@@TheDanzomida It is such a logical sound to use. Like, rather than the old, annoying "Ding♪", this new sound really captures the unique spirit of this small indie company
So weird that reforged Thrall model uses his post-Cataclysm outfit and look, instead of the Doomhammer armor he's supposed to be wearing during WC3 events... These are like 10-15 years apart in-universe
@@horsemumbler1 Yea but then again you have skins in games that completely change the look someone is supposed to have... it's not supposed to be an 'accurate' look of Thrall at the time, it's just supposed to be a skin. Just like the Nightmare Cenarius one for example, or even Jaina where she has the alternate hair color after Theramore (I think?).
If they’re going to add skins only for a few select hero’s especially thrall and Jaina both having skins from the future they should add skins for each race changing the units up and would help a little with distinguishing ally’s and such in competitive matches.
I can't believe how hard it is to distinguish which units were which. Half of the time I thought you were attacking your own dudes! But despite having the wrong outfit, I guess its pretty cool that Farseers can occasionally be Thrall?
The title alone of this video made me laugh out loud and deserves a like. Considering you blend this in with all the other warcraft 3 game challenges you do
The hero glow is much smaller and harder to see, I thought that one point the Archmage attacking you was a creep. Too many and unfinished models also like the fountain of Health that look like a doodad and it's also got the wrong size
good deed idea expanding on the free necropolis video: reverse pick pocket items (can be neutral items, shop items, etc) as many as possible onto the enemy heroes without them knowing (e.g. put items in their inventory while invisible)
it was outsourced by another company that makes 2nd grade games. why would you feel bad about saying things how they are. if anything blame the people who thought outsourcing it was a good idea, they wanted to save money.
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@@fartloudYT They didn't need to save money, they just wanted more money, the 30 dollar tag for a graphical remaster on a 20 y.o. game wasn't enough for them, plus they most surely wanted to monetize it with a store for skins SC2 style.
@@TokiGK Nobody put their souls into reforged. Reforged models were outsourced to South East Asian companies where unpaid overtime is legal. People had their souls *_forcefully put_* into reforged.
Noticed it just now, but look at these "animated" portraits. Some of them are just a still model with tiniest jaw movement on voice lines and an ocassional blink. And then open any Dota game and see what portraits look there. Also, could you see the invul effect at 9:15?
My take on reforge graphics: I watched this episode through my iPad, which I normally have no trouble with. In this game, I couldnt tell who’s units belonged to which player. So I brought the iPad close to my face, and I still couldn’t tell. There is no color pop whatsoever.
honestly the creep in reforged doesn't look that bad i mean yeah the orgres suffer from the samey feel to em like i mentioned in a previous video about the building... but they really don't look bad at all. i also noticed the the new model for chieftain has two very different attack swings, i think for the scaffolding for the structures needs a recolouring to a more.... lighter coloured wood texture, the fact its the same colour as the greathall makes it almost invisible at first glance. i think a creep only army using banshees on reforged would be amazing. not only as a challenge since the type of creep depends on the map and the person your against if unknowingly killing what will be your army eventually but also you will be able to get a little more up close and personal to view the models in action.
@@AnimeCritical the auto defeats, broken cutscenes and massive amount of bugs are quite hilarious. If you don't think so simply snort another line and try again.
Thanks Grubby for putting on these videos so I don't need to play in Reforged graphics to discover how bad they are as I continue to see new things from your videos. I'm still baffled how the animations and building art got approved and passed Blizzard approvals. It looks like they took a crew of rookie animators and said, we have a simple project you can't mess up. You just need to recreate the graphics for it 🤦♂
I suddenly realised that the Reforged graphics style is in my eyes much closer to how WarCraft 2 would probably look like, if it was created using a 3D engine. I think it is more faithful to the roots of the WarCraft series than WarCraft 3, which brought a huge pivot in stylistic direction. The visual clarity is worse though, which is critical in a competitive environment.
i Just started Wc3 now becouse i got hott seing how you destroy your oppenents with ease. just seems with ease. i played and god bumed hard. its a hard game wich makes much fun.
At least it was only 12 minutes xd I am so glad my old cd key from like 2004 still work and we still can play with old graphics, i d be frustrated if I had paid for reforged.
Heal saulve was kinda.really hard to see if it was activated and working... Along with 98.5% of everything else...but no complaints here... Lost Temple Is Legendary Goat tho
I will admit that from a viewer point of view, it's much better watching this than the old crappy graphics. From a pro player's point of view, I understand that the loss in readability can ruin the experience though.
@@jayjayfabula8675 oh yeah, I didn't noticed... It's just the Far Seer model is actually not Thrall's model, but a model of the Far Seer during multiplayer.......
I'm not sure what everyone's talking abou! I can clearly see what's happening on the screen!! For instance (spoilers) when the MK hurled a stormbolt at the TC! I could clearly see why the TC didn't get hit because he had an invul!!! Definitely visible!!!
Did you make some changes to your graphics settings to make Reforged graphics look slightly less bad than when they were introduced, or did Blizzard actually improve it slightly with patches since then (still has a long way to go)?
Why so much hate? I'm well aware of the whole process that brought Reforged to us. What I'm confused about is why we need to hate it? We have the option to disable, so why spend so much time talking about it? This series of videos just feels like clickbait, and I guess I've been caught in it as well.
You went straight from not saying bad things to blatantly lying about your experience and I can respect that.
Only one hero without units was hard but this seems to be impossible.
For those of you who missed it the tree sound at the end was the upkeep change sound.
LOL no way. Just replayed it back - is this really intended or is it a bug they didn't fix? That is insane. It's at 11:16 if anyone wants to check it
@@TheDanzomida It is such a logical sound to use. Like, rather than the old, annoying "Ding♪", this new sound really captures the unique spirit of this small indie company
Full, official list of good things from Reforged:
- Cool Far-Seer sounds.
- Cool Footman death sound.
So weird that reforged Thrall model uses his post-Cataclysm outfit and look, instead of the Doomhammer armor he's supposed to be wearing during WC3 events... These are like 10-15 years apart in-universe
It's not meant to be accurate to that point in lore. It's based off of a later outfit he wears in WoW.
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That's the guy's point - It SHOULD be a skin of Thrall in time period appropriate(and appropriately cool) attire, but it isn't.
@@davidstaley8203 Is there a different updated model in the campaign? I assumed Reforged uses that one for both Campaign and Melee
@@horsemumbler1 Yea but then again you have skins in games that completely change the look someone is supposed to have... it's not supposed to be an 'accurate' look of Thrall at the time, it's just supposed to be a skin. Just like the Nightmare Cenarius one for example, or even Jaina where she has the alternate hair color after Theramore (I think?).
If they’re going to add skins only for a few select hero’s especially thrall and Jaina both having skins from the future they should add skins for each race changing the units up and would help a little with distinguishing ally’s and such in competitive matches.
I can't believe how hard it is to distinguish which units were which. Half of the time I thought you were attacking your own dudes!
But despite having the wrong outfit, I guess its pretty cool that Farseers can occasionally be Thrall?
The scaling of units and buildings is so awkward weird, it really hurts for old players.
Couldn't even tell if the potion of invul was still working on TC at some point
Or who was the user of Book of the Dead, struggling to see the colour of those skeletons :/
Yeah that was a "highlight" for me as well. Literally couldn't tell the dif
reforged is the most lol thing ever. Died laughing when the TC came out. Who looked at that and let it go off the shelf
LMAO when I heard the ancient build sound (and also pit lord sounds before then?) I knew Grubby would lose this challenge (if he hadn't already) 😂😂😂
The old version landscape looks like a painting while the new just looks like cgi, and feels like a mobile game in the way the units look and act.
- Thrall skin
- He wears some hood instead of his classic black armor
These devs can't do anything right
It's his Skin of the time at the events of catacysmn (World of Warcrafts third expansion)
@@dominikfittschen2955 does wow cataclysm happen after or before wc3?
@@huehue5286 after The Events of wc3
@@dominikfittschen2955 yeah that's what I thought.
The title alone of this video made me laugh out loud and deserves a like. Considering you blend this in with all the other warcraft 3 game challenges you do
you can tell that Grubby is absolutely SEETHING
They should really do a good 'carbot' take on 'cartooned WC3 reforged' like they did with SC1. I really enjoy that skin replayed the campaign with it.
The weirdest thing is the feeling that i am watching a budget copy of the original
the lightning shield and purge stuff looked super cool at least.
The hero glow is much smaller and harder to see, I thought that one point the Archmage attacking you was a creep. Too many and unfinished models also like the fountain of Health that look like a doodad and it's also got the wrong size
good deed idea expanding on the free necropolis video: reverse pick pocket items (can be neutral items, shop items, etc) as many as possible onto the enemy heroes without them knowing (e.g. put items in their inventory while invisible)
Imagine all the people who put their souls into reforged, only to have the biggest wc3 streamer play it as a punishment/challenge :(((
I bet nobody put their souls into reforged lol
No soul was put into reforge tho😂
it was outsourced by another company that makes 2nd grade games. why would you feel bad about saying things how they are. if anything blame the people who thought outsourcing it was a good idea, they wanted to save money.
@@fartloudYT They didn't need to save money, they just wanted more money, the 30 dollar tag for a graphical remaster on a 20 y.o. game wasn't enough for them, plus they most surely wanted to monetize it with a store for skins SC2 style.
@@TokiGK Nobody put their souls into reforged.
Reforged models were outsourced to South East Asian companies where unpaid overtime is legal.
People had their souls *_forcefully put_* into reforged.
Noticed it just now, but look at these "animated" portraits. Some of them are just a still model with tiniest jaw movement on voice lines and an ocassional blink. And then open any Dota game and see what portraits look there.
Also, could you see the invul effect at 9:15?
My take on reforge graphics: I watched this episode through my iPad, which I normally have no trouble with. In this game, I couldnt tell who’s units belonged to which player. So I brought the iPad close to my face, and I still couldn’t tell. There is no color pop whatsoever.
The reforged was never ready until 2032
I am so glad that you liked the new graphics and now you will always play with it.
The Orc buildings look very smol like Activition Blizz PP
Grubby's toughest challeng yet
honestly the creep in reforged doesn't look that bad i mean yeah the orgres suffer from the samey feel to em like i mentioned in a previous video about the building... but they really don't look bad at all.
i also noticed the the new model for chieftain has two very different attack swings, i think for the scaffolding for the structures needs a recolouring to a more.... lighter coloured wood texture, the fact its the same colour as the greathall makes it almost invisible at first glance.
i think a creep only army using banshees on reforged would be amazing. not only as a challenge since the type of creep depends on the map and the person your against if unknowingly killing what will be your army eventually but also you will be able to get a little more up close and personal to view the models in action.
Most of the units look great individually, but in actual gameplay they can be quite hard to distinguish
Feral spirits look like squirrels
As someone who only plays the campaign of WC3, I appreciated the Reforged changes a lot but I understand the complaints of ladder players
What changes you liked in campaign?
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@@AnimeCritical the auto defeats, broken cutscenes and massive amount of bugs are quite hilarious. If you don't think so simply snort another line and try again.
@@Lezeik1 Ummm please check the name in the comments before replying.
Campaign only LMAAAAAAO
All these orcs look like they‘ve been reimagined as snails and tortoises
Well it's not so bad really, if you just listen to it.. like a podcast you know? 😁
slowly descends into passive aggressiveness
Holy shhhht, i can barely distinguish enemy vs foe vs neutral when they were fighting under fountain healing.
same. But as a casual I have to say that I have the same problem with original graphics. Maybe it needs some getting used to.
Nice man! Dont forget to play with Reforged graphics from time to time.
Thanks Grubby for putting on these videos so I don't need to play in Reforged graphics to discover how bad they are as I continue to see new things from your videos. I'm still baffled how the animations and building art got approved and passed Blizzard approvals. It looks like they took a crew of rookie animators and said, we have a simple project you can't mess up. You just need to recreate the graphics for it 🤦♂
Been playing this game since 2007, and honestly, this hurts to look at!
I've had hard times following what is going on because of the graphics
sound of AoW being built between a orc vs. hu matchup LMFAOOOOO
That militia did indeed look like a footman. blizz you messed it up so much ...
Without complaining about the reforged, This is a real challange!
I suddenly realised that the Reforged graphics style is in my eyes much closer to how WarCraft 2 would probably look like, if it was created using a 3D engine.
I think it is more faithful to the roots of the WarCraft series than WarCraft 3, which brought a huge pivot in stylistic direction.
The visual clarity is worse though, which is critical in a competitive environment.
Yeah I never liked WC3 style, it is kind of disappointing because it is so tame in everything it does while WC2 was balls to the walls epic.
I feel like sarcasm isnt in the spirit of not complaining.
Even the fountain of health looks like a fountain of death lol
The clickbait game so on point i even click reforged graphics
Edit : when farseer came out i was like wtf naga hero from alter?? then i realized
as someone who sucks at warcraft 3, I can assure you this challenge is harder for me than winning
The description seems... interesting.
This is actually hilarious
Tod should give this challenge a try :)
Another idea for a series " sarcastic statements only about reforged"
i Just started Wc3 now becouse i got hott seing how you destroy your oppenents with ease. just seems with ease. i played and god bumed hard. its a hard game wich makes much fun.
Regorged looks so good,well done Blizzard!!
-Said no one ever,like literally.
Birds flying in the middle like they are high.
3:49 Actually couldn't tell that was a Militia, lol.
😂 you are so positive grubby haha
Best challenge yet.
At least it was only 12 minutes xd
I am so glad my old cd key from like 2004 still work and we still can play with old graphics, i d be frustrated if I had paid for reforged.
you are such a nice guy that whatever the fck you play is cool.
Heal saulve was kinda.really hard to see if it was activated and working...
Along with 98.5% of everything else...but no complaints here...
Lost Temple Is Legendary Goat tho
Silence is golden
grubby's hardest challenge done so far
i almost couldn't recognize which units is which lmao
I will admit that from a viewer point of view, it's much better watching this than the old crappy graphics. From a pro player's point of view, I understand that the loss in readability can ruin the experience though.
Didn't know it was opposite day yesterday in the Netherlands
The grass kinda feel like COC
🤣 I actually thought it was a footman gathering gold from gold mine...not malitia...idk.😂🙄🙄
Never played WC reforged before. But i cant differentiate your units from the enimies ones...
I noticed the Far Seer has Thrall's voice.....
Notice how its now just Thrall, not FS ;))
@@jayjayfabula8675 oh yeah, I didn't noticed...
It's just the Far Seer model is actually not Thrall's model, but a model of the Far Seer during multiplayer.......
thats a skin, it's supposed to be like that
@@boomerangfish3558 oh, ok, it makes sense now......
If you want the definition of Pain, Suffering and Sarcasm. This video will be the perfert explaination and to be used as example.
It looks more cartoony than the original
I'm not sure what everyone's talking abou! I can clearly see what's happening on the screen!! For instance (spoilers) when the MK hurled a stormbolt at the TC! I could clearly see why the TC didn't get hit because he had an invul!!! Definitely visible!!!
I heard a tree, if only they had also reforged my ears, and not just my heart :(
All positive vibes.
My eyes need a heal pot
Grubby blink twice if you are beeing held at gunpoint by a Blizzard "negociator"
I didn't know Grubby was awarded Hero of The Soviet Union and Order of Lenin. Huh..
best graphics ever
The grass looks like toxic waste
Nice outro xD
I didn't know Grubby worked for IGN.
Is reforged worth the price of admission? I used to this wc3 back in middle school with my bro and his friend. That was 21 years ago holy eff...
I can feel you play worse than normal in this reforged. I think play solo hero will do good with this graphic :))
Did you make some changes to your graphics settings to make Reforged graphics look slightly less bad than when they were introduced, or did Blizzard actually improve it slightly with patches since then (still has a long way to go)?
Wow i thought grubbys Screen were broken
Do you keep your cool Far Seer if you switch off Reforged Graphics?
Craziest challenge yet
I failed hard lol 😂. It is still just so hard for me to see the enemy on the reforge graphics.
Man as a former player myself this is hard to watch its like if they somehow downgraded the graphics
Fun to see LT map in a new perspective almost 20 years later 🥸
First
Anyone else just play WC3 vs computers still?
Custom campaign
Yes, normal maps vs ai. Always
@@krippaxxuseredarlordofthes9940 that's me. normal maps vrs ai. usually insane.
i never understood how reforged ended up looking so absolutely terrible
Why you love the new Graphics so much ?
Why so much hate? I'm well aware of the whole process that brought Reforged to us. What I'm confused about is why we need to hate it? We have the option to disable, so why spend so much time talking about it?
This series of videos just feels like clickbait, and I guess I've been caught in it as well.
7:12 enemy also playing on Reforged graphics so he thinks he has surround
12:16 😆
almost everything you said was sarcastic xD
they should've actually spent time by now actually refining reforged graphics. I do like the more modern look tbh
I can’t see what was your units and what were his units
I'll do it for you, Grub... OMG IT IS SO BAD!
I don't remember hero's being in Warcraft 2. (Graphics joke)