How to Install a Smart Valve on Your Home

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  • @mediaondisplay3089
    @mediaondisplay3089 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I've installed at least 20 of these so far. They work pretty good, pretty cool you can monitor and shut off your main with your phone. Here's a pro tip when installing: use the spacer, turn the water on and run water through the spacer to get rid of any debris that may have gotten into the line. There's a small propeller in the device that will get stuck if there's any debris.

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing. That’s a great idea!!!!

    • @davidsolis5075
      @davidsolis5075 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How much is an estimate range to install one?

    • @greekmaster1001
      @greekmaster1001 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is there a monthly subscription for this app?

    • @greekmaster1001
      @greekmaster1001 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you have any problems connecting to Wi-Fi or setting up these valves and the optional sensors?

  • @kennethshaw8388
    @kennethshaw8388 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent video. I purchased the 3/4" version to connect to my main 3/4" copper line. My insurance company now requires this for our second/vacation home. Can't easily shut the water off for the winter since we have circulating hot water heat and cast iron radiators. I was going to have a licensed plumber do the work. BUT. . . Several plumbers I contacted in my area (30 miles South of Albany, NY) had no interest in doing the installation. One plumber quoted an astronomical figure - about 5X the purchase price. Just what I need at 70 years old, another DIY project. I already have the app, three Moen Smart Water Leak Detectors and the Smart valve on the WiFi, so a couple of carefully spaced sweat fittings will get things done. The app was a bit of a pain in the rear to initially get connected to the devices. Moen needs to iron out the rough edges in the WiFi set-up procedure for the Leak Detectors. Interestingly, the valve took only a couple of minutes while the three Leak Detectors took over an hour and multiple attempts and resets. A bonus of the Leak Detectors is that they monitor the temperature and humidity as well monitor for water. Thanks for posting the video.

    • @talalztube
      @talalztube 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      did your insurer provide any discounts after installation? they should

    • @kennethshaw8388
      @kennethshaw8388 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@talalztube Minimal savings for me. I think it was 5%. They graciously allowed me to keep my insurance.

  • @Brett-o8e
    @Brett-o8e 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love this video I had a customer who couldn’t figure out why their cesspool needed to get pumped more than it should’ve been. If he had this device he would’ve known his toilet was silently running and filling up his cesspool.

  • @felipethomas3504
    @felipethomas3504 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I installed a lot of those devices out here out here in phoenix, the only thing that sucked is the call backs from the ones installed outside which the heat would messed them up so I learned that it’s better to install them either by the water heater or water softener unless u have shade by your main.

    • @greekmaster1001
      @greekmaster1001 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why what did the heat do?

  • @habbadabbado5765
    @habbadabbado5765 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for the video! While it’s slick, My Flo has been nothing but problems. Had to replace the whole unit after 6 months. 2 months ago I had to buy the turbine assembly since it just ran out of 1 yr .warranty. Has had several connectivity issues with wi-fi since it’s in the crawl space.

  • @MCW1955
    @MCW1955 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Looks like you had an ideal installation example, but what about a shut off valve outside of the house with the pipe then going through the wall underneath to the crawl space?

    • @kennethshaw8388
      @kennethshaw8388 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MCW1955 No crawl space. The supply line goes underground to the utility shut-off valve in the driveway.

  • @shaggyfilms
    @shaggyfilms ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m in NTX and called a highly rated plumber in my area out to quote me on an install for this. Had no idea what i was talking about and just kept telling me i needed an electrician. Yeah buddy, i know it needs power, but i need YOU to help me plumb it in. Still haven’t gotten this done.

  • @twoevilone
    @twoevilone 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Im installing these for a customer at 2 different locations, and they are not home and i dont have access to there wifi or there phone to program the app. Does anyone have any info or experience with local mode? Im thinking i want to leave it in low detection mode so the tenant doesnt get there water shut off during there long showers, or while filling the washing machine and dishwasher at the same time.

  • @EvgeniiShimanskii
    @EvgeniiShimanskii ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally. Installed first of this this type about 7 years ago.
    Better if they have leak sensors connected to the valve, so it closes sooner than 5 minutes if something happens.

  • @wscb01
    @wscb01 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My new home came with this. Saved my butt!

  • @Chris_In_Texas
    @Chris_In_Texas ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Although the mess that would have to be made in most of the North Texas homes with slab foundations and short runs of piping coming out of the slabs for the main water lines before it goes right back down into the slab. 99% of the time its a random bathroom or kitchen faucet where the main water comes in the wall. You would need access to this for routine maintenance as well, so an access door would have to be added as well as lack of outlets to plug it in. Just like trying to add a water softener here as well unless the plumbing was setup from day one to support it, it would be extremely costly to do.

  • @VariableSin
    @VariableSin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: Can you actually replace your main, manual shutoff valve with one of these or is that a bad idea? Assuming it's a bad idea, should this always be installed downstream from your main shutoff valve or upstream?

    • @apaceofchange94
      @apaceofchange94 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m not a plumber but
      I really wouldn’t get rid of a manual shut off valve. Both for your own sake and if you ever have an emergency and have to call out a professional
      And two: it should be downstream from it. Allow yourself to have two fail safes in case of an emergency.

  • @dragon411320
    @dragon411320 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Don't overtighten it, just let the tape do its job" should make that into a t-shirt.... the amount of times I've seen people say "teflon tape is only a lubricant, it doesn't seal!" only to spout a moment later with "the NPT needs properly tightened because there are imperfections in the threading" don't recognize that the tape can do *both* be a lubricant AND help seal the regular tolerances and tiny manufacturing defects on a thread is mind-boggling, and can also tell they never worked with PCs either, just in that situation it would be thermal paste not teflon tape/goo

  • @victorbastidas6593
    @victorbastidas6593 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where do you install the automatic water shout off valve? Do you install before the existing manual valve or after?

  • @Random-name87
    @Random-name87 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like they have this set up so you can have multiple valves in one app. So you can use it in multiple apartment units if you have a multi-unit building. Or you can have a valve in multiple properties if you have multiple properties. And control all of it on the 1 app.

  • @menchetta5914
    @menchetta5914 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can it works on CPVC pipe?

  • @mikejones5364
    @mikejones5364 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not practical in houses in Texas, Need to install before the line branches to other fixtures, can't really do it on slab house. I called Moen and said you need to install above grade, so that means in the yard and with electricity ran, they said you need to be installed where it doesn't get below freezing or above 104 degrees.

  • @virgil3241
    @virgil3241 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Been on my list for a few years. Some insurance places give you a discount on your insurance as well, so it will literally pay for itself over time money wise. But some insurance only accept certain brands as well. For now, I manually turn my water off to my house if I am away over night, or on a vacation. Thankfully, in Canada, we have our shut off valves in the house and its easy to do. Water sensors, even if just a beep at home, at least discover things before they get bad. I also turn off/on all my water line shut offs every 6 months to make sure they work, and replace my washer lines every 5 years. I realize this isnt as good as something like this, but its better than not doing anything. So are these better than the ones that shut off the gate valve off manually?

  • @mrbigcat9
    @mrbigcat9 ปีที่แล้ว

    The flo by Moen has brass fittings? So, why the dielectric union?

  • @MrMediadirect
    @MrMediadirect ปีที่แล้ว

    Any backyard hoses you can recommend? Best material?

  • @mrbigcat9
    @mrbigcat9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What will happen if the AC power goes out does it still work?

  • @mjg1544
    @mjg1544 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    7:26 - “Pull your nuts up where they’re out of the way”😂. Sorry, it’s juvenile but it’s 3AM.
    This is a cool product. Asking my plumber about this tomorrow.

  • @mushroom89
    @mushroom89 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a techy person and want the water flow and pressure data to be available outside of the app. Is that possible with the Moen valve or any similar smart valve products you know of that let you export the data and/or not require an internet connection in order for it to work?

  • @amak1131
    @amak1131 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These devices are always cool, but I'm ever worried about security. IOT devices don't have the best track record and it being on the open internet is still a concern until companies up their security game.

    • @Racontact
      @Racontact 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      u should put it on a separate network all of these types of gadgets

  • @bobscomix
    @bobscomix ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No Teflon paste?

  • @jdmoore988
    @jdmoore988 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does it still work if the power goes out, like allowing water to flow through it

  • @Derddy
    @Derddy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This looks nice. I'd still want a nice soldered in manual ball valve before it through.

    • @kennethshaw8388
      @kennethshaw8388 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Derddy Fully agree!! Subsequent to the installation I installed a ball valve and pressure reducing valve before the Moen valve. Soldered. Btw. My pressure was 100 psi and I reduced it to 60. Also put an expansion tank on the water heater. A benefit of the Moen valve is the pressure readings at the supply line.

  • @davidwhelchel109
    @davidwhelchel109 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will this work with Pex

  • @thenexthobby
    @thenexthobby ปีที่แล้ว

    re: "or the inconvenience of manually shutting off your water supply?"
    Moen's site has a graphic that implies this gets installed aft of a traditional shutoff and pressure regulator. I very much like the idea of what this can presumably do. But are we confident this can *replace* a standard shut off valve?

    • @williammorris3303
      @williammorris3303 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It isn’t meant to replace a full open valve , it’s meant to be a stop safe for if you aren’t knowing there is a problem and to keep the water off until you can get to the valve

  • @Kiloptero
    @Kiloptero ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi.. There is a lot of complains about the quality of the FLO.. Any feedback?

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought the product was solid, I had some trouble connecting it to the Wifi and pairing it with my phone...but that was my only issue using it.

    • @Kiloptero
      @Kiloptero 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RogerWakefield Thanks.. any experience after 1 year? there is a lot of complains about the warranty and the experience after 1 year. Thanks a lot!!

  • @joej19
    @joej19 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I prefer the battery powered yolink shut off valve with 12 sensors. If the power and or internet goes out the sensors communicate directly with the battery powered shut off valve. If even a couple drops of water touch any of my 12 sensors it shuts off.

  • @swishyboi7444
    @swishyboi7444 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is this closing water automatically? Where is the water detection pad?

  • @to5msheppard
    @to5msheppard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another question I have should I ask for a plumber that’s already installed these because that was a great tutorial

  • @clc040
    @clc040 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t find an adapter/union anywhere to connect to 3/4 pex. Returning it!

  • @ZDALI14
    @ZDALI14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why’d you use 1” and reduce instead of a 3/4

  • @stateboy80892
    @stateboy80892 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are most common water main pipes 1"?!

  • @greekmaster1001
    @greekmaster1001 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there monthly payment /subscription for this?

  • @willyrico1146
    @willyrico1146 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What would be a decent price to pay for something like this. Yes I know depending on area. So I live in San Jose California

  • @teamsilva7563
    @teamsilva7563 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What happens if you have a leak on your hot side coming from the water heater?

  • @ranger178
    @ranger178 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have heard lots of people say these things are awful they shut off when you are trying to water lawn or various thing mistaking it for a leak.

    • @ORRadtech
      @ORRadtech 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've read the same type of thing. We're retired and no longer have a set shower schedule. Could be morning, afternoon or evening or a day or two between. I have no desire to be cut-off mid shower. I've also been looking at the ones that activate from physical sensors. I figure that's what I'll end up with.

  • @BayAreaBikeLife
    @BayAreaBikeLife 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I been reading reviews after 2 or 3 years they go bad kind of sketched out to get it

  • @ur.9330
    @ur.9330 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whats the average cost for installation of a Flo? Got an estimate from a plumbing company who shall remain nameless and they quoted my wife 6-7k, i thought she mistyped 6-700 but no 6-7k

  • @glitch_cloudy8606
    @glitch_cloudy8606 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All you have to do is turn off your main whenever you leave your house more than one night!! i've been doing that for yearssss

  • @DanielTorres-bi8no
    @DanielTorres-bi8no ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've removed about 20 of these in the central valley of Cali. They leak at the power connector.

  • @TheTaji11
    @TheTaji11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5 mins is a long time for a leak can it be shorter time

  • @TwilightRage2099
    @TwilightRage2099 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this device work without a internet connection? I always worry about things like this continuing to work in the case of a natural disaster. I couldn't imagine using something that would shut down and stop your access to water just because you can't connect to the net.

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It still works without an internet connection, but you have to manually open/shut the valve if there is a problem. There is a key tool included to help with that.

    • @TwilightRage2099
      @TwilightRage2099 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RogerWakefield Ahh.. Thanks for the info.

  • @drliamdaasian5153
    @drliamdaasian5153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Installed a lot of these here in Virginia 👍

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you think about them?

    • @drliamdaasian5153
      @drliamdaasian5153 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RogerWakefield not that bad just a lot of crawl spaces and CPVC. Relatively easy install

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought the install was easy too, piece of 🍰

  • @AFpaleoCon
    @AFpaleoCon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ya but HOW does it distinguish between a leak and usage? I just don't see how it's possible.

  • @workingtothebone256
    @workingtothebone256 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Installing these on every new house we are doing in a new 108 housing development.

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where are you installing them at?

    • @workingtothebone256
      @workingtothebone256 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RogerWakefield in the garage, on the water main, right before the water heater stub outs

  • @arthurmiller8336
    @arthurmiller8336 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rodger Mahony I kind of like you like me or from the 1980s keep up the good work I love your movies

  • @universalglitch
    @universalglitch ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those work great, very easy to sell to people who have experienced a 20k plus damage flood from an R/O.

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  ปีที่แล้ว

      It is! They also have leak detectors that you can place all around your house (laundry room, under sink, behind toilet, water heater) where it will sense the humidity and temperature of the room and alert you if it senses water leaking and it connects with the same Flo app! They are doing some great things

  • @to5msheppard
    @to5msheppard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My question to all your plumbers I know you don’t have to solder anymore and you use those devices that clamp down on the pipe how well do those work? I mean they must work pretty good. I always watch you guys always there’s no soldering but it’s all compression.

    • @JohnJack-wo9oy
      @JohnJack-wo9oy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm not a plumber but I use a manual pro press tool and never had an issue. Pro press is a lot safer especially if you're not a plumber and don't really know how to soldier like me

  • @df7242
    @df7242 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If only I had this when my toilet broke overnight while sleeping

  • @healthyminimalist
    @healthyminimalist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ferguson is double the price of home depot for homeowners. Dont know why.

  • @briananthony2404
    @briananthony2404 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    California is requiring insurance companies to drop you if you don't have this water detection shut off valve installed in your home.

  • @kiwali
    @kiwali ปีที่แล้ว

    This is it Mark!!!

  • @9livesReset
    @9livesReset 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for telling folks not to over tighten, aka "Gorilla Tight" as we would call it.

  • @othnielcarbajal2235
    @othnielcarbajal2235 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only if it had a battery back up

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  ปีที่แล้ว

      does your flood stop?

    • @MarbledPaladin
      @MarbledPaladin ปีที่แล้ว

      There are devices like this which do have one, it uses 4 AAA batteries and turns the water off automatically when it detects a leak...

  • @othnielcarbajal2235
    @othnielcarbajal2235 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just use a flood stop

  • @jochute
    @jochute ปีที่แล้ว

    Great videos sir! But you know installing this on most dfw homes would be difficult with no easy access to pipes coming into the house.

  • @AngelGonzalez-sm9xu
    @AngelGonzalez-sm9xu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice

  • @ronlovell5374
    @ronlovell5374 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! We've been installing these in Canada for some time now. We test em by slicing and old capped washer hose over a bucket. You should make a video of this test or something similar to a pipe failure.

  • @714seamonster6
    @714seamonster6 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super thumb’s up

  • @talalztube
    @talalztube 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this appears to be something only plumbers can do how many ppl have that rigid press machine

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You dont NEED a ridgid press machine to install it...but I would recommend a plumber assist in installing

  • @vechtruba
    @vechtruba ปีที่แล้ว

    mustache is cool

  • @Racontact
    @Racontact 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    sorry to see you are shilling for this product. I've installed 10 of these, have had 8 call backs due to pump failure. the pump impeller is prone to water mineral buildup causing motor excessive motor wear and premature failure. Moan leaves customer stranded citing they're not responsible for irregular water quality or hard water. the motor is not robust enough for hard water and long term use.

  • @RamboOnYaMom
    @RamboOnYaMom ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nope I wouldn’t want this, if I have a leak let it pour!!! I’d love a new kitchen or bathroom

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s one way of doing it…

    • @louisd95714
      @louisd95714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sure, and your house insurance bill would surly go through the roof.

    • @RamboOnYaMom
      @RamboOnYaMom ปีที่แล้ว

      @@louisd95714 not through the roof 🤣 it just happened and issuance went up 11% so not that bad

    • @louisd95714
      @louisd95714 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RamboOnYaMom Not bad at all, but I wont take that chance, because with my luck, it would increase by a lot more.

    • @RamboOnYaMom
      @RamboOnYaMom ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@louisd95714 well I’m in a lucky position, my mom was the beneficiary of my grandpas insurance policy for the house and they hadn’t had a claim for over 40 years so I’m sure that’s why

  • @the1spurs
    @the1spurs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    500 bucks?! 😂I’m home to much to get this id know if my house was leaking.

  • @oldmanjake7976
    @oldmanjake7976 ปีที่แล้ว

    Things like this make me Nervous because it is if the water breaks and soaks that Little smart device with it still works also if you have kids and And you have to run the bathtub to make a steam bath. Would it kick the water off if you don't have your phone on you? Also I trust in sweating pipes and compression fittings homeowners need To know they're layout

    • @habbadabbado5765
      @habbadabbado5765 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it detects the running has been continuously for 20 minutes, it will send you alerts via text, phone calls and emails. If you don’t let Flo know it’s ok within 5 minutes, it will shut the valve. Otherwise, you can open/close the valve with a hex wrench manually if you have no phone or internet.

  • @louisd95714
    @louisd95714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think $500.00 is a relatively small amount to invest for peace of mind.

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely!

    • @thenexthobby
      @thenexthobby ปีที่แล้ว

      Piece of mind, yes, but Sweet Jeebus I was gonna guess $250 max. Can't imagine Moen has all that much cost into this device.

  • @tslim250
    @tslim250 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FIRST!

  • @yangashi
    @yangashi ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the app cloud only? Will it continue to work if the company goes under?

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That I’m not sure about. That would be a question for Moen.

    • @yangashi
      @yangashi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RogerWakefield Thanks for the reply.

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yangashi but remember we are talking about #Moen… They have been around forever…

  • @cassidywall1140
    @cassidywall1140 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every plumber loves a little box, especially one that has a valve

  • @enrique12338
    @enrique12338 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have installed 4 of this flo by moen

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  ปีที่แล้ว

      What are your thoughts about them?

    • @enrique12338
      @enrique12338 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RogerWakefield Home owners best friend, a friend that will save your home for a plumbing disaster helps with insurance as we'll

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  ปีที่แล้ว

      My thoughts too! I like em

  • @FernandoMoreno-ku3ib
    @FernandoMoreno-ku3ib ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Google work Míster.

  • @to5msheppard
    @to5msheppard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My question to all your plumbers I know you don’t have to solder anymore and you use those devices that clamp down on the pipe how well do those work? I mean they must work pretty good. I always watch you guys always there’s no soldering but it’s all compression.

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ProPress is becoming the new solder...its still relatively new tool and technique and so far not many problems...but just like everything give it time and there could be problems later on.