The Papacy and Its Recent Developments with Bishop Chandler Holder Jones

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.พ. 2025
  • On the first episode of the fifth season of the Sacramentalists Podcast, Frs. Creighton and Wesley discuss recent developments in the Roman Catholic understanding of the papacy in light of the new study document, “The Bishop of Rome: Primacy and Synodality in Ecumenical Dialogue and Responses to the Encyclical Ut Unum Sint".
    Bp. Chandler Jones is the Presiding Bishop of the Anglican Province of America and blogs at ⁠⁠⁠Philorthodox⁠⁠⁠.
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  • @spaceman001e7
    @spaceman001e7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I listen to the podcast version earlier today, great talk. As a Roman Catholic I like a lot of the ideas in this video but I think something like this could lead to further schisms if not taken extremely carefully. Ideally all Roman Catholic, Conservative Old Catholic, Anglican (Opposed to WO), and Eastern Orthodox bishops would hold a ecumenical council like a Florence 2.0 to figure out what reunion could look like without forcing either groups to delegitimatize themselves by rejecting dogmas they hold. Historical Theology is badly needed and open minds to figure out a method.

    • @Booger414
      @Booger414 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is an attractive idea, but the problem is the sliding scale of orthodoxy that we find in the alphabet soup of Anglicans, and I suspect within some Rome adjacent churches also. The ACNA will tell you they are orthodox but refuse to decide either way about WO. Would the FSSP, SSPX & RCC ever sit down together and talk? Some Old Catholic groups are fairly staunch in their beliefs, but others have liberalized overtime. Deciding who to invite gets very complicated.

    • @PadiZH
      @PadiZH 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The problem I see there is that the Roman Catholic Church (especially under this Pope) is more and more moving into strange ways. Look at this awful liturgy as well as their giving up their own tradition at a very cheap price. Who really wants to be in communion with them?

    • @spaceman001e7
      @spaceman001e7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So you going to write off half of Christianity because of the actions of one man? By that logic we must wrote off every group since everyone has had bad bishops in the past, Anglicans, Roman Catholics, Eastern Ortodox, even the Church in the first millennium

    • @PadiZH
      @PadiZH 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@spaceman001e7 it's not only because of this man. However, if you see how mass is celebrated I really have my doubts. And all the new heresies which are thought nowadays makes me think..,

  • @corybyrum8103
    @corybyrum8103 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I already know this episode is going to be 🔥

  • @Booger414
    @Booger414 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great episode, I listened to most of it. I have to catch the rest in repeats. The perils of listening at work.

  • @norala-gx9ld
    @norala-gx9ld 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great episode. Thank you

  • @charliek2557
    @charliek2557 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Praise God 🙌🏻

  • @AngloLee
    @AngloLee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Maybe I'm talking out of my ear, but i feel like the G3 are unique in their ability to serve as a true bridge for all Apostolic churches. We're catholic and we're staunchly orthodox. Maybe it's because we're anglican catholic but our churches are becoming it's own ecclesial body.

  • @brianbrownell689
    @brianbrownell689 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool

  • @barbaracope5111
    @barbaracope5111 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can u post link to documents

    • @spaceman001e7
      @spaceman001e7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      www.christianunity.va/content/dam/unitacristiani/Collezione_Ut_unum_sint/The_Bishop_of_Rome/The%20Bishop%20of%20Rome.pdf

  • @marcellooliveira6981
    @marcellooliveira6981 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this Live??

    • @thesacramentalists
      @thesacramentalists  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It was not live. We recorded it a few months ago!

  • @carlworrall
    @carlworrall 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    On July 1, more than 30 female clergy in the ACNA published an open letter expressing support for the survivors and pledging to help the denomination create better processes for responding to abuse allegations with “urgency, compassion, accountability, and transparency.” When you kick people out of the church over a joke but yet you hide darker secrets is shameful and the world have seen it. Shame on you

    • @thesacramentalists
      @thesacramentalists  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No one in this video is involved with the ACNA.