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i think we could have a good talk from the perspective of dads with MTashed and we will definitely get tectone on which we can talk about literally anything
Maybe a podcast about upcoming gacha games like one punch man world, solo leveling gacha, 7 deadly sins gacha, new part 2 for honkai impact that is dropping at the end of february etc.
ifrit for smack and stuff and you volkin is a demon from islamic and i think some middle eastern mythos known to be from jinn and such really cool stories behind them
• Brokeback Gacha • One Smack Man • Volkincast • Volkswaggin (Volkswagen + swag) • Husbandos • Stelle’s Secret • Ancient Gachacast of the Forgotten Soulsworn Sealord • Bubbles • Men Talk Gacha • Genshin Could Never
Sometimes less is more. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Tectone's podcast as well, but it's also nice having less people on it at the same time because I feel like it leads to a better discussion. A lot of the times on Tectone's podcast he asks a question, you have 5 people waiting for their turn and usually by the 4-5th person, everything has been said already, so they don't have much to add to the conversation. I think 3 is the perfect number and 4 can work, but when it's 5-6+, then it can get too chaotic.
@@PersonaPrime well tectone also does it to bring up smaller channels and give them an opportunity but I see your point and I agree everything is pretty much said before the last person
As someone who plays both games, if Genshin gives an extra 10 pull it’s still not enough tbh, the lack of rewards and recognition for three years is wayy too long to ignore. There needs to be a meaningful change in rewards and gameplay to ensure longevity tbh
I think genshin leads have takes there decision about a lot of stuff the think that pisses me off 2 years ago ( i think its the good timeline) was raiden being a polarm user when we already got 30 pole arme users and on the boss fight she was so sick but none of her boos kit was taken to make her abilities,then they come with heizou tatalist martial artist why they did'nt made all archon tatalist bu they use their elements to use their weapon types. And i will not even mention lack of stuff to do and paymon and other annoying stuff. This game was good at launch and only at launch after its was only the story make it playable but now there is nothing really existing in the game it's sad but it's what they wanted to be a casual game where the main goal is collecting character and that's all
I actually love this because I see this podcast having a lot more of a mature and level-headed vibe vs the one that tectone hosts. Really excited for these.
I agree. It's a good contrast to tectone's gachacast. I hope Volk keeps the number of hosts low as there's some discussion that gets lost/diluted/hard to get meaningful discussions when you have a big group and have to get everyone to contribute equally and hear everyone out.
@@ForceG27 also feels like theres just wayyy too many guest in his podcasts i always find it really hard to follow wht theyre discussing. This right here, with just 2 dudes talking about things tht theyre actually interested in is just easier to watch and listen to.
I hope Wuthering Waves will be a breath of fresh air compared to Genshin. By that I mean, challenging, fun, and not so monotonous that you just do events like a list of chores that need to be finished. Having high level characters means nothing when you can beat bosses like they're made of cardboard. And MHY might actually change their ways with competition. Keyword "might"
I hope so too but most of all, I hope the story is to the point and interesting. The amount of unnecessary boring dialogue I had to click through in Genshin was crazy.
Ya lighthearted... with the guy behind Chapter 9 and 25 not to mention the stuff with the flame chasers... yup I'm calling 1/2 deaths in this arc. As for who IDK probably not Welt you'd need a Aeon to kill him off I'd say one of the new characters + sadly Our Flame Queen Himeko however Welt is here hmmm maybe Dan?
He was killed in Loufu. Killing him again without knowing much about him aside from other people will be trash story telling. Same with Himeko, we don't know anything about her to actually feel anything about her death. I'm betting Firefly. Also, we can't forget that Dan, March and Trailblazer are the main trio like Kiana, Raidein Mei and Bronya. Anyways, I want my 5* March. So maybe March will get speared.
Himeko is FAR more important in HSR to the plot compared to Hi3. So don't expect to see her die any time soon. Read her lore she way more important than Welt's old ass whom is trying to go home. It's also way too obvious, unoriginal, and cliché to kill Himeko (especially) or Welt. It wouldn't hit AT ALL it'd just be shock value. I personally don't think ANYONE important is dying. I think there will bonds and relationships formed....and they'll betrayals as well as sacrifice. Death isn't only way to create stakes. It'd FAR more impressive to create tension, drama, and stakes without solely relying on clichés.
@@communitygamer117 true we haven’t seen an Aeon’s power yet but at the same time don’t underestimate Herrschers ya the weaker ones aren’t super strong however others like End of Part 1 Kiana is in the top 5% of Fiction in terms of power so ya we still need to see than Aeon do something.
Awesome podcast guys! You guys vibe really well together. As someone who also plays star rail and Honkai Impact 3rd (getting ready for part 2 revamp) and gonna go heavy on Wuthering Waves when the game drops and during the cbt. I'm always down for some good conversations if you guys ever need a guest to fill in dude!
im just happy we got 10 extra pulls for no reason at all lol for a total of 20 not counting events and exploration in star rail. also expect emotional damage cause the writer for this arc is the same writer who wrote final lesson
I think this is the thing exactly. The rage over the 3 wishes was because it was supposed to mark 3 years of commitment. The extra 10 pull just kind of came out of nowhere and wasn't really for any achievement (although you could say 2.0 releasing is big). I think it's definitely the framing that creates such a drastic difference!
@@araulen4820 yeah genshins devs are just so out of touch and treat their players like nothing more than a bank they can withdraw money from. thats 1 reason why when wuthering waves releases i will simply forget genshin even exists lol
@@MrBentalton777 WuWa actually listened to their player and made major changes!! that means more to me than free 10 pulls in any gacha game :D (free 10 pull is obvious a good thing but listening to players just makes it more special)
This is fun to listen to, glad y’all are bringing some laughs and more of your thoughts to us! Personally I play honkai/genshin and I agree genshin is specifically about charcters and honkai too. But in honkai what keeps me is the fact that there is a sense of challenge to it, there is levels I cannot clear and I’m sure certain charcters will make it easier but building is so strategic and genshin kinda doesn’t have that value for me. I also play so casual, that it takes forever to build anyone. So honkai is better because you can do more faster and makes me feel like my time is valued more
Still finishing the episode but you guys are enjoyable to listen to! If you want an average Gacha data point, I'd be happy to share my experience as a full-time worker with various Gacha games in my gaming history (primarily Summoner's War, Fire Emblem Heroes, and now HSR! Will be looking forward to future episodes!
Really enjoyable! Keep up the good work. Also, on the topic of transmog farms in WoW... I remember running Illidan weekly with 2 characters or so to get Cursed Vision of Sargeras! Eventually II ended up geting both warglaives and toridal? (the sunwell leg bow) but on my druid... Still siting on my bank as a reminder.
Ok I am SO thrilled the two of you got together to make a podcast. Two CC’s that I love coming together is liquid gold, and I’m here for the Volkin/Smack juicy content that I know the two of you will deliver. Way to go boys 👏👏👏 @Volkin and @GachaSmack
Love this podacast. Been watching Volkin for quite some time and Smack as well. 2 great guys and i always watch both of y'all's videos. Keep upnthe great work guys
I like HSR because they don't really power creep character, everyone is usable based on playstyle & end-game content: Bronya : Great for Hypercarry (Extra Action) RMei : Great for Duo DPS and Break Effect Sparkle : Great for High SP-usage Team Tingyun : Great for Energy Regeneration Asta : Great for Team Wide SPD Boost Hanya : Great for Hypercarry (SP Restore) Yukong : Great of Hypercarry (Dmg Buff) Kafka : The Foundation of DoT Team BSwan : Make Kafka & DoT Relevant Again Sampo : Usable for DoT Team Luka : Usable for DoT Team Gunaifen : Usable for DoT Team SWolf : Great for Mono & Single Def Shred Pela : Great for AoE Def Shred Dr.Ratio : Great for Memory of Chaos Topaz : Great for Memory of Chaos Seele : Great for Memory of Chaos Argenti : Great for Pure Fiction Himeko : Great for Pure Fiction Jingyuan : Great for Pure Fiction Serval : Great for Pure Fiction Herta : Great for Pure Fiction Qingque : FOR GAMBLER!!! Jingliu : Great for SU and most content Imb. Lunae : Great for SU and most content Blade : Great for SU and most content Xueyi : Generalist DPS & Toughness Dmg Luocha : Great for Automatic Healing Huohuo : Great for Team Regeneration Bailu : Great for Sustainability & Reviving Lynx : All You Can Eat Healer Fuxuan : Great for Damage Distribution Gepard : Great for Shield Generate Trailbrazer : Great for Taunting You can practically make any team and finish any end game content with ease, as long as you know exactly their playstyle. That's why character-release is interesting. It makes us think how the new character compete in current meta or how it works? HSR releasing Pure Fiction is not just "another cycle of MoC", they make sure all the unpopular character usable. *Also not everyone is lucky enough to get all character, yet they can still progress with the same result and reward with everyone. No Progress Cap here, there's a feeling of security, unlike other game that has P2W-favored reward.*
I really appreciate them for taking about swarm and Gng. There is something that they can do to make it more rewarding. They can add a self modelling resin at the last boss of every run which you can exchange for 40 stamina. So that way it's not totally un reward like before but it's still tame because now you only get one relic of your choice rather than getting 2 random relics from normal SU run.
This was awesome to watch...one thing tho...we need to "bully" smack into trying pgr. i get that WW is coming and don't get me wrong, it looks phenomenal for a gacha game, but even then it doesn't look like It'll hit the same as PGR's pings + core passive system where u don't just wait for CDs to do what u want since u don't actually know what pings ur gonna get which is one of the most unique ways to tackle i combat system in general and i feel smack is genuinely missing out by not at least giving it a shot while waiting for WW. Regardless, hoping this becomes a regular podcast and looking forward to the next one.
yeah i think its gunna be hard to top PGR combat, however i do also think that PGR was made for mobile and thus i actually found harder to play on PC and so thats why i think they have adjusted Wuthering Waves to be more PC keybind friendly
@VolkinYT that is indeed true since WW is releasing on all platforms at launch while pgr took a while to get a pc client even in CN. It's also why PGR combat is mainly grounded (not a negative, imo since it's executed rly well) while WW has a seemingly complex implementation of aerial combat as well.
about the comment you made about ifrit, it comes from the arabic word عفريت or ifreet, it generally means an evil spirit most commonly used to talk about scary demons fun podcast :3
Also, I'm a mom and I've always been a gamer. Both you and GachaSmack are parents as well so it's great to listen to content creators with a more mature prospective on these topics.
Great topics discussed during the podcast! Want to touch on a topic about time commitment and WW. Personally I think content creators will enjoy WW more just because of the time that can be sunk into the game to learn attack patterns, beating the boss, feeling the rush from it, exploration and more. And unfortunately, once again personally, this might make WW a game that I (full time employee who plays 4 other gachas) will have time to dedicate to only during the weekends. Adding to that, if there is a daily or weekly grind, I hope it is not repetitive and boring like Genshin and if it is not repetitive and boring, hope that also don't take up too much time (>40 mins a day) to complete it. Praying that the WW team can find the sweet spot. Looking forward to the next podcast!
Great podcast!! Smack is my favorite creator in the space and this was my first time hearing you Volkin, I loved hearing your thoughts. I’ll be returning weekly 🫡
Ifrit, also spelled as efreet and afrit (Arabic: ʻIfrīt: عفريت, pl ʻAfārīt: عفاريت), is a powerful type of demon in Islamic mythology. The afarit are often associated with the underworld and also identified with the spirits of the dead, and have been compared to evil geniī loci in European culture.
Just got done listening to you guys podcast, and I really enjoy the topics. I’m sub to both of your channels, and been watching both TH-cam content since Honkai star rail came out. I’m looking forward to more podcast with you both, keep up the good work!
Tectone's is more of a panel style which can get overwhelming but have more viewpoints, while 3 to max 4 is much more directly conversational. Both have their merits and I'll probably tune into both
a lot of great coverage and talking points on this podcast. Hope to see more since I enjoy both of your content. - For SU, it has become more of a rogue like slogfest of trying to get lucky to get a decent setup. Tectone has mentioned this, but a mode that has just one giant boss you have to beat, no ads, could work for SU. This could be easily covered story wise as we've seen SW hack the SU and we know the Aeons have struck down the player a few times. Maybe later on down the road, Herta has an issue where a former living Aeon tries to break the SU, same as the Propagation aeon. Or maybe have 1 of a set of aeons we can challenge that is impossible to beat, but you're scored on how much dmg you can deal. It's a weird idea, but I'm sure if it's played around more the team can find something that'll work. - I wholeheartedly agree that modern gamers should definitely have some in person get together gaming with friends, because it just makes gaming 1000x better. I formed a lot of great memories with my siblings, cousins and friends because we'd play games together. I've played a lot of fightings games but the longevity of the game has always felt much longer with friends in person than playing alone. - On the topic of PGR, I hope Smack checks it out, if not for the gameplay then at least for how Kuro games has set up their gacha system and how the devs treat the players. It's like night and day switching back to a hoyo game. Anniversary they give out a 5 star selector, 100% pity on pulling for new 5 stars, their loadout system is an actual loadout system, and as a newer player there's a lot of stuff to do outside of just their standard end game, and the events can be fun to do. Most importantly they have skins that aren't just "character in sunday suit" but skins that also have cosmetic changes for said characters.
Enjoying this podcast. 2 intelligent people having a back and forth conversation instead of 8-10 people having a really broken up mess. Keep up the good work guys.
It is kinda funny,, that Smack says, "It is so important to hear an other person out, and try to understand where they came from"... but then in MrPokkes drama completly dissmises Dreamys standpoint (didn't even read), and onesidedly roasts them. What can i say - a typical hypocrite.
Love the podcast! It's actually very productive especially involving any game that Hoyo makes. Not to mention with two of the people in the industry that I respect the most. With that being said, I'm done with Genshin after Wuthering Waves' release. I'd still stick with the archon quests though since the lore-buff in me is stil interested. However, the malder in me is hungry for some action. Good thing PGR is here, but I want more. 😂
Edit: You two are excellent together! I need you two back every patch 😊 24:00 I feel Volkin on this. However, the way I play Star Rail is to login daily for about a month and then slowly tapir off until its been 3-4 weeks and some drip marketing catches my attention. I used to be daily for the first 4 months of the game but I was entering that resentment stage from being so overprepared and having to be so disciplined with jade and resources. All the gameplay incentive was exhausted and HSR was just a dissapointing checkmark in my day. That led to me taking more breaks from the game. I find that SU has been immense in offering me, a casual player, incentive in the form of jade and credits. I get broke pretty fast when I return for the newest banner and all my reserve energy is gone from farming mats. I find this is what creators like you, smack, and oters play daily and are consistently checking off the boxes, doing the new thing, if the incentive is there, and then pre-farming your next pull because content depends on it. I value what you guys bring for HSR as a whole and I hope sharing my view lets other players feel seen or heard.
In the trailers we’ve seen, sampo has sparkle’s glowing eye effects. I get vibes of game of thrones’ Arya Stark in their masked situation, where she uses different masks to become whoever she wants, with how sparkle changes masks. Idk, y’all might be on to something there lol
Oooo, i always wanted a transmog system with Genshin... but you bring a really interesting point. If they would make the Weapon skins rare drops, i be farming soooo much daily. And i dont even really play Genshin anymore.
It’s insane your synergy, keep it up boys. Loved you single. Love you even more as a couple ❤. And by the way., free to play BCM Upper League 100 is insane Volkin. I barely got into the Upper this seasons with like 250bucks invested and mostly was for Julius.
Dammit Volk. Those CRT TV Halo gaming sessions in the basement with my mates are coming back to me fast. Those were the days. Say what you want guys. Tell me I'm an outdated boomer. But that was my jam back then. That was peak gaming. And it hurts to think about what happened to one of my favorite gaming franchises. But it is what it is.
i for 1 am the guy who logs in for 10-15 min auto clearing my dailies , aka spending my energy and logging back off. till the weekend hits and i can enjoy some of the story/side quests and clear moc/purefiction, before the week resets. i barely dabbed into the golden gears and swarm disaster so far.
I really like this approach of podcast, something a little more detailed about the topics! Not something that really matters, but I would like to share my view about the topics as well, feel free to ignore all of this. - 2.0 Thoughts: I feel the hype really is over the top, but I am hyped more because it is a new region and with new lore too but I do agree that if you take that away, the 2.0 dont feel that much different from a standart patch. I am hyped too because of all the videos and teasers we are getting, like the interview we got today and the posts in hoyolab, those type of things really appeal to me. - Genshin Drama vs Star Rail: For me the difference is not about the quantity of pulls, but the context of them. As Genshin explicit said, those wishes were the representation of the travelers's support for 3 years and the HSR one's had the connotation of being present of excitement for the upcoming update. It is like getting a present for Xmas and the other simply cuz they felt happy, the later feels more personal and not an obligation. 24:00 - I do agree with your perspective about losing your build to the RNG but I view as a way to gauge new mechanics for future kits, without compromise nor expose much of future line ups. Ruan Mei, Black Swan and Sparkle seems to have some inspiration with some of the blessings, could be a delusion of my part tho. However it really is too damn long lol 37:00 YES, I really loved the ZZZ models because they didn't feel bounded to pre-made models. I do hope we get more different types of characters, seeing ZZZ designs first I was expecting something like that with HSR, given the interstellar setting and all. About Wuthering Waves, I agree 100% with you guys!
Great podcast great synergy. This exactly what i like 2 grown ass motherfuckers as myself (kids too) talking about some gacha games. Im old af so its a breath of fresh air when the drama stays out the door..gotta deal with that shit at work anyways
I agree with your take on 2.0, it feels like a standard patch aside from the new story and planet obviously. I personally get more hyped for patches that expand upon the Simulated Universe or end game modes such as MoC and now Pure Fiction
I view star rail as a side game right now..emphasis on “right now”.. HSR is probably the only gacha game story which I actually pay attention to, and whenever a new story quest comes out, I play the shit out of it - i would consider it a “main game” whenever that happens…but after that, I log in, do my dailies, finish my stamina… look at how depressing my gear rolls are.. and that’s it for the day barely even 10 mins honestly. That’s how all gacha games ends up being, it’s why I never really considered having a “main” gacha game. To me, JRPGs are still my main source of gaming interest.
Honestly I think 2.0 is too early for Himeko to kick the bucket, it feels like there's still stuff to learn about this Himeko, I also think it hits more when you kill off a character that has made a big impact on the story.
Yeah, I agree. People forget that HSR is another game, and not HI. If you look into the game, Himeko didnt appear that much to make her death meaningful.
in 41:30 ifrit or afreet in arabic is the word that usually refers to evil jinn or some sort of ghost or spirits or a powerful demon in islamic and arabic culture
New player experience is not that great though, sure you have a lot of content to do but if you pull newer character you will have tougher time to collect materials for ascension (Especially if you have Inazuma character because you need to do 2 whole regions to unlock Inazuma) also even though you have a lot of content explorations primogems are just not that great. Sure you can collect thousand of them as a new player but it will take hours and hours to get even few wishes because most of them are 2-5 primogems and one island of Inazuma gives you ONLY TEAPOT SCHEMATIC WITHOUT PRIMOGEMS it's a joke
@@VolkinYT I think the best time to start in a filler patch like 4.5 so it's easy to catch up with some story and exploration, because 4.6 will be more "heavy" with a new area , interlude chapter , and long awaited character (Arlecchino), etc.
Great first episode, fantastically accurate takes on Genshin and why 2.0 HSR is getting so much hype from Gachasmack, my opinion of him definitely improved from this (I liked his build videos but felt he was a little too argumentative). I'm glad this wasn't about that HSR CC drama I keep hearing about nonstop but do not have a single fuck to give about.
dude i just checked your channel. no way i can bring someone with that much hair on, would make me feel too insecure about my receeding hairline 😂 Keep up the grind mate 👊 feel free to DM me on discord if u wanna chat about content and stuff
I started playing Genshin as my first Gacha 3 years ago, Unfortunately the one i spent money on. For years im like it will get better but i had complaints the first 6 months and none of them have ever been addressed. When you have company that doesn't communicate with the community, give rewards that are truly awful for the amount that the company has benefited from. They make basic changes every 6 months and the character rotation gives people something to do or be happy about. But we as a community failed to hold the company accountable. So they just thought meh who cares they will pay us money anyway.
The main fun that i get from HSR is team building, the gameplay itself is kinda shallow for me. That is why i like MoC more than the roguelike mode. MoC is more a puzzle that you solve by building a team, while the roguelike is just grinding for a run and because i dont really enjoy the gameplay it gets boring really fast. It would be nice if i could change my team more freely during a run so i can try to adapte to a run, like being able to change your whole team at anytime but you only could do it 2 times per run or so.
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Mtashed and Tectone would be great guests!
i think we could have a good talk from the perspective of dads with MTashed and we will definitely get tectone on which we can talk about literally anything
Maybe a podcast about upcoming gacha games like one punch man world, solo leveling gacha, 7 deadly sins gacha, new part 2 for honkai impact that is dropping at the end of february etc.
ifrit for smack and stuff and you volkin is a demon from islamic and i think some middle eastern mythos known to be from jinn and such really cool stories behind them
• Brokeback Gacha
• One Smack Man
• Volkincast
• Volkswaggin (Volkswagen + swag)
• Husbandos
• Stelle’s Secret
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• Bubbles
• Men Talk Gacha
• Genshin Could Never
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Thanks as always mate, especially for all you do when the camera is off. will get u on in the coming weeks
Ahhh man look at Tecy boy being toxic again, can not believe it. Trully that man is a pure soil of the earth-- ehh, I mean eeeeevil
tec like a mosquito...interpret it as u like
@@o.n.t.3868he feeds all the twitch frogs 😂
We are in the podcast meta now boys. Volkin putting up some tough competition for Tectone. Love it!
whod ever wanna watch tectone lmao
@@redemption5763I mean a lot of people apparently
Sometimes less is more. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Tectone's podcast as well, but it's also nice having less people on it at the same time because I feel like it leads to a better discussion. A lot of the times on Tectone's podcast he asks a question, you have 5 people waiting for their turn and usually by the 4-5th person, everything has been said already, so they don't have much to add to the conversation. I think 3 is the perfect number and 4 can work, but when it's 5-6+, then it can get too chaotic.
@redemption5763 eh he's fine. He got over the stupid texan maga phase. He's loud but he is right about genshin
@@PersonaPrime well tectone also does it to bring up smaller channels and give them an opportunity but I see your point and I agree everything is pretty much said before the last person
As someone who plays both games, if Genshin gives an extra 10 pull it’s still not enough tbh, the lack of rewards and recognition for three years is wayy too long to ignore. There needs to be a meaningful change in rewards and gameplay to ensure longevity tbh
I think genshin leads have takes there decision about a lot of stuff the think that pisses me off 2 years ago ( i think its the good timeline) was raiden being a polarm user when we already got 30 pole arme users and on the boss fight she was so sick but none of her boos kit was taken to make her abilities,then they come with heizou tatalist martial artist why they did'nt made all archon tatalist bu they use their elements to use their weapon types. And i will not even mention lack of stuff to do and paymon and other annoying stuff. This game was good at launch and only at launch after its was only the story make it playable but now there is nothing really existing in the game it's sad but it's what they wanted to be a casual game where the main goal is collecting character and that's all
I actually love this because I see this podcast having a lot more of a mature and level-headed vibe vs the one that tectone hosts. Really excited for these.
I agree. It's a good contrast to tectone's gachacast. I hope Volk keeps the number of hosts low as there's some discussion that gets lost/diluted/hard to get meaningful discussions when you have a big group and have to get everyone to contribute equally and hear everyone out.
@@ForceG27 also feels like theres just wayyy too many guest in his podcasts i always find it really hard to follow wht theyre discussing. This right here, with just 2 dudes talking about things tht theyre actually interested in is just easier to watch and listen to.
Totally agree. In Gacha cast, it felt like there was some sorts of politics going.
QQ vs Luka the podcast
no point coz it aint even a competition 😂
Haha you know I'm here for the PVP content. Smack has a spicy floor 12 Luka showcase, I wanna see what you got on floor 12 once sparkle is out. 🀄
I hope Wuthering Waves will be a breath of fresh air compared to Genshin. By that I mean, challenging, fun, and not so monotonous that you just do events like a list of chores that need to be finished. Having high level characters means nothing when you can beat bosses like they're made of cardboard. And MHY might actually change their ways with competition. Keyword "might"
I hope so too but most of all, I hope the story is to the point and interesting. The amount of unnecessary boring dialogue I had to click through in Genshin was crazy.
Ya lighthearted... with the guy behind Chapter 9 and 25 not to mention the stuff with the flame chasers... yup I'm calling 1/2 deaths in this arc.
As for who IDK probably not Welt you'd need a Aeon to kill him off I'd say one of the new characters + sadly Our Flame Queen Himeko however Welt is here hmmm maybe Dan?
Welt died like twice in HI3, but he has the ability to say just "Nuh uh" to death unlike other Herrschers.
He was killed in Loufu. Killing him again without knowing much about him aside from other people will be trash story telling. Same with Himeko, we don't know anything about her to actually feel anything about her death. I'm betting Firefly. Also, we can't forget that Dan, March and Trailblazer are the main trio like Kiana, Raidein Mei and Bronya. Anyways, I want my 5* March. So maybe March will get speared.
Aeon is NOWHERE near as powerful aa an Aeon. He's not even as strong as Emanators. He said so himself. Don't assume Herrschers = Aeons
Himeko is FAR more important in HSR to the plot compared to Hi3. So don't expect to see her die any time soon. Read her lore she way more important than Welt's old ass whom is trying to go home.
It's also way too obvious, unoriginal, and cliché to kill Himeko (especially) or Welt. It wouldn't hit AT ALL it'd just be shock value.
I personally don't think ANYONE important is dying. I think there will bonds and relationships formed....and they'll betrayals as well as sacrifice. Death isn't only way to create stakes. It'd FAR more impressive to create tension, drama, and stakes without solely relying on clichés.
@@communitygamer117 true we haven’t seen an Aeon’s power yet but at the same time don’t underestimate Herrschers ya the weaker ones aren’t super strong however others like End of Part 1 Kiana is in the top 5% of Fiction in terms of power so ya we still need to see than Aeon do something.
Just clicked, but already know this podcast is about to be a banger. Love these two.
Awesome podcast guys! You guys vibe really well together. As someone who also plays star rail and Honkai Impact 3rd (getting ready for part 2 revamp) and gonna go heavy on Wuthering Waves when the game drops and during the cbt. I'm always down for some good conversations if you guys ever need a guest to fill in dude!
I started playing PGR and I am having way more fun only using starter characters
You didnt pull ? Even its not that is amazing. It proof 2 year ago even with end game content, babel tower can be clear with f2p account
I like this, seems more focused. I like Tectones, but this is more discussion based and I'm confident in your ability to remain consistent
im just happy we got 10 extra pulls for no reason at all lol for a total of 20 not counting events and exploration in star rail. also expect emotional damage cause the writer for this arc is the same writer who wrote final lesson
I think this is the thing exactly. The rage over the 3 wishes was because it was supposed to mark 3 years of commitment. The extra 10 pull just kind of came out of nowhere and wasn't really for any achievement (although you could say 2.0 releasing is big). I think it's definitely the framing that creates such a drastic difference!
@@araulen4820 yeah genshins devs are just so out of touch and treat their players like nothing more than a bank they can withdraw money from. thats 1 reason why when wuthering waves releases i will simply forget genshin even exists lol
ay we take extra ten pulls tho thouhg probably since its 2.0 patch but yeah nice to have.
@@MrBentalton777 WuWa actually listened to their player and made major changes!! that means more to me than free 10 pulls in any gacha game :D (free 10 pull is obvious a good thing but listening to players just makes it more special)
@@_butter.cup_ I know it's why I trust kuro more than any other company
This is fun to listen to, glad y’all are bringing some laughs and more of your thoughts to us!
Personally I play honkai/genshin and I agree genshin is specifically about charcters and honkai too. But in honkai what keeps me is the fact that there is a sense of challenge to it, there is levels I cannot clear and I’m sure certain charcters will make it easier but building is so strategic and genshin kinda doesn’t have that value for me. I also play so casual, that it takes forever to build anyone. So honkai is better because you can do more faster and makes me feel like my time is valued more
Still finishing the episode but you guys are enjoyable to listen to!
If you want an average Gacha data point, I'd be happy to share my experience as a full-time worker with various Gacha games in my gaming history (primarily Summoner's War, Fire Emblem Heroes, and now HSR!
Will be looking forward to future episodes!
Really enjoyable! Keep up the good work. Also, on the topic of transmog farms in WoW... I remember running Illidan weekly with 2 characters or so to get Cursed Vision of Sargeras! Eventually II ended up geting both warglaives and toridal? (the sunwell leg bow) but on my druid... Still siting on my bank as a reminder.
dude that is pain
Ok I am SO thrilled the two of you got together to make a podcast. Two CC’s that I love coming together is liquid gold, and I’m here for the Volkin/Smack juicy content that I know the two of you will deliver. Way to go boys 👏👏👏 @Volkin and @GachaSmack
Love this podacast. Been watching Volkin for quite some time and Smack as well. 2 great guys and i always watch both of y'all's videos. Keep upnthe great work guys
This was really nice surprise as a viewer of both of you! :) Looking forward to upcoming episodes!
I think the podcast format really suits you guys. Very fluent conversation, great vid.
I like HSR because they don't really power creep character, everyone is usable based on playstyle & end-game content:
Bronya : Great for Hypercarry (Extra Action)
RMei : Great for Duo DPS and Break Effect
Sparkle : Great for High SP-usage Team
Tingyun : Great for Energy Regeneration
Asta : Great for Team Wide SPD Boost
Hanya : Great for Hypercarry (SP Restore)
Yukong : Great of Hypercarry (Dmg Buff)
Kafka : The Foundation of DoT Team
BSwan : Make Kafka & DoT Relevant Again
Sampo : Usable for DoT Team
Luka : Usable for DoT Team
Gunaifen : Usable for DoT Team
SWolf : Great for Mono & Single Def Shred
Pela : Great for AoE Def Shred
Dr.Ratio : Great for Memory of Chaos
Topaz : Great for Memory of Chaos
Seele : Great for Memory of Chaos
Argenti : Great for Pure Fiction
Himeko : Great for Pure Fiction
Jingyuan : Great for Pure Fiction
Serval : Great for Pure Fiction
Herta : Great for Pure Fiction
Qingque : FOR GAMBLER!!!
Jingliu : Great for SU and most content
Imb. Lunae : Great for SU and most content
Blade : Great for SU and most content
Xueyi : Generalist DPS & Toughness Dmg
Luocha : Great for Automatic Healing
Huohuo : Great for Team Regeneration
Bailu : Great for Sustainability & Reviving
Lynx : All You Can Eat Healer
Fuxuan : Great for Damage Distribution
Gepard : Great for Shield Generate
Trailbrazer : Great for Taunting
You can practically make any team and finish any end game content with ease, as long as you know exactly their playstyle. That's why character-release is interesting.
It makes us think how the new character compete in current meta or how it works? HSR releasing Pure Fiction is not just "another cycle of MoC", they make sure all the unpopular character usable.
*Also not everyone is lucky enough to get all character, yet they can still progress with the same result and reward with everyone. No Progress Cap here, there's a feeling of security, unlike other game that has P2W-favored reward.*
This is gonna be a great podcast cant wait to listen to it while eating
Same, but while pooping
I really appreciate them for taking about swarm and Gng. There is something that they can do to make it more rewarding. They can add a self modelling resin at the last boss of every run which you can exchange for 40 stamina. So that way it's not totally un reward like before but it's still tame because now you only get one relic of your choice rather than getting 2 random relics from normal SU run.
Absolutely loved this first episode, you two fit so well together on this podcast formula and I cant wait until the next episode!!!
This was awesome to watch...one thing tho...we need to "bully" smack into trying pgr. i get that WW is coming and don't get me wrong, it looks phenomenal for a gacha game, but even then it doesn't look like It'll hit the same as PGR's pings + core passive system where u don't just wait for CDs to do what u want since u don't actually know what pings ur gonna get which is one of the most unique ways to tackle i combat system in general and i feel smack is genuinely missing out by not at least giving it a shot while waiting for WW. Regardless, hoping this becomes a regular podcast and looking forward to the next one.
yeah i think its gunna be hard to top PGR combat, however i do also think that PGR was made for mobile and thus i actually found harder to play on PC and so thats why i think they have adjusted Wuthering Waves to be more PC keybind friendly
@VolkinYT that is indeed true since WW is releasing on all platforms at launch while pgr took a while to get a pc client even in CN. It's also why PGR combat is mainly grounded (not a negative, imo since it's executed rly well) while WW has a seemingly complex implementation of aerial combat as well.
Bro this was soo fun the listen, you guys have a special chemistry.
about the comment you made about ifrit, it comes from the arabic word عفريت or ifreet, it generally means an evil spirit most commonly used to talk about scary demons
fun podcast :3
Amazing podcast! Definitely excited for weekly episodes!!
Also, I'm a mom and I've always been a gamer. Both you and GachaSmack are parents as well so it's great to listen to content creators with a more mature prospective on these topics.
I like people who know stuff just talking about stuff. So yeah, good idea
Amazing content, guys! Love both!
I love this tipe of content, hope that u guys do this way more
Great topics discussed during the podcast!
Want to touch on a topic about time commitment and WW. Personally I think content creators will enjoy WW more just because of the time that can be sunk into the game to learn attack patterns, beating the boss, feeling the rush from it, exploration and more. And unfortunately, once again personally, this might make WW a game that I (full time employee who plays 4 other gachas) will have time to dedicate to only during the weekends. Adding to that, if there is a daily or weekly grind, I hope it is not repetitive and boring like Genshin and if it is not repetitive and boring, hope that also don't take up too much time (>40 mins a day) to complete it. Praying that the WW team can find the sweet spot.
Looking forward to the next podcast!
Little comment to help the algo or something like that. Good video. I'll probably not be in the Wuwa cbt2 so i'm waiting to see your video about it.
cheers🍻
It's awesome.
I don’t often see constructive dialogue on Star Rail between two good TH-camrs.
Waking up and watching this, just made my day😊 💯
nice, more podcast, the more people talk about these issue, the better.
Great podcast!! Smack is my favorite creator in the space and this was my first time hearing you Volkin, I loved hearing your thoughts. I’ll be returning weekly 🫡
Ifrit, also spelled as efreet and afrit (Arabic: ʻIfrīt: عفريت, pl ʻAfārīt: عفاريت), is a powerful type of demon in Islamic mythology. The afarit are often associated with the underworld and also identified with the spirits of the dead, and have been compared to evil geniī loci in European culture.
Bro, I love this podcast meta. Especially with these two.
Waiting for this podcast to blow up and invite other HSR content creators/voice actors and even developers.. looking forward to this weekly podcast
What a great podcast love the synergy between you too
Just got done listening to you guys podcast, and I really enjoy the topics. I’m sub to both of your channels, and been watching both TH-cam content since Honkai star rail came out. I’m looking forward to more podcast with you both, keep up the good work!
Love it, you two rock 🙌🥳
Tectone's is more of a panel style which can get overwhelming but have more viewpoints, while 3 to max 4 is much more directly conversational. Both have their merits and I'll probably tune into both
a lot of great coverage and talking points on this podcast. Hope to see more since I enjoy both of your content.
- For SU, it has become more of a rogue like slogfest of trying to get lucky to get a decent setup. Tectone has mentioned this, but a mode that has just one giant boss you have to beat, no ads, could work for SU. This could be easily covered story wise as we've seen SW hack the SU and we know the Aeons have struck down the player a few times. Maybe later on down the road, Herta has an issue where a former living Aeon tries to break the SU, same as the Propagation aeon. Or maybe have 1 of a set of aeons we can challenge that is impossible to beat, but you're scored on how much dmg you can deal. It's a weird idea, but I'm sure if it's played around more the team can find something that'll work.
- I wholeheartedly agree that modern gamers should definitely have some in person get together gaming with friends, because it just makes gaming 1000x better. I formed a lot of great memories with my siblings, cousins and friends because we'd play games together. I've played a lot of fightings games but the longevity of the game has always felt much longer with friends in person than playing alone.
- On the topic of PGR, I hope Smack checks it out, if not for the gameplay then at least for how Kuro games has set up their gacha system and how the devs treat the players. It's like night and day switching back to a hoyo game. Anniversary they give out a 5 star selector, 100% pity on pulling for new 5 stars, their loadout system is an actual loadout system, and as a newer player there's a lot of stuff to do outside of just their standard end game, and the events can be fun to do. Most importantly they have skins that aren't just "character in sunday suit" but skins that also have cosmetic changes for said characters.
Enjoying this podcast. 2 intelligent people having a back and forth conversation instead of 8-10 people having a really broken up mess. Keep up the good work guys.
I absolutely love this. It’s amazing seeing so many content creators from the same space collabing this often.
Love this, can’t wait for the next episode!
The realest, most mature pod cast I've seen and I'm loving it
The Aetherium Wars being turned into PvP is interesting as hell. Making it like collecting shiny Pokemon would absolutely make me play the game more
It is kinda funny,, that Smack says, "It is so important to hear an other person out, and try to understand where they came from"... but then in MrPokkes drama completly dissmises Dreamys standpoint (didn't even read), and onesidedly roasts them. What can i say - a typical hypocrite.
What I would like to see in Honkai star rail is team battling like in Nikki where you pick your best character and go through a mode like m o c
Yhh you guys definitely need to talk about zzz especially from smack's perspective 😂😂😂
i think we will go deeper on ZZZ once we get some more info from the game
The pokemon battle thing in star rail was so cool i used so many teams testing everything out and they just have yet to do anything with it since.....
Loved the podcast, looking forward to future episodes :)
Love the podcast! It's actually very productive especially involving any game that Hoyo makes. Not to mention with two of the people in the industry that I respect the most.
With that being said, I'm done with Genshin after Wuthering Waves' release. I'd still stick with the archon quests though since the lore-buff in me is stil interested. However, the malder in me is hungry for some action. Good thing PGR is here, but I want more. 😂
i hope you guys didn't leave tectone on purpose, that guy is struggling enough with live as it is
haha na smack said he was busy and i didnt get an invite coz im not a genshin player
He isnt struggling. He's flourishing
@@MrBud85like his hair..
Yah wondering why the yappeters is not in the latest yappfest 😢😂
@@Ef_art he's doing better than you and I.... his sub count is going up. And I'm not even a "fan"
Edit: You two are excellent together! I need you two back every patch 😊
24:00 I feel Volkin on this. However, the way I play Star Rail is to login daily for about a month and then slowly tapir off until its been 3-4 weeks and some drip marketing catches my attention.
I used to be daily for the first 4 months of the game but I was entering that resentment stage from being so overprepared and having to be so disciplined with jade and resources. All the gameplay incentive was exhausted and HSR was just a dissapointing checkmark in my day. That led to me taking more breaks from the game.
I find that SU has been immense in offering me, a casual player, incentive in the form of jade and credits. I get broke pretty fast when I return for the newest banner and all my reserve energy is gone from farming mats. I find this is what creators like you, smack, and oters play daily and are consistently checking off the boxes, doing the new thing, if the incentive is there, and then pre-farming your next pull because content depends on it.
I value what you guys bring for HSR as a whole and I hope sharing my view lets other players feel seen or heard.
In the trailers we’ve seen, sampo has sparkle’s glowing eye effects. I get vibes of game of thrones’ Arya Stark in their masked situation, where she uses different masks to become whoever she wants, with how sparkle changes masks. Idk, y’all might be on to something there lol
welp... NAILED IT
this was great, 2 of my absolute favorite creators doing a weekly talk is 🔥
Looking forward to WW. Hope its a 7/8 in value where Genshin is 1
Amazing podcast. Really enjoyed all the takes.
Oooo, i always wanted a transmog system with Genshin... but you bring a really interesting point. If they would make the Weapon skins rare drops, i be farming soooo much daily. And i dont even really play Genshin anymore.
BRING ON @LegionzGaming91 Aka Bald Man 2.0 aka Tectone's Twin aka the Goat
It’s insane your synergy, keep it up boys. Loved you single. Love you even more as a couple ❤. And by the way., free to play BCM Upper League 100 is insane Volkin. I barely got into the Upper this seasons with like 250bucks invested and mostly was for Julius.
deff agree with most points you guys made.. and honestly after WW comes i am definitely dropping genshin!
Dammit Volk. Those CRT TV Halo gaming sessions in the basement with my mates are coming back to me fast. Those were the days. Say what you want guys. Tell me I'm an outdated boomer. But that was my jam back then. That was peak gaming. And it hurts to think about what happened to one of my favorite gaming franchises. But it is what it is.
dude im teeing it up with my mates now
@@VolkinYT Sounds like a great time. Enjoy man.
i for 1 am the guy who logs in for 10-15 min auto clearing my dailies , aka spending my energy and logging back off. till the weekend hits and i can enjoy some of the story/side quests and clear moc/purefiction, before the week resets. i barely dabbed into the golden gears and swarm disaster so far.
OGG podcast sounds good. Original Gacha Gamer Podcast.
as in you talk about gacha, but also old school games xD
Subbed, please kept it between you two. Hate it when podcasts get to like 8 people. People barely get to speak
I really like this approach of podcast, something a little more detailed about the topics!
Not something that really matters, but I would like to share my view about the topics as well, feel free to ignore all of this.
- 2.0 Thoughts: I feel the hype really is over the top, but I am hyped more because it is a new region and with new lore too but I do agree that if you take that away, the 2.0 dont feel that much different from a standart patch.
I am hyped too because of all the videos and teasers we are getting, like the interview we got today and the posts in hoyolab, those type of things really appeal to me.
- Genshin Drama vs Star Rail: For me the difference is not about the quantity of pulls, but the context of them. As Genshin explicit said, those wishes were the representation of the travelers's support for 3 years and the HSR one's had the connotation of being present of excitement for the upcoming update.
It is like getting a present for Xmas and the other simply cuz they felt happy, the later feels more personal and not an obligation.
24:00 - I do agree with your perspective about losing your build to the RNG but I view as a way to gauge new mechanics for future kits, without compromise nor expose much of future line ups. Ruan Mei, Black Swan and Sparkle seems to have some inspiration with some of the blessings, could be a delusion of my part tho.
However it really is too damn long lol
37:00 YES, I really loved the ZZZ models because they didn't feel bounded to pre-made models. I do hope we get more different types of characters, seeing ZZZ designs first I was expecting something like that with HSR, given the interstellar setting and all.
About Wuthering Waves, I agree 100% with you guys!
thanks, appreciate the input, everyone will have different perspectives and i love seeing other ppls perspective 👍
Great duo for the valuable podcast commentary, looking forward to more
I do make content some times but I am a car salesman who’s 26 and play hsr while waiting for customers at work haha.
pretty sick podcast duo here, more like this please
The talk about the jacket thing is so relatable it hurts.
Great podcast great synergy. This exactly what i like 2 grown ass motherfuckers as myself (kids too) talking about some gacha games. Im old af so its a breath of fresh air when the drama stays out the door..gotta deal with that shit at work anyways
I agree with your take on 2.0, it feels like a standard patch aside from the new story and planet obviously. I personally get more hyped for patches that expand upon the Simulated Universe or end game modes such as MoC and now Pure Fiction
I view star rail as a side game right now..emphasis on “right now”.. HSR is probably the only gacha game story which I actually pay attention to, and whenever a new story quest comes out, I play the shit out of it - i would consider it a “main game” whenever that happens…but after that, I log in, do my dailies, finish my stamina… look at how depressing my gear rolls are.. and that’s it for the day barely even 10 mins honestly.
That’s how all gacha games ends up being, it’s why I never really considered having a “main” gacha game. To me, JRPGs are still my main source of gaming interest.
haha you got me with the depressing gear rolls😂
we all do it
2 gentlegachaaddict nahh they are lit dude 😂😂
New to the game and love the podcast. I hope Sam is playable.
Honestly I think 2.0 is too early for Himeko to kick the bucket, it feels like there's still stuff to learn about this Himeko, I also think it hits more when you kill off a character that has made a big impact on the story.
yeah earliest would be 2.3 if they do decide to kill her off. they need to develop her character first
Yeah, I agree.
People forget that HSR is another game, and not HI. If you look into the game, Himeko didnt appear that much to make her death meaningful.
in 41:30 ifrit or afreet in arabic is the word that usually refers to evil jinn or some sort of ghost or spirits or a powerful demon in islamic and arabic culture
New player experience is not that great though, sure you have a lot of content to do but if you pull newer character you will have tougher time to collect materials for ascension (Especially if you have Inazuma character because you need to do 2 whole regions to unlock Inazuma) also even though you have a lot of content explorations primogems are just not that great. Sure you can collect thousand of them as a new player but it will take hours and hours to get even few wishes because most of them are 2-5 primogems and one island of Inazuma gives you ONLY TEAPOT SCHEMATIC WITHOUT PRIMOGEMS it's a joke
interesting. maybe one day i will have to do a genshin playthrough to see how i find it
@@VolkinYTnah nah 💀💀 ain't no way
@@VolkinYT I think the best time to start in a filler patch like 4.5 so it's easy to catch up with some story and exploration, because 4.6 will be more "heavy" with a new area , interlude chapter , and long awaited character (Arlecchino), etc.
my top 2 favorite honkai/gacha content creators together again lets goooo
I watch a Pokémon channel named dads being dudes and honestly this podcast was like watching 2 dads being dudes. Keep up the great work
Great first episode, fantastically accurate takes on Genshin and why 2.0 HSR is getting so much hype from Gachasmack, my opinion of him definitely improved from this (I liked his build videos but felt he was a little too argumentative). I'm glad this wasn't about that HSR CC drama I keep hearing about nonstop but do not have a single fuck to give about.
Great podcast!!
Ill be a guest at some point. I believe. Manifestation check
dude i just checked your channel. no way i can bring someone with that much hair on, would make me feel too insecure about my receeding hairline 😂 Keep up the grind mate 👊
feel free to DM me on discord if u wanna chat about content and stuff
I like how this podcast is maturity and very open to discuss things on a cool level.. also they arent selling sex like tectone is a plus too 😂
I started playing Genshin as my first Gacha 3 years ago, Unfortunately the one i spent money on. For years im like it will get better but i had complaints the first 6 months and none of them have ever been addressed. When you have company that doesn't communicate with the community, give rewards that are truly awful for the amount that the company has benefited from. They make basic changes every 6 months and the character rotation gives people something to do or be happy about. But we as a community failed to hold the company accountable. So they just thought meh who cares they will pay us money anyway.
two of the most articulate men in the space. great video!
My longest Shiny Hunt was for 18hrs for a Ponyta it still stands proud as a rapidash on that account.
Looking forward to more future podcast episode ❤
I like OG podcast. The Ol’ Gacha Gamer podcost
Ifrits are a type of djiin from mythology generaly described as surrounded by or composed of smoke.
35:59 this part was so gold with the synergy and chemistry
Love how my man smack just casually gets up during the video lol RL adulting shit happens and got to multitask
42:54 I was so hyped for him but didn't even notice he was a 4 star. dammm it...
Always a blast to hear smack spitting, cook more
The main fun that i get from HSR is team building, the gameplay itself is kinda shallow for me. That is why i like MoC more than the roguelike mode. MoC is more a puzzle that you solve by building a team, while the roguelike is just grinding for a run and because i dont really enjoy the gameplay it gets boring really fast. It would be nice if i could change my team more freely during a run so i can try to adapte to a run, like being able to change your whole team at anytime but you only could do it 2 times per run or so.