He said it so dryly I didn't ever catch that I have to admit. Even though the sexual context of the situation was quite obvious I'm so biased against a proper sounding English gentleman saying something like that my brain refused to catch it.
You Brits! That old comedy "No Sex Please, We're British" still applies. An American, i got the pun instantly. Didn't you get Palin saying that the Asian in the window was Graham's pick up from the night before?
For the Pythons to deliver great staid, conservative, prudish and safe (relatively speaking) humor, they would have had to know first the naughty bits of, say, a taboo subject of tv/film in their day: sex / transgressive sex. (Taking on female roles indeed was for comic effect, and was not making fun of men dressing up as women). And one can tell they knew very well of the limitless comedic possibilities that the many dimensions the topic takes on. Their boarding school & academic backgrounds no doubt more than adequately provided a rich fund for the Brits in MP to draw on. Still, they avoided dealing with any form of sexual desire (yes, but only on a few rare occasions), pornography, or even with self-abuse even. They skirted and touched upon the topic every now and then but they never really engaged with it full-on with any innuendo-filled off-color sketches or scenes, but as you can see with Palin’s casually-delivered line here , they were masters at it. They were open-minded and accepting enough of GC’s sexual preferences, but can still make light of it in a classy way that respects GC and the audience. Palin’s line here generates a healthy round of chuckles each time I revisit it. Funny thing is, the more i visit it, the naughtier it becomes. Visuals pop up. And I feel dirtier and dirtier each time responding to Palin’s line (and manner of delivery). Uncanny.
RIP the two members of Monty Python Graham Chapman (January 8, 1941 - October 4, 1989), aged 48 Terry Jones (February 1, 1942 - January 21, 2020), aged 77 You both will always be remembered as legends.
Because of Graham Chapman's fortitude, John Cleese's analytical thinking, Terry Gilliam's artistic imagination, Eric Idle's musicality, Terry Jones' directorial capacity, and Michael Palin's cross-cultural awareness: Monty Python forever.
mightisright absolutely. All the pythons said as much. He was easily the best actor and the funniest deadpan of the group. He was also the messiest and had the most problems unfortunately.
@@pigknickers2975 he wasnt really. He rarely initiated any writing, he was more of the kind of person who would add great stuff on to others' ideas. And he was a raging alcoholic up until after Holy Grail.
I love how John Cleese seems to be the most brutally honest out of all of them about Graham, but it’s simply because he especially knew that Graham would’ve wanted it that way.
yes, but as they said earlier - none of them really knew each other that much outside of work. And Cleese undoubtedly spent the most time with him, and is therefore, most qualified to offer those honest opinions. They were writing partners even before Python and that's a pretty intimate kind of relationship.
I recall what one Python said... "The troupe saved Graham from a life of illness, sickness and disease. Graham had planned to be a doctor. He had also saved Cleese from a life of crime--the man was going to be a lawyer--er, barrister." And he studied medicine--but only practiced for one year. Until Terry Gilliam came along and united them all under the denomination of the greatest and most influential comedy in existence.
other pythons complaining about Gilliam crack me the hell up. I remember Cleese saying about Gilliam, "I don't think I've ever once agreed with anything that man has said."
hahaha I love when he's getting interviewed on TV and the person in the audience laughs when he says, "I drank because I was insecure," and he's like, "Hey, who's laughing at *that?* Strange reaction, I'll have to sort you out later.." as he scans the audience incredulously. RIP obviously not only a great comic mind, but just a great mind in general.
I feel he had a justified reaction to someone laughing at him talking about his problems. Anyone who does should be dealt with accordingly, cause these issues ain't fun.
I think John Cleese looked at Graham Chapman as his intellectual equal, if not superior and more gifted than him. Graham would be the one person John looked up to in his career.
188cm is 6'2", for you intellectually inferior whatever. (I'm not American, nor from a country using the superior Imperial system) And there's no way there was a four inch difference between the two.
@Karim Rached Agreed. The world is full of geniuses in whatever craft they excel: physical or mental, fighting a war as a soldier, fighting a courtroom as a lawyer, a mathematician proving theorems, a farmer growing food, but these geniuses do NOT get fame. The ones who DO get fame TEND to get the mental problems BECAUSE of the fame: the loss of privacy. Not because of the genius. I hate idiots pushing the MYTH that you need "mental issues" or "issues" to "push you to be a genius".
What Michael Palin said at 6:10 resonated with me. My alcoholic friend committed suicide this spring. He was an amusing drunk and had everyone charmed most of the time but he would say the most outrageous things that he could think of and it was just dull. Sleeping with the prime minister was just the kind of thing he would say and his audience would lap it up while inside he was in enough pain for him to take his own life. This kind of behaviour seems to stem from some deep insecurity.
it does seem to be that way im afraid. I'm an alcoholic and have no self-esteem. even though i have qualified as a carpenter, travelled the world, re-skilled as a university graduate in Computer Science work with a multi-national company and now looking to upskill again.............
Yeah I had a friend who was mentally disabled with substance problems and he was so outrageous and nasty and determined to be as controversial as possible that it was just tedious, like wrangling a drunk overtired child.
He was just going through some things. Like he said, he stopped being dishonest with himself. And I don’t know if he ever considered himself a genius. Every python brought something to the table. The whole group was just fun dynamite.
It's possible to be perfectly mediocre, intellectually, and still be totally screwed up. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that in my opinion it's entirely possible to be a total moron *AND* be completely screwed up! And now, with an opposing view, Graham Chapman. ... Well, so much for the opposing view. Next up - winning arguments with dead people - hard or easy?
My favourite Python by far. Just something about him, his expressions, his stance, his delivery. Obviously they all made it great but Graham stood out for me.
It would have been lovely, clever Graham's 80th birthday today (8.1.21). Life wasn't always easy for him but he's still loved and missed even after all these years. Happy birthday Graham.
He did get himself sober between Holy Grail and Life of Brian and in latter he was sober and his superior acting ability of all Pythons shines through.
I love Graham, especially when he played the Colonel or any character that was upper-class...guess with him actually being a doctor that these roles suited him best. I think it was John who had said that the Cheese Shop sketch was his favorite and that it was Graham who had written it. Sad that he passed away fairly young but thankful that we can still see his gift for comedy on screen!
As it stands Terry Jones can no longer speak because of Dementia. It's likely the world is going to lose another Python here before long. Thanks to all 6 of you for everything you've done, hopefully you guys suffer minimally in your final years.
I read a few weeks back that Michael Palin was reading to him an old comedy annual they had written together and Terry was laughing only at the jokes he himself had written. It's heartbreaking but I smiled at the thought that Terry is still here and annoying Michael Palin EVEN with dementia
@@D.A.D.D.Y. I noticed that. I think sadly he was always deflecting from who he really was, and without any disrespect to the other Pythons, I believe he felt he had to always be in "clown mode" to get through the day - hence the drinking
Fondly remember those days in the early 70s of going into my parents room and firing up the old B&W with the antennae from hell that needed a different adjustment every week just to watch Monty Python through the static. My dad dismissed them and yet began watching them with me. It's a shame to get old. RIP Graham and Terry....and thank you!
If Michael did come out and say that he was Chinese, I can just imagine Eric saying, "Don't worry Michael, just remember, 'I like Chinese. I like Chinese'."
Today, saying he's Chinese would get Michael accused of "cultural appropriation." Having said that, can you imagine the fun that the pythons would have today with ridiculous ideas like cultural appropriation?
From the outside looking in, it seems blindingly obvious that Graham was all too aware of the attitude towards homosexuals at the time, and was maybe even ashamed of it himself (because of societal pressures, not because it is actually something to be ashamed of), so instead of confronting and accepting who he was, he drank himself silly as a form of escape. This is a common reason for narcotics abuse, to escape from reality, to escape from what you perceive as problems, instead of dealing with them.
Not convinced about that. I think he drank to try and kill his shyness. It's common for alcoholics to come through that route. Keith Moon was the same.
Not sure where you get the idea that self harm is more prevalent in gays and trans? Suicide is definitely more common in trans people but for a different reason. Also he did say in the video it wasn't till he was about 25 when he realised his focus on marrying his steady girlfriend wasn't what he wanted out of life. So he definitely struggled with it before he accepted it.
True, although who knows what was eating him from inside, maybe it wasn't even his homosexuality. And often we don't even understand what it is that is eating us from inside (for example, I recently learned, that an ischemic brain damage, aka stroke, can be one of the possible causes, say if it affects, well basically anything, but say learning abilities, or say the part responsible for controlling management of basic motivation, etc. and so forth). BTW, strokes in kids are also a thing, from different things, but also (or maybe especially, nowadays, because it's so common) from vaccines (if we paid attention to evaluate children before and after a vaccination, we would realise this long ago, but we don't, most damages go unnoticed, ah, it's a long story...)
I don't care what they said about Graham, from what I've heard about him I think he was a sweetie. For example Hazel Pethig (Pythons' costume designer) said that when she had to spend half the night making costumes for the maidens in Castle Anthrax she remembered "Graham Chapman staying up with me saying "go to bed woman, go to bed". He was so sweet". I don't think the others would have done that. Apparently he started drinking as a boy to cover up his terrible shyness so presumably all those drunken antics were very much out of character. He was obviously highly intelligent and in interviews always comes across as charming and modest.
He was gay. He said he didn't like the dishonesty of having to hide this (back in the day 🙄). This double life would turn most people to drink or substance abuse.
Love them all, for their gifts, the things they shared, their differences, their, oh, heck, for just being willing to be silly on the world stage! Now that's something! So sad now, they are one more down, with the passing of the great Terry Jones. I'll just try to remember the soaring joy of laughter he left, and try to set aside the deep pain that he is gone. At least set it aside for the moment.
I do agree, all the greats were troubled.... i would put forth he drank just to deal with ordinary society. Hell, I would. Marvellous chap, dearly missed :(
It always makes me feel terrible when I realize that the concept of being gay or lesbian makes me uncomfortable. I do not hate anybody because they're that way. In fact, my cousin, whom I love dearly, just came out, and I have other gay/lesbian friends. I feel terrible for how he must've been treated.
Im sorry to hear about his alcoholism. I love all these guys and their comedy... how much joy they've added to my life. Feels like discovering my family member had a problem and I didnt notice.
StonyRC....I've known a couple of hardcore professional drinkers. When you found how much they really drink it's pretty eye opening! One guy drank from the moment he got up...till he went to bed....All day, all night.... everyday.... but he never seemed drunk. Of course, the booze finally got him. RIP....
I'm 46 and I never knew graham was gay what a legend for coming out all those years ago he was taken too young ,he gets a little beating here but what would life of Brian and Holy grail be without him
I remember Graham coming on stage at the Mandela concert and asking the crowd for 30 seconds of abuse. The sound of 80000 people shouting profanities at the South African government was deafening. Only Graham would think of something like that. He did like the gestures
@gabiotta You have to remember, for almost the entire Monty Python run Graham was drunk off his ass. Have you ever tried to work with someone who was always drunk? You'd be a bit rough on them too. It's easy for us to think they were being mean since we didn't have to go through take after take because a drunk cast member couldn't remember his lines. Not to talk down on Graham, no one is perfect.
there was always that dark streak to PYTHONS humour and the different members obviously contributed their own flavour to the sketches I remember hearing early interviews with Chapman and noticing more of a serious streak to his character and a side the others may not have always favoured but it all adds to the creativity RIP Graham!
Graham was the only one who wasn't public school educated. I think he was more in touch with the ordinary bloke in the street, so when he played posh it was even more biting.😄
A supremely gifted spontaneous off the wall erratic genius. My favorite Python, the most indispensable of the lot. Surely they must have resented how irresponsible and unprofessional Graham could be and yet be so talented. They had to work their arses off, he didn't. They expected more from him, because they saw so much in him to love and admire, but that's not how genius works, it cannot be confined or counted on to perform on cue, only enjoyed and marveled at when it feels like gracing us with it's presence.
Joe Strummer said of Mic Jones that he was late all the time so much that it became one of the reasons he sacked him, only later to realize that talent is worth waiting for, this piece just reminded me of that.
Loved all the Python guys but i think Graham may have been the one most fans liked the best. Others may argue that it was John who was the biggest stand-out. He did go on with a super successful show Faulty Towers.
Its hard to pick a favorite but i identify most with Mr Chapman. Alcoholism isnt a disease. Its an adaptive strategy like any addiction. Its not the drug. Its the trauma you are trying not to feel. Im sorry Graham. That society is such a shit that it couldnt afford being good to you. He deserved better. He deserved being accepted for who he was.
Lol, I find it so odd how they said they he was bad at his lines yet I see him in that "Johann Gamblepuddy..." sketch. That must have taken so many takes!
I did know graham, for a number of years he was really quite a nice guy! He was more, then happy to visit my youth theater i was in at the time. Some interesting stories, from those days, at EYT.
So sad, he managed to kick his four pints of gin a day habit, went through the DTs etc. in an almost olympian feat. but all that damn pipe sucking did his throat in. Poor old chap.
I visited The Angel pub in HIghgate because I heard Graham Chapman was a regular there. I didn't see him but I saw Ray Davies from The Kinks, so that was a good result!
It's interesting to watch this and see the distance that they all portray, which I'm sure at some point in time is true, but also to go back and watch Graham's early home movies and see John feature prominently in them. At the beach, at the lake, in the US, all things done pre-Python when they were very young. If you're in private home movies, you're friends.
This seriously makes Graham out to be a flaming rainbow-friendly boozer. Everyone has a dark side - whether it be alcoholism or whatever it may be - but surely they could've talked more about his contributions to the team moreso.
I don't know which show or documentary this clip is from but it seems to me that it's just that: a clip. I for one love the fact that we can actually learn how a person truly was during his life, warts and all. If we want more positivity there are tons of other videos (including the absolutely beautiful eulogies at his funeral) and of course there's the show and the movies. I'd actually like to know the name of this show or documentary to watch it in full and get to know a great man a little better. And I keep thinking it would be great if they asked each member to talk like this about all the other Pythons so that we can watch them later when they, you know, unfortunately but inevitably move on as well.
+Joseph Scott Not at all - my point was (and maybe I should've been clearer) that in the other montages when they're discussing the other members, they're not as brutally honest. Sure, his sexuality and drinking were part of who he was, but when a comedian's private life is brought to the forefront over their comedy, it gives the illusion that all they worked for is tossed aside, even in a personal documentary like this one. Maybe it's because Graham's not here anymore and therefore, the brutal honesty comes all-guns-blazing.
Graham was a tortured genuis. An extremely intelligent man with a prolongied identity crisis. But a great actir and comedian. So sad that he died 12 years before I was born :(
7:12 4 pints... Imperial, British (I presume)... that is over 2 liters. Actually more than 2200ml, meaning over 2.2L. Of gin. I'm an alcohol, and in earlier years I had played drinking games that I would make up. Among them, was to watch a film and to establish rules of when to drink, USUALLY revolving around when one character or all characters drink throughout the film. The most hardcore, for me, was Drunken Master which I MAY have even watched without pause which means... dang, I was pushing myself, and I do remember that night I NEARLY got sick and I had a BAD night's sleep but ultimately I do not think that I vomited if I'm not mistaken and I survived. I think it was the '90s remake, which I think in Hong Kong/China would be Drunken Master 2 but here it was Legend of the Drunken Master because the original Drunken Master from the '70s starring a VERY young Jackie Chan who actually played a character who was a PRICK, did not see international release or at least perhaps not success. And yeah, wow, just the IDEA of Jackie Chan playing a character that doesn't have a heart of gold is kinda... hard to imagine. He's always so good, and he seems like a genuinely good man as well so yeah it's interesting to see him in Drunken Master in like 1978 and he's lying, cheating, manipulating... though some of it apparently comes from his own difficult youth when food was scarce and it was hard to survive and he was often hungry. Anyhow, that was like 15oz (around 450ml) of liquor (I think a bit stronger than 40%) within about 2 hours. I have also drank I think 1L of vodka within I think it was 12 hours. 2.2L in one day? I... I believe I could do it. I DO NOT WANT TO lol I am KIND of a recovering alcoholic... ish... definitely doing MUCH better than before and my withdrawal symptoms are almost non-existent now. But wow... well let me crunch some numbers and see what 2.2L of 40% ABV (alcohol by volume) gin would equate to in terms of a typical 355ml can of beer... I'm pretty good at this sort of math. Or 'maths' as my brethren in the United Kingdom put it, which I regard as my ancestral homeland based on my known genealogy. 49.577 beer, 355ml at 5% (10 proof) alcohol by volume. THAT has the same alcohol content as 2.2L of gin at 40%. ... THAT... is a lot of beer. If I drink a dozen of those QUICKLY, I can get drunk and go to sleep. Slow? 15-18 perhaps and I'm dandy. The thing is, I've never been a morning drinker as I recall. Have I drank in the morning after I woke up? On rare occasions, yes, when my withdrawal struck early, but again my withdrawal is almost non-existent now and most days I have seemingly none or at least nothing noteworthy or bothersome or noticeable. Generally, I tried to keep it at 3:30PM at the earliest, which I regarded as acceptable, because typically 8-10 hours later I was lights-out and typically that's early enough to wake up right-as-rain in the morning because hang-overs were and are extremely scarce and when I do feel a slight hang-over it's not even worth a single regular-strength Tylenol. So I wasn't drinking ALL DAY. Just, about, half or a little more than half of my typical time spent not sleeping. And well, while sleeping, I become sober. So if I DRANK SLOW to where I can drink throughout the day, and then drank from morning to night, I will not endeavor to experiment with it but I can say with absolute confidence that I could boost up my amount of drinking SUBSTANTIALLY by kinda playing 'the long game' with it and stretching it out from my earliest hours after waking to my last hours before sweet oblivion of slumber, ideally consensual, but well in my experience of being a longtime heavy drinker you don't always get to remain with your conscience until you decide to go to sleep. Sometimes... sleep comes and takes you lol And I have seen the video of me with my slick headphones on having COMPLETELY passed out where I sat in my chair at my computer and the person had cranked up the audio on said computer to bust so that even though I have headphones on the video can easily hear what is blaring into my ears on bust... and I have no recollection of it and I did not wake up and I think it was some sort of AT LEAST hard rock but possibly could have been something metal like Megadeth or maybe that song Get Down with the Sickness or Metallica or something like that. I am also intimately familiar with the difference between 'blacking out' and 'passing out.' So I regard myself as a BIT of an unfortunate expert in the field of obliterating one's self with excessive amounts of liquid courage. That's my take on that little quote from the late, highly talented, extremely gay, Graham Chapman on his alcoholism lol Sorry, I did find that funny, 'extremely gay' lol And it's next to 'highly talented' so it's in a positive light but yeah I just added that for yucks :P Anyhow it's my genuine perspective on what I heard, providing an alcoholic perspective on an alcoholic's confessions of alcoholic drinking to perhaps help bring it into an articulation that helps non-alcoholics better understand. I mean... 50 typical 355ml (in American, 12oz) cans of 5% beer. That's PRETTY MUCH what he said he'd have daily... THAT IS A LOT. It's not something I have never heard of, I 100% believe him, but yeah that is A LOT! Quite literally people have shared stories of either personally drinking or having worked with and known someone who had personally drank 2 two-fours (24-case) of beer, meaning 48 beer. I don't know if it was light beer at 4% or regular at 5% but on some level that does not matter. Because either way... THAT IS A LOT OF BEER! Do not drink to excess, be careful and safe, it is good to consider your health and AVOID addictions. God bless, Christ loves you, God rest Graham Chapman's immortal soul, take care and I hope you have/had a great day. The world is a lonely place these days, maybe lonelier than humanity had ever known... it would be good to talk to someone, whether it be for your benefit or theirs or both. It would be good and nice to take a moment to ask a question, to listen to the answer, and to converse. :) You have the potential of greatness in you.
At about 4:44 Barry Cryer says that Graham would add tonic to "whatever it was". It was gin, Graham's drink of choice. Or as he said it himself, ginandslimlinetonicwithicebutnolemonin.
Palin once referred to a sketch that they couldn't finish as Graham was too drunk. Years ago, I saw a Python repeat of the 4th series on late-night telly, featuring a sketch that was clearly a different take to the one on the official video (this was the 1990s), the Programme Planners sketch ('Doctor At Bee!'). A quick comparison with the VHS showed a shadow on the set floor not visible on the VHS, a better performance by Eric and Palin improvising re his parrot Xerxes, as well as Terry throwing in a line about cripples. This must be the sketch that Mike was referring to and I've never seen that edit of the sketch since.
@TheLizGang This is from Monty Python's Almost The Truth, according to the Pythons themself the most perfect documentary they ever had. It was released some months ago, maybe a year... so it's quite new (I can recommend this strongly, very interesting and funny)
During his drinking days I remember seeing him in the Angel pub with Harry Nilsson, the singer, both at the bar, both pissed, wearing silly hats they’d made out of tinfoil, acting stupidly and winding up the landlord who I think threatened to chuck em out.
Not surprising that the pythons were not close friends. What is rather beautiful is that, even in spite of Chapman's many problems, they did not officially continue Python after he died.
Sometimes it's better not to know of the behind the scenes relationships of creative groups. That goes for bands too. It spoils the magic to learn of the discord of Python, The Beatles, The Stones, etc.
ThatDifferentDude there was magic in a group that treat grannies like thugs, killed a parrot, repressed a citizen, had an innocent woman framed as a witch, arrested a Hungarian, shot a store clerk, AND made fun of religion?
Uh, not for me. That's life. Don't enjoy hearing something like one person absolutely hated another but that isn't the case here. It is reality which is something they took their shots at with absurdity.
Povl Besser But rarely is anything so distinctively original and to the intellectually complacent, as confrontational as ‘The Life of Brian’, created by the reasonable.
Funny how they talk about him as an odd ball but on Parkinson he seemed very together and open. Maybe by 1980, sober and out about his sexuality, he'd found some peace. Been watching a lot of Python recently, it strikes me that Chapman was the best character actor of them, he could do any kind of weird part and you'd be convinced that it was the kind of character he always did then he do something completely different (pun intended) and be just as great. There's no time where he doesn't seem perfect for whatever part it was, from army officers, to snivelling little twerps to Las Vegas singer, to east end gangster
"He coming in a minute....." "I don't want to know that, I just need him down here, in the car." Michael Palin, too funny !
Haha! "He's coming in a minute",
how could that obvious joke escape me for years!
😄 I didn’t catch that first time.
He said it so dryly I didn't ever catch that I have to admit. Even though the sexual context of the situation was quite obvious I'm so biased against a proper sounding English gentleman saying something like that my brain refused to catch it.
You Brits! That old comedy "No Sex Please, We're British" still applies. An American, i got the pun instantly. Didn't you get Palin saying that the Asian in the window was Graham's pick up from the night before?
For the Pythons to deliver great staid, conservative, prudish and safe (relatively speaking) humor, they would have had to know first the naughty bits of, say, a taboo subject of tv/film in their day: sex / transgressive sex. (Taking on female roles indeed was for comic effect, and was not making fun of men dressing up as women). And one can tell they knew very well of the limitless comedic possibilities that the many dimensions the topic takes on. Their boarding school & academic backgrounds no doubt more than adequately provided a rich fund for the Brits in MP to draw on. Still, they avoided dealing with any form of sexual desire (yes, but only on a few rare occasions), pornography, or even with self-abuse even. They skirted and touched upon the topic every now and then but they never really engaged with it full-on with any innuendo-filled off-color sketches or scenes, but as you can see with Palin’s casually-delivered line here , they were masters at it. They were open-minded and accepting enough of GC’s sexual preferences, but can still make light of it in a classy way that respects GC and the audience. Palin’s line here generates a healthy round of chuckles each time I revisit it. Funny thing is, the more i visit it, the naughtier it becomes. Visuals pop up. And I feel dirtier and dirtier each time responding to Palin’s line (and manner of delivery). Uncanny.
RIP the two members of Monty Python
Graham Chapman (January 8, 1941 - October 4, 1989), aged 48
Terry Jones (February 1, 1942 - January 21, 2020), aged 77
You both will always be remembered as legends.
You forgot Neil Innes. He was considered an unofficial Python.
Because of Graham Chapman's fortitude, John Cleese's analytical thinking, Terry Gilliam's artistic imagination, Eric Idle's musicality, Terry Jones' directorial capacity, and Michael Palin's cross-cultural awareness: Monty Python forever.
You're saying the ability to be funny was not relevant?
Lemon curry?!
@@OnePost909 Over fortitude? Please
The greatest comedy troupe in history.
VERY WELL SAID MY TH-cam FRIEND.
...He's a very naughty boy.
Nice one...wish I'D thought of it
He’s not the messiah
NOW GO AWAY
how shall we fuck off, o Lord?
There's no pleasing some people.
Graham Chapman, gone but not forgotten, as he still owes Michael Palin a twenty
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Ta for that, mate.
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Graham was my favorite of the group. Without his central performances, Holy Grail and Life of Brian wouldn't have worked.
Me too and it slightly pisses me off the slight attitude they have with him. He was probably the genius one and they owe him.
Yes he was my favourite also. Crunchy Frog!
mightisright absolutely. All the pythons said as much. He was easily the best actor and the funniest deadpan of the group. He was also the messiest and had the most problems unfortunately.
@@pigknickers2975 he wasnt really. He rarely initiated any writing, he was more of the kind of person who would add great stuff on to others' ideas. And he was a raging alcoholic up until after Holy Grail.
@@dildoniusmaybe you're right...... he just seems highly entertaining to me
I love how John Cleese seems to be the most brutally honest out of all of them about Graham, but it’s simply because he especially knew that Graham would’ve wanted it that way.
John Cleese is brutally honest about many subjects. Whether Graham would have wanted it that way doesn't enter into it.
@@JarrodFrates you really aren't in a position to say something so definite, no need to de value this persons nice comment
yes, but as they said earlier - none of them really knew each other that much outside of work. And Cleese undoubtedly spent the most time with him, and is therefore, most qualified to offer those honest opinions. They were writing partners even before Python and that's a pretty intimate kind of relationship.
@@JarrodFrates They were very good friends. Of course it "enters into it".
idk impossible to ever say but yeah, I admired Cleese`s brutal honesty also, his eulogy at Grahams funeral says it all
Graham was constantly late, particularly after '89.
Haha good one. I'm sure he'd laugh at that.
... when he stopped being drunk and started being dead.
exactly the kind of joke he would enjoy. RIP
If you were talking about anybody else (even other comedians), this wouldn't be funny. But with Chapman, it works.
Can anyone tell me which documentary this is?
Heartbreaking start when Gilliam has to change his ”Graham is” to a ”Graham was”
Yeah. More like Graham coulda- if we'd bothered to be there.
I recall what one Python said... "The troupe saved Graham from a life of illness, sickness and disease. Graham had planned to be a doctor. He had also saved Cleese from a life of crime--the man was going to be a lawyer--er, barrister." And he studied medicine--but only practiced for one year. Until Terry Gilliam came along and united them all under the denomination of the greatest and most influential comedy in existence.
By doing shitty cartoons.
Pfft. He was the tea boy. An afterthought.
@@kelman727
And you sir, are a talentless, jealous, hack!
@@r.lewisblake7793 yes
@@kelman727 You shouldn't believe everything the other Pythons say lol
other pythons complaining about Gilliam crack me the hell up. I remember Cleese saying about Gilliam, "I don't think I've ever once agreed with anything that man has said."
He WAS the president of the royal society for putting things on top of other things though. No one can take that away from him.
Nicely played.
He was a doctor he was trained to make people wait for him.
In other words, he had a great deal of patients.
booooo lol
@GohModley I'm right here.
St. Pooves?
hahaha I love when he's getting interviewed on TV and the person in the audience laughs when he says, "I drank because I was insecure," and he's like, "Hey, who's laughing at *that?* Strange reaction, I'll have to sort you out later.." as he scans the audience incredulously.
RIP obviously not only a great comic mind, but just a great mind in general.
I was abit stunned when I heard it.
I feel he had a justified reaction to someone laughing at him talking about his problems. Anyone who does should be dealt with accordingly, cause these issues ain't fun.
I think maybe because it was a slightly obvious answer? Could be reading it wrong though
I saw that, "who laughed at that?" Maybe a nervous laugh
What an absolutely fascinating chap he was. RIP Graham Chapman.
indeed
Graham was always my favorite. It's odd how often how sometimes the funniest people are also the most troubled.
The Beatles of comedy. Incredible chemistry between comedic geniuses.
I think John Cleese looked at Graham Chapman as his intellectual equal, if not superior and more gifted than him. Graham would be the one person John looked up to in his career.
How tall was he?
John's eulogy at Graham Chapman 's memorial service was so funny. If you haven't seen it it's on TH-cam.
To answer Tony, Chapman was 6'4" and Cleese 6'5".
188cm is 6'2", for you intellectually inferior whatever. (I'm not American, nor from a country using the superior Imperial system) And there's no way there was a four inch difference between the two.
Wrong.
The imperial system is shite.
Graham wouldnt have been near as good if hed been sent back to the factory.
rebecca sabet agreed
Can anyone tell me which documentary this is?
@Karim Rached Doesn't matter what you believe. It's just the harsh reality of success. Deal with it.
@@elnoruego6854Monty Python: (Almost) The Truth
@Karim Rached Agreed. The world is full of geniuses in whatever craft they excel:
physical or mental, fighting a war as a soldier, fighting a courtroom as a lawyer, a mathematician proving theorems, a farmer growing food, but these geniuses do NOT get fame. The ones who DO get fame TEND to get the mental problems BECAUSE of the fame: the loss of privacy. Not because of the genius. I hate idiots pushing the MYTH that you need "mental issues" or "issues" to "push you to be a genius".
I’m late to the party again. We all have our demons. Graham, you are dearly loved and missed. Rest In Peace
Graham was the John Lennon of Monty Python.
john lennon was a hypocritical pile of horseshit, please don't compare a Monty Python to this trash bag
Michael was deffo Paul. John was a bit of a Lennon type as well cause he's an arsehole
He was more the Jerry Garcia.
What Michael Palin said at 6:10 resonated with me. My alcoholic friend committed suicide this spring. He was an amusing drunk and had everyone charmed most of the time but he would say the most outrageous things that he could think of and it was just dull. Sleeping with the prime minister was just the kind of thing he would say and his audience would lap it up while inside he was in enough pain for him to take his own life. This kind of behaviour seems to stem from some deep insecurity.
reminds me of Robin Williams, in a way.
it does seem to be that way im afraid. I'm an alcoholic and have no self-esteem.
even though i have qualified as a carpenter, travelled the world, re-skilled as a university graduate in Computer Science work with a multi-national company and now looking to upskill again.............
Yeah I had a friend who was mentally disabled with substance problems and he was so outrageous and nasty and determined to be as controversial as possible that it was just tedious, like wrangling a drunk overtired child.
Graham Chapman was screwed up, just like every other genius.
It's not the genius that's screwed up - it's everyone else.
I think that went over your head
He was just going through some things. Like he said, he stopped being dishonest with himself. And I don’t know if he ever considered himself a genius. Every python brought something to the table. The whole group was just fun dynamite.
@@Picnicl Well said
It's possible to be perfectly mediocre, intellectually, and still be totally screwed up. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that in my opinion it's entirely possible to be a total moron *AND* be completely screwed up! And now, with an opposing view, Graham Chapman.
...
Well, so much for the opposing view.
Next up - winning arguments with dead people - hard or easy?
I love how brutally honest they all were
It’s all part of growing up and being British.
@@TastySurrealBowlbeing British is the exact opposite of being brutally honest
Politeness and awkwardness is the order of the day when one is British.
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My favourite Python by far. Just something about him, his expressions, his stance, his delivery. Obviously they all made it great but Graham stood out for me.
These guys are like the Beatles of comedy.
Absolute geniuses!
It would have been lovely, clever Graham's 80th birthday today (8.1.21). Life wasn't always easy for him but he's still loved and missed even after all these years.
Happy birthday Graham.
As an alcoholic... that ending line talking about a half empty bottle of vodka before lunch hits HARD.
He did get himself sober between Holy Grail and Life of Brian and in latter he was sober and his superior acting ability of all Pythons shines through.
@MidnightSundowns..,.. 💀..had I been there, there sure as Hell wouldn't have been "half the bottle" left..!!
He drank a quart of gin a day for years. I've been there, not so much on spirits but it's a horrible horrible condition to have.
Sometimes it's scary where you look and say where the f did most of that quart go?
I love Graham, especially when he played the Colonel or any character that was upper-class...guess with him actually being a doctor that these roles suited him best. I think it was John who had said that the Cheese Shop sketch was his favorite and that it was Graham who had written it. Sad that he passed away fairly young but thankful that we can still see his gift for comedy on screen!
I really liked him as police officers and military figures, you wonder if he based it off his dad who was a constable
As it stands Terry Jones can no longer speak because of Dementia. It's likely the world is going to lose another Python here before long. Thanks to all 6 of you for everything you've done, hopefully you guys suffer minimally in your final years.
🙏 Amen.
Well said. Terry Jones is not only a fantastic performer and writer but a superb historian and its a crime what has happened to him.
I read a few weeks back that Michael Palin was reading to him an old comedy annual they had written together and Terry was laughing only at the jokes he himself had written. It's heartbreaking but I smiled at the thought that Terry is still here and annoying Michael Palin EVEN with dementia
jesus. that's so fucking sad. people growing old and getting horrible diseases makes me not believe in god. it's all that suffering for no reason.
Welp, as Cleese said, four to go.
Plot Twist: Michael Palin is actually Korean.
Plot Twist: Terry Gilliam is actually American
Oh wait.
Somebody boil a bunch of water!
@@johnmccarthy4134plot twist Monty Pythons Flying Circus was originally called Spike Milligans Q5 😜
Lemon Curry?
By far the best actor in the Holy Grail without a doubt.
He was chosen as the main actor for HG and LoB, because the other pythons considered him to be the best actor of the 6 of them
He had spent most of his life "acting" so it makes sense
@@D.A.D.D.Y. I noticed that. I think sadly he was always deflecting from who he really was, and without any disrespect to the other Pythons, I believe he felt he had to always be in "clown mode" to get through the day - hence the drinking
The most loved , and recitable lines of all time , we owe to the Monty Python group.
Fondly remember those days in the early 70s of going into my parents room and firing up the old B&W with the antennae from hell that needed a different adjustment every week just to watch Monty Python through the static. My dad dismissed them and yet began watching them with me. It's a shame to get old. RIP Graham and Terry....and thank you!
Bless the Pythons for ultimately being so good to each other
If Graham had been sent back to the factory, he wouldn’t have been half as brillant. Genius
If Michael did come out and say that he was Chinese, I can just imagine Eric saying, "Don't worry Michael, just remember, 'I like Chinese. I like Chinese'."
tellymad649 I like their tiny, little trees.
+BronyDan Donald Trump is quite popular in those sides I see.
+Steven Kavanagh ....Their zen, their ping-pong, their ying and yang'es.
***** like I'm gonna remember a context of my comments from a year.
Today, saying he's Chinese would get Michael accused of "cultural appropriation." Having said that, can you imagine the fun that the pythons would have today with ridiculous ideas like cultural appropriation?
Graham's birthday today. He would have been 79.
Happy birthday Graham, wherever you are.
Thank you Graham....you made my life a happier, more absurd place; and I am truly grateful.
From the outside looking in, it seems blindingly obvious that Graham was all too aware of the attitude towards homosexuals at the time, and was maybe even ashamed of it himself (because of societal pressures, not because it is actually something to be ashamed of), so instead of confronting and accepting who he was, he drank himself silly as a form of escape. This is a common reason for narcotics abuse, to escape from reality, to escape from what you perceive as problems, instead of dealing with them.
+Pork Woofles He actually quite enjoyed being gay especially getting laid.
Not convinced about that. I think he drank to try and kill his shyness. It's common for alcoholics to come through that route. Keith Moon was the same.
Not sure where you get the idea that self harm is more prevalent in gays and trans? Suicide is definitely more common in trans people but for a different reason.
Also he did say in the video it wasn't till he was about 25 when he realised his focus on marrying his steady girlfriend wasn't what he wanted out of life. So he definitely struggled with it before he accepted it.
Let me think... I am an alcoholic and in AA I realised that most of us are just running from ourselves. We self medicate ourselves of whatever reason.
True, although who knows what was eating him from inside, maybe it wasn't even his homosexuality. And often we don't even understand what it is that is eating us from inside (for example, I recently learned, that an ischemic brain damage, aka stroke, can be one of the possible causes, say if it affects, well basically anything, but say learning abilities, or say the part responsible for controlling management of basic motivation, etc. and so forth).
BTW, strokes in kids are also a thing, from different things, but also (or maybe especially, nowadays, because it's so common) from vaccines (if we paid attention to evaluate children before and after a vaccination, we would realise this long ago, but we don't, most damages go unnoticed, ah, it's a long story...)
Graham you are SO missed. 🥰 The favorite of the group for me.
Lemon Curry!?
I don't care what they said about Graham, from what I've heard about him I think he was a sweetie. For example Hazel Pethig (Pythons' costume designer) said that when she had to spend half the night making costumes for the maidens in Castle Anthrax she remembered "Graham Chapman staying up with me saying "go to bed woman, go to bed". He was so sweet". I don't think the others would have done that.
Apparently he started drinking as a boy to cover up his terrible shyness so presumably all those drunken antics were very much out of character. He was obviously highly intelligent and in interviews always comes across as charming and modest.
He was gay. He said he didn't like the dishonesty of having to hide this (back in the day 🙄). This double life would turn most people to drink or substance abuse.
Love them all, for their gifts, the things they shared, their differences, their, oh, heck, for just being willing to be silly on the world stage! Now that's something! So sad now, they are one more down, with the passing of the great Terry Jones. I'll just try to remember the soaring joy of laughter he left, and try to set aside the deep pain that he is gone. At least set it aside for the moment.
I do agree, all the greats were troubled.... i would put forth he drank just to deal with ordinary society. Hell, I would. Marvellous chap, dearly missed :(
+Red Floyd.
It always makes me feel terrible when I realize that the concept of being gay or lesbian makes me uncomfortable. I do not hate anybody because they're that way. In fact, my cousin, whom I love dearly, just came out, and I have other gay/lesbian friends. I feel terrible for how he must've been treated.
Thank you. Your comment laid my mind at rest.
And now we lost Terry Jones...😢
"didn't like being dishonest" hits very close to home for me!!!
pain often finds a way out
A *brilliant* comment! Yes! Wish I had written that!
Im sorry to hear about his alcoholism. I love all these guys and their comedy... how much joy they've added to my life. Feels like discovering my family member had a problem and I didnt notice.
The most pythonesque of the Pythons, a mad genius.
I was in several performing groups, and can’t imagine not having interest in each other. And then being as great as they were.
4 pints of gin ... a DAY! Holy crap, that's a lot of alcohol.
Need I also mention that London gin is among the strongest alcoholic drinks in the world?
StonyRC....I've known a couple of hardcore professional drinkers. When you found how much they really drink it's pretty eye opening!
One guy drank from the moment he got up...till he went to bed....All day, all night.... everyday.... but he never seemed drunk. Of course, the booze finally got him. RIP....
StonyRC it sounds like a lot but alcoholics can astonish with their alcohol intake. Especially when it’s bad bad.
@@greatbyrondo ... he died last year at the age of 102...
Slacker!
The fact he was really serious is what made him the star of the show.
Tortured genius.
Can anyone tell me which documentary this is?
You had a few pints of pint of gin sweetheart?
Marek Gerard you must have with that fucking sentence
Yes, like Van Gogh.
@@elnoruego6854 It's called "Monty Python The Truth" it's on Netflix currently, along with almost all of MP's greatest hits
I actually snorted at Cleese's comparison with it being like Michael Palin suddenly said "I'm Chinese" hahaha
I'm 46 and I never knew graham was gay what a legend for coming out all those years ago he was taken too young ,he gets a little beating here but what would life of Brian and Holy grail be without him
"I don't mean efficient in a Prussian sense"
For some reason, this line really cracked me up.
I completely dig this guy. Supremely talented, but obviously recoils at the idea of anyone else conceiving of it. The curse of genius!
RIP Graham Chapman thanks for all the laughs always 🙏💗🙏💗
after the bunny and swallows.
I remember Graham coming on stage at the Mandela concert and asking the crowd for 30 seconds of abuse. The sound of 80000 people shouting profanities at the South African government was deafening. Only Graham would think of something like that. He did like the gestures
Graham is my favourite Python and despite his flaws and excesses, he was incredible
A handsome man in the manner of Bob Peck. I think this lent a certain authenticity to his British Army officer roles.
@gabiotta You have to remember, for almost the entire Monty Python run Graham was drunk off his ass. Have you ever tried to work with someone who was always drunk? You'd be a bit rough on them too. It's easy for us to think they were being mean since we didn't have to go through take after take because a drunk cast member couldn't remember his lines. Not to talk down on Graham, no one is perfect.
there was always that dark streak to PYTHONS humour and the different members obviously contributed their own flavour to the sketches I remember hearing early interviews with Chapman and noticing more of a serious streak to his character and a side the others may not have always favoured but it all adds to the creativity RIP Graham!
Graham was the only one who wasn't public school educated. I think he was more in touch with the ordinary bloke in the street, so when he played posh it was even more biting.😄
Was he at least buried with his coconuts?
I've 'thumbs upped' your comment but, actually, he didn't have any coconuts - he was the bloody King!
No he was just burned with coconuts.
As all mighty steed.
You are showing a distinct tendency to become silly...
Would you like to be buried with a joke?
A supremely gifted spontaneous off the wall erratic genius. My favorite Python, the most indispensable of the lot. Surely they must have resented how irresponsible and unprofessional Graham could be and yet be so talented. They had to work their arses off, he didn't. They expected more from him, because they saw so much in him to love and admire, but that's not how genius works, it cannot be confined or counted on to perform on cue, only enjoyed and marveled at when it feels like gracing us with it's presence.
Thank you for such silliness and so many laughs.
Joe Strummer said of Mic Jones that he was late all the time so much that it became one of the reasons he sacked him, only later to realize that talent is worth waiting for, this piece just reminded me of that.
Upper class twit of the year- I nearly died laughing.
“But he didn’t work properly.”
Loved all the Python guys but i think Graham may have been the one most fans liked the best. Others may argue that it was John who was the biggest stand-out. He did go on with a super successful show Faulty Towers.
Graham was impeccable as King Arthur.
Such a fun character indeed!
And yet he became the brilliant leading man in the films.
I'm so sorry Graham. You were going off the rails early on and no one was there to stop you. xx RIP
Its hard to pick a favorite but i identify most with Mr Chapman. Alcoholism isnt a disease. Its an adaptive strategy like any addiction. Its not the drug. Its the trauma you are trying not to feel. Im sorry Graham. That society is such a shit that it couldnt afford being good to you. He deserved better. He deserved being accepted for who he was.
Lol, I find it so odd how they said they he was bad at his lines yet I see him in that "Johann Gamblepuddy..." sketch. That must have taken so many takes!
I did know graham, for a number of years he was really quite a nice guy! He was more, then happy to visit my youth theater i was in at the time. Some interesting stories, from those days, at EYT.
Sad sad loss, but such an amazing actor. I think he was probably the best 'serious' actor in the Python troupe.
So sad, he managed to kick his four pints of gin a day habit, went through the DTs etc. in an almost olympian feat. but all that damn pipe sucking did his throat in. Poor old chap.
Graham had issues but he was funny and Monty Python would not of been the same without him, to bad he died much younger than he should off.
* should have
I visited The Angel pub in HIghgate because I heard Graham Chapman was a regular there. I didn't see him but I saw Ray Davies from The Kinks, so that was a good result!
It's interesting to watch this and see the distance that they all portray, which I'm sure at some point in time is true, but also to go back and watch Graham's early home movies and see John feature prominently in them. At the beach, at the lake, in the US, all things done pre-Python when they were very young. If you're in private home movies, you're friends.
Thank you for these thought that TH-cam had gotten rid of them. 😂😂😂
This seriously makes Graham out to be a flaming rainbow-friendly boozer. Everyone has a dark side - whether it be alcoholism or whatever it may be - but surely they could've talked more about his contributions to the team moreso.
I don't know which show or documentary this clip is from but it seems to me that it's just that: a clip. I for one love the fact that we can actually learn how a person truly was during his life, warts and all. If we want more positivity there are tons of other videos (including the absolutely beautiful eulogies at his funeral) and of course there's the show and the movies. I'd actually like to know the name of this show or documentary to watch it in full and get to know a great man a little better. And I keep thinking it would be great if they asked each member to talk like this about all the other Pythons so that we can watch them later when they, you know, unfortunately but inevitably move on as well.
+Zach Brookes I've met people who knew Graham, and apparently he was a flaming rainbow-friendly boozer. You make it sound like it's a bad thing.
+Joseph Scott Not at all - my point was (and maybe I should've been clearer) that in the other montages when they're discussing the other members, they're not as brutally honest. Sure, his sexuality and drinking were part of who he was, but when a comedian's private life is brought to the forefront over their comedy, it gives the illusion that all they worked for is tossed aside, even in a personal documentary like this one. Maybe it's because Graham's not here anymore and therefore, the brutal honesty comes all-guns-blazing.
Well maybe they did and it was edited out
Graham was a tortured genuis. An extremely intelligent man with a prolongied identity crisis. But a great actir and comedian. So sad that he died 12 years before I was born :(
7:12
4 pints... Imperial, British (I presume)... that is over 2 liters. Actually more than 2200ml, meaning over 2.2L. Of gin.
I'm an alcohol, and in earlier years I had played drinking games that I would make up. Among them, was to watch a film and to establish rules of when to drink, USUALLY revolving around when one character or all characters drink throughout the film. The most hardcore, for me, was Drunken Master which I MAY have even watched without pause which means... dang, I was pushing myself, and I do remember that night I NEARLY got sick and I had a BAD night's sleep but ultimately I do not think that I vomited if I'm not mistaken and I survived.
I think it was the '90s remake, which I think in Hong Kong/China would be Drunken Master 2 but here it was Legend of the Drunken Master because the original Drunken Master from the '70s starring a VERY young Jackie Chan who actually played a character who was a PRICK, did not see international release or at least perhaps not success. And yeah, wow, just the IDEA of Jackie Chan playing a character that doesn't have a heart of gold is kinda... hard to imagine. He's always so good, and he seems like a genuinely good man as well so yeah it's interesting to see him in Drunken Master in like 1978 and he's lying, cheating, manipulating... though some of it apparently comes from his own difficult youth when food was scarce and it was hard to survive and he was often hungry.
Anyhow, that was like 15oz (around 450ml) of liquor (I think a bit stronger than 40%) within about 2 hours. I have also drank I think 1L of vodka within I think it was 12 hours.
2.2L in one day? I... I believe I could do it. I DO NOT WANT TO lol I am KIND of a recovering alcoholic... ish... definitely doing MUCH better than before and my withdrawal symptoms are almost non-existent now. But wow... well let me crunch some numbers and see what 2.2L of 40% ABV (alcohol by volume) gin would equate to in terms of a typical 355ml can of beer... I'm pretty good at this sort of math. Or 'maths' as my brethren in the United Kingdom put it, which I regard as my ancestral homeland based on my known genealogy.
49.577 beer, 355ml at 5% (10 proof) alcohol by volume. THAT has the same alcohol content as 2.2L of gin at 40%.
... THAT... is a lot of beer. If I drink a dozen of those QUICKLY, I can get drunk and go to sleep. Slow? 15-18 perhaps and I'm dandy.
The thing is, I've never been a morning drinker as I recall. Have I drank in the morning after I woke up? On rare occasions, yes, when my withdrawal struck early, but again my withdrawal is almost non-existent now and most days I have seemingly none or at least nothing noteworthy or bothersome or noticeable. Generally, I tried to keep it at 3:30PM at the earliest, which I regarded as acceptable, because typically 8-10 hours later I was lights-out and typically that's early enough to wake up right-as-rain in the morning because hang-overs were and are extremely scarce and when I do feel a slight hang-over it's not even worth a single regular-strength Tylenol.
So I wasn't drinking ALL DAY. Just, about, half or a little more than half of my typical time spent not sleeping. And well, while sleeping, I become sober. So if I DRANK SLOW to where I can drink throughout the day, and then drank from morning to night, I will not endeavor to experiment with it but I can say with absolute confidence that I could boost up my amount of drinking SUBSTANTIALLY by kinda playing 'the long game' with it and stretching it out from my earliest hours after waking to my last hours before sweet oblivion of slumber, ideally consensual, but well in my experience of being a longtime heavy drinker you don't always get to remain with your conscience until you decide to go to sleep. Sometimes... sleep comes and takes you lol And I have seen the video of me with my slick headphones on having COMPLETELY passed out where I sat in my chair at my computer and the person had cranked up the audio on said computer to bust so that even though I have headphones on the video can easily hear what is blaring into my ears on bust... and I have no recollection of it and I did not wake up and I think it was some sort of AT LEAST hard rock but possibly could have been something metal like Megadeth or maybe that song Get Down with the Sickness or Metallica or something like that.
I am also intimately familiar with the difference between 'blacking out' and 'passing out.'
So I regard myself as a BIT of an unfortunate expert in the field of obliterating one's self with excessive amounts of liquid courage.
That's my take on that little quote from the late, highly talented, extremely gay, Graham Chapman on his alcoholism lol Sorry, I did find that funny, 'extremely gay' lol And it's next to 'highly talented' so it's in a positive light but yeah I just added that for yucks :P Anyhow it's my genuine perspective on what I heard, providing an alcoholic perspective on an alcoholic's confessions of alcoholic drinking to perhaps help bring it into an articulation that helps non-alcoholics better understand.
I mean... 50 typical 355ml (in American, 12oz) cans of 5% beer. That's PRETTY MUCH what he said he'd have daily... THAT IS A LOT. It's not something I have never heard of, I 100% believe him, but yeah that is A LOT! Quite literally people have shared stories of either personally drinking or having worked with and known someone who had personally drank 2 two-fours (24-case) of beer, meaning 48 beer. I don't know if it was light beer at 4% or regular at 5% but on some level that does not matter. Because either way... THAT IS A LOT OF BEER!
Do not drink to excess, be careful and safe, it is good to consider your health and AVOID addictions.
God bless, Christ loves you, God rest Graham Chapman's immortal soul, take care and I hope you have/had a great day. The world is a lonely place these days, maybe lonelier than humanity had ever known... it would be good to talk to someone, whether it be for your benefit or theirs or both. It would be good and nice to take a moment to ask a question, to listen to the answer, and to converse. :) You have the potential of greatness in you.
Chapman was gay? First i'd ever heard about it. Good on him for having the balls to come out at one of the hardest times for gay people to come out.
At about 4:44 Barry Cryer says that Graham would add tonic to "whatever it was". It was gin, Graham's drink of choice. Or as he said it himself, ginandslimlinetonicwithicebutnolemonin.
the brian jones of the pythons.
I was just thinking that.
there is a wonderful audio play called pythonesque. i would recommend you give it a listen.
Palin once referred to a sketch that they couldn't finish as Graham was too drunk. Years ago, I saw a Python repeat of the 4th series on late-night telly, featuring a sketch that was clearly a different take to the one on the official video (this was the 1990s), the Programme Planners sketch ('Doctor At Bee!'). A quick comparison with the VHS showed a shadow on the set floor not visible on the VHS, a better performance by Eric and Palin improvising re his parrot Xerxes, as well as Terry throwing in a line about cripples. This must be the sketch that Mike was referring to and I've never seen that edit of the sketch since.
Well he's really gonna be late now...
Now Terry is gone, too.
@TheLizGang
This is from Monty Python's Almost The Truth, according to the Pythons themself the most perfect documentary they ever had. It was released some months ago, maybe a year... so it's quite new
(I can recommend this strongly, very interesting and funny)
One of the geniuses of the funniest ensemble ever.
During his drinking days I remember seeing him in the Angel pub with Harry Nilsson, the singer, both at the bar, both pissed, wearing silly hats they’d made out of tinfoil, acting stupidly and winding up the landlord who I think threatened to chuck em out.
Not surprising that the pythons were not close friends. What is rather beautiful is that, even in spite of Chapman's many problems, they did not officially continue Python after he died.
Sometimes it's better not to know of the behind the scenes relationships of creative groups. That goes for bands too. It spoils the magic to learn of the discord of Python, The Beatles, The Stones, etc.
Very well said.
ThatDifferentDude there was magic in a group that treat grannies like thugs, killed a parrot, repressed a citizen, had an innocent woman framed as a witch, arrested a Hungarian, shot a store clerk, AND made fun of religion?
Uh, not for me. That's life. Don't enjoy hearing something like one person absolutely hated another but that isn't the case here. It is reality which is something they took their shots at with absurdity.
In some way I think you're right. However, blissful ignorance is still ignorance.
Povl Besser But rarely is anything so distinctively original and to the intellectually complacent, as confrontational as ‘The Life of Brian’, created by the reasonable.
'Michael that is a surprise' fucking love Cleese
Funny how they talk about him as an odd ball but on Parkinson he seemed very together and open. Maybe by 1980, sober and out about his sexuality, he'd found some peace.
Been watching a lot of Python recently, it strikes me that Chapman was the best character actor of them, he could do any kind of weird part and you'd be convinced that it was the kind of character he always did then he do something completely different (pun intended) and be just as great. There's no time where he doesn't seem perfect for whatever part it was, from army officers, to snivelling little twerps to Las Vegas singer, to east end gangster