubayr and etc.
Imam Ahmad recorded that 'Ali said
, " The messenger of Allah ( pubh) sent a troop under the command of a man from Al Ansar. When they left, he became angry with them for some reason and said to them, ' Has not the messenger of Allah ( pubh) commanded you to obey me ?' They said , 'Yes'. He said , ' Collect some wood', and then he started a fire with the wood, saying , I command you to enter the fire.' The people almost entered the fire, but a young man among them said, 'You only ran away from the Fire to Allah's Messenger ( pubh) , Therefore, do not rush until you go back to Allah's Messenger (pubh), and if he commands you to enter it, then enter it.' When they went back to Allah's Messenger ( pubh) , they told him what had happened, and the Messenger ( pubh) said,
_" Had you entered it , you would never have departed from it. Obedience is only in righteousness "._
Ahmad1:82
Your point is?
@@sukurkur it’s clear what the point is from it’s content.
1:44:45 it is asked if every ruler should be obeyed and the answer given as: yes, every ruler. However, the word min is used and according to my knowledge this means, the ruler must be chosen from the nation, he must represent the nation. Also in the Ayat: 4:59, which is quoted here, the word obey is used once for Allah and once for his rasul s.a.w.. You can also listen to Nouman Ali Khans lecture on this Ayat
haram to listen to NAK, he is a known innovator!
8:37:46>> summarising the issue we discussed so far بإذن الله تعالى
I don't see a comment from "Limited quantity sufiyyah expired without evidence "😄
Lool that brother is a legend I got love for him never met him but I see him defending Allah and his messenger so I love him I hope Allah bless him with jannah
Another day at the office ... 11 hr shift this time ?! 🤯 اللهم بارك
I aspire to have enough knowledge to speak about a topic for 12 hours ❤
Barakallahu feek
Jazakallahu Khairan♥️
I gotta ask, where can I buy that clock online?
5:38:35: The Ustadh quotes Ibn al-Mundir, and then translates the word (كالمجمعين) as them being in unanimous agreement.
However, this is a mistranslation, as Ibn al-Mundir actually said: it is *similar* to an consensus, but not an actual consensus.
This is possibly due to the fact that there are some people of Hadith that disagreed with this view and believed that rebelling was permissible.
name the salaf that disagreed.
8:44:06 >> Shaykhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah says in His Minhaj Us Sunnah that Husayn Ra didn't leave Mecca with the intention of fighting, instead what He thought was that they were going to give Him Bay'ah but they deceived Him.
Am i reading the time right? Does that say 11 hours or 11 minutes?? Masha allah great brotha may allah preserve him.
O its hours bro....HOURS lol
Jazakallah khairan
6:58:32>> The full events leading to the martyrdom of the Grandson of the Rasullah صلى الله عليه وسلم and reasons leading upto to it.
With all due respect even if you believed that kurooj was allowed against a Tyrant Muslim Ruler you would never publicly admit it, as you full well know what would happen to you..
Finally someone who say it. Saudi Arabia and other Arab country hold schoolar by the throat. The royal families would never let anyone rebel against them.
@@gooradn6945 They pretend that they are free to speak on this issue of rebellion.. Its like saying scholars in the west are free to speak about what they really think about J.. That word you can't even say.. Or Homosexuality etc.. Who are they kidding? Not me..
@Ibrahim Ibn Mahmud how is that a conspiracy? I wanna see you goto Saudi and make a video saying its allowed to rebel against a Ruler and see what happens..
@Ibrahim Ibn Mahmud Yes I don't defend my position and make up lies.. Unlike you and your masters..
@Ibrahim Ibn Mahmud I'm saying firstly I am not happy with my position but unlike you Im not trying to defend it either.. I admit living under a non Muslim government is not a good situation but neither it is under a Tyrant Muslim Ruler who rules with his desires...
The End of Bro Hajji is this video
Sa'eed bin Jumhan narrated:
"Safinah narrated to me, he said: 'The Messenger of Allah(s.a.w) said: "Al-Khilafah will be in my Ummah for thirty years, then there will be monarchy after that."' Then Safinah said to me: 'Count the Khilafah of Abu Bakr,' then he said: 'Count the Khilafah of 'Umar and the Khilafah of 'Uthman.' Then he said to me: 'Count the Khilafah of 'Ali."' He said: "So we found that they add up to thirty years." Sa'eed said: "I said to him: 'Banu Umaiyyah claim that the Khilafah is among them.' He said: 'Banu Az-Zarqa' lie, rather they are a monarchy, among the worst of monarchies."'
حَدَّثَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مَنِيعٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سُرَيْجُ بْنُ النُّعْمَانِ، حَدَّثَنَا حَشْرَجُ بْنُ نُبَاتَةَ، عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ جُمْهَانَ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي سَفِينَةُ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم " الْخِلاَفَةُ فِي أُمَّتِي ثَلاَثُونَ سَنَةً ثُمَّ مُلْكٌ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ " . ثُمَّ قَالَ لِي سَفِينَةُ أَمْسِكْ خِلاَفَةَ أَبِي بَكْرٍ وَخِلاَفَةَ عُمَرَ وَخِلاَفَةَ عُثْمَانَ . ثُمَّ قَالَ لِي أَمْسِكْ خِلاَفَةَ عَلِيٍّ . قَالَ فَوَجَدْنَاهَا ثَلاَثِينَ سَنَةً . قَالَ سَعِيدٌ فَقُلْتُ لَهُ إِنَّ بَنِي أُمَيَّةَ يَزْعُمُونَ أَنَّ الْخِلاَفَةَ فِيهِمْ . قَالَ كَذَبُوا بَنُو الزَّرْقَاءِ بَلْ هُمْ مُلُوكٌ مِنْ شَرِّ الْمُلُوكِ . قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى وَفِي الْبَابِ عَنْ عُمَرَ وَعَلِيٍّ قَالاَ لَمْ يَعْهَدِ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فِي الْخِلاَفَةِ شَيْئًا . وَهَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ قَدْ رَوَاهُ غَيْرُ وَاحِدٍ عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ جُمْهَانَ وَلاَ نَعْرِفُهُ إِلاَّ مِنْ حَدِيثِ سَعِيدِ بْنِ جُمْهَانَ .
From the time of sahaba up until the latter generations, there has been multiple cases where public stood up against the rulers. Please first confirm whether the Muslim rulers under secular system are the "Rulers" these hadiths are referring to. The ruler without bayah is not a legitimate ruler as far as I know, let him be oppressive or anything else
Is this really 11 hrs? بارك الله فيكم
Nearly 12 plus another 2 and half, so 14.5 hours.
11 hours?
May Allah bless them.