I flew a pair of Hollister Jerkins for 14 years, and they were incredible. The downside was that both could reach a high pitch in just two minutes, and if you weren't ready to flush quarry, things could come undone, and a flight might not work out as planned. Also, one of the birds had an almost dog-like disposition which i loved, and the other was a very touchy fellow, indeed, which took the fun out of handling him.The peregrine personality is preferable in my mind. My next bird will be a tiercel hybrid, or perhaps a big Peals. Great conversation, btw.
Let me be the first one to comment on this Most excellent quality Falcons quality falconers in quality area to hunt thanks for the video and I had a great time in Bishop
Just watched your video, enjoyed it, Peregrine's are good birds, hard to beat, but I have to say I'd take a good goshawk, can't beat them, it moves they kill it, and can do things most people wouldn't believe, flying blue grouse in the mountains, that's good sport, good day
I fly both, peregrines and goshawks, and if you train the peregrine for pursuit flight, you get the same reaction out of them as the goshawk. My immature male peregrine was flying down the hares of the fist, even if I didn't teach him to do that and even if he never saw the hare before. Of course, I don't want male peregrine to do that, but in my opinion the only advantage goshawk has is initial acceleration, but after 50 meters, peregrine is overtaking goshawk easily, and it can chase the prey for miles at top speed, and can make some breathtaking maneuvers during pursuit. It can also ring up during chase and dive at the pace goshawk never will. My pursuit peregrines also go in to the cover, and in to the trees after the prey, but that is also one area where goshawk has advantage, but when you hunt at open space, that is not an issue. That being said, some people like goshawks more regardless, and that is the beauty of diversity!
I am very interested to hear you talk about Gyrs being smart enough to preempt things by hanging near the pointing dogs. I have precisely that problem with my Peregrine. She has become less and less spectacular as she has cottoned on to the dogs and what they represent. Wonderful discussion. Thank you so much for sharing.
Great video! It would be wonderful if you could make the same type of interview with Ed Pitcher. You guys are falconry legends, and it would be so nice if you could share your knowledge and experience with younger colleagues.
Good insight into the use of the Gyr xPeregrine for falconry from two of the sports greats. Don’t leave it too long for the next chat. Or maybe you could do a series of interviews with other falconers at the top of their game.
I'm no expert with falcons, but, if i may ask, do you think that tiercels are more "interested"in flying because it's their natural role in the family, whereas the falcon sits with the chicks, and feed from the tiercel's game...in fact, it seems that the falcon often flys off to feed from game thay the tiercel has 'stored' away from the nest, instead of actually having to hunt, especially when their are young'uns about? It sounds like Gyrfalcons have a bit more of the character of Hariss's Hawks, and can become real partners, but learn, too quickly, the easiest way to get the quarry!
Without a blink of doubt i would agree gyr x peregrine terciel is absolute rocket and they wont stop going up and to an extent theybwong give up on a chase specially the way we fly them here off the fist out of the hood on strong homers and passengers alike but the female hybrids slows down and my gxp female who was in her 7th season abandons chase many times or wont wanna go up any ways she died gastro entritis and looking for a new gxp terciel and mind is set to find a wild hacked one this coming season
Falconer friend of mine is tame hacking gyr x peregrines and pure peregrines together, but according to his experience pure peregrine male was for example faster in a climb and more maneuverable and was able to catch almost two times more wood pigeons than hybrid male. In his opinion the only advantage gyr x peregrine has is its size and the fact it can handle bigger game.
Of course a male peregrine is always something except the fact that they ate intolerant to cold weather and bigger prey but when they get a chance I have seen them hit some good sized seagulls knocked cold
@@shaheershams2110 yes, male peregrine has the best flight/hunting style in my opinion, and the type of maneuvers they can do in the air, no female can repeat. I have also measured my best males at 120 km/h in level flight, and they can basically kill every prey the female can in my country. They have no problem killing 2 kg male pheasants in air, and on the ground, and I have two brothers that would go after buzzards! Extremely aggressive blood line, but I agree, most of them are not like that, and they don't like the cold 😄
Sounds good to me prarie falcons a secrets weapon and like kangaroo rats rodents unapertiseing compared to grouse pheasant is more sporting for food and there troublesome it's cool let's use the prarie to beat desert falcons in else where in the world.
All weapons are on timer for two weeks born and able timer ok I just triggers kerean hand to hand combat when this over weapons will be secondary and resrected your high and drie sir.good luck with stuff just go with what you know.
That sooty got rid of that dude hanging out with Krissy he had a block he made with falcon silwet on it me Jason was having a little to much fun and sooty far migrate got rid of us
En Estados Unidos, que no deja de ser un país nuevo para los estándares de Eurasia está bien que se usen híbridos, y concretamente gerifaltes por peregrino. Pero las tradiciones deben respetarse, y para mí, un árabe gana puntos si utiliza sacres ,y en España deben usarse peregrinos puros, mejor si son baharíes, en Mongolia águilas etc. Por cultura cetrera independientemente de los resultados. Estados unidos innovación, otros países tradición..
You covered a lot of subjects in this conversation that I had wondered myself. And it was good to hear you thought on flying G/P with over 40 years experience in the game .
Steve that was really enjoyable . Always great to see game hawking videos but it was good to see a discussion from two very accomplished falconers . Would love to see more of such content in the future . Thank you .
Thank you for this video this is a live falconry book for me as I'm from India. Flying falcons is gone with the past here only shikra is in use. Currently I'm flying calidus tiercels and trying to put them on Cattle Egret.
Great to hear you and Dave chat about g/p. I had a black male g/p from Ertsgaard which I lost (flew away). Do I ever wish I could discuss g/ps with you two!
I flew a pair of Hollister Jerkins for 14 years, and they were incredible. The downside was that both could reach a high pitch in just two minutes, and if you weren't ready to flush quarry, things could come undone, and a flight might not work out as planned. Also, one of the birds had an almost dog-like disposition which i loved, and the other was a very touchy fellow, indeed, which took the fun out of handling him.The peregrine personality is preferable in my mind. My next bird will be a tiercel hybrid, or perhaps a big Peals. Great conversation, btw.
Thank you!
thanks for allowing us to over hear your learnered conversation
generational knowledge !!! amazing
Let me be the first one to comment on this Most excellent quality Falcons quality falconers in quality area to hunt thanks for the video and I had a great time in Bishop
Much appreciated
Great stuff Steve.
Thanks
Just watched your video, enjoyed it, Peregrine's are good birds, hard to beat, but I have to say I'd take a good goshawk, can't beat them, it moves they kill it, and can do things most people wouldn't believe, flying blue grouse in the mountains, that's good sport, good day
Yes blue grouse sounds exciting!
I fly both, peregrines and goshawks, and if you train the peregrine for pursuit flight, you get the same reaction out of them as the goshawk. My immature male peregrine was flying down the hares of the fist, even if I didn't teach him to do that and even if he never saw the hare before.
Of course, I don't want male peregrine to do that, but in my opinion the only advantage goshawk has is initial acceleration, but after 50 meters, peregrine is overtaking goshawk easily, and it can chase the prey for miles at top speed, and can make some breathtaking maneuvers during pursuit. It can also ring up during chase and dive at the pace goshawk never will.
My pursuit peregrines also go in to the cover, and in to the trees after the prey, but that is also one area where goshawk has advantage, but when you hunt at open space, that is not an issue.
That being said, some people like goshawks more regardless, and that is the beauty of diversity!
What a superb vidio Steve you should make more like this really informative. Bravo .
Thank you, I will
Great to see this post. Learned a lot. Ive wanted a falconer's license for years. Still not ready for the commitment yet.
Very interesting and useful. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
I enjoyed every minute and appreciate your insights. Thanks Steve
awesome video
Thanks!
great job
I am very interested to hear you talk about Gyrs being smart enough to preempt things by hanging near the pointing dogs. I have precisely that problem with my Peregrine. She has become less and less spectacular as she has cottoned on to the dogs and what they represent.
Wonderful discussion. Thank you so much for sharing.
Yes some birds catch on to the pointing dogs! Thank you
wow. Great stuff..
Thanks!
Great video! It would be wonderful if you could make the same type of interview with Ed Pitcher. You guys are falconry legends, and it would be so nice if you could share your knowledge and experience with younger colleagues.
Good insight into the use of the Gyr xPeregrine for falconry from two of the sports greats. Don’t leave it too long for the next chat. Or maybe you could do a series of interviews with other falconers at the top of their game.
Good idea!
I'm no expert with falcons, but, if i may ask, do you think that tiercels are more "interested"in flying because it's their natural role in the family, whereas the falcon sits with the chicks, and feed from the tiercel's game...in fact, it seems that the falcon often flys off to feed from game thay the tiercel has 'stored' away from the nest, instead of actually having to hunt, especially when their are young'uns about?
It sounds like Gyrfalcons have a bit more of the character of Hariss's Hawks, and can become real partners, but learn, too quickly, the easiest way to get the quarry!
جير شاهين وجير حر وحر شاهين i love haggard hawks
They can’t be taken in the USA.
Without a blink of doubt i would agree gyr x peregrine terciel is absolute rocket and they wont stop going up and to an extent theybwong give up on a chase specially the way we fly them here off the fist out of the hood on strong homers and passengers alike but the female hybrids slows down and my gxp female who was in her 7th season abandons chase many times or wont wanna go up any ways she died gastro entritis and looking for a new gxp terciel and mind is set to find a wild hacked one this coming season
Falconer friend of mine is tame hacking gyr x peregrines and pure peregrines together, but according to his experience pure peregrine male was for example faster in a climb and more maneuverable and was able to catch almost two times more wood pigeons than hybrid male.
In his opinion the only advantage gyr x peregrine has is its size and the fact it can handle bigger game.
Of course a male peregrine is always something except the fact that they ate intolerant to cold weather and bigger prey but when they get a chance I have seen them hit some good sized seagulls knocked cold
@@shaheershams2110 yes, male peregrine has the best flight/hunting style in my opinion, and the type of maneuvers they can do in the air, no female can repeat. I have also measured my best males at 120 km/h in level flight, and they can basically kill every prey the female can in my country. They have no problem killing 2 kg male pheasants in air, and on the ground, and I have two brothers that would go after buzzards!
Extremely aggressive blood line, but I agree, most of them are not like that, and they don't like the cold 😄
Steve. What's the latest and greatest treatment for Aspirgillosis? Amphotericin B used to work for my goshawks.
Haven’t had to deal with asper for a long time so haven’t kept up on any new developments.
Great video Steve. Do you have a preference on the subspecies of peregrine you're crossing with?
Peals or Anatum
Sounds good to me prarie falcons a secrets weapon and like kangaroo rats rodents unapertiseing compared to grouse pheasant is more sporting for food and there troublesome it's cool let's use the prarie to beat desert falcons in else where in the world.
All weapons are on timer for two weeks born and able timer ok I just triggers kerean hand to hand combat when this over weapons will be secondary and resrected your high and drie sir.good luck with stuff just go with what you know.
I never thought of doing that I know to be careful.
Just keep being careful that gyr master you be fine be positive for options positive equals options.
That sooty got rid of that dude hanging out with Krissy he had a block he made with falcon silwet on it me Jason was having a little to much fun and sooty far migrate got rid of us
En Estados Unidos, que no deja de ser un país nuevo para los estándares de Eurasia está bien que se usen híbridos, y concretamente gerifaltes por peregrino. Pero las tradiciones deben respetarse, y para mí, un árabe gana puntos si utiliza sacres ,y en España deben usarse peregrinos puros, mejor si son baharíes, en Mongolia águilas etc. Por cultura cetrera
independientemente de los resultados. Estados unidos innovación, otros países tradición..
You covered a lot of subjects in this conversation that I had wondered myself. And it was good to hear you thought on flying G/P with over 40 years experience in the game .
Very enjoyable video listening to two falconers who know their craft. Well put together.
Thanks for such a good interview. Learnt out of it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Steve that was really enjoyable . Always great to see game hawking videos but it was good to see a discussion from two very accomplished falconers . Would love to see more of such content in the future . Thank you .
Glad you enjoyed it Shane!
Thank you for this video this is a live falconry book for me as I'm from India. Flying falcons is gone with the past here only shikra is in use. Currently I'm flying calidus tiercels and trying to put them on Cattle Egret.
That sounds doable! Good luck!
@@stevesomach Thank you Mr Steve,yesterday the Tiercel missed a Yellow footed green pigeon, he's flying good chasing birds in his surroundings.
Great to hear you and Dave chat about g/p. I had a black male g/p from Ertsgaard which I lost (flew away). Do I ever wish I could discuss g/ps with you two!
Thanks!
Life is the the sky.