Some years ago I worked for KMW in Kassel (Germany) in a project where we documented all aspects of the PzH2000. I was able to meet the people who made the hard and software for everything in the PzH except driving. I appreciate every hour they have worked with me.
@@user-lh1uu7cs9u Well you can transport it quite easy by train or truck, but you can not make it fit into a plane. It uses NATO standard ammo so it should be no problem to supply enough ordonance. BUT: it need a Command and Control Center to get its Fire Commands or you need to know how to enter da Fire Command localy. The Software is German and most Names and Commands are German. So i see no problem in mooving and supporting, but a problem in using this thing
@@markusfischhaber8178 Well I'm startled that the software is not using standard localization to the well known languages (NATO languages) or that it can't be switched somewhere in setup. Such things (gettext strings config files) are well known even for C/C++ which I would expect the software is written in. Netheerland soldiers are using German UI ? 😀 Relying on Command center is IMO illusive in real war conflicts where the connection may fail from various reasons (heavy bombardment of infrastructure or intensive jamming). The crew should be able to work independently... As I know, In Ukraine the army units are decentralized to a certain level which is an advantage to the Russian army which works on direct orders (therefore you can paralyze it by killing the top commanders etc.).
@@vencdee well, this is where you'll need training. The Indonesian submariner even partly use german order in their U-209, because the German trained them. well used to anyway.
@Advocatus Diaboli Nether in their A400 M nor in their C-160.. So Katar is the country how owns PzH2000 and C17 to move them around in their own planes.
I clicked dislike and I don't have, or want, or need, an auto loader. Read my other comment on this video to find out what I think of this shit. Or not, I don't care. I care about me, I care about you, I care about what we as a species universally want ... we want to be happy, feel loved and heard. We like to feel free. We do not want to be killed from a distance by whomever pays most.
It also comes with GPS, all kinds of automated calculations and communications. You need the target position and the computer determines the direction, elevation, type of shell, amount of powder... when the first shell hits the ground the system detects how much it is off and autocorrects within seconds for the next shot. Bulls eye.
I know air superiority is their ultimate doctrine, but I am a bit surprised the DOD took until very recently to come up with an actual replacement for the M107 (which is funny enough a heavily modified M107 with a new gun yet for some reason still no autoloader)
Seven of these self-propelled howitzers are on their way to Ukraine. 18 Ukrainian teams are currently being trained in Germany. With a maximum of 10 rounds per minute you can imagine what is going on at the end of a proketil's trajectory. Before the survivors on the Russian side know where the rain of steel came from, the howitzers have already moved on again. I hope our government releases many more of these highly useful PzH 2000s. Ukraine should get everything it needs to kick ass the Russian orcs!
Wir sollten alle unseren schicken, wir brauchen sie aktuell nicht und die Industrie kann sie rasch nachbauen...150 von denen werden den Krieg extrem beeinflussen..
They'll probably use them in the western part of Ukraine because the donbass region is almost lost . No point of sending them there to get destroyed quickly.
It is amazing to see the autoloading system in action. I was a redleg in 1994 and attended the fire support conference at Ft. Sill, OK. It was there I saw the presentation on the Crusader project. It would have become America's first automated howitzer. Millons over budget and it was cancelled.
@@kniLchMilch They're evil people, so do you agree that we SHOULD NOT PUNISH the rapist, murderers, serial killers, corrupt politicians and drug lords?
@@hammerscharlie1935 good questions. Imho its smarter to prevent not to punish. The world are not realy a bretter place when you kill people for revenge. Bad people doing bad things no matter a death penalty exists. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What are the rods on the side of the howitzer, does anyone know? For example, at 5:00. These things are on virtually all field artillery, from towed to self-propelled.
Saw all of that IRL, standed right next to it when shooting at close range (4km away), and we did some other funny things together that we agreed to keep for ourselves or some would get anger from above haha ^^ I did that during Exercise Feldberg in October 2019 with the 295. ArtBat, I m from the 1er RI. It was fun :)
Все таки это заряд значит. И да то что гильз нет удивило. А заряды отличаются интересно у них. Или для каждого заряда разные мешки(но это сложно для снабжения)...
I just watched several PZH2000 videos and it is very strange, how easy handle the crew the almost 50kg projectiles. Like a 20kg one only. 46-49kg, half meter long, 155mm diameter cylinder is not an easy handling thing what you could drop into the conveyor with straight back. But there is no suffering or struggling at all... strange.
I used to serve on an M109, also a 155 mm gun, back when NL still called up conscripts. I don't know if the situation with the PZH2000 is comparable, but this is what I remember. 1) Usually the 'weaker' men were called up to be arty, i.e. fat guys, thin guys, short guys and so on. 2) After a few weeks, a lot of the guys in the crews in my battery had doctors' notes saying they weren't allowed to lift anything heave (i.e. shells). We made do with whomever did not have or did not fake a bad back. 3) Although the shells were heavy (45kg approximately), they were compact and relatively grippy, which made them easy to handle. Also, 4) rumour had it that the Germans used strong men as loaders. The reason was that they hydraulic loading system was fairly slow, whereas with manual loading you could get firing rates of, I think, 6 shots a minute.
I've seen other videos where they clean the breach with a brush prior to loading the next round (presumably to remove any still burning propellant?), why is that not needed with this system?
I'm sure it depends on the breach of the gun, or something, like how Flak 88 was used, it kept going, then afterwards cleaned, like every other gun, but flak is all I know with a short reload, and same with artillery, some needed to be cleaned, and others don't like the pzh2k
@Gary Edwards This is something that has to be done on the M109 A6/7 Paladin, but not on the PzH 2000. The PzH 2000 is far superior to the M109A7. It is joke that the US Army is still using such a primitive artillery system. Compare this video of M109 A7: th-cam.com/video/MxmApO7kgqk/w-d-xo.html To this video of the PzH 2000: th-cam.com/video/wlKlW1-7c5A/w-d-xo.html
@@markschoning5581 why need a better one when you don't need a better one? The usa so called 1000 mile cannon is coming out sooo yea if it's a success the 2000 and the palindin would be irrelevant
Nope, the MSTA-S has a semi-automatic loader. You still have to place each individual shell and case to the loader and activate the rammer each time to load, a fully automatic loader would take the shells and cases from the storage automatically. The Koalitsiya-SV does that, however, and ,as you said, it also has the whole loading mechanism and ammo storage separate from the crew.
@@renzesinia1234 Artillery is a bigger size of a gun, I'm guessing it's a gun larger than 150mm, like 203mm, and in this vid, it's a 155mm gun. In order to fire the shells, or rounds, anything you want to call it, the loader first load a shell into the gun breech, then proceed to load some cordite or "bags" in the color of either green, red, or white, and then close the breech, before firing the gun. Now the topic here are the bags. The purpose of loading the bags are to increase the fire range of the artillery gun, which means that the bags provides more blast power in the gun breech, behind the shell, which then sends higher kinetic energy to the shell, which then allows the shell to travels to a longer distance. The bags are used in the artillery guns because the shells are heavy, and that means that a single propellant in the shell casing isn't enough to provide a longer-distance fire support for the bigger shells. That's why the artillery loader need to load some variable charges, aka separated charges, bags, into the breech as well. For the smaller guns under the diameter of 155mm, the shells are using fixed propellant cartridge in the shell casing, since the fire range can be adjusted by the elevation of the gun.
@@Kai-ib4cn Not completely true. Artillery has nothing to do with the size of the gun but the method of fire. Tanks engage a target they can see directly and artillery shoots further to a target they cannot see but get coordinates to(at least nowadays, not talking about 400 years ago) Bags do not provide more propellant for the shell, the shell itself has absolutely no propellant whatsoever, so the bags are the propellant. You do have a version called "base bleed"in which a small rocket like flame is fired behind the shell, but that is not for propellant but to cancell the air suction effect behind the shell. But what do i know, i only worked with the thing for 8 years :)
Impressive howitzer, maybe No.1 in the world. But too expensive for many less rich countries. Korean K-9 howitzer is No.2, but way affordable and as effective for most tasks. It has autoloader too.
If you have a well trained crew it is possible to fire 5 grenades that hit the target at the same time. All you have to do is change the angle of fire and the number of propellant charges after each shot.
That's the propellant, the gunpowder equivalent to howitzers. It determines how far the 155mm round goes. The more propellant the farther the range, the fewer the propellant the lesser the range of the projectile.
That’s not what defines the difference between cannon and howitzer at all. Cannon is lower angle of descent (>45 deg) and howitzer is high angle of descent (>45 deg). For instance, a M101A1 fires a fully assembled round like a rifle cartridge but it is still defined as a howitzer.
Мой дядя сейчас живёт в Германии и служит в армии на этом чуде а в 1999 служил в российской армии и воевал в Чечне на российской мста-с и говорит российская лучше
The loader manipulates every thing with the right hand. This way his hand ist not in the danger zone when he closes the breach and pushes the hot button.
At the time they hadn't designed modular second stage ammunition like today. So the first stage (HE round) could be easily loaded with a comparable simple autoloader, but the second stage (propellant) couldn't be easily loaded with an autoloader. More modern systems from German manufacturers already solved this problem and have developed and automatic artillerysystem with 30 first stage round and I believe, 60 propellant charges. The whole module (Gun plus loader) can easily be put on any chassis and only needs at least 2 people to operate.
You have the Donar Howitser for example that autoloads all, the downside of that is that you cannot change propellant charge on the spot and if something goes wrong the whole thing is out of commision. In this case if anything malfunctions you have humans that can manually take over.
At least five different detonators, several different shells, variable amount of powder ... so that is difficult. And somebody needs to replenish the magazine all the time.
@@adamabele785 That human, who bets against loosing his hand whenever he feeds the cannon with the small charge, certainly isn't refilling the magazine though. I also assume, that refilling in generall is done between the artillery strikes - although it would be awesome to have fully automated live fire refill using an armored tender... 😛
@@EvaLieblich It seems that the military is the only place left where such working conditions are legally accepted. Are there statistics about peacetime casualties?
Exponentially better mission kill rate than the Germans old flack 88. Men and their magnificent howitzer. The Porsche of field infantry weapons iconic for their cyclical reload rate and distant delivered punch. It's great fun if you're behind one, but kiss your ass goodbye if you're on the receiving end.
@@adamabele785, Thank you for that corrected technical info. I just Recklessly assumed 88 had been utilized for Target types other than Ariel flack. So Howitzers Could be re-engineered to do same or similar. It's obvious I need to expand my comprehension of Howitzer other than cocktail shot containing Sambuca & Rum.
Question, why does artillery not use cartridges like small arms and Tank Guns? Also, can SPGs be used in a direct fire role? I know their armor is thin and not intended for frontline combat but I am wondering if they can be used that way should the need arise.
Artillery uses 'fixed' or 'semi-fixed' ammunition for 105mm and smaller. The 155 is too large to have fixed ammo. Also, having the powder separate from the warhead allows them to vary the range they are firing at. They are firing the smallest powder charge these things can use - for short range. The 105 has up to six powder bags inside the semi-fixed ammo which is adjusted when the fire mission is called down to the guns.
direct fire exercise th-cam.com/video/lBQe7Ahod34/w-d-xo.html , sorry its in german, but jeah..its about shooting a bad guy directly if he gets to close.
How come a lot of SPGs have a bipod or Monopod that holds the barrel? I assume it is to relieve pressure or stress on the motors or whatever aims the gun whenever you not shooting.
pretty much that, even some tanks have those, either on the back (turret turned backwards, gun locked , for transportation) or instead under the turret roof to lock the gun.
Unlike a tank this is highly precise instrument, a millimeter off here makes lots of meters on the target. Think danger close setting, you do not want to be off.
We are SO WAITING for this "things" here in Ukraine! M777 is already here and help us kill rushists, but their range is twice shorter than PzH2000 range.
The way how it manages its barrel steady right after firing is so impressive. It might be a key part of its high firing rate. A peace of art.
In Germany we don't call it 'a piece of art', we call it "Taktzeitoptimierung" and I think that is beautiful.
Not a piece of art... german engineering :D but, well i think it is simular ;p
Some years ago I worked for KMW in Kassel (Germany) in a project where we documented all aspects of the PzH2000. I was able to meet the people who made the hard and software for everything in the PzH except driving. I appreciate every hour they have worked with me.
What is your opinion of the possibility of sending this to Ukraine?
@@user-lh1uu7cs9u Well you can transport it quite easy by train or truck, but you can not make it fit into a plane. It uses NATO standard ammo so it should be no problem to supply enough ordonance. BUT: it need a Command and Control Center to get its Fire Commands or you need to know how to enter da Fire Command localy. The Software is German and most Names and Commands are German. So i see no problem in mooving and supporting, but a problem in using this thing
@@markusfischhaber8178 Well I'm startled that the software is not using standard localization to the well known languages (NATO languages) or that it can't be switched somewhere in setup. Such things (gettext strings config files) are well known even for C/C++ which I would expect the software is written in. Netheerland soldiers are using German UI ? 😀
Relying on Command center is IMO illusive in real war conflicts where the connection may fail from various reasons (heavy bombardment of infrastructure or intensive jamming). The crew should be able to work independently... As I know, In Ukraine the army units are decentralized to a certain level which is an advantage to the Russian army which works on direct orders (therefore you can paralyze it by killing the top commanders etc.).
@@vencdee hahahaha IT problems
@@vencdee well, this is where you'll need training. The Indonesian submariner even partly use german order in their U-209, because the German trained them. well used to anyway.
Can we talk about how beautiful this autoloader is?
I agree. Them 155’s are pretty hefty lol
Stiffy
Reminds me of a Ferdinand
gun loader is nice but storage access is danger and need a lots of muscle
We can talk how bad the autoloader and the magazine was designed...
The rate of fire is seriously impressive
I think it might be a sorta autoloader
Agreed
Imagine a round land every three seconds in kill zone
They can make them all hit the target at the same time. Pretty impressive
TheNuclearWarhead • 54 years ago ok
This video made my day. It is exactly what I imagined but it gave me more, much more. The engineering behind these machines are on another level.
German science is best in ze world!
I agreed
absolutely mind-boggling....so many different branches of engineering and science all combined into a powerful machine and a weapon
That rate of fire is honestly kind of terrifying
3 second reload on a 155mm cannon lol
bro this is brokenly overpowered, even just the rammer that pushes the rounds into the breech is faster than anything I’ve ever seen
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These 105 or what ?
Ferdinand: I'm so proud of u son
It looks a bit more like the Conqueror gun carriage if you know what it is :)
* Breaks down even more *
It looks a hybrid of a Hummel and an Waffentragger E-100
MAUS
And nashorn is the Mom
The 235 dislikes are from people who didn't have an auto loader.
Muricans then.
Or from people who want to deploy that system and find, that we do not have planes big enough..
@Advocatus Diaboli Nether in their A400 M nor in their C-160.. So Katar is the country how owns PzH2000 and C17 to move them around in their own planes.
I clicked dislike and I don't have, or want, or need, an auto loader. Read my other comment on this video to find out what I think of this shit. Or not, I don't care. I care about me, I care about you, I care about what we as a species universally want ... we want to be happy, feel loved and heard. We like to feel free. We do not want to be killed from a distance by whomever pays most.
@the taker Oh well, I don't know about destiny ... I won't play along, that I know.
I love watching this system operate, seems a better thought out system than the Paladin
It was developed about 35 years later, so it's not much of a surprise.
Absolutley its just more up to date. Greets from bavaria.
It also comes with GPS, all kinds of automated calculations and communications. You need the target position and the computer determines the direction, elevation, type of shell, amount of powder... when the first shell hits the ground the system detects how much it is off and autocorrects within seconds for the next shot. Bulls eye.
Compared to this, Paladín reloads like Joe Biden himself is loading the gun 😂
I know air superiority is their ultimate doctrine, but I am a bit surprised the DOD took until very recently to come up with an actual replacement for the M107 (which is funny enough a heavily modified M107 with a new gun yet for some reason still no autoloader)
German engineering and quality 😊👍
This vid shows the Dutch army using them
@@nielsrooiman772 literally noone asked
Alejandro r/ woooooosh
@@nielsrooiman772 whats the joke ??
Alejandro the Dutch army doesn’t own any tanks or howitzers
I mean sure the auto loader is nice, but have you seen the special ejection seats in the T72 b3?
😂😂😂😂😂
Autoloader in t72 isnt that low in the vehicle, no? Also Artillery is much less likely to be shot at soo
Do you mean Soviet-made tanks that are both used by the Ukraine and Russia right now?
@@i_cri_evertim Does it say “Made in Germany” on it?
This must be the best autoloader sistem. Pure perfection.
Wow the graphics are so good!
Because *INSERT I9 core* .bruh
Because from real camera. Lol.
I had the opportunity to drive the British AS90 across Salisbury Plain. These big SPGs really are amazing vehicles.
Nashorn : I , am your father
_Nashorn_ is a Tank Destroyer. So rather than him, how about _Wespe,_ _Grille,_ or _Hummel?_
No offense, sorry. Besides, i got your joke ;)
@@vwerlg9954 r/ihavereddit
HoriHero HH then don’t whoooosh you normie
@@vwerlg9954 r/wooshwithtwoos r/iamfunny
I'm deleting my comment cuz it getting cringe
최고네요 !!!! 사격시 차체가 움직이지 않네요!!
최고^^
That's fast! Great video of inside and out. Thanks.
Thanks, mate! Stay tuned, more cool videos coming soon👍
0:01 "Feed me Senpai"
lol
Say AAH for the meat.....
I was looking for something like this but this is even better
I forgot how much fun driving a tracked vehicle is,not to mention live 🔥 fire
Seven of these self-propelled howitzers are on their way to Ukraine. 18 Ukrainian teams are currently being trained in Germany. With a maximum of 10 rounds per minute you can imagine what is going on at the end of a proketil's trajectory. Before the survivors on the Russian side know where the rain of steel came from, the howitzers have already moved on again. I hope our government releases many more of these highly useful PzH 2000s. Ukraine should get everything it needs to kick ass the Russian orcs!
Wir sollten alle unseren schicken, wir brauchen sie aktuell nicht und die Industrie kann sie rasch nachbauen...150 von denen werden den Krieg extrem beeinflussen..
А мы вашу вундервафлю малкой и раскатаем . Такие наивные вы что диву даёшся 😏 Да и как трафей в том числе для изучения . Можете присылать .
They'll probably use them in the western part of Ukraine because the donbass region is almost lost . No point of sending them there to get destroyed quickly.
@@artandarchitecture6399 look at non bias source on whats happening on the ground in Ukraine . Thats all gota say .
@@artandarchitecture6399 У нас есть поговорка поживём увидим .))) Мы уже привыкли к разным бедам и испытаниям. И эту неприятность мы переживём )))
6 seconds of reloading. So satisfying!
It is amazing to see the autoloading system in action. I was a redleg in 1994 and attended the fire support conference at Ft. Sill, OK. It was there I saw the presentation on the Crusader project. It would have become America's first automated howitzer. Millons over budget and it was cancelled.
What was automated about it compared to this?
@@grouchosaysprobably it could load the little baby primers automatically 💀💀👀👀☕️☕️☕️
@Gaijin this is clearly not 10 seconds
If hearing that BFG firing off in person doesn't wake you up, I don't know what will.
Looks like the setting of the firing range was in the Eastern Front. Lol
The exercise was held in the east of Germany and Poland so, yes.
Engineering and science are awesome.
Totaly agree, but i'm every time sad, that we used this creativity and inteligence power to kill people :(
@@kniLchMilch They're evil people, so do you agree that we SHOULD NOT PUNISH the rapist, murderers, serial killers, corrupt politicians and drug lords?
@@hammerscharlie1935 good questions. Imho its smarter to prevent not to punish. The world are not realy a bretter place when you kill people for revenge. Bad people doing bad things no matter a death penalty exists. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@kniLchMilch I agree with you, but if they already committed horrible crimes like I mentioned above then they should be punished to death.
What are the rods on the side of the howitzer, does anyone know? For example, at 5:00.
These things are on virtually all field artillery, from towed to self-propelled.
I think they are used to mark the working area around the howitzer but dont quote me on that
isn't it the infra red friend identification panel?
those poles are for camonets, you can put a "chute" on top of it and hang camonets around the vehicle
Невероятно точная работа механизмов.Немцы всегда умели делать вещи
Danke für die tollen Aufnahmen!!!!
I only hear the slide whistle sound when the rack for the shell comes out
put a razorblade between the shell and the fuze: they will hear the shell incoming🤪
this is some complicated automated tank shit.
no shit this was my fav tank in one of my childhood war games its so cool inside
In witch game?
Is it general zero hour Holland?
awesome video
Soon in a Ukrainian theater near you
Lmao!!!
3:28 what is guy adding?
I wonder too...
The Treibladung/Treibladungsbeutel?
propellant/Propellant charge bag or what you mean?
@@Janoip what does it do?
Saw all of that IRL, standed right next to it when shooting at close range (4km away), and we did some other funny things together that we agreed to keep for ourselves or some would get anger from above haha ^^
I did that during Exercise Feldberg in October 2019 with the 295. ArtBat, I m from the 1er RI. It was fun :)
Sup bro
@@zucktheskeleton9731 Noice and ya?
I have always been curious as to where is the ammunition stored? And can the turret turn like in tanks?
Greetings from 4th battery. Was MARS gunner 2016 feldberg
Did you shoot animals or something lol
0:18 I'm guessing that slide stops when it detects a knee?
Maus : proud of you son
But they are different breed
This is artillery though
# savethemaus
You mean Ferdinand
how do you know it’s a he or a she??
did you check?
The firing sound is like muffled/silenced. I expect like a loud boom. How did they do it? Also no muzzle flash, which is amazing.
weak propellant charge.
Clearly the microphone is muffled to a degree. You can hear artillery at least in 20km distance. All of the guys wear ear protection.
This rate of fire, OMG...
That is so freaking cool.
Auto loader system is the bomb. Super fast volley of rounds down range.
Вышибной заряд очень интересный. Похоже он полностью сгорает при выстреле. Очень хорошая идея для повышения скорострельности и экономия на гильзах👍
Но какой то он маленький слишком
@@джекичан-х7ж а то, что он должен зажигаться от электрозапала обязательно, и то , что его рукой запихивают, тебя не смутило?
@@namefamily2748 нет)
Все таки это заряд значит. И да то что гильз нет удивило. А заряды отличаются интересно у них. Или для каждого заряда разные мешки(но это сложно для снабжения)...
Ну какие гильзы на 155 мм.
why it is life fire when they actually fire death ?
I just watched several PZH2000 videos and it is very strange, how easy handle the crew the almost 50kg projectiles. Like a 20kg one only. 46-49kg, half meter long, 155mm diameter cylinder is not an easy handling thing what you could drop into the conveyor with straight back. But there is no suffering or struggling at all... strange.
well there's soldiers trained to their best
I used to serve on an M109, also a 155 mm gun, back when NL still called up conscripts. I don't know if the situation with the PZH2000 is comparable, but this is what I remember. 1) Usually the 'weaker' men were called up to be arty, i.e. fat guys, thin guys, short guys and so on. 2) After a few weeks, a lot of the guys in the crews in my battery had doctors' notes saying they weren't allowed to lift anything heave (i.e. shells). We made do with whomever did not have or did not fake a bad back. 3) Although the shells were heavy (45kg approximately), they were compact and relatively grippy, which made them easy to handle. Also, 4) rumour had it that the Germans used strong men as loaders. The reason was that they hydraulic loading system was fairly slow, whereas with manual loading you could get firing rates of, I think, 6 shots a minute.
The Dutch are strong😜
autoload is fine
manual load can separate the warhead from the propellant
These Dutch guys always clean up their plates and go to bed early. That's why they can effortlessly move these heavy shells.
What is that guy putting in the barrel behind the shell?
A modular propellant charge
its a shells diaper.
Imagine having only ten of those in a siege. Total annihilation.
The auto loader really just yeets the shell into the breech
I've seen other videos where they clean the breach with a brush prior to loading the next round (presumably to remove any still burning propellant?), why is that not needed with this system?
I'm sure it depends on the breach of the gun, or something, like how Flak 88 was used, it kept going, then afterwards cleaned, like every other gun, but flak is all I know with a short reload, and same with artillery, some needed to be cleaned, and others don't like the pzh2k
To my knowledge there is compressed Air beiing Put through the Barrel ventilating it.
@Gary Edwards
This is something that has to be done on the M109 A6/7 Paladin, but not on the PzH 2000. The PzH 2000 is far superior to the M109A7. It is joke that the US Army is still using such a primitive artillery system. Compare this video of M109 A7: th-cam.com/video/MxmApO7kgqk/w-d-xo.html
To this video of the PzH 2000: th-cam.com/video/wlKlW1-7c5A/w-d-xo.html
@@markschoning5581 why need a better one when you don't need a better one? The usa so called 1000 mile cannon is coming out sooo yea if it's a success the 2000 and the palindin would be irrelevant
That`s some very nice Footage !
Эти прекрасные орудия уже жгут рашистов на земле Украины. Спасибо за помощь всех неравнодушных к судьбе украинского народа
да ладно : ) - ни немцы ни голландцы ещё ничего вам не привезли
@@coyoteranger We are training your soldiers in Germany right now to use this weapon system
Ce drac de motor are ???
perfect German engineering 👍🇩🇪😀
А що замість порохового заряду? Щось дуже маленьке закидали після снаряду.
It’s semi automatic, not a full one. The full one has Msta S and Coallicia SV, i Hope I wrote it right , and SV has unmanned turret
Nope, the MSTA-S has a semi-automatic loader. You still have to place each individual shell and case to the loader and activate the rammer each time to load, a fully automatic loader would take the shells and cases from the storage automatically. The Koalitsiya-SV does that, however, and ,as you said, it also has the whole loading mechanism and ammo storage separate from the crew.
What is the red thing that the loader put in the barrel at 3:20 ?
Gun powder
propellant, I believe, since those shells wouldn't be having enough blast power to reach longer distances without the use of propellants.
@@Kai-ib4cn That is not how it works, this is not a tank but artillery.
The gunpowder is the only propellant. the other is the grenade.
@@renzesinia1234 Artillery is a bigger size of a gun, I'm guessing it's a gun larger than 150mm, like 203mm, and in this vid, it's a 155mm gun. In order to fire the shells, or rounds, anything you want to call it, the loader first load a shell into the gun breech, then proceed to load some cordite or "bags" in the color of either green, red, or white, and then close the breech, before firing the gun. Now the topic here are the bags. The purpose of loading the bags are to increase the fire range of the artillery gun, which means that the bags provides more blast power in the gun breech, behind the shell, which then sends higher kinetic energy to the shell, which then allows the shell to travels to a longer distance. The bags are used in the artillery guns because the shells are heavy, and that means that a single propellant in the shell casing isn't enough to provide a longer-distance fire support for the bigger shells. That's why the artillery loader need to load some variable charges, aka separated charges, bags, into the breech as well. For the smaller guns under the diameter of 155mm, the shells are using fixed propellant cartridge in the shell casing, since the fire range can be adjusted by the elevation of the gun.
@@Kai-ib4cn Not completely true.
Artillery has nothing to do with the size of the gun but the method of fire. Tanks engage a target they can see directly and artillery shoots further to a target they cannot see but get coordinates to(at least nowadays, not talking about 400 years ago) Bags do not provide more propellant for the shell, the shell itself has absolutely no propellant whatsoever, so the bags are the propellant. You do have a version called "base bleed"in which a small rocket like flame is fired behind the shell, but that is not for propellant but to cancell the air suction effect behind the shell. But what do i know, i only worked with the thing for 8 years :)
Impressive howitzer, maybe No.1 in the world. But too expensive for many less rich countries. Korean K-9 howitzer is No.2, but way affordable and as effective for most tasks. It has autoloader too.
Some people will always buy the cheaper option, even if they fight for their lives in a war, damn idiots! 😂
That is one impressive monster!
That’s a fast reload!
When they were loading it earlier it was filling up a "magazine", and you can see later in the video it feeds from that mag via the robotic arms
What is the red cap or thing the tank loader put inside the breach?
The explosive charge.
Mainly white.
Damn that autoloader is the best. Wow.
So smooth sound, something you find automation in industry.
The first 3 go out in no time, impressive.
Yes please.
More of them in Ukraine.
Thanks.. I would also like to see who gets the location info, etc.
K9보다 더 좋네요... 우선 조용합니다. 그리고 장비가 잘 정리되어있네요 덜렁거림없이 견고한느낌.. 발포시 반동이 K9보다 작네요.. 포신의 흔들림도 거의 없네요.. 굿입니다. 굿
가성비로만따지면 k9이 월등히좋음
@@user-bori2350 Yeah but Germany is a rich country with high-tech weaponry so we can afford that.
PtH 2000 Howitzer. Also know as Ferdinand P. It looks sooooo similar *-*
What a fast reload compare to the u.s howitzers.
Because it's an autoloader
When you compare this to M109 paladin you get a pretty good idea about why armored vehicles desing is an interesting topic to research
07.05.2022 They will be tested in Ukraine soon.
Ukrainian soldiers get their training now.
If you have a well trained crew it is possible to fire 5 grenades that hit the target at the same time. All you have to do is change the angle of fire and the number of propellant charges after each shot.
For "short" ranges you only need to adjust the launch angle.
I thought they had to use those giant cannon silencers in Germany. 😉
It is a Dutch version :O
Its a german artillery in Dutch hands. Feel like whole Europe use German tanks and artillery.
What is the white fabric looking object that the soldier manually inserted into the cannon?
That's The propellant/charge, that's why it's called a Howitzer. A cannon fires a fully assembled shell, like a bullet.
That's the propellant, the gunpowder equivalent to howitzers. It determines how far the 155mm round goes. The more propellant the farther the range, the fewer the propellant the lesser the range of the projectile.
That’s not what defines the difference between cannon and howitzer at all. Cannon is lower angle of descent (>45 deg) and howitzer is high angle of descent (>45 deg). For instance, a M101A1 fires a fully assembled round like a rifle cartridge but it is still defined as a howitzer.
No.1 SPG Pzh.2000
Germany's technology is world best
of course
SEKAI ICHI
Могу поспорить…
The Best!
Отличная техника,давайте быстрее отправляйте в Украину.
Уже идёт
@@VL-ie2qr Калибр уже летит
Ok, 155 mm. But why are the propellant bags so small. Are they shooting short.
Good video.
They can shoot ca 40 km
Probably. And the recoil is also surprisingly short.
Depending on ammunition type and weather conditions this thing can shoot between 25-60 km
Generally if they are in Europe, they have to shoot short.
You can aim with having only 1 type of bag. just adjust elevation.
For practicing these loads are cheaper and good enough.
Хорошая слаженность. Гильз нет - нет проблем.
Это наверное учебный заряд?
@@YYX-u7g боевой, система заряжания такая
@@emillio_gonzales угу, минимальный. Как только понадобится заряжать картузы побольше - скорострельность упадёт
So can they still manually load shells if they were hit and the auto loading stopped working?
If u get hit as an SPG then you have already lost the battle.
yes they can, the operators of the vehicle are fully trained how to handle situations when the autoloading system fails.
It is also possible to aim manually. That is why the system needs more training than older systems.
Воу круто все работает как часы ) привет из России
Не то что на расии скажи... Одни Анало-говнеты)
That autoloader is awesome
Panzerhaubitze 2000
German Quality🇩🇪💪👍
Over rated.
With the old French AU-F1 you don't need to load the propellant charge manually...
@@JoJo-vm8vk LMAO now France even uses German rifles, feels bad
Мой дядя сейчас живёт в Германии и служит в армии на этом чуде а в 1999 служил в российской армии и воевал в Чечне на российской мста-с и говорит российская лучше
I come form Poland and I admire Deuchland's howitzer pzh2000. We have Krab ahs and this is not good as phz2000.
So was Volkswagen.
So what happens if you lose the round without the charge
Nothing.....
빠르다 ..작약은 손으로 넣는건가 위험해서...폭탄도 장비만듬세가 튼튼하고 정교하고 깔끔해 보인다
The loader manipulates every thing with the right hand. This way his hand ist not in the danger zone when he closes the breach and pushes the hot button.
why dont they have like giant mags like guns? just gravity feed?
You really think that it would work on huge howitzers like this? bro you're high on crack
I think the reload in WOT for this arty is 29 seconds
I think it's 5 but ok
@@bluestaraquamarine9214 Nah he means the artillery ability that tanks get
@@alephkasai9384 oh nvm, I thought he was saying something else
@@bluestaraquamarine9214 I see
Can anyone please explain the reason for this design? only auto load the round, not both round and gunpowder?
Less complex
At the time they hadn't designed modular second stage ammunition like today. So the first stage (HE round) could be easily loaded with a comparable simple autoloader, but the second stage (propellant) couldn't be easily loaded with an autoloader. More modern systems from German manufacturers already solved this problem and have developed and automatic artillerysystem with 30 first stage round and I believe, 60 propellant charges. The whole module (Gun plus loader) can easily be put on any chassis and only needs at least 2 people to operate.
You have the Donar Howitser for example that autoloads all, the downside of that is that you cannot change propellant charge on the spot and if something goes wrong the whole thing is out of commision. In this case if anything malfunctions you have humans that can manually take over.
Leopard 2A7V Thank you so much for the information ! 😀
Renze Sinia yes that makes a lot of sense 😀
Der Rüsseltraktor... 😀👍🏻
hahaha alter , ich sterbe vor lachen! xD
Amazing live fire
They will be send to Ukraine 🇺🇦
and judging by the telegram channels, like everything else, it will be captured by the Russians😁
So it does only partial autoloading? Thought about buying some as backyard defense, but would prefer full-auto operation.
Safety issues...
At least five different detonators, several different shells, variable amount of powder ... so that is difficult. And somebody needs to replenish the magazine all the time.
@@adamabele785 That human, who bets against loosing his hand whenever he feeds the cannon with the small charge, certainly isn't refilling the magazine though.
I also assume, that refilling in generall is done between the artillery strikes - although it would be awesome to have fully automated live fire refill using an armored tender... 😛
@@EvaLieblich It seems that the military is the only place left where such working conditions are legally accepted. Are there statistics about peacetime casualties?
Exponentially better mission kill rate than the Germans old flack 88. Men and their magnificent howitzer. The Porsche of field infantry weapons iconic for their cyclical reload rate and distant delivered punch.
It's great fun if you're behind one, but kiss your ass goodbye if you're on the receiving end.
Flak is for aircraft. It´s almost impossible to shoot down a plane with a howitzer.
@@adamabele785, Thank you for that corrected technical info. I just Recklessly assumed 88 had been utilized for Target types other than Ariel flack. So Howitzers Could be re-engineered to do same or similar. It's obvious I need to expand my comprehension of Howitzer other than cocktail shot containing Sambuca & Rum.
Question, why does artillery not use cartridges like small arms and Tank Guns? Also, can SPGs be used in a direct fire role? I know their armor is thin and not intended for frontline combat but I am wondering if they can be used that way should the need arise.
Artillery uses 'fixed' or 'semi-fixed' ammunition for 105mm and smaller. The 155 is too large to have fixed ammo. Also, having the powder separate from the warhead allows them to vary the range they are firing at. They are firing the smallest powder charge these things can use - for short range. The 105 has up to six powder bags inside the semi-fixed ammo which is adjusted when the fire mission is called down to the guns.
direct fire exercise th-cam.com/video/lBQe7Ahod34/w-d-xo.html , sorry its in german, but jeah..its about shooting a bad guy directly if he gets to close.
Weight. Those 155mm shells weigh about 100 lbs by themselves. Trying to load that and the propellent all at once would be too much.
@@DESTRUCT0NAT0R That makes sense
@@DESTRUCT0NAT0R I see.
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Anyone know what shoes they are wearing
Meindl
German engineering
What was that thing being.put after loading?
Maybe explosive thing that thrust shell out
Separated charges, also known as bags which are colored in red, green, and white.
Ukraine about to get some
How come a lot of SPGs have a bipod or Monopod that holds the barrel? I assume it is to relieve pressure or stress on the motors or whatever aims the gun whenever you not shooting.
pretty much that, even some tanks have those, either on the back (turret turned backwards, gun locked , for transportation) or instead under the turret roof to lock the gun.
Unlike a tank this is highly precise instrument, a millimeter off here makes lots of meters on the target. Think danger close setting, you do not want to be off.
We are SO WAITING for this "things" here in Ukraine!
M777 is already here and help us kill rushists, but their range is twice shorter than PzH2000 range.
Same range when using the same projectiles and charges, you don't know what you are talking about, sit down and shut up !
Your man are getting trained right now, soon the pzh2000 sees some action!
Is that an su?